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Ravens Best Offensive Formation In 2010

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Watching the ravens offense last year we were one dimensional.. And really we were sticking to the basics. This year we finally went out an put together a promising offense that can spread the field in many ways. Going into our 2010 season I am going to say that our double tight end set will be our best formation. It gives Joe a chance to have a faster release if the defense wants to pressure. We have one of the top 5 ground games which will have the safety moving up trying to stop the run leaving the TE. Open. Or boldin on a quick slant or screen that is one of his strong points, and D-mase or Donte on a post or vertical route.. That's my opinion for what I think will be the best offensive formation for 2010-2011 season... fill free to voice your opinion as fans what do yall think will be the best formation 4 the new upcoming season..
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I think there will be a lot of changes to our offense this year. Cam is going to let Flacco take control a little more since this is his third year. I think that will be huge for Flacco's confidence and everyone's confidence in Flacco. And I think part of the reason why we couldn't do so many things is because of lack of talent at wide receiver too. Now the depth we have at wide receiver offers endless possibilities. And it also sounds like we have faith in the two tight ends we drafted. They don't have to be great. Just enough of a threat to spread the field.

Either way, our offense runs through Flacco. No matter how many trick plays or anything like that we run. It just all depends on Flacco. And he doesn't have to be a loud guy to be a leader. Steve McNair apparently would take naps before games and never got that excited but he was a great leader because he lead by example. Flacco can do the same.
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Oh yeah, spread teams out.



If we do that, teams will have to focus on either the pass or the run. If they stay in their base D, then they'll get burned deep in the slots, or backed off with the outside recievers. If they choose to play some dime/nickel forms, then Rice will tear them apart, leaving them in the dust. He played great with 8 men in the box, so what makes teams think he'll be lackluster with only 4 or 5 in the box??


As for the two TE sets, that'd be perfect for Play Actions, and also strong running. Thats another set that teams cannot go all out against either way.

Sooooooo many options..... is it gameday yet???
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I can definitely see Two-TE sets being the most effective...maybe four Receiver sets with Dickson and Pitta in the spread, too (which is similar). Personally, I'm dying to see our play-action. That could be our most productive play, which could be executed out of multiple sets (Singleback, I-Form, Two-TE, etc.).
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And while it most definitely wont be a base formation, I'll bet anything that stallworth will run more than 1 or 2 reverses!
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The only thing I would disagree with in regards to the original post is the remark about how last year's offense was one-dimensional; although there was much emphasis on Ray Rice and the rushing attack, the passing attack brought enough balance to make opposing defenses actually respect Joe Flacco's arm in coverage.

That said...lots and lots of promise for this year's offense. Even with all these high expectations, the only deterrent to the unit having success is injuries.
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i wanna see three TE in the power I with McClain and rice. motion dickson and rice to WR 1 and 2 position pitta and heap to the slots and have single back McClain defenses wouldnt know what to do because there are just too many possibilities
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I would like to see a shotgun, 4-WR tight, with Boldin, Stallworth and Mason. The fourth receiver would alternate between Heap, Dickson and Reed with Boldin sometimes being switched into the backfield to alternate with Rice, McGahee and McClain. Basically, after getting good yardage with the size match-ups, particularly with two tight ends bunched near the line and able to move around and clear things out, they can audible out to where two of the receivers are split out wide.

What would be incredible is if the goal-line package involved McClain or Ngata blocking for Cody with an extra O-lineman and Dickson and Boldin on the outside for play-action capability. Whether they run or pass, it would be unreal. I think at other places on the field, there are lots of packages that might be better suited for 3rd or 4th and short that would allow for the possibility of a big gain but at the 5 yard line or nearer, the Ravens could outsize every defense with that goal-line package.
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Ngata, Cody, LeRon, and Gaither all line up as WR's. Flacco goes in motion with Ray Lewis under center. Boldin, Mason, and Clayton all protect Ray's blind side while leaving the right side exposed. Willis McGahee lines up as a TE and stiff-arms a random player. Demetrius Williams just does an endzone dance.

That or 2TE sets.
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He already doesn't throw to the one TE that we had; giving him two is just like putting up a bigger front line, really - they'll never get the ball.

