Qb Issue Closed

[Jamal]

Should be interesting to see who the new coach would want as his QB.

[stan]

I want to state for the record that I was premature in talking about an addition at QB in the draft in the off-season. Another good quality QB added to the mix of this team might be just what we need, after we get a head coach and coaches in place. But I agree with some of the comments here that someone taken in the later rounds, say 3rd round on, might be best both financially and to create a more even playing field going forward with Troy Smith. I will reiterate that Troy may well be the franchise QB we have been looking for, as he showed an awful lot of poise and self control in only his first 2 games starting in the NFL. If he grows in maturity, which we know he will, he can only get better.

Regardless of what happens, I am sure Ozzie and the scouting crew know who is best, and who will present the greatest value for the money at whatever position they are drafted at. I still think Colt Brennan warrants a good looing at, just for shear numbers and raw talent, but might perhaps take longer to develop because he did not have as difficult a college schedule, with the championship level of play, as say Troy Smith had at Ohio State. But getting him or someone else in later rounds as a bargain, ala Troy Smith is the way to go if it is possible.

The most glaring weakness we have as a team is the Offensive line, and If we don't address that issue, with some additions here, and better coaching overall, we will continue to see limited success at QB, no matter who is throwing the ball.

Amen! I completely agree. Not being a professional football talent scout I have no clue as to whether Troy Smith is a franchise type QB. I've been saying with many others, time & time again that the O line has been our achilles' heel. Billick sealed his own fate by not addressing this issue and letting some good O linemen go in leu of over priced skill players that then didn't have time or space to work.

[Mazda]

after finally seeing troy smith play for the 1st time in the pros, i am just writing to say that all the talk about who the QB should be next year should stop! this is troy's team now and the ravens have a lot to focus on this off-season but quarterback isn't one of them. don't waste time and focus where focus is needed!

i agree completely

[neepo13]

Bull- he was fair at best. 75% runs. The Oline did block a little like the pats game. But Troy still fumbled on the 20 when it was 3rd down and throw what would have been two picks if it was any other D back other then Taylor. His numbers were no better then Bollers. Man how people see what they want to see.

For him to be a rookie he showed alot of poise. Troy's mediocre numbers are execusable because this was only his second start. How many games has Boller had to get it done? Comparing Smith as a rookie to Boller as a rookie, Smith wins by a landslide. The point is he deserve a chance to show whether or not he can be a franchise QB, he has earned the opportunity.

[heapitup247]

As I agree Troy Smith has shown that he has great potential, lets not get out of hand here. Troy is a very young player who has never even started for a season yet. to call him the future of the team and that "this is his team now" is a bit premature. He still has a lot to prove before we can say difinitivly that he is the future of this team.

[neepo13]

Actually the Ravens were going up against the Steelers first string defense most of the first half, except for Troy Polamalu (no clue how to spell that) who was out with a knee injury.

The first string defense played until the final snap.

[neepo13]

You are forgetting something, just because Trent Edwards and Beck were picked before him doesnt mean theyre better. Is Ryan Leaf better than Peyton Manning because he was picked before him? Is any QB that got picked before Tom Brady automatically better? Drafting a QB is a crap shoot, but maybe we've found a gem here in troy. at least give him his opportunity, and if it doesnt work then tim tebow should be coming out.

Peyton was number 1. Leaf went number 2. And yes Peyton is better.

[Mazda]

Troy Smith is our only future

[BRYAN1146]

after finally seeing troy smith play for the 1st time in the pros, i am just writing to say that all the talk about who the QB should be next year should stop! this is troy's team now and the ravens have a lot to focus on this off-season but quarterback isn't one of them. don't waste time and focus where focus is needed!

I agree after seeing troy play , he seems to have a calm about him he stays relaxed and the offensive line seems to want to play for him. i said in another blog topic why do we waste a draft pick in a rookie QB when we have one that is a hiesman winner and has already been in the pros a year and has practiced with steve mcnair and boller and should have a good grip on the game and is more framilar with our recivers .

[Dr Devo]

Is Boller a free agent?

I think Smith is the future Ravens QB but with a new coach McNair will get the job if he returns. I agree that when this thread was started it looked like Smith might be starting QB on opening day next season but with Billick out I think a new coach is going to want a proven veteran in the starting spot opening day.

[dlavin]

Is Boller a free agent?

I think Smith is the future Ravens QB but with a new coach McNair will get the job if he returns. I agree that when this thread was started it looked like Smith might be starting QB on opening day next season but with Billick out I think a new coach is going to want a proven veteran in the starting spot opening day.

Nope we gave him a one yr extension the beg. of last yr

[neepo13]

Nope we gave him a one yr extension the beg. of last yr

Yup but with a new coaching staff coming in no one is safe but Ed Reed and Willis McGahee, mainly due to their contracts. Boller could be the first to go.

[Dr Devo]

I kind of doubt Boller will get cut. He's been there too long. I'd think a new coach would want a QB with atleast some experience with the team like Boller has.

[neepo13]

I kind of doubt Boller will get cut. He's been there too long. I'd think a new coach would want a QB with atleast some experience with the team like Boller has.

Experience with the team is irrelevant. New coach means new system and none of the QB's on the team will have experience with it. And if Boller does it means its Billick's system and that would be a bad thing.

[Dr Devo]

I don't think it's irrelevant at all. If McNair is injured and Smith doesn't do well what good is a rookie QB going to do? I think they'd have a better chance with Boller than any rookie. I think more and more it's becoming obvious that rookie QB's aren't able to just step in and get the job done. There needs to be an experienced QB in a back up slot on the roster.

[BRYAN1146]

I kind of doubt Boller will get cut. He's been there too long. I'd think a new coach would want a QB with atleast some experience with the team like Boller has.

