Cory Ross?

[SupaBwandin]

At the end of the 2007 season, he got a shot at some carries and he beasted all over the Steelers. We repay him by letting him go. If im not mistaken, I think he lead the UFL in rushing yards last year. Just wish we wouldve gave him more shots.

Thoughts?

[Ed_Reed20]

Remember, he was running against a Steelers team that had already secured a spot in the play-offs and was fielding their 'B' team for the most part. Even legendary David Pittman had 2 interceptions that game.

Ross had no future with this team so releasing him wasn't a big deal.

[SupaBwandin]

I wouldnt mind having David Pittman back either. I think hes a Texan now or something

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='SupaBwandin' date='14 May 2010 - 04:49 PM' timestamp='1273870180' post='410016']
I wouldnt mind having David Pittman back either. I think hes a Texan now or something
[/quote]

Ironically, Pittman is actually a Steeler now. Regardless, he was colossal bust here and I'm glad he's gone.

And just as a painful reminder:

[img]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05XC3lk63o0Fy/610x.jpg[/img]

[SupaBwandin]

Well, thats just Peyton right there.

[Romo Ravens]

Missing those uniforms!

[Purple Punishment]

i thought Ross looked impressive as well but then I realized that it was the steelers 2nd team. Had it been their first team, he may have gotten a chance to come back and have a shot backing up Willis. Personally I like having Rice over Ross. Im sure Im not the only one

[AwakenTheDemon]

Being the leading rusher in the UFL isn't exactly a huge achievement. UFL defenses are nothing like NFL defenses.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='SupaBwandin' date='14 May 2010 - 05:33 PM' timestamp='1273872824' post='410032']
Well, thats just Peyton right there.
[/quote]

Not on that play. Pittman was abused all game but at one point, Gonzalez ran a double move which left Pittman touching the grass.

The guy has enough talent to bounce around different practice squads but shouldn't be in games unless its pre-season.

[Bltravens]

Pittman was total trizzash, guy had no heart and no desire to play football when he was here.

[RavensUCfan]

So we bring Cory Ross back. Who would you give up to make room on the roster? Would we take carries away from Rice and McGahee for Ross? I would not. We cannot assume that his success in the UFL will translate into the NFL.


Pittman was so bad, I forgot about him. Thanks, for reminding me.

[emcdonald0]

[quote name='RavensUCfan' date='14 May 2010 - 08:12 PM' timestamp='1273882363' post='410084']
So we bring Cory Ross back. Who would you give up to make room on the roster? Would we take carries away from Rice and McGahee for Ross? I would not. We cannot assume that his success in the UFL will translate into the NFL.


Pittman was so bad, I forgot about him. Thanks, for reminding me.
[/quote]

The only time you take the ball out of your star RB's hands is:
1. Needs a break, or
2. You're 2nd back is just as capable as he is.
3. He doesn't fit the needs for a particular situation (short yardage, goal line..)

That's a big no to Corey Ross.

[DocMartin]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='14 May 2010 - 04:56 PM' timestamp='1273870597' post='410018']
Ironically, Pittman is actually a Steeler now. Regardless, he was colossal bust here and I'm glad he's gone.

And just as a painful reminder:

[img]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05XC3lk63o0Fy/610x.jpg[/img]
[/quote]
Yep, that's more Pittman than Manning, for sure.
It' more like:
Manning 20%
Gonzalez 20%
Pittman 60% that's a majority
To say at least - I would probably prefer Frank Walker than Pittman on the field.

[edreedfromtheu]

[quote name='SupaBwandin' date='14 May 2010 - 04:16 PM' timestamp='1273868213' post='410009']
At the end of the 2007 season, he got a shot at some carries and he beasted all over the Steelers. We repay him by letting him go. If im not mistaken, I think he lead the UFL in rushing yards last year. Just wish we wouldve gave him more shots.

Thoughts?
[/quote]

I said the same thing back when it happened. What a lot of people will fail to realize is that... the offensive line is a huge strength to this team. So while not ANYONE could run for the Ravens, quite a lot of people could as long as they have any athletic talent and football knowledge.

If the Ravens kept Ross, then they would have no reason to draft a running back in the 2nd round. In the same draft the Ravens took Rice, there was a LOT of defensive backs they could have taken. They would not be worrying about corners this year(although, apparently they didn't worry about the position at all because they didn't do anything to address it). And who knows, perhaps the Ravens end up winning a few more regular season games and end up with a different playoff schedule and avoid the Colts. Or perhaps they beat the Colts.

We'll never know. And I find it hilarious people want to point out one time David Pittman got beat... when anyone can see he is much better than Chris Carr and Frank Walker. Simple fact is, he was a friend of Chris McAlister and Harbaugh just didn't want anything to remind him of McAlister because he has a personal vendetta against him.

[edreedfromtheu]

[quote name='emcdonald0' date='14 May 2010 - 08:53 PM' timestamp='1273884801' post='410090']
The only time you take the ball out of your star RB's hands is:
1. Needs a break, or
2. You're 2nd back is just as capable as he is.
3. He doesn't fit the needs for a particular situation (short yardage, goal line..)

