Is He High, Or A Genius?

[JonM229]

Here's the link to an article by Mike Preston looking into possibly getting Marvin Lewis as our Head Coach:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...0,234842.column

Your thoughts?

[smitty]

i could be down with marvin lewis coming to baltimore... again. there are definitely people on the team that will play hard for him. ray and marvin won a super bowl together. im sure they'd love to do it again. i don't know how the office feels giving up some draft picks though since that is what we would have to do.

[JonM229]

I wouldn't mind seeing him back in Baltimore, especially after starting to watch those Ravens 2000 DVDs.

[theFRANCHISE]

...NO.

Flat-out, NO.

I'm tired of coordinators being labeled "geniuses" for their prior success on one side of the ball, and then ironically having limited success with that side when becoming a head coach.

Marvin Lewis, like Brian Billick on offense, had only ONE season where his OVERALL defense was ranked in the top-10. That was also the best season of his stint in Cincinnati, just like that was Billick's best season in his stint in Baltimore.

However, I refuse to completely knock Billick for his tenure because his teams were still able to field winning records with different coordinators and players shuffling.

Marvin Lewis could not do that. Moreover, he could not do it CONSISTENTLY.

There is nothing about Marvin Lewis as a head coach that screams to me, "LEADER." Yes, he may be more subdued, maybe like Tony Dungy but a little more yelling, but he still seems to be too passive. That's why he had discipline issues.

Granted, Baltimore's roster is more disciplined than that, but who's to say the younger guys will still listen to him just 'cause the older guys tell them to? THEY weren't around for his stint in Baltimore.

[MDmid14]

If it came down to Marvin or Rex...I would go with Rex. Marvin could not develop a top teir offense into a super bowl contender. He would be lost in Baltimore. At least Rex knows the guys on the offense and they might be more willing to listen to him. I'm still a Garrett fan.

[Raven07]

i think it was merely the thought that people thinking "hey!.....the Bengals seem to dis-like Marvin with passion as of right now and We (the Ravens) are looking for a Head Coach, and seeing how he has experience with this team and the way its run......" and so on......but as Ozzie and Steve said "they're alot of rumors flying around the league right now about whom will be our next head coach.....some are dead on and others are far from the truth"....we'll just wait and see what actually happens

[LongLiveBillick]

Mike Preston wrote an interesting article in The Sun today about the possibility of bringing back Marvin Lewis as the head coach of the Ravens. We all know that Lewis was one of the chief architects in the Ravens success in 2000, but his head coaching career has been far from successful. In fact I still think its funny that he still has a job in Cinci.

I just don't think he is cut out to be a head coach, especially here.

[dem410birds#1]

yea true but he is a d-fenes minded coach so him and rex may be good

[JonM229]

Either Lewis or Rex would be Head Coach, so I doubt we could get both.

[LongLiveBillick]

I think its a bad idea. Lewis has been an awful coach in Cinci.

[#1 D]

Well, from seeing the lack of discipline from his team, considering all the arrests, stereotype or not he's just not the guy we want as of now.

[JonM229]

Especially since we're a team built on star-power where every individual wants a to be in the spotlight.

[#1 D]

Especially since we're a team built on star-power where every individual wants a to be in the spotlight.

Yeah, it could get out of hand easily. I mean just look at the flying flags incident vs the pats, but i personally thought it was hilarious after i cried over the loss

[JonM229]

Yeah, it could get out of hand easily. I mean just look at the flying flags incident vs the pats, but i personally thought it was hilarious after i cried over the loss

Good to see I'm not the only one who did the exact same thing.

[72Marshall]

...NO.

Flat-out, NO.

I'm tired of coordinators being labeled "geniuses" for their prior success on one side of the ball, and then ironically having limited success with that side when becoming a head coach.

Marvin Lewis, like Brian Billick on offense, had only ONE season where his OVERALL defense was ranked in the top-10. That was also the best season of his stint in Cincinnati, just like that was Billick's best season in his stint in Baltimore.

However, I refuse to completely knock Billick for his tenure because his teams were still able to field winning records with different coordinators and players shuffling.

Marvin Lewis could not do that. Moreover, he could not do it CONSISTENTLY.

