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Panthers' Or Ravens' Running Backs?

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  1. 1. Who has the better running backs?

    • Ravens: Ray Rice, Willis McGahee, LeRron McClain
    • Panthers: Johnathan Stewert, DeAngelo Williams

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I decided to make this a new topic to see what the whole Flock thought.

Let me remind you: this is now, not last season. This is the current Ray Rice with the year of starter experience he know has along with his supposedly stellar offseason.

And, like which was mentioned before, I do not acknowledge or care that DeAngelo made the Pro Bowl in 2009, so did Vince Young.

So what do all you guys think, without homerism. It is no doubt a tough decision but I had to take the Ravens.
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[b]Panthers[/b].

But narrowly. I just think Williams and Stewart are both sensational backs and that offensive line sure knows how to generate some running lanes.

Not that ours doesn't, but I just think Carolina at this stage.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed_Pick_Six' date='19 June 2010 - 09:03 PM' timestamp='1277010215' post='423830']
[b]Panthers[/b].

But narrowly. I just think Williams and Stewart are both sensational backs and that offensive line sure knows how to generate some running lanes.

Not that ours doesn't, but I just think Carolina at this stage.
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Not saying you are wrong, but the topic is of RB's, not O-line.

If you believe they are better because of their O-line, then that doesnt account for their own skill.

Not that valid of a point, considering we have a great line too, I was just saying.
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If the question (like the other thread) was best rushing tandem, hands down it would be the Panthers duo.

But best rushing attack will be the Ravens this year. Despite the RBs, the Ravens have a pass rushing offensive line and have a passing attack to boot. So the rushing game can become much more prolific in our offense. Ray Rice will have the opportunity to break some long runs.

The Panthers offense is currently being run through Matt Moore. Defenses will be loading the box on the dangerous duo making it much harder for the two to eclipse the 1k mark again.
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[quote name='PuRock' date='20 June 2010 - 06:09 PM' timestamp='1277010568' post='423832']
If the question (like the other thread) was best rushing tandem, hands down it would be the Panthers duo.

But best rushing attack will be the Ravens this year. Despite the RBs, the Ravens have a pass rushing offensive line and have a passing attack to boot. So the rushing game can become much more prolific in our offense. Ray Rice will have the opportunity to break some long runs.

[b]The Panthers offense is currently being run through Matt Moore. Defenses will be loading the box on the dangerous duo making it much harder for the two to eclipse the 1k mark again.[/b]
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Having watched every game the Panthers played last year, thats what all teams do.

It does not matter, they just run through, past and over it.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed_Pick_Six' date='19 June 2010 - 09:15 PM' timestamp='1277010911' post='423838']
Having watched every game the Panthers played last year, thats what all teams do.

It does not matter, they just run through, past and over it.
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Yea I know what you mean.

But that may not be the case anymore.

Matt Moore showed some promise last year, and with Jimmy Clausen here as well not to mention the acquisition of Golden Tate is huge and although they certainly wont be an offensive passing powerhouse, but enough that they will have to be checked unless the other team have corner pairs like the Jets.
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I hope people don't think I dislike our RBs in anyway, because they are fantastic and I love what we have.

I'm just being objective and having watched both teams full season, it has to be Double Trouble in Carolina.

In saying that, there is no reason we can't and won't surpass that attack this season!
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If you plan on basing this on the other topic, this thread should be called, "Who has the best duo?" If were discussing duos, then Ray Rice is slightly better than DeAngelo Williams, while Jonathan Stewart is significantly better than Willis McGahee. Tandem wise = Panthers. Backfield in general has to go to the Ravens, because three heads are better than two, and McClain adds another element to the already potent attack.
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I would say a little more than slightly with the fact that he now has experience coming into this season and is apparently having a great offseason, therefore making it close leaning towards the Ravens imo,

but I generally agrred with your points, especially the 3 heads are better than one.
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Lol, people having trouble being objective here.

Having seen all 16 games both teams played, I stand by my choice in Carolina.

I can see why Ravens fans who haven't seen Carolina on a weekly basis would pick our tandem though.
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Well either way Im sure we all agree it is close ERpick6,

So I could also understand if one who has seen Carolina's duo would choose the Ravens because either side is arguable and can be right, like we are pretty much seeing on the other topic.
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Panthers Only because theirs been games where Mcgahee just doesnt show up but then again he's an ace when he does
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Both sets are terribly close in my eyes. I still had to give it to Carolina. Stewart and Williams are just nasty in Tandem.

