The Pro Wrestling Thread

[TreTheRaven]

I don't know if you have guys have seen this but this video is simply amazing. Jim Ross sits down with CM Punk AND Stone Cold Steve Austin, discuss WWE 13, whether Austin thinks Punk would have survived in the Attitude Era and if Punk thinks Austin would survive in today's WWE, a possible CM Punk vs Austin match and MORE!

MUST WATCH!

Honestly I don't think Punk would last versus Stone Cold, if Steve was in his prime. Or for that matter in the Attitude ERA in general. I wonder how long Punk would have lasted in that day in wrestling. He probably would of fit better on wCw, IMO.

[FerrariFan87]

I'm confused, and this is a really stupid question, but... are these "allegations" of an affair between AJ and Cena real or just part of the storyline? I'm assuming the latter, but I'm curious nonetheless.

As a follow-up to that, what's the angle assuming this is a new storyline?

[JO_75]

I'm confused, and this is a really stupid question, but... are these "allegations" of an affair between AJ and Cena real or just part of the storyline? I'm assuming the latter, but I'm curious nonetheless.

As a follow-up to that, what's the angle assuming this is a new storyline?

Storyline. AJ is mine so Cena.. back off! lol.

Yeah apparently what they are going with is Vickie Guerrero said that AJ was having an "affair" with Cena and that they had dinner, and Vickie calls it a date while Cena argues it was a "business dinner." Vince and the Board bought into it as Vickie presented evidence of it and so they removed AJ. Cena and Vickie have been going back and fourth on twitter furthering the storyline. The latest is Vickie will show proof of the footage that Cena and AJ had a "affair" on Monday on Raw.

Though I find this whole storyline hypocritical considering Vickie was married to Edge while the GM of SD, I believe Dolph was considered her boyfriend at some point and she had an affair with Big Show while married to Edge while the SD GM. Though, if this keeps Cena out of the title picture than I'll be happy.

[theFRANCHISE]

The poor execution of the angle aside, I find it somewhat in poor taste since it's almost a jab at allegations that John Cena was unfaithful to his wife in real life.

I hope that the angle was partly Cena's idea. Otherwise, with his impending divorce, the timing is just bad.

[FerrariFan87]

Oh wow, I didn't realize that Cena was in divorce proceedings... badly done, WWE, unless, like you said, Cena signed off on it.

[JO_75]

The poor execution of the angle aside, I find it somewhat in poor taste since it's almost a jab at allegations that John Cena was unfaithful to his wife in real life.

I hope that the angle was partly Cena's idea. Otherwise, with his impending divorce, the timing is just bad.

Oh wow, I didn't realize that Cena was in divorce proceedings... badly done, WWE, unless, like you said, Cena signed off on it.

I'm pretty sure Cena signed off on it but I knew that they would have brought it up eventually, it was just a matter of when, not if they do bring it up.

[TreTheRaven]

So, does Ryback win tonight?

[TreTheRaven]

I can't believe the Big Show won.

[TreTheRaven]

That ref in the Ryback match, is the same ref that Punk had issues with the foot on the rope not too long ago. Makes me wonder if he's going to be part of the reason on how this match ends.

[TreTheRaven]

That ref in the Ryback match, is the same ref that Punk had issues with the foot on the rope not too long ago. Makes me wonder if he's going to be part of the reason on how this match ends.

I knew it.

[theFRANCHISE]

I was disappointed in the PPV overall. The pacing was inconsistent and I'm shocked they didn't go through with the Ziggler cash-in, especially since it was teased with Ziggler in full gear and oiled-up.

The ending of the PPV was well-executed except I expected Big Show to interfere and Ryback to incapacitate him so that Ziggler could pin him.

Otherwise, there were some good matches (the Divas match was a pleasant surprise) but the lackluster crowd detracted heavily from the broadcast for me.

[JO_75]

I was disappointed in the PPV overall. The pacing was inconsistent and I'm shocked they didn't go through with the Ziggler cash-in, especially since it was teased with Ziggler in full gear and oiled-up.

The ending of the PPV was well-executed except I expected Big Show to interfere and Ryback to incapacitate him so that Ziggler could pin him.