There is nothing about Marvin Lewis as a head coach that screams to me, "LEADER." Yes, he may be more subdued, maybe like Tony Dungy but a little more yelling, but he still seems to be too passive. That's why he had discipline issues.

Granted, Baltimore's roster is more disciplined than that, but who's to say the younger guys will still listen to him just 'cause the older guys tell them to? THEY weren't around for his stint in Baltimore.

Ditto

[72Marshall]

Well, from seeing the lack of discipline from his team, considering all the arrests, stereotype or not he's just not the guy we want as of now.

Funny how the Ravens had off the field problems while he was here and now they have off the field problems in cincy even though they didn't before he got there...interesting

[tweety]

Funny how the Ravens had off the field problems while he was here and now they have off the field problems in cincy even though they didn't before he got there...interesting

Don't try it, no relation....let's sign Billick, lol. I don't think it was a good idea to release the Billicks this year. We have too many other questions without looking for a coach, dumb decision. I don't know who is available and what happens happens.

[theFRANCHISE]

Funny how the Ravens had off the field problems while he was here and now they have off the field problems in cincy even though they didn't before he got there...interesting

That is VERY interesting, indeed...

Could Marvin Lewis, perhaps, be too much of a players' coach?

I'm not saying this team needs a disciplinarian of a head coach. Far from it, actually, as that "my way or the highway" approach doesn't cut it in the NFL much these days.

Although I'm all for having more discipline, the coaches still need to be able to adjust to the players, as these GROWN MEN don't HAVE TO listen like the STUDENT-ATHLETES in college do. There has to be a middle ground in the overall culture that's developed in the locker room between players and coaches, and the head coach has to serve as mediator, among other administrative roles.

I believe that there's a place in the NFL for a players' coach, but only to a certain extent. At the end of the day, there has to be a level of respect that helps draw the line, and frankly, I don't see Marvin Lewis as Baltimore's head coach matching his prior success as a coordinator.

That's not to take away from his ability to produce an excellent game plan back in the day. I do believe that he still has some gas in the tank and can come up with a solid defensive scheme. But frankly, scheme or no scheme, if there's no respect, then that makes it harder to get the players to believe in the system. And if they don't believe in the system, how can you expect them to play to their full potential, dollar signs or not?

[PuRock]

Been there, done that. No Marvin.

Great defense coordinator with us (Excellent defensive players). Has done NOTHING as a head coach so far. Biscotti is looking for the "best coach" available. And that is not Marvin Lewis at this point in his career.

[Raven07]

but noone actually knows 100 percent for sure....i mean a so call "bad" coach COULD have bad years with one team then sign with another and become this genius and is winning and what not.....time will tell

[smashmouth82]

just another rumor!!!

[Raven07]

yep.....i think everything is "just a rumor" until its proven otherwise and/or backed with Support or solid evidence that something that is rumored..is indeed occuring/happening

[neepo13]

Here's the link to an article by Mike Preston looking into possibly getting Marvin Lewis as our Head Coach:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...0,234842.column

Your thoughts?

I am more concerned about what it would cost us to get him here. We have needs and the Bengals are going to ask for the house and the farm in exchange for him.

[Raven07]

i think we are better off with a different coach and a new direction, i mean because Marvin is just seemingly going downhill in Cinci and everyone wants his head for it....and i believe that there are more capable coaches out there in which can get the job done, along with maintaining a Stable Team environment, and unity as a whole.

[neepo13]

i think we are better off with a different coach and a new direction, i mean because Marvin is just seemingly going downhill in Cinci and everyone wants his head for it....and i believe that there are more capable coaches out there in which can get the job done, along with maintaining a Stable Team environment, and unity as a whole.

I dont know. I dont think all the problems that Cinci has had is Marvin faults. Everybody wants to jump on because the high expectations are not being met but they refuse to go back 6 or 7 years before Marvin got there. Back then you could say the Bengals have no shot in hell and no one would debate you on that. Now since Lewis has been there you cant do that anymore. He turned that team around and he deserves credit for it. They have hit a rough patch but I think that has more to do with whoever plays the GM role, then it does with coaching because they constantly bring in guys that have bad attitudes and are not professional and they dont have a good eye for defensive talent.

[austrianravensfan]

i don't think we should trade any draft picks for HC.

we some good players more importantly.

[Mazda]

Im not beleiving one thign the Sun writes anymore