Ray Rice Vs. The Jets Defense

[J-man]

Surprising, I feel Ray Rice will have success on opening night, although the Jets shut down the run last year. I'm watching the Jags-Jets game last year on NFL replay, and MJD, who is highly comparable to Ray Rice, is tearing it up. He is using his small size and strength to make people miss, and that's what Ray does best. If we can get Ray Rice the ball with room to work with, I'm sure he could be effective.

[Ed_Reed20]

I see Ray having success against NY too. If Birk and Grubbs can handle Jenkins, Rice should have success on the ground and neither Bart nor Harris can keep up with him so he should have a good night in the receiving department too.

[T-ray]

NYJ can stop any runner, but Ray Rice is an excellent back who can run against any team. Who will win out in the end?? Depends on the lines. If the Defensive line has their will on our O-Line, then it'll be a long night for Rice. And if our line manhandles their line, then I think Ray Rice will be phenomenal. But its still a long ways off, and injuries could occur between now and then.

[theFRANCHISE]

Who says Rice has to run the ball? Who says he can't tear up the Jets defense in the passing attack?

[T-ray]

lol, he will be great in the passing aspect of the game, because David Harris can't hang with him.

[H8R]

Well, Rex has effectively made Revis head grow to monumental proportions. I heard he 's asking for a 20mil. per contract. Revis said it wasnt true but he DOES want to be the highest paid CB. Heard it on NFLN. Sorry, no link

[Shammy]

barts gonna get shook worse than he did in the divisonal game against the titans (chris johnson)

[edreedfromtheu]

Just remember...

Kris Jenkins is back.

With upgraded secondary, they can bring even MORE people on the run blitz.

Rex has beef with the Ravens, and will be drawing up things I'm sure even Ray Lewis never saw when Rex was putting defensive schemes together for the Ravens. He WILL be bringing it all on opening night. New stadium, everyone expecting them to be a let down after last year, playing his former team, etc. The Ravens are going to get all they can handle, and the game will pretty much fall on Flacco. Last year, the Jags were blah and the Jets probably had a hard time getting up for them. And yes, I know a professional team shouldn't have to "get up" to play when they get paid millions, but you see it every year... even with the Ravens. They often lose, or almost lost, games that should be no problem.

So while you see Rice having success against the Jets, I see him getting shut down. But that's the great thing about football, nothing matters until the game is played.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='J-man' date='23 May 2010 - 02:22 PM' timestamp='1274646148' post='413424']
Surprising, I feel Ray Rice will have success on opening night, although the Jets shut down the run last year. I'm watching the Jags-Jets game last year on NFL replay, and MJD, who is highly comparable to Ray Rice, is tearing it up. He is using his small size and strength to make people miss, and that's what Ray does best. If we can get Ray Rice the ball with room to work with, I'm sure he could be effective.
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Jets had the #8 rush defense in the league last year, and they dont exactly play in a run heavy division. Their rush D is certainly exploitable. Its not like their the Steelers from 08 where they gave up like 70 a game. Where Rice is gonna shake the Jets is in the pass game, not one of their LBs has any type of sideline to sideline speed, the closest is Bart and Bart is bad when hes not playing downhill.

[XxSizzleXx]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' date='23 May 2010 - 03:04 PM' timestamp='1274648677' post='413442']
Just remember...

Kris Jenkins is back.

With upgraded secondary, they can bring even MORE people on the run blitz.

Rex has beef with the Ravens, and will be drawing up things I'm sure even Ray Lewis never saw when Rex was putting defensive schemes together for the Ravens. He WILL be bringing it all on opening night. New stadium, everyone expecting them to be a let down after last year, playing his former team, etc. The Ravens are going to get all they can handle, and the game will pretty much fall on Flacco. Last year, the Jags were blah and the Jets probably had a hard time getting up for them. And yes, I know a professional team shouldn't have to "get up" to play when they get paid millions, [b]but you see it every year... even with the Ravens. They often lose, or almost lost, games that should be no problem.[/b]

So while you see Rice having success against the Jets, I see him getting shut down. But that's the great thing about football, nothing matters until the game is played.
[/quote]

I don't even think Harbaugh has lost to a team yet with a losing record...

