The Pro Wrestling Thread

[Nightman]

The ratings must be good for Las Vegas based Paragon Pro Wrestling, in fact they moved from 6 to 8am on Pop.  I like New Japan on AXS with the English announcing team, even though the matches are a few months old, the next 5 weeks will feature matches from Wrestlekingdom in the Tokyo Dome.  There seems to be an exchange of talent between Ring of Honor and them.   

 

Bruce Tharp President of the NWA as well as heel Manager in Japan, tried to negotiate  a deal with Spike, who might get back into wrestling, however from what I saw on You Tube, his organization mostly looks like a bunch of matches in high school gyms and needs to improve the TV quality if they want a deal.

[JO_75]

I will continue saying this for as long as the WWE Network is around but it is worth the $9.99 just for NXT. Bayley vs Sasha once again stole the show just like they did at the last Takeover. Unbelievable Iron Woman Match, I just don't know how if your a Diva in NXT that you want to be called up to the main roster, just stay in NXT where Triple H will book you properly. I mean it's almost like going from NXT to Raw/SD is a demotion not a promotion.

[DomMcRaven]

I will continue saying this for as long as the WWE Network is around but it is worth the $9.99 just for NXT. Bayley vs Sasha once again stole the show just like they did at the last Takeover. Unbelievable Iron Woman Match, I just don't know how if your a Diva in NXT that you want to be called up to the main roster, just stay in NXT where Triple H will book you properly. I mean it's almost like going from NXT to Raw/SD is a demotion not a promotion.

I know he isn't a diva, but just ask Neville.

[Militant X 1]

I've tried but I just can't get with this Seth Rawlings cat whatsoever! 

 

I'm from the "old school" when it comes to wrestling and loved (and still do) characters like; Booker T, The Rock, Bret "The Hitman" Hart, Stone Cold Steve Austin, HBK, Sting, Rick Flair, Triple H, Mick Foley (Mankind), Ultimate Warrior among many others.  Now those cats were the epitome of being a WWE Champion. 

 

Seth Rawlings is a bum in comparison!  A straight up bum!  Scrub at best!

 

Looking across the WWE, the ONLY person I see truly worthy of being that guy in my eyes is Brock Lesnar!  Total package!

Edited November 5, 2015 by Militant X 1

[JO_75]

I've tried but I just can't get with this Seth Rawlings cat whatsoever! 

 

I'm from the "old school" when it comes to wrestling and loved (and still do) characters like; Booker T, The Rock, Bret "The Hitman" Hart, Stone Cold Steve Austin, HBK, Sting, Rick Flair, Triple H, Mick Foley (Mankind), Ultimate Warrior among many others.  Now those cats were the epitome of being a WWE Champion. 

 

Seth Rawlings is a bum in comparison!  A straight up bum!  Scrub at best!

 

Looking across the WWE, the ONLY person I see truly worthy of being that guy in my eyes is Brock Lesnar!  Total package!

 

How do you feel about Roman Reigns? I have a feeling Reigns is going to win the title at Survivor Series and maybe a Sheamus cash in or something will happen lol. I still have a feeling it's going to be a Shield Triple Threat at Mania, like Roman is the Champion, Dean and Seth pull a Bret Hart/Lex Luger both feet land at the same time at the end of the Rumble Match and both are declared the winner making it a Shield Triple Threat with Roman as Champion heading into Mania.

 

Speaking of Mania, I'm trying to get tickets now while its the presale but it's hard lol. Might have to wait for Friday.

[Militant X 1]

How do you feel about Roman Reigns? I have a feeling Reigns is going to win the title at Survivor Series and maybe a Sheamus cash in or something will happen lol. I still have a feeling it's going to be a Shield Triple Threat at Mania, like Roman is the Champion, Dean and Seth pull a Bret Hart/Lex Luger both feet land at the same time at the end of the Rumble Match and both are declared the winner making it a Shield Triple Threat with Roman as Champion heading into Mania.

 

Speaking of Mania, I'm trying to get tickets now while its the presale but it's hard lol. Might have to wait for Friday.

