Starting Qb Next Year?

[MDmid14]

haha it was a good analogy...i guess. I can't see McNair making an impact anymore. His fumbles, interceptions, and lack of mobility are a plaque hes not going to shake. I'd give the ball to Troy.

[ReED jucate]

i personally believe smith is a mix between Brees, Vick(not the dog killer), and McNabb.

I would actually compare Troy with McNair (we are talking career not this season) , they have the same calm collected focus, are decisive, can scramble and have a great arm and release. Vick is nothing more than a glorified RB and shouldn't be on that list. Troy is just like McNair but 2" shorter which thankfully in the NFL players can easily compensate for being short (Jones-Drew).

[Raven07]

with the right pieces in place and everyone on the same page as the rest of the team....this team can go places and win big when it counts, and it all depends/comes down to how the players respond to different situations and what not

[CARavensFan]

With the possiblity of an entirely new coaching staff coming and the new system that will come with it I think it will bring Boller and Smith to a level playing field, before Boller had the edge because of his familirity with the system they were using. I'm still reserving judgement on McNair until I see haw he comes back from his surgery, but I think he still has roel to play even as a back-up to teach the younger QBs on the roster, just look at the impact he had on Boller when he came in and he could teach Troy even more 'cause he ahs more of the same skills that McNair had himself in his younger years.

[#1 D]

I would actually compare Troy with McNair (we are talking career not this season) , they have the same calm collected focus, are decisive, can scramble and have a great arm and release. Vick is nothing more than a glorified RB and shouldn't be on that list. Troy is just like McNair but 2" shorter which thankfully in the NFL players can easily compensate for being short (Jones-Drew).

Well, I would have to disagree with you on that, for NFL players compensate for being short. Sure, troy smith being shorter can mean he can be faster becasue he's more to the ground, and he wont be all lanky when he runs. But he's a quarterback. a quarterback cant always scramble, i mean a quarterback has a pocket for a reason. Him being a bit short cant be an advantage, just because all those OL's are taller than him, which would mean a lot of deflected passes. And another thing, you can compare steve mcnair to troy smith, but personally i would compare him to a person less famous, kordell stewart. kordell was 6 feet, troy is 6 feet. kordell can run, troy can run. just a thought

[Raven07]

and some prime example's of players of whom make up for their lack of "height"...would have to be players like Doug Flutie, and Drew Brees.....and a bunch other's in which i cant remember off the top of my head at the current moment.

[neepo13]

Some draft prognosticators have us drafting #8 for a QB -- there are a number of good one's out there...I wouldn't be unhappy to see us draft one and see a competition for the starting job at QB...

I think McNair is effectively done at QB, he's just not able to deiver a strike down the field anymore...but then none of us knows all the background, behind the scenes info...but Ozzie is the best and will know what to do...

Competition makes everybody step up their game and that cant hurt us.

[neepo13]

Come on #9! I gotta get one more year out of my jersey.

If McNair stays, we may not be able to bring back Suggs and sign all our rookies. Still want #9 to come back?

[neepo13]

Look at Favre. Everyone said he was too old and needed to hang it up finally.

Why does everyone always say that? Over the last 10 years how many games has Favre missed due to injury? Now compare that to McNair. Favre has not taken the punishment that McNair has. After a while those surgery's start wear your body down very fast and thats what is happening to McNair. Favre hasnt had to go through that.

[neepo13]

I think we have to draft defense with the 1st and 2nd pick in the draft, the Ravens will always be a defensive team and we have to add some young guys to our defense. We picked up Troy in the 5th round last year and he looked pretty good. Maybe we can pick up a Flacco or Ainge later in the draft to have them compete in training camp. JMHO.

Thats the problem. We give our defense so much attention that we abandon the offense and then get angry when our defense plays their hearts out and are held back by our offense. We need help on offensive line more then anything because if they suck we are not going anywhere but home in December.

[neepo13]

haha it was a good analogy...i guess. I can't see McNair making an impact anymore. His fumbles, interceptions, and lack of mobility are a plaque hes not going to shake. I'd give the ball to Troy.

He has turned into a pocket passer, the only problem is we dont have a pass protecting o line. With our line you have to be able to move around and buy time.

