Willis McGahee

[Alexir]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='27 June 2010 - 04:41 PM' timestamp='1277671297' post='427087']
That was the most beautiful juke i have ever seen.

And OP, who could replace Willis. He is vital to our scheme and has more value to us than anyone else.If we do, for some misguided reason, do trade him, we would need another player to at least semi fill his role.

In my eyes, that would be Brian Westbrook, but we aren't going to trade Willis and if we do I would be dissappointed.
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Really Westbrook? He is basically Ray Rice, an outside runner with nice hands out the backfield.

Willis is staying and as vital as Bulger is to Flacco, Willis is even more vital to Ray Rice.

[lowrider]

First of all Willis lacks trade value. Second of all, we wouldn't be able to get compensation for hiim. Willis a good back. Probably could start on some teams, but he is a good compliment back. He runs between the tackles real well and has a great balance between speed and strength. I trust Willis more on short gains than Rice. In the NFL today you need to great backs. Especially how much beatings they take throughout their career. Willis a great asset to our team and I hope he gets the ball more than he did last year. It would keep Rice healthy all year, and it would make Willis happy. Which would make for a happy team in the playoffs.

[MattRavensScott83]

M c G A H E E !!!!!!!

We'll keep him, thanks!

[ed.s52]

[quote name='Alexir' date='28 June 2010 - 06:55 AM' timestamp='1277736924' post='427309']
Really Westbrook? He is basically Ray Rice, an outside runner with nice hands out the backfield.

Willis is staying and as vital as Bulger is to Flacco, Willis is even more vital to Ray Rice.
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I would prefer McGahee, I just think if we lost him Westbrook would be a good #2. McClain can be used in Goaline situations but Brians ellusiveness is what makes him one of my favorite runningbacks. He won't run through people but right around them.

And now that I think about it... Edgarren James would also be a good Willis replacement. Both have a great stiff arm, both were a Cane, both were former starters. If Willis leaves I'll take James to fill his role.

[berad]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='28 June 2010 - 03:32 PM' timestamp='1277753523' post='427413']
I would prefer McGahee, I just think if we lost him Westbrook would be a good #2. McClain can be used in Goaline situations but Brians ellusiveness is what makes him one of my favorite runningbacks. He won't run through people but right around them.

[b]And now that I think about it... Edgarren James would also be a good Willis replacement. Both have a great stiff arm, both were a Cane, both were former starters. If Willis leaves I'll take James to fill his role.[/b]
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The same Edgerrin James who was cut by the Seahawks mid-season and hasn't averaged over 4 yards per carry since '05? There are better backs out there..

[ed.s52]

[quote name='berad' date='28 June 2010 - 11:49 AM' timestamp='1277754592' post='427421']
The same Edgerrin James who was cut by the Seahawks mid-season and hasn't averaged over 4 yards per carry since '05? There are better backs out there..
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The Seahawks Offense is horrible, including there line, and as a number 2 back for us I think he could suceed. Worst case scenario he doesn't do too well and we cut him.

"I wasn't able to put in the work last year to play at a high level due to a long offseason with personal things. I'm going to put in the work this year, and if a good situation comes along, I will play." He said that in an email to the News Press, not saying it is 100 percent valid but it is worth noting.

I really can't think of any FA RB's better than those two right now.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='28 June 2010 - 03:57 PM' timestamp='1277755065' post='427427']
The Seahawks Offense is horrible, including there line, and as a number 2 back for us I think he could suceed. Worst case scenario he doesn't do too well and we cut him.

"I wasn't able to put in the work last year to play at a high level due to a long offseason with personal things. I'm going to put in the work this year, and if a good situation comes along, I will play." He said that in an email to the News Press, not saying it is 100 percent valid but it is worth noting.

I really can't think of any FA RB's better than those two right now.
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I'd honestly take a random UDFA RB like Darius Marshall over those two. Both James and Westbrook are old, worn down and slow and those phrases aren't used to describe RBs worth investing in.

[ed.s52]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='28 June 2010 - 12:24 PM' timestamp='1277756663' post='427439']
I'd honestly take a random UDFA RB like Darius Marshall over those two. Both James and Westbrook are old, worn down and slow and those phrases aren't used to describe RBs worth investing in.
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How would they be investments? They would be low risk signings with maybe a one year 2 million dollar contract.

Darius marshall wouldn't be bad, but are you sure he could be a consistent #2 right away?

If we got one of the higher UDFA RB's like Blount or possibly Javarris James, I wouldnt be oppossed. But I'm not sure they could come in and be solid right away.

If we were to sign a UDFA, we would probably sit them behind Parmele anyway unless the proved themselves in camp/practice.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='28 June 2010 - 04:24 PM' timestamp='1277756663' post='427439']
I'd honestly take a random UDFA RB like Darius Marshall over those two. Both James and Westbrook are old, worn down and slow and those phrases aren't used to describe RBs worth investing in.
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Or even stick with Parmele and see what he can do. James has nothing left in the tank. And Westbrook gets hurt and isn't that good of a runner.

[ed.s52]

[quote name='lowrider' date='28 June 2010 - 12:36 PM' timestamp='1277757401' post='427446']
Or even stick with Parmele and see what he can do. James has nothing left in the tank. And Westbrook gets hurt and isn't that good of a runner.
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As a number 2 I doubt Westbrook would be hurt as much, and if James really could not perform as a number 2 than we would just release him, a completely low risk signing.

