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Entire Staff Dismissed?

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The Ray Lewis leaving this team rumors are really getting hot now. I for one would not want Ray to leave. I can't imagine how the defense would do without him. Who would fire up the defense? Theres no one in the league who does it better.

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as i and everyone feel the exact same way...seeing Ray in another teams uniform..would be completely out of character for him or this team because of how much he is a Leader for this team, not just on Defense, the WHOLE team.

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Suggs is the only one that has his contract ending. So he may leave, but Ray will not and Bart will not.

After what happened Monday I don't care if a player signed Friday afternoon I won't believe that they will be a Raven until I see them on the field. They can't believe that it was all Billick, I'm sure there's a list of players that will be considered disposable, many of them probably know who they are. Samari Rolle had no comment when asked about Billicks firing, he may not have wanted to say anything that would be taken out of context, but I would believe he's one player that's pretty sure he won't return.

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After what happened Monday I don't care if a player signed Friday afternoon I won't believe that they will be a Raven until I see them on the field. They can't believe that it was all Billick, I'm sure there's a list of players that will be considered disposable, many of them probably know who they are. Samari Rolle had no comment when asked about Billicks firing, he may not have wanted to say anything that would be taken out of context, but I would believe he's one player that's pretty sure he won't return.

The sad thing about Samari Rolle is, a lot of the criticism he shouldered for his performance in 2006 was voluntarily taken on by Rolle himself, even though the big plays that were given up were not his fault half the time. Even when Ed Reed and others tried to deservedly take on some of that criticism themselves, Rolle still stepped up and owned up to those mistakes regardless.

He has great character, and when he was in the lineup this year, he played significantly well. It's sad that he suffered a season-ending injury shortly after returning from his bout with epilepsy while warming up, and if he is released, he may never suit up in purple-and-black ever again.

It's things like this that make me refuse to believe that overhauling the roster will do any good. Depleting the coaching staff was already enough of a change, but to do anything drastic like release proven STARTERS might prove to be catastrophic later. So let's hope that Billick's replacement doesn't jump the gun on any decisions...

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In regards to the coaching staff:

Everybody but Rex can go IMO.

We need him in some capacity.

Current post, HC, *whatever*

Other than Rex...

Seriously, Everybody, C-Ya.

As far as the players, business is business.

- Suggs was mediocre at best this year and still could go for big $'s or considerable draft picks

- Ray (Lewis) has been hurting, yet remains a leader with market value, but Greisen has yet to prove himself.

(and though Bart Scott pulls some weight his actions-to-words ratio could be better balanced)

- JO's gone. He was gone before the season started - what a waste? Big toe my a@@... someone that size will likely never heal from that injury under modern medical science - any expert in the field would validate that statement, as many already have.

- Will Heap ever be healthy again? (another player with excellent market value). We do have two other very good TE's - do we need "HEEEEAAAAP"? if he just warms the bench?

- Mike Flynn is done, that can't be a good thing for the team, Troy, etc... O-line dynamics take time to mature.

I really have not seen (Chris) Chester enough to have an opinion, but these are big shoes to fill, literally.

...BTW - our CB's have been done for a while

I have more faith in Pittman then Ivy or Martin at this time.

I think most of our 'staff' has already been "dismissed"!

~Marcus Sr.

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Pfft no one in there right minds get rid of franchise players(heap,mcalister,Lewis and ogden) and defiently not a new coach will do that, the new HC is gonna have to demand and earn respect from both players,fans and the office and getting rid of players who was drafted and did so much for B-more will probally wanna retire here. the only way these guys will go is if they demand a trade or retire.

As for Rex Ryan being let go, they probally wanna leave it up to the new HC with what staff to bring back, not only that i would think other teams would also be interested in him for HC. If he dosent get B-more's HC and another team offers him a HC job..do you think he would take it or come back as a DC? Bottom line is all coaches usally want the chance to be head coach.