Otherwise, there were some good matches (the Divas match was a pleasant surprise) but the lackluster crowd detracted heavily from the broadcast for me.

The Crowd was horrible. I was stunned, I have to admit this PPV impressed me. Maybe I am alone on this but I thought it was a great PPV, minus the horrible crowd. Big Show/Sheamus really impressed me out of all the matches. The ending of Punk/Ryback was well... it reminded of how Nash beat Goldberg to end his streak after Scott Hall had tazed him. You look at it now and go, great way to further the storyline all a while making Punk and Ryback look strong. Then something tells me we are going to look back at this the same way we now look at the Finger Poke of Doom and the way Nash beat Golberg, "What were they thinking?" and "That was stupid".

[theFRANCHISE]

The post-match beatdown by Ryback looked like a star-making moment since everything about it, from the commentary to the camerawork, was excellent.

However, my problem is that they had a prime opportunity to transition into Ryback feuding with Show or even the U.S. Champion Antonio Cesaro (if the rumors of a Paul Heyman faction are true), and they decided not to pull the trigger. Even more, they had the chance to end the PPV on a genuinely shocking note by having Ziggler cash in on Show after Ryback destroys him, and they decided to save it for RAW or SD instead.

[JO_75]

Guys, I just got back from the Time Warner Cable Arena and I attended my very first Monday Night Raw EVER. I was amazingly surprised how much $57.65 got me and my friends because we were surprisingly close to the ring in section 116. We had got to our seats right when CM Punk was coming out for the opening segment. With Ryback, I was like there is no way he is that over, they have to pipe in the cheers for him. To quote Edge, I was Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. I believe even he got a louder cheer than Cena when he came out.

Basically the crowd itself, and I'm not sure how well the crowd came over on TV but it seemed to be dead for the most part. Though I really enjoyed the show, bought CM Punk's new T-Shirt. After Raw went off the air, Ryback faced CM Punk for the WWE Championship in a short match. It actually wound up being the very same ending to Raw where all the Survivor Series members were brawling with Ryback hitting the Shell Shock on Punk to send the crowd home happy.

[FerrariFan87]

Would someone post the results from HIAC? It sounds like Big Show is the new WHC and Punk retained the WWE Championship?

[theFRANCHISE]

Would someone post the results from HIAC? It sounds like Big Show is the new WHC and Punk retained the WWE Championship?

Randy Orton defeated Alberto Del Rio

Kofi Kingston © defeated The Miz - IC Title

Antonio Cesaro © defeated Justin Gabriel - U.S. Title

Team Rhodes Scholars defeated Team Hell No © by DQ; Team Hell No retains - Tag Titles

Eve © defeated Kaitlyn and Layla - Divas Title

Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara defeated the Prime Time Players

Big Show defeated Sheamus © - NEW World Heavyweight Champion

CM Punk © defeated Ryback - WWE Title

Referee Brad Maddox was a plant and hit Ryback with a low blow, allowing Punk to roll him up for a quick 3-count. Ryback destroyed Maddox and Punk after the match, and the show closed with a victorious shot of Ryback after hitting the Shellshock on Punk on top of the cell.

It was a star-making moment for Ryback -- for now, anyway.

[JO_75]

Well I'm sure it will get pulled down but the Documentary part of CM Punk's DVD is on Youtube and if anyone wants to kind of "rent" the DVD before buying it, here's your chance. I have watched the full documentary of his DVD and I will say, I am putting it up there with The Rock and Chris Jericho's Bio DVDs.

[FerrariFan87]

Thanks, Franny! How was Monday's Raw?

[TreTheRaven]

The British crowd is great tonight.

[JO_75]

Apparently Cowboys Stadium and Madison Square Garden are out of the running to host Wrestlemania 30. A new contender has risen from the smoke and mirrors and it is looking to be the city of New Orleans with The Superdome hosting Wrestlemania 30.

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/11092/backstage-update-wrestlemania-30-location-rumors

Road Trip to New Orleans anyone?

[theFRANCHISE]

I'm going to WrestleMania!!!!!!! Just bought my tix in the Ticketmaster presale.

1TWEET or FBWM29 if you're interested. Presale ends tomorrow morning at 10AM when the sale opens up to the public -- limited availability right now, but your best chance if you'd like to guarantee your spot!

