Qb Issue Closed

[Raven07]

not to mention the way the Entire Offense just seemed to Gel and work and gel together alot more so than the other Quarterbacks.....really shows/tells you something abot his character, skill and leadership abilities.... as his teammates said about Troy a few weeks ago "he seems so calm and so poised out there"....its something that the other players on the field feed off of and keep going at a 110 percent on every down.

[Jesse Conroy]

The thing that has impressed me most about troy smith is just his overall confidence level. He gives you that calm, cool feeling like everything is going to be alright no matter what the circumstance. At this point hes looked better than every rookie QB ive seen this year besides Trent Edwards. He still has a lot of developing to do, you can see with his release point, decision making, etc. However, i dont think a new coach could help him any, only slow him down unless its rex ryan. A whole new offensive system could be tough on a young QB who has just learned the last offense.

Good point, but you could also think of this as being good. I mean he did just come in, so how well does he really know the offense. He may just be getting it. It is better for him to change now then a few years down the road. At least now he does not know everything about it like he would later on down the road.

[Raven07]

right, so this game was a building step in his development...and you can bet anything that he was very happy with the way he played out there as compared to his previous weeks of play.

[Jesse Conroy]

right, so this game was a building step in his development...and you can bet anything that he was very happy with the way he played out there as compared to his previous weeks of play.

For a rookie I think he played well every time he went out there.

[heapitup247]

Good point, but you could also think of this as being good. I mean he did just come in, so how well does he really know the offense. He may just be getting it. It is better for him to change now then a few years down the road. At least now he does not know everything about it like he would later on down the road.

I guess it could contribute to his knowledge of the game, but learning one system is much easier than learning two. some say it takes 2-3 years for a QB to learn a system fully. He could be in his second year where he has knowledge of his routes, check downs, etc rather than his first where he may zero in on a target. Maybe this will work out better if we could get a system taylored around troy smiths mobility.

[Raven07]

as i would also agree upon......now its all about building upon those first steps and furthering his development

[Jesse Conroy]

Plus not throwing a int in 70 attempts for a rookie is pretty good.

[Raven07]

agreed....plus finishing his firs season with a 79.5 overall QB rating...and a 2-0 TD to Interception ratio..while also rushing for 1 TD..i would say is pretty dang good for a guy of his current NFL status.

[heapitup247]

Plus not throwing a int in 70 attempts for a rookie is pretty good.

jamarcus russell cant say that and he was the first pick.

[Raven07]

it just comes down to who's more comfortable with what they are doing, and with they're current role and what not as compared to other players in the same sitaution and their overall ability to adjust when needed to do so.

[daylt8dollashort]

Andre Woodson 32/50 358 yds 4 td's 1 Int albeit vs depleted FSU............looking good as a #8 pick overall. Second, I know woulda, shoulda coulda, T. Smith shoulda had at least 2 picks if Ike Taylor could catch something more than a cold............and then the LB's dropped at least 2. I keep telling you all better camera angles from the NFL network. How about getting Jacksonville's backup Quinn Gray or Grey is it. Goodness knows, the Jags have tried just like Cleveland to stick it to us at draft time...See it wasn't Minnesota as much back in 01 or 02 it was James Harris jamming things up and look what they got.........Leftwich..........so it wasn't a dream! You mean I don't get to hear quantify anymore at press conferences? dang!! I loved having a thesarus or dictionary close by when BB spoke...Sage Steele now of ESPN owes him too. She would've been stuck trying to go toe toe with the next coach on 3rd rate Comcast No real sports net............now she's gone to ESPN..........and maybe a Playboy spread if voted on enough as the "gags" sexiest female sportscaster...Is that vote over yet? Whew just to see those chicken legs nekked...........oh yeah, I almost forgot, if Troy Smith was so good, how come John Beck and Trent Edwards just to name a few was taken before him? And why did Derek Anderson from pass happy Oregon State last till the 6th? But yet BB and the Wiz of Oz scooped them up? But i guess it was all Savage and Cass and everybody else who knew talent huh?.........I'm trying to get off the practice squad here so help me out!!! Happy 08 with pick 08!!

