Jackson And McNeil: What Happens Now?

[JO_75]

Here's something on a team interested in Vincent Jackson. McNabb to Jackson?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/29/report-redskins-interested-in-vincent-jackson/

[quote]Last week it was reported that the Seahawks expressed interest in a trade with the Chargers that would land restricted free agent Vincent Jackson in Seattle, but that the Chargers said no thanks. Now another team has been identified as a suitor for Jackson: [b]The Washington Redskins.[/b]

Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune quotes an unnamed source as saying "several other teams," including the Redskins, are interested in acquiring Jackson from the Chargers. [/quote]

Interesting, but if the Chargers said no to Seattle I doubt they would say yes to Washington but I'm sure Danny boy is wiling to over spend for Jackson.

[Perfekt]

well that would make the skins a legit threat having a proven qb and wr but they still have the oline to fix. i dont really care tho either way because i feel confindent in our team being top of the line.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Perfekt' date='30 June 2010 - 10:20 AM' timestamp='1277907633' post='428102']
well that would make the skins a legit threat having a proven qb and wr but [b]they still have the oline to fix.[/b] i dont really care tho either way because i feel confindent in our team being top of the line.
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That would give them a legit threat by far, and getting Jackson would be a great acquisition for them.

They still have an o-line to fix? They drafted Trent Williams to play Left Tackle, and they recently traded for Jammal Brown(former Saints Tackle) who will play Right Tackle. So they got two book end tackles, it's just a matter of fixing the interior at Guard and Center.

More Teams interested in Jackson:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/30/bears-among-teams-interested-in-vincent-jackson/

[quote]ESPN's Adam Schefter has identified at least three teams discussing going after Jackson. We knew about the Redskins and Seahawks. Schefter adds the Bears to the mix.[/quote]

Cutler to...... Intercepted looking for Vincent Jackson

So will anybody make a trade for Jackson or not that is the question.

[JO_75]

Well well well, I just gotta wonder if VJ gets traded to Washington, would this be considered tampering lol. PFT is reporting that VJ is working out with..... Donovan McNabb in Arizona.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/30/vincent-jackson-working-out-with-mcnabb/

[quote]NFL Network's Steve Wyche reports that Jackson is currently in Phoenix, [b]training with none other than Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb. [/b] McNabb annually works out in Arizona during the off-season, but Jackson is a new addition to the practice field out west as he continues to stay away from pre-training camp activities in hopes of securing a long-term contract. As we also would, Wyche cautions to not read too much into the connection. The players are simply trying to stay in shape. The Redskins' heavily rumored interest in Jackson, however, makes it more interesting than it normally would be.

Redskins coach [b]Mike Shanahan is known to be "a big fan" of San Diego's (for now) 1,000-plus yard receiver.[/b] [b]The fact that Shanahan's quarterback has suddenly developed a relationship with the player Shanahan came oh-so-close to drafting in 2005 can only serve to make a V-Jax-to-D.C. trade more likely[/b].
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[JO_75]

V-Jax braces for 4 Game Suspension: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/30/vincent-jackson-braces-for-four-game-suspension/

[quote]Lost, at times, in the contractual dispute between the Chargers and receiver Vincent Jackson is the fact that Jackson faces a suspension in the wake of a pair of DUI incidents.

Per a league source, a team with interest in Jackson has learned that he's expecting a four-game suspension from the league office.

The fact that Jackson faces a suspension likely has made him less inclined to sign his tender offer before the regular-season begins. The reality that he could miss as many as four games could make teams interested in trading for him less inclined to do so.[/quote]

A 4 Game suspension, well I wonder if this will drop his Fantasy Football Value if gets this 4 game suspension.

[Passepartout]

That will drop your value if you get a four-game suspension in the league.

[Wacko4Zacko]

[quote name='Passepartout' date='01 July 2010 - 12:31 AM' timestamp='1277958668' post='428373']
That will drop your value if you get a four-game suspension in the league.
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Which would get more teams interested since he wouldnt be worth so much to give up for, maybe a 2nd round pick he would be worth. Redskins seem to be the best place with Moss as a #2 WR. If Skins get Jackson, they are a legit threat in NFC east. Plus they could get rid of Haynesworth.

I doubt Jets will be involved. If they do I would be shocked since Santonio Holmes is also out with 4 game suspension.

[Alexir]

Whoever lands Jackson has to deal with him missing the first 4 games of the season due to his DUIs. I understand why Chargers won't give him big money, yet they are only taking a step back by letting him go.

[Wacko4Zacko]

If Jackson leaves SD, then I see T.O. wearing a chargers uniform next season.

[Wacko4Zacko]

Jackson will be suspended for the first 3 games.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d818ed169/article/chargers-wr-jackson-suspended-three-games-for-conduct

[JEEPercreepermd]

Just think back to last season, there were people here clamoring for this guy.