 

Good question JO. lol

 

I don't know man!  I'm kind of indifferent right now however, I can see where they are trying to go with him.  That Superman punch move is weak to me though.  As far as Dean?  I initially thought that they would crown him with the WWE Championship at one point.  Sheamus?  Blaw!  I'd like to see Dolph Ziggler carry that title at least once to see how he'd do with it.  I'd love to see the Uso's regain the tag team titles again as well.

[George70]

Considering the injury which has put Seth Rollins out of action for a while, who is your favorite to win the WWE Championship now?  After all, we have a tournament going to determine a champion.

[DomMcRaven]

Considering the injury which has put Seth Rollins out of action for a while, who is your favorite to win the WWE Championship now?  After all, we have a tournament going to determine a champion.

Roman Reigns

[Militant X 1]

Considering the injury which has put Seth Rollins out of action for a while, who is your favorite to win the WWE Championship now?  After all, we have a tournament going to determine a champion.

 

Roman Reigns

 

I thought Roman Reigns would be the WWE Champion and after he did win it and I saw Triple H step out into the ring I knew something was up for him not to retain it!  I was right!  Smh!

[DomMcRaven]

I thought Roman Reigns would be the WWE Champion and after he did win it and I saw Triple H step out into the ring I knew something was up for him not to retain it!  I was right!  Smh!

I hope this Sheamus "reign" (pun sorta intended) is a short one. Not digging him as champ.

[Militant X 1]

I hope this Sheamus "reign" (pun sorta intended) is a short one. Not digging him as champ.

 

Me either Dom.  He's weak, not interesting and just flat out boring man!  He has no charisma whatsoever!  Ughhhh!  Smh!

[DomMcRaven]

Me either Dom.  He's weak, not interesting and just flat out boring man!  He has no charisma whatsoever!  Ughhhh!  Smh!

Absolutely. Never cared for him........at all. 

[JO_75]

I thought Roman Reigns would be the WWE Champion and after he did win it and I saw Triple H step out into the ring I knew something was up for him not to retain it!  I was right!  Smh!

 

Here's the funny thing, I was reading that they are trying to recreate the Daniel Bryan storyline with Roman. Except well unlike Bryan, WWE has plans to put the title on Roman. This is how it started for Bryan, Summerslam 2013, beats John Cena. He celebrates, Orton comes out, Triple H pedigrees Bryan and Orton cashes in to become Champion. They kept screwing him out of the title, but never had plans for Bryan to finally overcome all the screwjobs from The Authority. They really were going to stick with Orton vs Batista at Mania 30 and put Bryan in a match against Sheamus. 

 

Then Punk walked out, and the fan reaction was so loud for Bryan that WWE had no choice but to put the title on him at Mania giving the fans what they wanted all along. Now they are trying to recreate something that was done organically because Vince feels the fans would feel sympathetic for Reigns coming so close and never becoming champion that the fans would stop booing Roman.

[Militant X 1]

Here's the funny thing, I was reading that they are trying to recreate the Daniel Bryan storyline with Roman. Except well unlike Bryan, WWE has plans to put the title on Roman. This is how it started for Bryan, Summerslam 2013, beats John Cena. He celebrates, Orton comes out, Triple H pedigrees Bryan and Orton cashes in to become Champion. They kept screwing him out of the title, but never had plans for Bryan to finally overcome all the screwjobs from The Authority. They really were going to stick with Orton vs Batista at Mania 30 and put Bryan in a match against Sheamus. 

 

Then Punk walked out, and the fan reaction was so loud for Bryan that WWE had no choice but to put the title on him at Mania giving the fans what they wanted all along. Now they are trying to recreate something that was done organically because Vince feels the fans would feel sympathetic for Reigns coming so close and never becoming champion that the fans would stop booing Roman.

 

First....what are you reading to get this information?

 

Second...they want to recreate the Daniel Bryan storyline?  Smh!

