Ravens Brass Reacts to OT Rule Change

[The Flock]

Ravens Brass Reacts to OT Rule Change

[QUOTE]Ravens Owner Steve Bisciotti and General Manager Ozzie Newsome confirmed Tuesday that they voted against the playoffs overtime rule change.

But since Bisciotti was out-voted by a 28-4 margin at Tuesday’s owners meetings in Orlando, all three are preparing for the modification.

“Sometimes change is good and we’ll adjust to it,” Head Coach John Harbaugh said. “We’ll start studying the strategies and come up with plans for the new rule. If we get to the playoffs and we get to overtime we’ll do whatever we have to do in overtime to win.”
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LINK: [url="http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/?p=4606"]BaltimoreRavens.com[/url]

[The Flock]

They should have just left it the way it was. You have just a good of chance as the other team. Use your defense to stop their offense that's all their is to it. Then score on offense. Sure there's a disadvantage for the team that doesn't get the football but they should have faith in their defense, that they stop the opposing teams offense.

[theFRANCHISE]

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[DocMartin]

Wow, 28-4 vote, it's supprising to me, I thought it was going yo be much closer. I guess 28 teams don't have much faith in their Defenses. I don't like that fact that NFL is changing rules to favor offensive side, again. What's next? Future 2011 NFL rule change: "When playing Ravens Defense in OT, no one can move the ball, therefore, Ravens have to keep players Ray Lewis & Ed Reed on the bench for limited time, till someone scores, Sincerely NFL Commish...."

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='DocMartin' date='23 March 2010 - 11:19 PM' timestamp='1269400770' post='381810']
Wow, 28-4 vote, it's supprising to me, I thought it was going yo be much closer. I guess 28 teams don't have much faith in their Defenses. I don't like that fact that NFL is changing rules to favor offensive side, again. What's next? Future 2011 NFL rule change: "When playing Ravens Defense in OT, no one can move the ball, therefore, Ravens have to keep players Ray Lewis & Ed Reed on the bench for limited time, till someone scores, Sincerely NFL Commish...."
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Actually, to the contrary, evens the playing field and arguably favors the defense slightly, because that means a game can't be won on an OT field goal unless both teams have already had possession or the loser of the coin toss fails to match the initial possessor's field goal. This puts more pressure on the offense to score a TD on their initial possession to end the game or risk losing to the other team once they gain possession IF they can score a TD. The only advantage the offense has is that they can end the OT period with a TD; a field goal is a lifeline that doesn't deliver a deathblow to the opposing team's defense UNLESS both teams have already possessed the ball once apiece, which means sudden death rules are then in effect.

Keep in mind, the rule change will only be in effect for the postseason as a test run. If there is no OT playoff game and/or the trends remain stagnant, then they could possibly try it during the regular season for one year before voting on whether to retain it.

[DocMartin]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='23 March 2010 - 11:34 PM' timestamp='1269401672' post='381817']
Actually, to the contrary, evens the playing field and arguably favors the defense slightly, because that means a game can't be won on an OT field goal unless both teams have already had possession or the loser of the coin toss fails to match the initial possessor's field goal. This puts more pressure on the offense to score a TD on their initial possession to end the game or risk losing to the other team once they gain possession IF they can score a TD. The only advantage the offense has is that they can end the OT period with a TD; a field goal is a lifeline that doesn't deliver a deathblow to the opposing team's defense UNLESS both teams have already possessed the ball once apiece, which means sudden death rules are then in effect.

Keep in mind, the rule change will only be in effect for the postseason as a test run. If there is no OT playoff game and/or the trends remain stagnant, then they could possibly try it during the regular season for one year before voting on whether to retain it.
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Wait, let me get this straight.
1) In OT my team wins the coin toss, gets the ball, goes down the field & scores TD
2) Now, the other team gets possesion of the ball, down 7 pts, they have to score TD + extra point to tie, correct?
What happens if they decide to got for 2pt conversion?