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Too Bad our Owner doesn't have a clue. I wonder if Steven had a "Carefrontation" with BB before he fired him. I thought Steven was for helping to make people better. Not sure who we will get next. Available coaches are thin..... :angry:

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this is NOT my opinion, just a question. i personally would try to lure bill cowher out of "vacation", but with the recent report that the lions were going to fire mike martz as a scape goat, what would ya'll think about a high powered offensive coach coming to b-more? maybe he can bring roy williams with him?!

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this is NOT my opinion, just a question. i personally would try to lure bill cowher out of "vacation", but with the recent report that the lions were going to fire mike martz as a scape goat, what would ya'll think about a high powered offensive coach coming to b-more? maybe he can bring roy williams with him?!

I personally wouldn't want Martz, He had a lot of talent in St. Louie which helped him with the success he had, but there's a reason why he didn't get another HC job. I know he had health problems but I don't think that's why he's back to being a coordinator.

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Pfft no one in there right minds get rid of franchise players

So I guess the Tennessee Titans weren't in their right minds to get rid of fan-favorite talent such as Derrick Mason, Andre Dyson, and Samari Rolle among others as cap casualties, and eventually Steve McNair? And keep in mind, at the time of their release (and then some), those players were still able to perform well.

The team regressed from 5-11 before those cuts, to a franchise-worst 4-12, before managing to eke out an 8-8 record with a bit of luck (and Vince Young), and barely got in the playoffs this season with a 10-6 record.

If anything, should the new coach follow the Titans' model, things can only get worse before they can get better. And it won't come easy.

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this has to be without question the single stupidest thing done by the Ravens organization since they arrived in Baltimore.

This is by far a bigger FUBAR than the Elvis Grbac move was.

I have zero faith in the front office now.

We are in for massive rebuilding, if we're lucky the team will only sux for a couple of years. If we're not, well.... this could make the last decade of Detroit Lions football look good.

I'll be surprised if we have a playoff spot again in the next 5 years.

Wow firing the whole staff was so stupid i'm beside myself, I don't think Irsay was that incompetent, actually he probably was.

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this has to be without question the single stupidest thing done by the Ravens organization since they arrived in Baltimore.

This is by far a bigger FUBAR than the Elvis Grbac move was.

I have zero faith in the front office now.

We are in for massive rebuilding, if we're lucky the team will only sux for a couple of years. If we're not, well.... this could make the last decade of Detroit Lions football look good.

I'll be surprised if we have a playoff spot again in the next 5 years.

Wow firing the whole staff was so stupid i'm beside myself, I don't think Irsay was that incompetent, actually he probably waS

you have to understand that these things are for the best really, the only way you can keep supporting staff on board is if you promote a coordinator to head coach. Most HC's like to go out and select their own staff. the only coordinator worth anything was rex ryan anyway and i questioned his ability to adapt to new situations anyway. trust the front office its for the best.

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you have to understand that these things are for the best really, the only way you can keep supporting staff on board is if you promote a coordinator to head coach. Most HC's like to go out and select their own staff. the only coordinator worth anything was rex ryan anyway and i questioned his ability to adapt to new situations anyway. trust the front office its for the best.

I see your point, i hadn't considered that.

The problem i have is that i don't trust the front office. I don't know this owner well, none of us do and i don't trust him at all.

The GM has a good track record in most areas, Newsome can't identify a quaterback with talent but other than that he's been great, i hope he has a loud voice in deciding the new coach.

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I see your point, i hadn't considered that.

The problem i have is that i don't trust the front office. I don't know this owner well, none of us do and i don't trust him at all.

The GM has a good track record in most areas, Newsome can't identify a quaterback with talent but other than that he's been great, i hope he has a loud voice in deciding the new coach.

LOL! yeah thats true, newsome doesnt have a good track record for spotting QBs perhaps the next head coach will have more insight into what we should look for maybe he'll demand total player control like a parcells or shottenhiemer. This new owner is more proactive i can see that. last year when billick lost two in a row they gave in a warning to shape up, and now when things went down the toilet they held him responsible and so they should have i like this new ownership they wanna win today not in 10 years!!