[FerrariFan87]

Well, V-Jax lost a lot of leverage with him getting suspended the first 3 games for violating the league's personal conduct policy. They both need to suck it up and sign.

[BloodRaven]

A lot of Chargers fans are saying he still has stone hands it's just he's a product of Rivers accuracy, now as much as that sounds like angry fans letting off steam it also sounds like it could be true.

[JO_75]

Well Now that the Chargers have extended Gates they are now working on LT Marcus McNeil, and they have begun contract talks.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d819687ed/article/chargers-lt-mcneills-reps-begin-discussions-on-longterm-deal

[quote]The San Diego Chargers have begun discussions with representatives for left tackle Marcus McNeill in recent days, a league source said Friday.McNeill has yet to sign his reduced restricted free-agent tender, but he'd like to remain a Charger and work out a long-term deal.

McNeill is optimistic that something can be worked out, though these talks have been preliminary. But the dialogue is scheduled to resume through the weekend, according to the source, and could result in a face-to-face session sometime in the next few weeks. Ample time remains before the start of the season to have something done, and [b]the odds of working out a long-term deal with McNeill certainly seem higher than they are with the team's two other unsigned veterans, Shawne Merriman and Vincent Jackson.[/b][/quote]

I wonder how VJ will feel seeing Gates and McNeil getting the money and he isn't. Especially since JLC is saying a deal is unlikely with Jackson yet McNeil and Gates get contracts. Since it seems in a couple weeks McNeil will get a contract and VJ likely won't, what's the likely hood VJ gets traded before the season and to what team?

[JO_75]

Well we can now make it official, Vincent Jackson isn't part of the plan in SD.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/12/vincent-jackson-not-a-part-of-the-plan-in-san-diego/

[quote]"Vincent Jackson is not a part of the plan," Acee writes. " I don't see them using the franchise [tag] on Jackson either. Not now. This has gotten ugly."[/quote]

Yeah The Chargers should trade Jackson get an extra 1st rounder from someone and use that 1st to draft VJ's replacement. There is no need for them to keep Jackson around if he isn't apart of the long term plan, they should just open up the trade block and say look VJ sign your tender and we'll trade you it's as simple as that.

[Perfekt]

i still think that he will end up with the skins.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Perfekt' timestamp='1281672518' post='450304']
i still think that he will end up with the skins.
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Me Too, I mean Snyder will gladly give up the money for him even if he is suspended for 4 games. I'm sure he'll also give up that 1st round pick it will require to give him. The Chargers should trade him now so they get value out of him now and instead letting him walk and get nothing in return.

[JO_75]

Well here's something positive with this whole issue with the Chargers. GM AJ Smith & Marcus McNeil have met but nothing came out of it but it is a start.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/18/marcus-mcneill-aj-smith-meet/

[quote]Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune reports that McNeill met Wednesday with G.M. A.J. Smith.

Per Acee, the session produced "nothing tangible," and no movement toward a long-term deal. McNeill reportedly requested the meeting so that he could communicate to Smith that the player and his agent are in "lockstep." Late late month, signs of dysfunction emerged regarding the role of agent Alvin Keels, with agent Jason Fletcher getting involved and Keels awkwardly contradicting himself as to whether Fletcher was authorized to be involved.

Recently, the Chargers sent a letter advising McNeill that, if he doesn't report to the team by August 20, he'll be placed on the roster-exempt list, which as a practical matter compels McNeill to report by Week 7, not by Week 10, in order to secure a year of credit and become eligible for unrestricted free agency in 2011, if the new rules permit unrestricted free agency upon the accrual of five or more years of service.
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It's a start for McNeil at least, maybe they can get something done by mid season but I still expect VJ to be traded though and that SD will use the 1st round pick they will get for VJ on one of the big WRs, Julio Jones, Michael Floyd or AJ Green to get Phillip a new # 1 because Malcolm Floyd isn't a # 1 receiver.

[JO_75]

Got some Vincent Jackson news to talk about. VJ will be allowed to play(if he gets traded) by his new teams 5th game. Now that is determined let the trade talk begin again.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/16/another-soft-deadline-for-a-vincent-jackson-trade/

[quote]Vincent Jackson could play in the fifth game of the season if he's traded, but he has to be traded soon for that to happen.

Jason La Canfora of the NFL Network has the entire NFL statement on Jackson's situation, which has a few interesting wrinkles to it.

[b]1. As part of the settlement, a moratorium will be in effect from now until 4 p.m. ET on Friday, September 17. In the meantime, any team interested in Jackson must receive permission from the Chargers before talking contract with Jackson's agents. A trade can't be worked out with the Chargers until the moratorium is over.

2. Jackson is eligible to play in the fifth game of the season if he's traded to a new team if he signs and is traded by 4PM ET on September 22.