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='DocMartin' date='23 March 2010 - 11:43 PM' timestamp='1269402227' post='381820']
Wait, let me get this straight.
1) In OT my team wins the coin toss, gets the ball, goes down the field & scores TD
2) Now, the other team gets possesion of the ball, down 7 pts, they have to score TD + extra point to tie, correct?
What happens if they decide to got for 2pt conversion?

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No. Here's the different scenarios:

1) Win the coin toss, get the ball, [b][color="#ff0000"]score TD[/color][/b]; [b]OT is [u]over[/u][/b], other team DOES NOT get the ball back.
2) Win the coin toss, get the ball, [b][color="#0000ff"]kick FG[/color][/b]; [b]OT continues[/b] into sudden death if other team kicks a FG, [b]OT is [u]over[/u][/b] if other team scores a TD.

3) Lose the coin toss, other team [b][color="#ff0000"]scores TD[/color][/b]; [b]OT is [u]over[/u][/b], you DO NOT get the ball back.
4) Lose the coin toss, other team [b][color="#0000ff"]kicks FG[/color][/b]; [b]OT continues[/b] into sudden death if you kick a FG, [b]OT is [u]over[/u][/b] if you score a TD.

5) Win the coin toss, get the ball, [color="#556b2f"][b]fail to score (FG or TD)[/b][/color], other team gets the ball back; [b]OT continues[/b] into sudden death if other team fails to score (FG or TD), [b]OT is [u]over[/u][/b] if they score (FG or TD).

If either team [b]fails to score[/b] on their [u]initial[/u] possessions OR are [b]tied with field goals[/b] after their [u]initial[/u] possessions, then the game automatically goes into sudden death overtime and the first score wins. No matter what, a TD ends the game for either team, regardless of when it comes.

[DocMartin]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='24 March 2010 - 12:21 AM' timestamp='1269404472' post='381827']
No. Here's the different scenarios:

1) Win the coin toss, get the ball, [b][color="#ff0000"]score TD[/color][/b]; [b]OT is [u]over[/u][/b], other team DOES NOT get the ball back.
2) Win the coin toss, get the ball, [b][color="#0000ff"]kick FG[/color][/b]; [b]OT continues[/b] into sudden death if other team kicks a FG, [b]OT is [u]over[/u][/b] if other team scores a TD.

3) Lose the coin toss, other team [b][color="#ff0000"]scores TD[/color][/b]; [b]OT is [u]over[/u][/b], you DO NOT get the ball back.
4) Lose the coin toss, other team [b][color="#0000ff"]kicks FG[/color][/b]; [b]OT continues[/b] into sudden death if you kick a FG, [b]OT is [u]over[/u][/b] if you score a TD.

5) Win the coin toss, get the ball, [color="#556b2f"][b]fail to score (FG or TD)[/b][/color], other team gets the ball back; [b]OT continues[/b] into sudden death if other team fails to score (FG or TD), [b]OT is [u]over[/u][/b] if they score (FG or TD).

If either team [b]fails to score[/b] on their [u]initial[/u] possessions OR are [b]tied with field goals[/b] after their [u]initial[/u] possessions, then the game automatically goes into sudden death overtime and the first score wins. No matter what, a TD ends the game for either team, regardless of when it comes.
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Hmm, that's little better, I'm not sure if I like this new rule - still, if you score TD first, game over, the other team will be crying, they didn't get their hand on the football....... But thanks for the explanation, you doing fine job over there, where-ever that is.

[PuRock]

I don't understand why the Ravens would be against this. If we lose the coin toss, you know damn well we can hold the other team to a FG. Therefore increasing our chances of winning an overtime.

But then again, I guess the same thing can be said for our offense. You know damn well we aren't going to score a TD, that we'd prefer to kick a FG.

But it does favor defenses.

[Chi_Town_Raven]

I agree with Ozzie on this one. It is basically the same thing as if the game were tied in the fourth quarter. Pretty pointless if you ask me.