That's a big no to Corey Ross.
[/quote]

Corey Ross is practically the same exact mold as Ray Rice. He would fit the same exact "need" if he were here instead of Rice.

And before you go crazy, I am not saying he would get the same numbers. None of us know that. But the fact is, he shows he CAN run on an NFL team. And the Ravens do have a very good offensive line. So I believe any capable running back can be plugged in kind of like Denver used to do a few years back... always producing a 1000 yard rusher from someone you've never heard of.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' date='14 May 2010 - 09:01 PM' timestamp='1273892464' post='410124']
Corey Ross is practically the same exact mold as Ray Rice. He would fit the same exact "need" if he were here instead of Rice.

And before you go crazy, I am not saying he would get the same numbers. None of us know that. But the fact is, he shows he CAN run on an NFL team. And the Ravens do have a very good offensive line. So I believe any capable running back can be plugged in kind of like Denver used to do a few years back... always producing a 1000 yard rusher from someone you've never heard of.
[/quote]
Denver in the Shanahan era could always throw the ball, you couldnt stack 8 guys in the box like we see against them and succeed. Do I wish maybe he wasnt bounced so quick, yes. But looking at our HB situation now I cant say I question the move, or that Ross would be anymore valuable than Parmele or Lawrence, who is a special teams monster.

[DocMartin]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' date='14 May 2010 - 05:38 PM' timestamp='1273873124' post='410036']
i thought Ross looked impressive as well but then I realized that it was the steelers 2nd team. Had it been their first team, he may have gotten a chance to come back and have a shot backing up Willis. Personally I like having Rice over Ross. Im sure Im not the only one
[/quote]
Agreed. I think Ross was good, had talent and skills, but then he got hurt on that "dumb" short dump-off pass over the middle by that QB No.4 (Cam's kid from San Diego - can't remember his name now).
Anyway, there is no room on this roster for Ross, we have a lot of depth at RB position now.

[berad]

I miss Dan Cody, too

There's a reason Ray Rice was taken in the second round and Cory Ross went undrafted: Rice is [b]much[/b] more talented as a football player and he has displayed that fact, without question, on the football field. Why are people complaining about the departure of Cory Ross?

[DocMartin]

[quote name='berad' date='14 May 2010 - 11:10 PM' timestamp='1273893024' post='410130']

[b]There's a reason Ray Rice was taken in the second round and Cory Ross went undrafted: Rice is much more talented [/b]as a football player and he has displayed that fact, without question, on the football field. Why are people complaining about the departure of Cory Ross?
[/quote]
Yes. And if Ross was "so good", he would get signed by another NFL team, but he didn't.

[BloodRaven]

I was wondering this too. Ross has the same build and physical skill set as Rice, hell, their names sound alike. A few years in development who knows how good he could have been?

[Mahatma_Sloth]

wish d martin could have stayed but of course he had to get busted with some weed.....

[DocMartin]

[quote name='Mahatma_Sloth' date='14 May 2010 - 11:59 PM' timestamp='1273895956' post='410159']
wish d martin could have stayed but of course he had to get busted with some weed.....
[/quote]
What??? Sorry to say, but no Weed here.
Only Purple Smoke

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='BloodRaven' date='14 May 2010 - 10:47 PM' timestamp='1273895233' post='410155']
I was wondering this too. Ross has the same build and physical skill set as Rice, hell, their names sound alike. A few years in development who knows how good he could have been?
[/quote]

Not as good a Ray Rice will be in a few years thats for sure!

[GTRavens]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' date='14 May 2010 - 09:56 PM' timestamp='1273892211' post='410122']
I said the same thing back when it happened. What a lot of people will fail to realize is that... the offensive line is a huge strength to this team. So while not ANYONE could run for the Ravens, quite a lot of people could as long as they have any athletic talent and football knowledge.

If the Ravens kept Ross, then they would have no reason to draft a running back in the 2nd round. In the same draft the Ravens took Rice, there was a LOT of defensive backs they could have taken. They would not be worrying about corners this year(although, apparently they didn't worry about the position at all because they didn't do anything to address it). And who knows, perhaps the Ravens end up winning a few more regular season games and end up with a different playoff schedule and avoid the Colts. Or perhaps they beat the Colts.

We'll never know. And I find it hilarious people want to point out one time David Pittman got beat... when anyone can see he is much better than Chris Carr and Frank Walker. Simple fact is, he was a friend of Chris McAlister and Harbaugh just didn't want anything to remind him of McAlister because he has a personal vendetta against him.
[/quote]

Yeah...you don't throw away a Pro Bowler to make Cory freaking Ross your #2 RB. We may have a great o-line, but that doesn't mean you can pencil in some bum and expect the same results. We definitely don't win a few extra games by throwing away Rice, one of our few receiving threats by the way, and hoping that our second rounder works out. Also, Pittman was not better than anyone and our team right now. He was beaten way more than once, because he sucked horribly. He didn't make the team because he sucked horribly, not because of some evil agenda. He was driven out because he was a friend of McAlister? Are you serious?