[Bltravens]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' date='23 May 2010 - 03:04 PM' timestamp='1274648677' post='413442']
Just remember...

Kris Jenkins is back.

With upgraded secondary, they can bring even MORE people on the run blitz.

Rex has beef with the Ravens, and will be drawing up things I'm sure even Ray Lewis never saw when Rex was putting defensive schemes together for the Ravens. He WILL be bringing it all on opening night. New stadium, everyone expecting them to be a let down after last year, playing his former team, etc. The Ravens are going to get all they can handle, and the game will pretty much fall on Flacco. Last year, the Jags were blah and the Jets probably had a hard time getting up for them. And yes, I know a professional team shouldn't have to "get up" to play when they get paid millions, but you see it every year... even with the Ravens. They often lose, or almost lost, games that should be no problem.

So while you see Rice having success against the Jets, I see him getting shut down. But that's the great thing about football, nothing matters until the game is played.
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Against most teams I would say yes, but Mason had no problem against SD last year when he was our only WR, Boldin and Revis could be a wash, but Stallworth/our TEs on their safeties/nickel should be a mismatch. Their safety play is average at best.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

[quote name='Bltravens' date='23 May 2010 - 04:13 PM' timestamp='1274649228' post='413449']
Against most teams I would say yes, but Mason had no problem against SD last year when he was our only WR, Boldin and Revis could be a wash, but Stallworth/our TEs on their safeties/nickel should be a mismatch. Their safety play is average at best.
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agreed! i think the game will come down to the success of the TE's and stallworth. hopefully boldin/mason and their starting secondary will nullify. if stallworth can stretch the field deep, and the TE's can exploit the middle of the field then we should dominate. if those 2 things happen the run game will open up and rice should have a field day.

i think our D will shut down their run game and force sanchez to air things out. if we can get some pass rush going and force him to make quick decisions, our CB's should hold up (esp. since holmes wont be playing) and allow us to rack up some INT's since sanchez coughed up 20 last year. this game will be won by our offense, most importantly by stallworth and the TE's opening up the field early on and rice/mcgahee/mcclain chewing up the clock and pounding the ball in from short distances.

i see a close game through 3 quarters but we open it up in the 4th. they offense will sruggle, and their D will be so worn down at the end of the game (with us having several long drive both in distance and in time) bc we'll be completing short passes to the TE's and to rice, and dominating 3rd and shorts and goal line situations. should allow for some big plays and lots of scoring in the 4th quarter.

but these are all guesses!! cant wait til we get to watch

[JohnJohnson]

Ray Rice will have a great game, mark my words. The Jets are great against the pass, but we have enough weapons to open it up for Rice.

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='23 May 2010 - 04:37 PM' timestamp='1274647050' post='413427']
Who says Rice has to run the ball? Who says he can't tear up the Jets defense in the passing attack?
[/quote]
Yeah, one way to beat the blitz is by throwing quick screens and checkdowns. As tired as we were of checkdowns last year, I expect to see a lot of them the first couple of weeks, since Boldin and Stallworth still have more chemistry to build with Flacco.

Now as far as running the ball, I can see him having his way with the Jets D. He could wear them down, and even if not, he's one of those players that you must keep an eye on, cuz Ray can score at ANY TIME.

[RayRiceRulez]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' date='23 May 2010 - 04:04 PM' timestamp='1274648677' post='413442']
Just remember...

Kris Jenkins is back.

With upgraded secondary, they can bring even MORE people on the run blitz.