[Raven07]

but needless to say..shoulda, woulda, coulda.doesnt matter...as it stands Troy doesnt have those Picks and therefore he's played considerably well for his state

[Raven07]

i was responding to your reference to Troy's "potential Interceptions" by taylor

[heapitup247]

Andre Woodson 32/50 358 yds 4 td's 1 Int albeit vs depleted FSU............looking good as a #8 pick overall. Second, I know woulda, shoulda coulda, T. Smith shoulda had at least 2 picks if Ike Taylor could catch something more than a cold............and then the LB's dropped at least 2. I keep telling you all better camera angles from the NFL network. How about getting Jacksonville's backup Quinn Gray or Grey is it. Goodness knows, the Jags have tried just like Cleveland to stick it to us at draft time...See it wasn't Minnesota as much back in 01 or 02 it was James Harris jamming things up and look what they got.........Leftwich..........so it wasn't a dream! You mean I don't get to hear quantify anymore at press conferences? dang!! I loved having a thesarus or dictionary close by when BB spoke...Sage Steele now of ESPN owes him too. She would've been stuck trying to go toe toe with the next coach on 3rd rate Comcast No real sports net............now she's gone to ESPN..........and maybe a Playboy spread if voted on enough as the "gags" sexiest female sportscaster...Is that vote over yet? Whew just to see those chicken legs nekked...........oh yeah, I almost forgot, if Troy Smith was so good, how come John Beck and Trent Edwards just to name a few was taken before him? And why did Derek Anderson from pass happy Oregon State last till the 6th? But yet BB and the Wiz of Oz scooped them up? But i guess it was all Savage and Cass and everybody else who knew talent huh?.........I'm trying to get off the practice squad here so help me out!!! Happy 08 with pick 08!!

You are forgetting something, just because Trent Edwards and Beck were picked before him doesnt mean theyre better. Is Ryan Leaf better than Peyton Manning because he was picked before him? Is any QB that got picked before Tom Brady automatically better? Drafting a QB is a crap shoot, but maybe we've found a gem here in troy. at least give him his opportunity, and if it doesnt work then tim tebow should be coming out.

[Raven07]

the order in which a player is taken means nothing as to skill and one's overall ability to adjust quicker than others....some adjust quickley and thrive and others take a little bit more time to get the hang of things

[daylt8dollashort]

the order in which a player is taken means nothing as to skill and one's overall ability to adjust quicker than others....some adjust quickley and thrive and others take a little bit more time to get the hang of things

so would you say 5 or 6 years a lil too long? see KB, or just maybe now since both QB's from that Championship game got passed over til late rounds, and Leak couldn't make Da Bears!! And Please I know I didn't just see Tebow's name mentioned as a possible NFL QB? pleaaaaaaaaaase!! But then again the fat guy, oh I'm sorry the weight challenged QB from Kentucky Lorenzen backs up Eli!! Next, someone would be saying Urban Meyer should get an interview, probably because of his brillant mind in handling soft Alex Smith

[USF BULLS RAVEN]

i was responding to your reference to Troy's "potential Interceptions" by taylor

I was referring to daylt8dollashort.

[Raven07]

i think we've been a little too leaniant for boller over the past few season's yes...but he has proven one thing to us....he can provide a solid 1-2 punch as a back up WHEN called upon.

[BRYAN1146]

after finally seeing troy smith play for the 1st time in the pros, i am just writing to say that all the talk about who the QB should be next year should stop! this is troy's team now and the ravens have a lot to focus on this off-season but quarterback isn't one of them. don't waste time and focus where focus is needed!

I agree troy unlike kyle didnt seemed to have a problem with being thrown from college to the pros . hes quick has a good release and made some difficult throws. i will say pittsburg did miss 2or3 piks that they should have caught. but i think troy with alot of work this offseason could be what the ravens need a QB whos going to play 8 or 9 seasons in a row .

[Tiz]

yeah I am so happy the way Troy played he really showed us something! I just wish the other team would of played their top players then it would have been even better!!!

Gotta love it when someone uses logic instead of blind admiration for someone who hasn't proved anything yet.

[Tiz]

I agree troy unlike kyle didnt seemed to have a problem with being thrown from college to the pros . hes quick has a good release and made some difficult throws. i will say pittsburg did miss 2or3 piks that they should have caught. but i think troy with alot of work this offseason could be what the ravens need a QB whos going to play 8 or 9 seasons in a row .

Kyle had to start immediately and didn't have to be groomed by any vet. Kyle also started when things were relevant not when there was nothing to play for. It's as if some of you forget what happened 2 days ago let alone a few years ago. Short term memory..it's not just for dogs anymore

[Raven07]

we cant dwell on the past nor can we keep thinking about the future...we can only live and do what we can right now..in the moment and make the best possible choice for this team and the best possible direction to go in for this team.