So yeah...failicious statement right there.

[Catfish81]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='14 May 2010 - 03:56 PM' timestamp='1273870597' post='410018']
Ironically, Pittman is actually a Steeler now. Regardless, he was colossal bust here and I'm glad he's gone.

And just as a painful reminder:

[img]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05XC3lk63o0Fy/610x.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

says the guy with chris carr in his pic...

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' date='15 May 2010 - 12:59 AM' timestamp='1273903194' post='410179']
Not as good a Ray Rice will be in a few years thats for sure!
[/quote]

Remember when everyone here thought Priest Holmes and Chester Taylor were just depth?

[Ravens & Cardinals Fan]

who cares the reality of it is that ross in on some ufl team and we got two probowl running backs and one hell of a monster threat in rice so imo ross is not a factor never was and never will be i dont question ozzie belief if he felt he was needed they would of kept him but they didnt same for pittman they got cut for reasons we wont know entirely but the fact is there gone rice is here to stay for many years and thats it its flacco and rices team now lets enjoy it while we can people and remember only thing we should look forward to is reality and not look back on the past

[rastaman831226]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' date='14 May 2010 - 10:56 PM' timestamp='1273892211' post='410122']
I said the same thing back when it happened. What a lot of people will fail to realize is that... the offensive line is a huge strength to this team. So while not ANYONE could run for the Ravens, quite a lot of people could as long as they have any athletic talent and football knowledge.

If the Ravens kept Ross, then they would have no reason to draft a running back in the 2nd round. In the same draft the Ravens took Rice, there was a LOT of defensive backs they could have taken. They would not be worrying about corners this year(although, apparently they didn't worry about the position at all because they didn't do anything to address it). And who knows, perhaps the Ravens end up winning a few more regular season games and end up with a different playoff schedule and avoid the Colts. Or perhaps they beat the Colts.

We'll never know. And I find it hilarious people want to point out one time David Pittman got beat... when anyone can see he is much better than Chris Carr and Frank Walker. Simple fact is, he was a friend of Chris McAlister and Harbaugh just didn't want anything to remind him of McAlister because he has a personal vendetta against him.
[/quote]


Can't quite agree with you on the 2007 offensive line. That year, Brian Billick had that O line playing out of position with Grubbs at RG, Jason Brown at LG, Yanda at RT and I believe JO was in and out if the lineup. That Cory Ross had any kind of success behind that out of tilter line is a miracle. Ross was a good short downhill runner and a crowd pleaser, however, he had stones for hands and was no threat to throw the big block. I loved watching Ross on the field but he was a luxury, a role taken up by Willis McGahee. Gotta agree with you on the Pittman comment. It's laughable how some people use one game, one play or one performance against one opponent to define a player's ability.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' date='14 May 2010 - 10:56 PM' timestamp='1273892211' post='410122']
I said the same thing back when it happened. What a lot of people will fail to realize is that... the offensive line is a huge strength to this team. So while not ANYONE could run for the Ravens, quite a lot of people could as long as they have any athletic talent and football knowledge.

If the Ravens kept Ross, then they would have no reason to draft a running back in the 2nd round. In the same draft the Ravens took Rice, there was a LOT of defensive backs they could have taken. They would not be worrying about corners this year(although, apparently they didn't worry about the position at all because they didn't do anything to address it). And who knows, perhaps the Ravens end up winning a few more regular season games and end up with a different playoff schedule and avoid the Colts. Or perhaps they beat the Colts.

[b]We'll never know. And I find it hilarious people want to point out one time David Pittman got beat... when anyone can see he is much better than Chris Carr and Frank Walker. Simple fact is, he was a friend of Chris McAlister and Harbaugh just didn't want anything to remind him of McAlister because he has a personal vendetta against him.[/b]
[/quote]

Have any proof to back up these claims?

[quote name='rastaman831226' date='16 May 2010 - 12:17 PM' timestamp='1274026622' post='410477']
Can't quite agree with you on the 2007 offensive line. That year, Brian Billick had that O line playing out of position with Grubbs at RG, Jason Brown at LG, Yanda at RT and I believe JO was in and out if the lineup. That Cory Ross had any kind of success behind that out of tilter line is a miracle. Ross was a good short downhill runner and a crowd pleaser, however, he had stones for hands and was no threat to throw the big block. I loved watching Ross on the field but he was a luxury, a role taken up by Willis McGahee. Gotta agree with you on the Pittman comment. [b]It's laughable how some people use one game, one play or one performance against one opponent to define a player's ability.[/b]
[/quote]

I could bring up several games where Pittman saw the field and embarrassed himself. His performance against the Colts stands out though, for obvious reason.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Catfish81' date='15 May 2010 - 03:17 AM' timestamp='1273907840' post='410194']
says the guy with chris carr in his pic...
[/quote]

Are we really calling each other out on their avatars?

You and others are entitled to your opinions on Carr but there's a reason he's bounced around NFL teams while Pittman has bounced around practice squads.

P.S. I'm not a Carr fan; I just happen to like the picture.