Rex has beef with the Ravens, and will be drawing up things I'm sure even Ray Lewis never saw when Rex was putting defensive schemes together for the Ravens. He WILL be bringing it all on opening night. New stadium, everyone expecting them to be a let down after last year, playing his former team, etc. The Ravens are going to get all they can handle, and the game will pretty much fall on Flacco. Last year, the Jags were blah and the Jets probably had a hard time getting up for them. And yes, I know a professional team shouldn't have to "get up" to play when they get paid millions, but you see it every year... even with the Ravens. They often lose, or almost lost, games that should be no problem.

So while you see Rice having success against the Jets, I see him getting shut down. But that's the great thing about football, nothing matters until the game is played.
[/quote]

I think many people look at the word 'success' in many different ways. For instance, I think if Rice pulled a 150 yd, 3 TD game, it would have been a successful one. On the flip side, however, if Rice pulled a 30 yd, no TD game because he was being spied by Bart or whoever and covered by a corner in the passing game, which in turn allows Mason or Boldin (or Flacco, passing wise) a monumental game, it would still be a success by Rice in my book.

As for rex and, what i am now dubbing, his 'revenge schemes' against us, there is a reason why the plays he calls are called 'high [i]risk[/i], high reward.' Should they all work out, he'll be rewarded with a win. But should he call too many, or push his defense to be reckless, I feel that we will tear them apart.

I guess the gist of what i'm saying is, we shall see! (i know, horrible closing to an argument)

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='RayRiceRulez' date='23 May 2010 - 06:22 PM' timestamp='1274653369' post='413474']
I think many people look at the word 'success' in many different ways. For instance, I think if Rice pulled a 150 yd, 3 TD game, it would have been a successful one. On the flip side, however, if Rice pulled a 30 yd, no TD game because he was being spied by Bart or whoever and covered by a corner in the passing game, which in turn allows Mason or Boldin (or Flacco, passing wise) a monumental game, it would still be a success by Rice in my book.

As for rex and, what i am now dubbing, his 'revenge schemes' against us, there is a reason why the plays he calls are called 'high [i]risk[/i], high reward.' Should they all work out, he'll be rewarded with a win. But should he call too many, or push his defense to be reckless, I feel that we will tear them apart.

I guess the gist of what i'm saying is, we shall see! (i know, horrible closing to an argument)
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Whether or not the game is succussful depends on whether or not we win. Numbers are great, but not that important.

[Milton145]

If Jets blitz us the whole night I see us tearing them up badly with Q and Ray Rice

[H8R]

I never seen a fan base be soo worried about a team. The Jets are no better the we are... they lost 7 games like we did last year.

[XxSizzleXx]

[quote name='H8R' date='23 May 2010 - 04:47 PM' timestamp='1274654838' post='413488']
I never seen a fan base be soo worried about a team. The Jets are no better the we are... they lost 7 games like we did last year.
[/quote]

Not worried, more like excited.

[ellicottraven]

It really depends on whether Kris Jenkins' play... I don't know if any of you watched his interview on NFL Total Access the other day, but he is a beast! Should he drop his weight down he will be hard to run against. However, Ray Rice is a slippery beast himself - so we will have to wait and see how it goes... I am afraid of the match up problems the Jets may create for us. I will tell you this much, if we win this one, we are going all the way! Rex Ryan knows our personnel all too well and he scares me - the fat SOB!

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='ellicottraven' date='23 May 2010 - 07:17 PM' timestamp='1274656662' post='413497']
[b]It really depends on whether Kris Jenkins' play... I don't know if any of you watched his interview on NFL Total Access the other day, but he is a beast! Should he drop his weight down he will be hard to run against.[/b] However, Ray Rice is a slippery beast himself - so we will have to wait and see how it goes... I am afraid of the match up problems the Jets may create for us. I will tell you this much, if we win this one, we are going all the way! Rex Ryan knows our personnel all too well and he scares me - the fat SOB!
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He has the potential of creating matchup problems for our OL, but I doubt he himself is in a very good physical state after tearing his ACL last year. When your that heavy, playing pro football with a newly fixed knee should be very very difficult.