[Dr Devo]

I think with a new coach McNair will start. If he doesn't look good over the first 5 or 6 games I think he might get benched in favor of Smith.

[RavenFanatic_1693]

I Personally Think we should start Smith, if he odes bad, then we can put in someone else for the time being. But I think during this off-season, Smith will be improved and better than ever,

I hate Smith We should take Brohm or flacco in the draft

[Jamal]

Troy Smith, and no one else would make sense to me......

[poespurple]

I have to cast my vote for Troy Smith. I kept saying to my in the middle of last season that Billick should take his chances on Smith. Everyone says he's too small, well people said the same about Emmitt and look what happened there. I think of it simply this way: even if he was 6"3", he's not going to be able to see over the many 6'5" plus linebackers out there. I think Troy has a lot of spark and he is able to scramble with the best of them. I truly feel it would foolish to overlook his talents and his incredibly mature, professional attitude.

[Bullrush]

Troy Smith.

[smashmouth]

Air McNair!

[Ravens_Pwn12]

Troy smith than a Rookie Draft pick

[T-Sizzle55]

Andre Woodson of Kentucky I think is a better bet in the draft, than Brohm, because from what I hear he can scramble, has prototypical NFL QB size, great instincts and the stats to go with them.

Matt Ryan will likely be gone, and Brian Brohm had a torn ACL, and other injuries that I have heard of (for a young guy this does not bode well for the future!!!).

Number 3 on the college depth chart is, again, Andre Woodson (followed by Colt Brennan [who had a bad Sugar Bowl, but still has raw talent], John David Booty, etc.)

I don't agree with your analysis of Andre Woodson. I thought he would be great just because he was putting up insane numbers and a lot of TDs with very few INT's. He's got talent no doubt, but he doesn't run well and I don't think he is better than Brian Brohm. Every year he scrambles for less yards, 2004 was -27 yrds, and 2007 was -193 yrds averaging -2.8 yrds per game, -490 yrds. Total for his carreer and only 5 rushing TDs. Brohm was no bargain rushing, but had 44 positive yards in his carreer and 9 rushing TD's. Brian Brohm has a much higher passer rating. (Andre Woodson's is 132.0, Brian Brohm's is 158.0). Brohm's Completed pass percentage was higher (Woodson's 61.3% Brohm's 66.2%). Here is the most important part that hurt Woodson in my book, he holds on to the ball way too long. You can watch his game footage. My proof is also that he was sacked 118 times in his carreer and 38 times his senior year, the 5th most sacked QB last year in college football. Brohm was sacked 68 total times, only 24 times his senior year, which is a little better than average (Brohm averaged 15 sacks a year before that). If you watch Brohm in film he has a very quick release. He snaps the ball and throws it right away and he still averaged over 9 yrds a pass. I like Andre a lot and I hope he does well in the NFL as long as it doesn't hurt the Ravens in the process (especially if we draft him! lol), but we are in a division with good pass rushers and we need to get rid of the ball in a hurry. With our solid defense we need a accurate passer that can put together a long drive to give our Defense rest, not turn the ball over and score. I think Brohm can do exactly that.

PS: His best season was right after his surgery going 12-1 (6-1 in Big East). Year after he had almost 1,000 more yards and almost twice as many TD's. So a Torn ACL doesn't mean he can't play it just might mean we can pick him up in the 2nd round. McGahee had the worst televised injury recorded probably in all of sports and look at him now!

[T-Sizzle55]

I'VE GOT IT! I've solved the QB controversy! It's Illegal, Immoral, the government wont stand for it, BUT it's bound to work if we all keep it a secret and it will ABSOLUTELY guarantee us a dynasty and we will make football history!!

CLONE JOHNNY UNITAS!!!!! He's ready for a comeback and it's not a moment too late! Please come back Johnny U and put us back on top!!

I'm only playin but still it's somethink to think about!

Science + Football = Johnny U in Superbowl XLIII!

[Bazard]

My stance on it is Steve won't make it through a season. Troy need to learn. So Kyle is my pick, he has a chance to flourish in Cam Camerons system he has a one year contract worth 3 mil let him earn it.

[neepo13]

Well, looks like Troy wins. At least in this thread he does. He has the majority vote by a long shot.