[mlasarko]

He needs to work on his form - keep the ball closer to his body and not expose himself as he did in college. The facts are the facts, he showed good visibility down the field and can get the ball where it needs to be. I am much more confident in his ability to play in the NFL after his last performance, but have a feeling we are looking at O-line issues that will make it difficult for him to progress in an optimal manner.

We need a lot of help in a lot of places, the QB position is of medium concern to me at this point.

It was nice to see Troy finish off the season the way he did.

Well done, Troy!

~Marcus Sr.

[Blackbirds20]

I just want to restate that if you didnt see the first string steelers defense playing on sunday then you must have been watching fox, because they were on the field at M&T Bank against Troy. #92 Harrison, who almost single handedly whooped us in the last game played the whole game this time and just didnt do anything. Just because we made them look average doesnt mean there best players werent out there.

[Bullrush]

yeah I am so happy the way Troy played he really showed us something! I just wish the other team would of played their top players then it would have been even better!!!

Are you wasted or something? You better get sober and then come back.

[RaVeNsFaN85]

I think anyone would be good except MCNAIR!! Or as i like to call him McStink. He was horrible this season. I think Troy or Boller would be excellent QB choices!

[fdmstng99]

Andre Woodson 32/50 358 yds 4 td's 1 Int albeit vs depleted FSU............looking good as a #8 pick overall. Second, I know woulda, shoulda coulda, T. Smith shoulda had at least 2 picks if Ike Taylor could catch something more than a cold............and then the LB's dropped at least 2. I keep telling you all better camera angles from the NFL network. How about getting Jacksonville's backup Quinn Gray or Grey is it. Goodness knows, the Jags have tried just like Cleveland to stick it to us at draft time...See it wasn't Minnesota as much back in 01 or 02 it was James Harris jamming things up and look what they got.........Leftwich..........so it wasn't a dream! You mean I don't get to hear quantify anymore at press conferences? dang!! I loved having a thesarus or dictionary close by when BB spoke...Sage Steele now of ESPN owes him too. She would've been stuck trying to go toe toe with the next coach on 3rd rate Comcast No real sports net............now she's gone to ESPN..........and maybe a Playboy spread if voted on enough as the "gags" sexiest female sportscaster...Is that vote over yet? Whew just to see those chicken legs nekked...........oh yeah, I almost forgot, if Troy Smith was so good, how come John Beck and Trent Edwards just to name a few was taken before him? And why did Derek Anderson from pass happy Oregon State last till the 6th? But yet BB and the Wiz of Oz scooped them up? But i guess it was all Savage and Cass and everybody else who knew talent huh?.........I'm trying to get off the practice squad here so help me out!!! Happy 08 with pick 08!!

But like you said Woodson did it against a depleted FSU. Picking Woodson with the 8th pick would be drafting him to soon. I say Woodson is a 2nd rounder at best.

[IvorEngineDriver]

Methinks that Woodson will go in the first round, after Ryan but before Colt Brennan or Chad Henne. I prefer Andre Woodson to Brian Bohm. If JO retires, IMO we ought to seriously consider drafting Ryan Clady or (if by some miracle he is available) Jake Long.

[Raven07]

i feel that Ozzie and staff will have their Top Picks of this years upcoming draft in order As well as (If they, or One potential aspect is taken by another team)..have excellent back up Options to fall back on....as we go through the Draft this year.

[nevermore621]

I want to state for the record that I was premature in talking about an addition at QB in the draft in the off-season. Another good quality QB added to the mix of this team might be just what we need, after we get a head coach and coaches in place. But I agree with some of the comments here that someone taken in the later rounds, say 3rd round on, might be best both financially and to create a more even playing field going forward with Troy Smith. I will reiterate that Troy may well be the franchise QB we have been looking for, as he showed an awful lot of poise and self control in only his first 2 games starting in the NFL. If he grows in maturity, which we know he will, he can only get better.

Regardless of what happens, I am sure Ozzie and the scouting crew know who is best, and who will present the greatest value for the money at whatever position they are drafted at. I still think Colt Brennan warrants a good looing at, just for shear numbers and raw talent, but might perhaps take longer to develop because he did not have as difficult a college schedule, with the championship level of play, as say Troy Smith had at Ohio State. But getting him or someone else in later rounds as a bargain, ala Troy Smith is the way to go if it is possible.

The most glaring weakness we have as a team is the Offensive line, and If we don't address that issue, with some additions here, and better coaching overall, we will continue to see limited success at QB, no matter who is throwing the ball.