[theFRANCHISE]

If anyone should know how to beat a Rex Ryan defense, it'd be the Ravens and Joe Flacco. Remember, Ray Lewis and Ed Reed played under that Ryan system for four years, so they should understand all of Ryan's blitz concepts and help the offense out in film study. Additionally, Flacco practiced against that same defense for an entire year and played against it in game action in one preseason game, so the pressure should be nothing new. Add to that the fact that Flacco has played against an equally aggressive Steelers defense five times now in his young career, and this should be old-hat to Flacco.

I'm not saying that the Ravens offense will necessarily have its way with the Jets defense -- but there's enough film and enough ability on the field to make a seemingly-impossible task, possible.

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

As someone else mentioned in an earlier post its not just Rays stats that prompt a success or failure label. Last season Rays worst game as far as stats are concerned was against the Browns in week 3. He gained 48 yards rushing and 27 yards recieving. As we all know we killed the Browns that day 34-3. As long as we win the game I could care less about the stats. He just might be the perfect decoy and the teams success could come from someone else or hopefully from a multitude of players. As far as Ray is concerned though, I would gladly take 75 combined yards from him even though I think he will do much better than that.

[H8R]

I personally think the Jets will be had. Our defense has a great way of making young QB's looks like JV signal callers. The Jets are ONLY effective when they can run the ball, I don't really see them being able to beat us in that fashion. No Faneca ( at least for this game) maybe no Mangold... That's good news for the Ravens


Ray Rice is a dynamic player, jusr his presence makes teams uneasy. He is our Westbrook but with the potential to be better.

[Twoo]

I don't think our running game will be all Rice so much as it will be Rice/McG/McC. The key to beating them on the ground will be fresh running backs pounding them. Rice to the outside, McG slashing for yards and McC pounding it down the middle. Sets up the playaction pass to hit Boldin across the middle, Mason on comeback routes and Stallworth on deep slants.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='H8R' date='24 May 2010 - 07:44 AM' timestamp='1274701492' post='413686']
Ray Rice is a dynamic player, jusr his presence makes teams uneasy. He is our Westbrook but with the potential to be better.
[/quote]
Give him another three or four years and he could conceivably be our Barry Sanders; the premature comparisons are already being made, but who knows...maybe they'll pan out? (Hopefully minus the losing seasons and early retirement, of course...lol)

[H8R]

I sure hope so! I'd settle for Jamal Lewis Light!

[gilgamesh]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='24 May 2010 - 11:15 AM' timestamp='1274717712' post='413733']
Give him another three or four years and he could conceivably be our Barry Sanders; the premature comparisons are already being made, but who knows...maybe they'll pan out? (Hopefully minus the losing seasons and early retirement, of course...lol)
[/quote]
I've heard more Emmit Smith comparisons in his running style. I'll take either, but I want Smith's rings.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='ellicottraven' date='23 May 2010 - 05:17 PM' timestamp='1274656662' post='413497']
It really depends on whether Kris Jenkins' play... I don't know if any of you watched his interview on NFL Total Access the other day, but he is a beast! Should he drop his weight down he will be hard to run against. However, Ray Rice is a slippery beast himself - so we will have to wait and see how it goes... I am afraid of the match up problems the Jets may create for us. I will tell you this much, if we win this one, we are going all the way! Rex Ryan knows our personnel all too well and he scares me - the fat SOB!
[/quote]
Jenkins has always been stout against the run...the interview brought nothing new to the table other than hes losing weight. Birk/Yanda/Grubbs, handle Hampton twice last year, and Wilfork twice last year. And they HANDLED Wilfork in the playoffs, ill go on a limb to say Wilfork is a better NT than Jenkins.

Just all comes down to who executes better, when teams are this evenly matched.

[FerrariFan87]

Just run to Cromartie's side and make him tackle Rice.... or try to at least