Of course this is just exaggerated speculation, though!
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3TE tight set, but the 3 TEs are Chester, Cody, and Gregg. FB is Ngata. RB is McClain. QB is Oniel Cousins. Really think we can't just make a dogpile and move it 20 yards forward without much trouble?
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I like the multiple TE sets running out of a bunched group with 1 wideout on the opposite side. The Ravens have rarely used a bunched set and I see it as the most difficult to defend. As a defender, you never know which way anyone is going until it happens.
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Don't be surprised to see Pitta lined up in the slot, with Heap and Dickson on the line. Boldin and Mason out wide. Having three guys 6-4 and over will be a tremendous advantage for Joe. I can't wait to see what Cam has up his sleeve this year!
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Just imagine what Rice will be able to do this year on those short dump offs with increased space! The Ravens will still be a run first team. with the amount of talent and depth we have in the backfield, and hopefully now with a new burner in Stallworth and Pitta/Dickson our play action game could be downright deadly!
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[quote name='DrMoonTooth' date='02 July 2010 - 12:40 PM' timestamp='1278088814' post='428783']
I can definitely see Two-TE sets being the most effective...maybe four Receiver sets with Dickson and Pitta in the spread, too (which is similar). Personally, I'm dying to see our play-action. That could be our most productive play, which could be executed out of multiple sets (Singleback, I-Form, Two-TE, etc.).
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I have to agree with the two TE set. Pitta and Dickson both have the size and speed of a TE/WR hybrid and one of them, paired up with Heap, along with Boldin and the 3rd TE lined up at WR, with Rice in the backfield gives Joe so many options, additional blockers, and would be especially effective in the red zone with so much size. Three of his receivers would be at least 6'4.

So something like:

Heap, Boldin, Pitta, Dickson

Oher, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda, Gaither

Rice, Flacco

WOW that is one hell of an offensive formation in the redzone.
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[quote name='itscbm5042' date='05 July 2010 - 12:38 PM' timestamp='1278347899' post='429524']
I have to agree with the two TE set. Pitta and Dickson both have the size and speed of a TE/WR hybrid and one of them, paired up with Heap, along with Boldin and the 3rd TE lined up at WR, with Rice in the backfield gives Joe so many options, additional blockers, and would be especially effective in the red zone with so much size. Three of his receivers would be at least 6'4.

So something like:

Heap, Boldin, Pitta, Dickson

Oher, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda, Gaither

Rice, Flacco

WOW that is one hell of an offensive formation in the redzone.
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We do have more weapons this year and that means we'll have more flexibility to go with some spread offenses and 2 tight end sets but which formation will be most productive will depend on who we are playing and how we want to attack that particular defense.

With all the excitement over the passing game the running game has gotten forgotten a little bit, I think. When defenses have to play us honest and not stack the box and dare us to pass, Ray Rice and company should have more room to run. Woo hoo!
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3 WR, 2 TE is going to be our most effective formation... I'd also like to see us utilize the 4-WR set more this year, and run draws to "lil Ray" ;)
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Looking at the roster it's really hard to decide what single fromation would be the best, but as far as a package I would say the I package. In there there is the regular I, with our top 2 receivers, possibly Mason and Boldin, our #1 tightend, this year I think it'll be Heap, our FB, McClain of course, and either Rice or McGahee in the back. Also out of the I package you can go with 3 wideouts, a fullback, and halfback. Then there is always the 2 tightend set, either one on each side or both on the same, with the #1 reveiver out wide. Also you can have both receivers on the same side in the I. And as a bonus you can adable from those formations into alot of others, such as a 4 receiver set in the singleback, a shotgun formation, or the goaline. But as a single best formation for the Ravens I would say it would be the standard I formation: at receivers #1 Mason #2 Boldin, Heap at tightend, and in the bakcfield Flacco, McClain, and Rice.
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[quote name='Mahatma_Sloth' date='02 July 2010 - 08:31 PM' timestamp='1278117097' post='428911']
i wanna see three TE in the power I with McClain and rice. motion dickson and rice to WR 1 and 2 position pitta and heap to the slots and have single back McClain defenses wouldnt know what to do because there are just too many possibilities
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I like the Mcclain in the single back formation excellent chocie..
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