3. If Jackson is not traded by 4 p.m. ET on September 22, he will serve the remainder of his three-game suspension and be placed on roster exempt until the day following the third game scheduled after the date he actually reports, regardless of any subsequent trade.[/b]

So a trade has to happen between Friday and Wednesday or any interested team loses out on two possible games from Jackson.[/quote]

So now the question becomes who becomes Jackson's new team? Seahawks, Rams, Redskins, Vikings, or some other unknown team that comes out of the blue to get him like The Bucs, Bears, who knows who will trade for VJ but it will be interesting to find out.

[flynismo]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1278149459' post='428976']<br />A lot of Chargers fans are saying he still has stone hands it's just he's a product of Rivers accuracy, now as much as that sounds like angry fans letting off steam it also sounds like it could be true.<br />[/quote]

I used to think that too, but watching him play against us last year made me a believer. Certainly doesn't hurt when Rivers is your QB, but Jackson has a ton of talent too..

[Wacko4Zacko]

Whoah imagine this... VJax gets traded this season. And next season Randy Moss's nightmare comes true, the patriots don't want him back so where does Moss go?

Randy moss to Chargers!?

That is actually really realistic.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' timestamp='1284685656' post='479013']
Whoah imagine this... VJax gets traded this season. And next season Randy Moss's nightmare comes true, the patriots don't want him back so where does Moss go?

Randy moss to Chargers!?

That is actually really realistic.
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Wow..... that is a good point and a very dangerous combination.

Does anyone have a update on Marcus McNeil? I know he and VJ didn't play last week, and I know VJ won't play this week but what about McNeil, are the Chargers close to any good news?

[BloodRaven]

Chargers are playing hardball. How this backfires spectacularly and ruins the entire season.

[PuRock]

I think the bigger question will be - Did Rivers make Jackson the WR he is? Or can Jackson play at an elite level wherever he is?

[JO_75]

I guess someone has worked out a new contract with Jackson.... it's just a matter of who and will the Chargers do it?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/18/vincent-jackson-has-at-least-one-suitor-if-the-chargers-will-pull-the-trigger/

[quote]Per a league source, at least one team has worked out a deal with Jackson; the question becomes whether the Chargers can agree to the terms of a trade.

The team currently linked most strongly to Jackson is the [b]Vikings.[/b] The [b]Seahawks[/b] and the [b]Rams[/b] also have been mentioned in the past. Jackson worked out in the off-season with Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb.[/quote]

I am going to say this comes down to Washington, Minnesota, Rams and Seahawks barring any injuries in week 2 which would cause teams to want to trade for VJ.

[McBurks]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1284831449' post='479937']
I guess someone has worked out a new contract with Jackson.... it's just a matter of who and will the Chargers do it?

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I am going to say this comes down to Washington, Minnesota, Rams and Seahawks barring any injuries in week 2 which would cause teams to want to trade for VJ.
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I think the Rams and Washington are the front runners in this, Childress said he doesn't plan on adding anymore WR to his team and Seattle did pretty well last week against the 49ers w/ their WR's. Bradford has showed the Rams he can get it done and adding a big time WR to his team will potentially make this team a playoff caliber team. Dan Snyder won't mind spending the money either and this Redskins team is either playoffs or bust w. Donovan there.

[flynismo]

Anyone else smelling a Jackson for Haynesworth trade?

[BloodRaven]

The Chargers run a 3-4, why would they trade for Haynesworth?

[JO_75]

So No trade for VJ. Sounds like AJ Smith is continuing to play hard ball with VJ and Marcus McNeil. You think anything will happen with VJ before the trade deadline where a team who is trying to be a contender will go and trade for VJ for 1 year to help them get into the playoffs or help them get to the Super Bowl???

It would be interesting to see VJ get traded at the deadline to a team who is trying to get into the playoffs sorta like the MLB Trade Deadline.

[PuRock]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1285190952' post='486060']
So No trade for VJ. Sounds like AJ Smith is continuing to play hard ball with VJ and Marcus McNeil. You think anything will happen with VJ before the trade deadline where a team who is trying to be a contender will go and trade for VJ for 1 year to help them get into the playoffs or help them get to the Super Bowl???

It would be interesting to see VJ get traded at the deadline to a team who is trying to get into the playoffs sorta like the MLB Trade Deadline.
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I just think its stupid what San Diego is doing. They are going to lose the guy at the end of the year anyways. They should try and get anything they can right now. They should've took the best offer on the table at 4 pm. It's stupid, because now if they wait, his value will be less. Teams start thinking they can wait out the year and pick him up as a FA in 2011 w/o shelling out any draft picks.

The only reason why San Diego could be asking so much is because they want this guy to play into the playoffs with them. It's the only reason. Either they get a lot for him or they get to use his services. But how effective will his 'loaned' services be?