Schefter Reporting Ravens' Last Week Of OTA Cancelled

[FlaccoFlicker]

From Adam Schefter twitter he is reporting the last week of the Ravens organized team activities is being cancelled due to team violating practice rules of CBA.Havent found any additional news but am looking.wow i wonder what happened

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

[FlaccoFlicker]

apparently it was the intensity and tempo and the players being at the facility too long

http://bit.ly/9UiT3j

[Bltravens]

Sounds like a Harbaugh thing to do

[BirdWatcher]

I wonder who complained?

[JO_75]

[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' date='07 June 2010 - 02:44 PM' timestamp='1275936276' post='418868']
apparently it was the intensity and tempo and the players being at the facility too long

http://bit.ly/9UiT3j
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Um.... ok so what? Intensity was an issue??? We are trying to prepare for the season, coaches aren't going to baby the players and not make them feel ready for the real game itself. If we want to have high intensity than let it be, not step in and stop us. Just because we are training harder than the 31 other teams don't mean we have to stop because the 31 other teams don't want to practice as hard as we are. Players being at the facility too long? Maybe some players stayed by themselves and went into the weight room on their own, maybe players are studying game film. Come on NFL... can someone explain this to further detail because this sounds just so stupid.

[FlaccoFlicker]

[quote name='Moderator 3' date='07 June 2010 - 02:50 PM' timestamp='1275936626' post='418872']
I wonder who complained?
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wnst is stating complaint was made by the nflpa so it could have been made on behalf of any number of players
hmm curiouser and curiouser

[FlaccoFlicker]

[quote name='JO_75' date='07 June 2010 - 02:50 PM' timestamp='1275936646' post='418873']
Um.... ok so what? Intensity was an issue??? We are trying to prepare for the season, coaches aren't going to baby the players and not make them feel ready for the real game itself. If we want to have high intensity than let it be, not step in and stop us. Players being at the facility too long? Come on NFL... can someone explain this to further detail because this sounds stupid. I bet the Patriots, Cowboys and Steelers wouldn't get in trouble for this.
[/quote]
im searching jo as much as possible it is kinda lame but I guess the NFL has rules on practicing too hard?Maybe it's to prevent another heat exhaustion death like a few years back I am not sure

[Runnin Raven]

What the heck?! This isn't freaking college anymore!! Sorry, I need to calm down now .

[funky141]

Looks like there is a bad link in a Raven uniform. One or many players complaining to the union that they are working to hard. I guess a Super Bowl is not on their 2010 agenda. Need to weed these players.

[ravensfan160]

I can't believe a player complained. It was probably an NFL official that was sent to observe practice.

[Rinbee]

[quote name='ravensfan160' date='07 June 2010 - 03:02 PM' timestamp='1275937362' post='418881']
I can't believe a player complained. It was probably an NFL official that was sent to observe practice.
[/quote]

Maybe Gaither was looking for more time off now that he signed is tender and his toe is better.

[MiselisM]

Apparently some players reached out about these violations.

According to NFL Fanhouse,


[quote]A source close to the situation said the Ravens violated the rules by conducting "offense-defense" drills in which linemen block each other in conditions that simulate game action. Such drills -- and really, just about anything beyond seven-on-seven simulations -- are against the rules during this portion of the offseason, and complaints from [b]Ravens players to the union prompted the investigation that resulted in this ruling[/b]. .
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[BohBalmerOsbohs]

no big deal. work them harder in training camp

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='MiselisM' date='07 June 2010 - 03:18 PM' timestamp='1275938303' post='418901']
Apparently some players reached out about these violations.

According to NFL Fanhouse,


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Man thats dissapointing to read. How many other employees can complain they're being worked too hard and not get fired? Seriously.

[Alexir]

Wow, it's one thing for an NFL official to squeal on us but it's another thing for a RAVEN to squeal about the coaches working them too hard. That is ridiculous. You get paid hundreds of thousands to millions to play the game you love and you are gonna complain about doing 7 on 7 drills? Yes it was illegal. Yes it was wrong. But players shouldn't be going to the union about this.

I really want to know who said what because those players just lost a lot of respect.

[Purple Punishment]

as stated above. guess a super bowl isn't important. we have been let down for the past 2 years coming up short with the bitter taste of losing our superbowl shots. we do not want to be denied this year so we are just going hard. what's wrong with that? what would Ray Lewis think of anyone who hasn't paid as many dues as him crying about being overworked

[Alexir]

I would really like to know who did it but we will never know it seems. I ll hit up Adam on twitter and ask him lol.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Rinbee' date='07 June 2010 - 03:08 PM' timestamp='1275937693' post='418887']
Maybe Gaither was looking for more time off now that he signed is tender and his toe is better.
[/quote]

On The SG show, Scott speculated that Drew Rosenhaus and Jared Gaither might have complained to the league about it. Just pure Speculation, but that does make you wonder why Drew is sticking his nose in our business. I think he believes Gaither won't get the big money deal from us and that he doesn't want us to be working too hard where Gaither gets hurt and it hurts Gaither chances of a big contract. That's just my theory.