 

Third....all of this is to stop fans from booing Reigns?  lol

[JO_75]

I too was hoping for Sheamus to have a short title reign(pun intended) and we got it. WWE wanted Roman to be over all year and it took them an entire year for Roman to get over. Guess as they say, if you want to do something, do it yourself. Vince took that to heart and helped Roman get over and and the die hard Philly fans, cheered and popped for Roman winning the title.

 

This is the same crowd that back in January booed the hell out of him when he won the Royal Rumble in Philly. The fans didn't want him anywhere near the title, or the main event of Wrestlemania. Now they cheered him becoming the World Champion. 

[DomMcRaven]

I too was hoping for Sheamus to have a short title reign(pun intended) and we got it. WWE wanted Roman to be over all year and it took them an entire year for Roman to get over. Guess as they say, if you want to do something, do it yourself. Vince took that to heart and helped Roman get over and and the die hard Philly fans, cheered and popped for Roman winning the title.

 

This is the same crowd that back in January booed the hell out of him when he won the Royal Rumble in Philly. The fans didn't want him anywhere near the title, or the main event of Wrestlemania. Now they cheered him becoming the World Champion. 

WWE fans make me laugh. These are the same fans who will boo the heck out of John Cena during his entrance and chant "JOHN CENA SUCKS!" That always gets me though, however, when Cena wins, these fans end up cheering him. Give me a break. 

[JO_75]

WWE fans make me laugh. These are the same fans who will boo the heck out of John Cena during his entrance and chant "JOHN CENA SUCKS!" That always gets me though, however, when Cena wins, these fans end up cheering him. Give me a break.

I'm not sure if you saw TLC but I think it was what happened when he went berserk and was destroying everyone in sight. I think the fans were actually happy to see that and that Roman wasn't acting like Cena 2.0 that WWE wants him to be. The fans in Boston at TLC chanted "Thank You Roman" when he did what he did. Then Philly followed with "Thank You Roman" chants last night.

[DomMcRaven]

I'm not sure if you saw TLC but I think it was what happened when he went berserk and was destroying everyone in sight. I think the fans were actually happy to see that and that Roman wasn't acting like Cena 2.0 that WWE wants him to be. The fans in Boston at TLC chanted "Thank You Roman" when he did what he did. Then Philly followed with "Thank You Roman" chants last night.

Unfortunately, finals week prevented me from watching both TLC and Monday Night Raw, but little did I knew Roman actually won the title last night. I gotta go back and watch that match. 

[theFRANCHISE]

Unfortunately, finals week prevented me from watching both TLC and Monday Night Raw, but little did I knew Roman actually won the title last night. I gotta go back and watch that match. 

 

The booking was really well-done, especially on RAW. I attribute that to:

 

1) Simpler, more efficient booking; not everything needs to be a long, drawn-out scenario full of swerves.

2) Constant moving parts; think of the Attitude Era when everyone had a primary and secondary storyline to stay relevant.

3) Very little filler; everything and everyone had a purpose, and the promo segments didn't drag.

[Steve0x]

I cant wait for Roman vs Sheamus match tonight. Something is going to backfire against Vince. Ether cops will come and say hold on i got a warrant here that you failed to show up in court. Then they take him away and Roman wins. OR Vince will get knocked out and another ref comes in and Roman wins. 

[DomMcRaven]

I cant wait for Roman vs Sheamus match tonight. Something is going to backfire against Vince. Ether cops will come and say hold on i got a warrant here that you failed to show up in court. Then they take him away and Roman wins. OR Vince will get knocked out and another ref comes in and Roman wins. 

I have a feeling Sheamus will take the title back. 

[Steve0x]

HaHaHaHa!!!! I knew it!!! I knew Mr Manhon was gonna get K-Oed!! 

[DomMcRaven]

HaHaHaHa!!!! I knew it!!! I knew Mr Manhon was gonna get K-Oed!! 

That ending though...