I think McGahee needs to see more time on the field this season so we can have a "true" tandem. There was a stretch last season where Willis was a scoring machine, then he was just abandoned for quite a few games for no reason at all. Lets get the ball in his hands some more to work with the magnificent things Ray Rice is doing. They both could easily achieve 1000 yards this season if we stick to our roots with "pound the rock, kill the clock"
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Hate to say it but it's Carolina by a hair, ever since they changed to zone-blocking that O-line has made all their HB's look like rockets.
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Seeing how Carolina had the first EVER RB duo to each gain over 1100 yards I'll also have to say the panthers. Interestingly, most of the people who have commented say the panther's attack is better but in the vote stewart/williams are being beaten 2:1
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Best runningback tandem: Panthers. Wow, that hurt me to say that, I ain't gonna lie....... BUT it is a close one. I just have to go with Stewart and Williams over McGahee, who did have 12 TDs but little time to get anything going otherwise. McClain was also used more in blocking. But Rice is better than Stewart and Williams in one-on-one situations, but he just can't beat them both by himself.
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This thread tricked me. I thought it was going to be based on who had the better running backs based on the thread title but then the poll said best rushing attack. I think the Ravens will have a better overall running attack based on our ability to throw the ball and the strength of our running backs. But talent of rbs I'd have to give to the Panthers. They just have two amazing backs while I think we have one amazing back and 2 very good compliment backs.
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I would love to have the best RB tandem in the league in our backfield, Stewart and Williams are both BEASTS and both topped the 1000 yard mark. Panthers. None of you must of seen Stewart rip the crap out of Minnesota.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7HXhxVjAIE
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Like I said in the other topic, Rice and McGahee are a formidable tandem but Williams and Stewart are a notch above them in my opinion. Both DeAngelo and Jonathan are able to slip and break tackles inside but they also have the speed to rip long runs against good competition.
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[quote name='ed.s52' date='20 June 2010 - 01:22 AM' timestamp='1277011329' post='423843']
Yea I know what you mean.

But that may not be the case anymore.

Matt Moore showed some promise last year, and with Jimmy Clausen here as well not to mention [b]the acquisition of Golden Tate[/b] is huge and although they certainly wont be an offensive passing powerhouse, but enough that they will have to be checked unless the other team have corner pairs like the Jets.
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Panthers got Brandon LaFell I'm pretty sure. Tate went to the Seahawks.
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Do some of you actually even watch Panthers games? Because if you did, this wouldn't even be an argument. I love Ray Rice, i even think the guy could be the next Marshall Faulk. But we can't know anything for sure yet just after 1 season - and Cam Cameron can make RBs better than they actually are without him (LT, Ronnie Brown). DeAngelo Williams is imo a top 5 RB. Johnathan Stewart ran 1100 yards as a backup too. I followed Stewart up until the draft feeling that he was going to be a big deal at RB for some team, and i feel badly for him because he is playing backup when he could be a pro bowler elsewhere. The Panthers have 2 of the best RBs in the NFL and hands down the best duo, i don't even think this is an argument. Some of you guys need to be more objective.
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I don't have time to read through all the comments, so sorry if this has been used.

The Panthers by a long shot. DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart form some kind of RB duo straight from the Twilight Zone. Both are amazingly amazing, and not to mention both are very young, and don't have a history of injuries. Although I do think Ray is better than Stewart, he's about tied with Williams in terms of pure speed/elusiveness/athleticism. If you've ever watched Williams play, he has the same "wow" factor comparable to Chris Johnson.

Plus it's not even worth discussing who's better between McGahee/Stewart, McGahee/Williams. McGahee is on the decline.
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I just think it's 2 completely different offenses. If Ray and Willis split carries and ran as many running plays as those 2 I think they would be the better tandem.
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[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='22 June 2010 - 01:57 AM' timestamp='1277186267' post='424652']

Plus it's not even worth discussing who's better between McGahee/Stewart, McGahee/Williams. [b]McGahee is on the decline.[/b]
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Tell that to Hiram Eugene.
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[quote name='Alexir' date='22 June 2010 - 01:07 AM' timestamp='1277186825' post='424657']
Tell that to Hiram Eugene.
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quoted for the truth. Willis put him on his butt! And got that 6 on the board for us.
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I don't think McGahee is on the decline either, he just gets lax on his work ethic. At 28 and with relatively low wear and tear he probably won't decline before 30 like other feature backs do, besides, declining HBs don't rack up 12 touchdowns.
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I have a lot of respect for Williams and Stewart and both could start on most any other team in the league, but I look at our RB's and if you include McClain then I think we have three backs that could start on most any other team so i have to give the edge to Rice, Willis, and LeRon. IMO McClain tops the scales in the Ravens' favor in this argument. You can never argue having a pro-bowl FB that can take on the full load if it was needed, and his blocking is phenominal as well.
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