[Raven07]

yea it looks as though Troy has won the Quarterback Battle of the Baltimore Raven Forums...but i think the war has yet to be won....and the Ravens are seemingly leaning more torwards having McNair has the starting quarterback from what i have read about it all. and like i said before...any quarterback can look great with a Good line. there's been examples of that.... time and time again.

[T-Sizzle55]

My stance on it is Steve won't make it through a season. Troy need to learn. So Kyle is my pick, he has a chance to flourish in Cam Camerons system he has a one year contract worth 3 mil let him earn it.

This is Kyle's last year if he does a bad job and is not let go, I swear I will take him out of Baltimore myself! I like you Kyle, but how much time can we give you to let you know you have great talent and ability?! After this season it's put up or shut up and one more year is too much in ths league to play around! The Boller experiment is soon to be over!

[smashmouth]

This is Kyle's last year if he does a bad job and is not let go, I swear I will take him out of Baltimore myself! I like you Kyle, but how much time can we give you to let you know you have great talent and ability?! After this season it's put up or shut up and one more year is too much in ths league to play around! The Boller experiment is soon to be over!

I agree, But I think Boller can really be consistant outside of Billick's system, I mean what QB really ever did do well in it? Trent Dilfer helped us win a Superbowl but The Offense was still up and down that year, McNair Put up solid numbers in 06 but i still think He and the offense was held back a bit in Billicks system. We could have beat the colts in the playoffs if our Offensive style was better IMO, And i doubt any other team could knock us off besides the Colts.

But I think if we dont draft a QB and Boller is still on the roster He probally wont get a chance to come back after his contract unless He becomes the starter and puts up big numbers.If we happen to draft a QB I think Boller will be traded or cut, to make a QB spot, I cant see us cutting McNair or defiently not Troy Smith so Boller makes the expendable QB.

[Raven07]

no doubt that there was a few flaws in Billicks way of thinking and the way the offense was ran...enter Harbaugh. How this gives our offense a new sense on life and a new positive outlook on the season...thus the entire league. because noone knows what our offense will actually be like...so the speculation is there "what if what if what if" but i strongly feel as though Harbaugh can turn this team around, especially with the Excellent coaching staff he essembled recently....

[bmorefan80]

I was thinking McNair would be, but they haven't touched his contract that I know of. Correct me if I'm wrong, I've been busy in RL atm than on the forums. I'm starting to see McNair might be one of the June 1st cuts now.

[smashmouth]

I was thinking McNair would be, but they haven't touched his contract that I know of. Correct me if I'm wrong, I've been busy in RL atm than on the forums. I'm starting to see McNair might be one of the June 1st cuts now.

Its doubtful, as of right now Mcnair is the starter of the Baltimore Ravens, Its his job to lose. So if Troy Smith or Kyle Boller or maybe a draft pick comes in and Plays really well in training camp then they can de trown him, but dont get your hopes up. I have high hopes for Smith and i think Boller is more then capable of becoming a very good QB, I Just think Boller and Smith need another year to devolop with a good OC(Cam Camoron)

[#1RavenFan]

Its doubtful, as of right now Mcnair is the starter of the Baltimore Ravens, Its his job to lose. So if Troy Smith or Kyle Boller or maybe a draft pick comes in and Plays really well in training camp then they can de trown him, but dont get your hopes up. I have high hopes for Smith and i think Boller is more then capable of becoming a very good QB, I Just think Boller and Smith need another year to devolop with a good OC(Cam Camoron)

hes not on the baltimore ravens depth chart...lol....i voted for troy altough i wouldnt mind seeing McNair play out his last years if he dosent fumble the ball

[Raven07]

i still say that Steve McNair will be our starting Quarterback at season start. i believe Steve still has alot to prove and alot left to show and give......last season's failure was COMPLETE bust on all phases of offense and what not....and our Offensive line was letting Defenders into the backfield almost every play...thus is why McNair's performance suffered and he became irratic. because he was having to do/perform virtually everything on his own accord, not having that little cushion to fall back on with Good Blocking upfront can severly effect a teams chances of getting production....thus is what we all saw...now with everyone healthy....i wouldnt be at all suprised to see McNair and the Offense coming out of the gate firing. and firing with Power.