[JO_75]

So now the face who runs the place, John Cena is injured and out with a shoulder injury for 4-6 months! This means for the first time since Wrestlemania 19, that John Cena will not be on a Wrestlemania card. Wrestlemania 20 was his first Mania and appeared through Mania 31 consecutively. In case anyone is wondering, go back on the Network and watch Mania 31, and take note of who the champions were after Mania...

 

World Champion: Seth Rollins, Injured.

US Champion: John Cena, Injured.

IC Champion: Daniel Bryan, Injured.

Divas Champion: Nikki Bella, Injured.

Tag Team Champs: Tyson Kidd & Cesaro, Injured.

 

Then you add in Randy Orton who was dealing with a shoulder issue but also has a neck issue so it could be the end of his career like it was for Edge. Sin Cara is out with a shoulder injury of his own and Sting suffered a neck injury in his match against Rollins. WWE is going to have to elevate a lot of mid card guys, finally clear Daniel Bryan to return, cause AJ Styles and the Bullet Club debuting isn't going to save Mania, neither is Rock returning for Mania or Jericho or Lesnar or Taker at this point.

[Steve0x]

Thats why Vince created NXT. NXT is minor league of WWE. You go to WWE when a superstar is Injured. Why you think Tyler Breeze is on RAW and Smackdown? He's not the best wrestler. He will go right back down to NXT when Rollins and Randy Orton   returns.  

[JO_75]

Thats why Vince created NXT. NXT is minor league of WWE. You go to WWE when a superstar is Injured. Why you think Tyler Breeze is on RAW and Smackdown? He's not the best wrestler. He will go right back down to NXT when Rollins and Randy Orton   returns.  

 

You can't be serious with this post right? Vince has NOTHING to do with NXT. Triple H runs and has complete control over NXT. Also when a guy gets called up, that's it. They are done with NXT and that is it. It has nothing to do with the injuries, in fact Breeze debuted on Raw & SD I believe before Rollins got injured and long after we knew Orton was injured.

[Nightman]

Jim Ross is returning to pro wrestling announcing, starting March 4, he will do english language play by play for New Japan Pro Wrestling on AXS TV.  He will replace Mauro Ranallo.   He will make 6 trips a year from his home in OKC to record them for the network from the TV Ashi feed.  

[Purple Punishment]

Watched a WWE event for the first time in over a decade. Rumble was so terrible.

That event did nothing to propel a talent to the top. Out of 30 superstars, Triple H was the best option to be champion for 15 times now?

The matches leading up to the event were boring. The rumble was pretty cool after Brock showed up and started annihilating the big guys. Then they use some weak plot twist with a bunch of big duck dynasty looking mugs throw him out. Cheesy.

Then this Rains guy comes back from the dead like he didn't get splashed trough the Spanish announce table only to be tossed out by HHH.

Their product totally sucks and lacks any real entertainment value if you ask me. I'll try watching WWE again in another 10 years. #bringbackAttitude

Edited January 25, 2016 by Purple Punishment

[JO_75]

Watched a WWE event for the first time in over a decade. Rumble was so terrible.

That event did nothing to propel a talent to the top. Out of 30 superstars, Triple H was the best option to be champion for 15 times now?

The matches leading up to the event were boring. The rumble was pretty cool after Brock showed up and started annihilating the big guys. Then they use some weak plot twist with a bunch of big duck dynasty looking mugs throw him out. Cheesy.

Then this Rains guy comes back from the dead like he didn't get splashed trough the Spanish announce table only to be tossed out by HHH.

Their product totally sucks and lacks any real entertainment value if you ask me. I'll try watching WWE again in another 10 years. #bringbackAttitude

 

I think if you never stopped watching, you would have a greater appreciation for last night and how many new young stars they have created since 2006. Also their whole roster is the size of the Ravens IR list at the moment with a lot of top guys out months with injuries. They literally had to scrap a lot of big matches planned due to the injuries. 

 

Buy the WWE Network(WWE's Netflix) and see what you have missed. I think watching the Network you will see that there is some real good talent out there. 

[Steve0x]

I saw it!!! BTW i have WWE Network. i was shocked to see Triple H won that belt.