I think boller , rolle, musa, bj sams , and probally some others are gone. with chad johnson being available i dont expect anyone to be safe.

[dlavin]

I think boller , rolle, musa, bj sams , and probally some others are gone. with chad johnson being available i dont expect anyone to be safe.

well chad johnson isn't exactly available he is not a FA

[BRYAN1146]

well chad johnson isn't exactly available he is not a FA

he wants out or paid big time , i watch him on mike and mike on espn 2 days ago and he said he was called the cancer of the team and that he distracted the team and that he wasnt sure if there was room for him in cincinatti , so sounded like to me he wants out and cincinatti wants to improve their defense they might be looking to trade chad for someone like suggs or rolle .

[neepo13]

I don't think it's irrelevant at all. If McNair is injured and Smith doesn't do well what good is a rookie QB going to do? I think they'd have a better chance with Boller than any rookie. I think more and more it's becoming obvious that rookie QB's aren't able to just step in and get the job done. There needs to be an experienced QB in a back up slot on the roster.

Trent Edwards, a rookie, had a better year and won more games then Boller. I do agree a good veteran back up is neccessary, I never said that wasnt the case BUT that guy does not have to be Boller. Bollers only advantage was he knew the system very well because he had been here a long time. That advantage is now gone and there is no need to keep him anymore. When he recieved his extenstion it was thought that Billick's system would still be in use this season and that Boller would be able to help whoever we bring in on offense learn it. Thats not the case anymore. And there is a very good chance that Boller will be cut because of it.

[neepo13]

I think boller , rolle, musa, bj sams , and probally some others are gone. with chad johnson being available i dont expect anyone to be safe.

I think Rolle and Boller very well may be out. Musa and Sams dont take up a lot of cap space, so they may be back. Its more likely that Anderson will be cut. Chad Johnson is under contract for like 2 more seasons. He might be traded this offseason and its not probable that the Bungals would trade him to the Ravens, unless we gave up everything.

[dlavin]

he wants out or paid big time , i watch him on mike and mike on espn 2 days ago and he said he was called the cancer of the team and that he distracted the team and that he wasnt sure if there was room for him in cincinatti , so sounded like to me he wants out and cincinatti wants to improve their defense they might be looking to trade chad for someone like suggs or rolle .

yea suggs is a FA this yr so we don't really have him to trade and there is no way we could trade rolle for Chad. We would prob have to give up draft picks, or give them some really good D personell and then have to pay him bigtime, and after already losing picks for McGahee I personally think It would cost us more than it's worth, but that is my total personal opinion. I would love to have a bigtime WR like Chad though.

[neepo13]

yea suggs is a FA this yr so we don't really have him to trade and there is no way we could trade rolle for Chad. We would prob have to give up draft picks, or give them some really good D personell and then have to pay him bigtime, and after already losing picks for McGahee I personally think It would cost us more than it's worth, but that is my total personal opinion. I would love to have a bigtime WR like Chad though.

They may take Bart Scott and I may be willing to part with Scott. His contract only has like a year left on it and thats only if he doesnt hold out, which he might. Scott with Rolle or another player, they might take that but I dont want Johnsons ego in Baltimore.

[dlavin]

They may take Bart Scott and I may be willing to part with Scott. His contract only has like a year left on it and thats only if he doesnt hold out, which he might. Scott with Rolle or another player, they might take that but I dont want Johnsons ego in Baltimore.

that would be an interesting trade. I dunno if I would or not it may give the offense an attitude or ego that we've never had, but then again could cause another problems.

[neepo13]

that would be an interesting trade. I dunno if I would or not it may give the offense an attitude or ego that we've never had, but then again could cause another problems.

I think he would help in the development of Troy Smith but our team plays best when its the underdog. Chad Johnson draws so much attention that it would be hard for us to remain the underdog. Hell, some of the national sports media may actually began to like us.

[dlavin]

I think he would help in the development of Troy Smith but our team plays best when its the underdog. Chad Johnson draws so much attention that it would be hard for us to remain the underdog. Hell, some of the national sports media may actually began to like us.

haha now I wouldn't go that far

[neepo13]

haha now I wouldn't go that far

lol

[BRYAN1146]

They may take Bart Scott and I may be willing to part with Scott. His contract only has like a year left on it and thats only if he doesnt hold out, which he might. Scott with Rolle or another player, they might take that but I dont want Johnsons ego in Baltimore.

I would be willing to part with scott as well, barnes looked good last year, and i think if we keep bart hes going to want big money.

[T-Sizzle55]

I don't think Cinnci would ever give up Chad or at least that easy. They would want Scott, Rolle, and a 4th round draft pick. It could be like when TO left SF and Dallas because he is starting to cause more harm then good. However, TO was pissing off the QB. I think Palmer and Chad have a good relationship even if they sometimes got a little heated with each other this season. For the sake of speculation, I'd be all about giving them Rolle and Scott for Chad Johnson. We can replace Scott with Barnes or Burgess and Rolle with signing DeAngelo Hall, drafting Antoine Cason, or bumping up David Pittman. We need a long threat in a WR like Chad. I think we'd have a much easier time getting Chris Henry. This guy is 6'4, three inches taller than Chad and he is very fast. I think Cinnci would get rid of him for just Bart or just Rolle because of his previous problems with the law, but I think under the right supervision he might be in a life long turn around. Who can Chris go to on Cinnci besides Marvin Lewis? I believe 9 starters have had pending charges or convictions. We have some great upstanding guys on our team that I think really care for and look out for one another off the field not just on it. Ray and Reed are hard working spiritual leaders. Mason and Clayton would prolly break down game film with Henry. Trevor Pryce, Suggs, and JO (if he stays) will give him some tough love. I think Chris Henry can thrive here not just be in the shadow of Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh like he will in Cinnci.