[lowrider]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='28 June 2010 - 04:38 PM' timestamp='1277757511' post='427447']
As a number 2 I doubt Westbrook would be hurt as much, and if James really could not perform as a number 2 than we would just release him, a completely low risk signing.
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I can see some logic with Westbrook because at least if he stays healthy, I think he can still be an explosive player. With James I just don't even think it's worth giving him any carries or giving him a roster spot. I honestly feel it would be a waste of carries and a roster spot.

[ed.s52]

[quote name='lowrider' date='28 June 2010 - 12:49 PM' timestamp='1277758147' post='427451']
I can see some logic with Westbrook because at least if he stays healthy, I think he can still be an explosive player. With James I just don't even think it's worth giving him any carries or giving him a roster spot. I honestly feel it would be a waste of carries and a roster spot.
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Well we would obviously work him out first and see if he really was as bad as you are sugesting. If he can't produce in practice than we would simply not sign him.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='28 June 2010 - 04:36 PM' timestamp='1277757372' post='427445']
How would they be investments? They would be low risk signings with maybe a one year 2 million dollar contract.

Darius marshall wouldn't be bad, but are you sure he could be a consistent #2 right away?

If we got one of the higher UDFA RB's like Blount or possibly Javarris James, I wouldnt be oppossed. But I'm not sure they could come in and be solid right away.

If we were to sign a UDFA, we would probably sit them behind Parmele anyway unless the proved themselves in camp/practice.
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Paying a guy 1 or 2 million and making him your back-up RB is an investment.

I just threw Marshall's name out to make a point. I'm not advocating he be signed. However, I definitely feel he could step in and be a #2 RB seeing as RBs make the NFL transition faster than any other position.

[berad]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='28 June 2010 - 03:57 PM' timestamp='1277755065' post='427427']
The Seahawks Offense is horrible, including there line, and as a number 2 back for us I think he could suceed. Worst case scenario he doesn't do too well and we cut him.

"I wasn't able to put in the work last year to play at a high level due to a long offseason with personal things. I'm going to put in the work this year, and if a good situation comes along, I will play." He said that in an email to the News Press, not saying it is 100 percent valid but it is worth noting.

I really can't think of any FA RB's better than those two right now.
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Okay, so remove his time with the Seahawks, entirely. He was still unimpressive when he played for the Cardinals. I wouldn't want to get rid of McGahee but, if we had to, I would go for a young player because, honestly, none of the available RBs are worth anything.

[ed.s52]

[quote name='berad' date='28 June 2010 - 02:11 PM' timestamp='1277763068' post='427496']
Okay, so remove his time with the Seahawks, entirely. He was still unimpressive when he played for the Cardinals. I wouldn't want to get rid of McGahee but, if we had to, I would go for a young player because, honestly, none of the available RBs are worth anything.
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Playing as a starter is different than coming off the bench and also during his 3 years he eclipsed 1,000 yards twice, despite the fact the third season wasnt good. And I am saying he is worth a look to work out at least, and if he isn't good enough than just don't sign him.

And I say a 1 or 2 million contract is low risk considering we spent 4 mill plus incentives on a backup QB and Stallworth, a supposed low risk signing, got that amount also.

Another name I'm throwing out there who is probably better than James, what about LenDale White?

[berad]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='28 June 2010 - 10:57 PM' timestamp='1277780275' post='427579']
Playing as a starter is different than coming off the bench and also during his 3 years he eclipsed 1,000 yards twice, despite the fact the third season wasnt good. And I am saying he is worth a look to work out at least, and if he isn't good enough than just don't sign him.

And I say a 1 or 2 million contract is low risk considering we spent 4 mill plus incentives on a backup QB and Stallworth, a supposed low risk signing, got that amount also.

Another name I'm throwing out there who is probably better than James, what about LenDale White?
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Whoa, Lendale is one big bag of crazy/fat. I'd much rather have James, in that case.

Like you, I hope we keep Willis and don't have to get either of them. Can we agree on that?

[ed.s52]

Yes, I completely agree... I was just thinking of possible options to fill the void if he was traded.

[justifythegame]

[quote name='eandb17' date='26 June 2010 - 05:51 PM' timestamp='1277589086' post='426839']
When I think about it I just can't wrap my mind around why we should keep McGahee. We have a top 5 RB in Rice and a very explosive and tough FB in McClain. Recently we have only been using him for short yardage situations. Why should we use him instead of McClain who is arguablly better? My opinion is that we should just trade McGahee for a veteran CB. Any thoughts?
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If McGahee didn't score those double digit TDs, the Ravens wouldn't even be in the playoffs last year.

[RavenWarrior11]

I would be sorely disappointed if the Ravens were to trade McGahee. Then we wouldn't have the pleasure of watching beastly stiff-arms like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWbfIbUqcrw

Haven't figured out the embed tag yet, sorry

[J-man]

[quote name='eandb17' date='26 June 2010 - 05:51 PM' timestamp='1277589086' post='426839']
When I think about it I just can't wrap my mind around why we should keep McGahee. We have a top 5 RB in Rice and a very explosive and tough FB in McClain. Recently we have only been using him for short yardage situations. Why should we use him instead of McClain who is arguablly better? My opinion is that we should just trade McGahee for a veteran CB. Any thoughts?
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First of all, where were you last year when there were 1000 thread like this, and secondly, no one thinks its a problem until people like you have to state that it is