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LOL! yeah thats true, newsome doesnt have a good track record for spotting QBs perhaps the next head coach will have more insight into what we should look for maybe he'll demand total player control like a parcells or shottenhiemer. This new owner is more proactive i can see that. last year when billick lost two in a row they gave in a warning to shape up, and now when things went down the toilet they held him responsible and so they should have i like this new ownership they wanna win today not in 10 years!!

Dan Snyder wanted to win today when he bought the Redskins but it didn't work out. If wanting to win today is all it took there wouldn't be a losing team anywhere, I have the feeling the losing is just begining around here.

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I hadn't heard about the entire staff being dismissed. I TOTALLY agree and am greatly relieved that Brian Billick is FINALLY gone. However, I do want Rex Ryan to stay as DC at minimum, perhaps Head Coach.

We're due for a rebuild, but you can thank the aforementioned Brian Billick for that. What other coach in the entire NFL has literally wasted a pro-bowl caliber defense for SIX seasons? Seriously, did anyone see ANYTHING different in our vanilla offense during that entire time? Billick should have been sent packing 3 years ago, when it became clear he had no feel for running a football team from the sidelines.

The way I see it, under a new coach and some time to rebuild and gel new players into the system, we're looking at something like this:

2008: 6-10

2009: 8-8

2010: 11-5 (playoffs)

2011: 12-4 (playoffs)

Naturally, alot depends on what our division rivals do, but playoff appearances within 3 years are not too far of a stretch...maybe a trip to the Big Dance?

GO RAVENS!!!!

MARTY SCHOTTENHEIMER, HEAD COACH, BALTIMORE RAVENS

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i think that if we can get the right coaches and staff in here and work with the players and get them all on the same page as everyone else..and get them to work as a team and further the overall development for the team (along with the Young Rookies of today and Tomorrow)...i feel that we can make some kind of impact on how our future will be delt....i mean, we could just get it going right off the bat and do very well next season OR it may take a few years to get everything in proper working order....only time will tell for sure though as we have no say in either.

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So I guess the Tennessee Titans weren't in their right minds to get rid of fan-favorite talent such as Derrick Mason, Andre Dyson, and Samari Rolle among others as cap casualties, and eventually Steve McNair? And keep in mind, at the time of their release (and then some), those players were still able to perform well.

The team regressed from 5-11 before those cuts, to a franchise-worst 4-12, before managing to eke out an 8-8 record with a bit of luck (and Vince Young), and barely got in the playoffs this season with a 10-6 record.

If anything, should the new coach follow the Titans' model, things can only get worse before they can get better. And it won't come easy.

This is why the titans diddnt sell out on all there home games, cap problems comes from the front office not being able to look ahead and manage balance between Vets and younger talent.

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I really do think Rex Ryan will end up as a HC elsewhere if we don't take him as the HC. And personally, I don't really think he would be a great HC OVER other possibilities. Don't get me wrong, he will most likely be a good HC, I am just not sure if he will be better then other potential candidates. And our offensive coordinator is already gone which I'm sure most of you know.

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I really do think Rex Ryan will end up as a HC elsewhere if we don't take him as the HC. And personally, I don't really think he would be a great HC OVER other possibilities. Don't get me wrong, he will most likely be a good HC, I am just not sure if he will be better then other potential candidates. And our offensive coordinator is already gone which I'm sure most of you know.

I like Rex Ryan and hope that we can still keep him as a DC.

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im watching the Ravens Press Conference about the firing of Billick and the new coach and the options we may go with and Ozzie said "we will give every possible look at each possible potential coaching prospect...and will select the one guy in which they all feel will make a immediate and well as long term positive effect.

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im watching the Ravens Press Conference about the firing of Billick and the new coach and the options we may go with and Ozzie said "we will give every possible look at each possible potential coaching prospect...and will select the one guy in which they all feel will make a immediate and well as long term positive effect.

In Ozzie we trust.

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