[FerrariFan87]

That's great, Franny!

[JO_75]

I'm going to WrestleMania!!!!!!! Just bought my tix in the Ticketmaster presale.

1TWEET or FBWM29 if you're interested. Presale ends tomorrow morning at 10AM when the sale opens up to the public -- limited availability right now, but your best chance if you'd like to guarantee your spot!

You did get everyone tickets right? lol jk. Congrats on going to your first Wrestlemania next year! I'm going to start saving up for Wrestlemania 30 which is rumored to be held in New Orleans at the Super Dome.

Speaking of Wrestlemania, I bought WM 20 and Shawn Michaels DVD from a couple years ago for less than $20 at FYE. Now I need to find WM 17 and No Way Out 2004 on DVD.

If I could be serious for a moment, It was 7 years ago today that the WWE lost one of it's greatest performers ever to step inside the square circle. I honestly believe that wrestling died when Eddie Guerrero passed away.

[Purple Punishment]

What's going on in the hulksters world? Putting out sex tapes? His personal life is crazy. Guess its like that for all wrestlers. After getting the info on that, him offering his wife to the Warrior years back doesn't sound so far fetched.

I hope I didn't violate the COC but this is just bizarre

[JO_75]

What's going on in the hulksters world? Putting out sex tapes? His personal life is crazy. Guess its like that for all wrestlers. After getting the info on that, him offering his wife to the Warrior years back doesn't sound so far fetched.

I hope I didn't violate the COC but this is just bizarre

Hogan's life has gone down hill since he did that reality show 'Hogan Knows Best'. It's sad to see such a icon in Pro Wrestling flush his life down the drain the way he is. He should have stayed retired.

I'm going to guess that most people will not be watching Survivor Series tonight due to the Ravens-Steelers game? I just hope Punk retains the title, that's all I want to happen.

[JO_75]

I didn't see Survivor Series but I did read the results. In short, Punk will go to a year as Champion as he was able to defeat Cena and Ryback in the Triple Threat Match. Though he did do it with some help and not by Brad Maddox or Lesnar. In fact the WWE debuted Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose as they attacked Ryback and took him out of the match allowing Punk to pin Cena for the three count.

They are indeed getting Ziggler ready for the cash in as Team Ziggler won over Team Foley and Ziggler was the sole survivor of his team pinning Randy Orton. Eve is still the Divas Champion, Big Show retained the WHC over Sheamus, and AJ had evidence of Vickie fooling around and her and Vickie went back and fourth until Tamina attacked AJ from behind. Seems this will lead to AJ's first Diva feud and it will be against Tamina.

[bauer77]

I didn't see Survivor Series but I did read the results. In short, Punk will go to a year as Champion as he was able to defeat Cena and Ryback in the Triple Threat Match. Though he did do it with some help and not by Brad Maddox or Lesnar. In fact the WWE debuted Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose as they attacked Ryback and took him out of the match allowing Punk to pin Cena for the three count.

They are indeed getting Ziggler ready for the cash in as Team Ziggler won over Team Foley and Ziggler was the sole survivor of his team pinning Randy Orton. Eve is still the Divas Champion, Big Show retained the WHC over Sheamus, and AJ had evidence of Vickie fooling around and her and Vickie went back and fourth until Tamina attacked AJ from behind. Seems this will lead to AJ's first Diva feud and it will be against Tamina.

Ugh. I didn't expect Big Show to lose it to Sheamus, and i don't even want Sheamus to have it again anyway. I find him boring. I just can't wait till Ziggler/Orton get their title shot. I guess we'll have to wait till Rumble.

[BloodRaven]

Just some thoughts on the three NXT guys who keep jumping Ryback, Rollings is the indy darling and Reigns is Rocks cousin but neither is good on the mic, all they have is a great look.

[JO_75]

Just some thoughts on the three NXT guys who keep jumping Ryback, Rollings is the indy darling and Reigns is Rocks cousin but neither is good on the mic, all they have is a great look.

Yeah, and Ambrose is the new Internet Flavor within the IWC. Reigns is Rock's cousin? Wow.

[TreTheRaven]

Is this whole NXT story, like trying to start another Evolution type story?