[quote name='ravensfan160' date='07 June 2010 - 03:26 PM' timestamp='1275938766' post='418911']
Man thats dissapointing to read. How many other employees can complain they're being worked too hard and not get fired? Seriously.
[/quote]

I know. That is crazy... but hey think about it this way, would you want to complain and get fired from a typical job without having to hear anything from Ray Lewis or John Harbaugh or would you want to tell on the Ravens and face getting a sit down with Ray and being put in John's dog house.

[theFRANCHISE]

Teams around the league do this all the time -- they just never get caught until someone squeals. This is not on the level of, say, forcing a player with a concussion to play or anything of that sort, so I see no need to report a violation such as this.

Could it potentially give a team a competitive advantage over those that follow the rules? Not necessarily; though (half-heartedly) simulating game action helps with fundamentals, an extra week of hard practice isn't going to do much in June compared to actual game action and training camp in August.

[XxSizzleXx]

It's not as big of an issue as some of us are making it out to be, if Harbaugh and Ozzie admit that they were wrong and made a mistake this isn't a big deal. They said it won't happen again.

[lgcs27288]

Whoever squealed must be on special teams because that is the primary focus of the last 2 OTA's that got cut are. Man what a lamo, whoever squealed must not want to become the best that they can be.

[Bullrush]

Probably some of the rookies. We never had this issue before and those rookies usually are somewhat lazy when they come in.

Hopefully Ray finds out who that was. Should be fun to see Ray slap him around the field.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='XxSizzleXx' date='07 June 2010 - 03:59 PM' timestamp='1275940751' post='418939']
It's not as big of an issue as some of us are making it out to be, if Harbaugh and Ozzie admit that they were wrong and made a mistake this isn't a big deal. They said it won't happen again.
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It's just the principle of the matter. This is about a player complaining to the union for being worked too hard. It's not like a worker in a trade complaining because of unrealistic or unhealthy work conditions, this is a football player complaining about workouts. It's not as if they were being denied water or denied breaks or being worked beyond the allotted hours, it just sounds like someone lacking work ethic. Sure, temperatures are hot, but players are within their rights to request a break if they feel as if they are about to collapse.

[JO_75]

Now hold on a second, now if I'm wrong and this is a completely different scenario tell me. I just read a fight broke out at Jaguars camp.. with an offensive lineman and a defensive lineman going at it after doing 11 on 11 drills, now how can we get in trouble but from what I read about it an offensive lineman knocked the defensive linemans helmet off yet this will probably be ok and the Jags not get in trouble.

Am I right or is this a different scenario than what we got in trouble for? It sounds to me they should be in violation of high intensity if you ask me.

[Alexir]

[quote name='JO_75' date='07 June 2010 - 04:03 PM' timestamp='1275940998' post='418945']
Now hold on a second, now if I'm wrong and this is a completely different scenario tell me. I just read a fight broke out at Jaguars camp.. with an offensive lineman and a defensive lineman going at it after doing 11 on 11 drills, now how can we get in trouble but from what I read about it an offensive lineman knocked the defensive linemans helmet off yet this will probably be ok and the Jags not get in trouble.

Am I right or is this a different scenario than what we got in trouble for? It sounds to me they should be in violation of high intensity if you ask me.
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Shoot, our guys go at it every year! I think it was JJ fighting last year.

[Rinbee]

[quote name='Bullrush' date='07 June 2010 - 04:00 PM' timestamp='1275940849' post='418941']
Probably some of the rookies. We never had this issue before and those rookies usually are somewhat lazy when they come in.
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If it was a rookie I wonder if it has something to do with Harbs bringing the rookies and vets together before the rookie camp. In other words, the rookies had to step it up right from the start. No preschool cut and paste play for them this year!

[Runnin Raven]

I gotta believe Harbs is absolutely spitting bullets right now. He just had a week of planned work pulled out from under him. Oh man, TC could get ugly.

[theFRANCHISE]

My theory is, if some of these guys were in shape and participating in the offseason workout program at the facility, they might not have any problem with these drills. The coaching staff is comprised mostly of guys who played the game before, either at the collegiate or the professional level -- so they're not strangers to the rigors of the sport. They would know if their players are being overworked, especially when a lot of players are probably comfortable going to their position coaches with any issues they have, given the bond that some of them share.

Bottom line, someone is either playing games here (Drew Rosenhaus possibly using Gaither to complain as leverage) or someone just can't handle the work load.

[bossman419]

Awww somebody got too sweaty... Those poor guys.

[BadNewsBearBalto]

JUST MAYBE someone didn't blow the whistle,maybe the nfl has found another way to attempt to control the season outcome and place dissension in our locker room. MAYBE more fans throughout the country are finally catching on to the clever manner in witch the nfl uses their specified officiating squads to control the outcome of games. MAYBE the fans are finally reaching the reality that nfl are a bunch of SCOUNDRELS that politically and financially have their own agenda at the cost of giving the fans fair play, especially, if their team is not politically correct!!! If a RAven did blow the whistle, which I doubt,than I say in the words that are found in the movie " The Imposters" Good Bye Bussy Bussy Boy" I wonder how many times the nfl has received such a complaint with no action.