Should We Re-Sign Washington If He Wants To Come Back Or Keep Clayton At #4?

[Milton145]

Kelley Washington has said he wants a bigger role at the wide receiver position on offense. But that doesn't look like it's going to happen since no teams have been interested in signing Washington.

Most of us aren't big fans of Mark Clayton. He has shown flashes of being something big but just hasn't been all that consistent. Kelley Washington, straight up, has been way more productive and consistent than Clayton.

The guy is going to have to make a living somehow so my question is, should we resign Kelley Washington to bring him in to compete with Mark Clayton for the #4 and or #3 spot (even throw in Stallworth) at the wide receiver position? If Washington wins the position battle, Flacco would have 2 VERY productive and familiar targets to go along with a tough play making Anquan Boldin and possibly the speedy Stallworth in 4 WR Sets. Chemistry along with play makers can make us a scary offense.

Should we do it for a small $900,000 to $1.5 Million contract?

[Nobi]

I dont think he would want to sign to be a #4, he didn't like the fact he was #3 last year. Washington couldn't beat Stallworth when they were in NE together so I know he does not want to face that situation again. Howver to answer your question I would take him over Clayton any day, we have enough WR's under 6 foot tall.

[PuRock]

Too bad we didn't know we we know now, earlier.

Now I'm wishing we didn't put a second round tender on Clayton. We could've possibly eked out a 4th for the guy.

Kelley Washington I could see going to Buffalo, and I hear they are interested. They are down WR and they desperately need a guy that can extend drives on third downs. And K-Wash would be for it because he would be competing for a starting spot. If we could resign him great, but lets not break the bank for the guy.

I still think we need to draft a young guy early in the draft. Cut ties with Clayton and watch K-Wash go to another team.

[MsMarvel73]

I really do want to see Kelley back over Clayton.

Guess it's a wait and see.

[Ravens_Fan13]

Sign k-wash trade clayton for whatever we can get for him.

[Milton145]

If no one signs him in the up and coming weeks then I'd pretty much say we sign him for a cheap contract.

He's already proven to be a great target and maybe we can cut with Clayton eventually to have a more productive receiver (just a few years older). That would basically ensure we can fully focus on defense in this year's draft and having our vets (all over 30) teach Marcus Smith and Demetrius Williams and Justin Harper, who hopefully, will learn well.

In the end, competition is good and if we can have Washingston who has already proven to be more productive than Clayton, I'd take it. But If I were Ravens I'd try to wait it out so he comes cheaper.

[edreedfromtheu]

Do I want him over Clayton? Of course.

Heck, I want Washington over Stallworth. And based on what he did last season, there's no reason he shouldn't be re-signed. He's too tall for most corners to guard. He's got great hands, and can get up in the air. He's a veteran, and has seen just about any kind of defense. Oh, and him and Flacco already know each other.

Really think it would be a mistake not to bring him back. But it's a mistake that is probably going to be made, because the Ravens basically have stated that they are bringing Clayton back when they placed that stupid-high tender on him. Nobody is giving up their 2nd round pick for Mark Clayton.

[nextgen_RavensFan]

[quote name='Milton145' date='11 March 2010 - 02:59 PM' timestamp='1268337563' post='375008']
Kelley Washington has said he wants a bigger role at the wide receiver position on offense. But that doesn't look like it's going to happen since no teams have been interested in signing Washington.

Most of us aren't big fans of Mark Clayton. He has shown flashes of being something big but just hasn't been all that consistent. Kelley Washington, straight up, has been way more productive and consistent than Clayton.

The guy is going to have to make a living somehow so my question is, should we resign Kelley Washington to bring him in to compete with Mark Clayton for the #4 and or #3 spot (even throw in Stallworth) at the wide receiver position? If Washington wins the position battle, Flacco would have 2 VERY productive and familiar targets to go along with a tough play making Anquan Boldin and possibly the speedy Stallworth in 4 WR Sets. Chemistry along with play makers can make us a scary offense.

Should we do it for a small $900,000 to $1.5 Million contract?
[/quote]

This is a no brainer to me. Drop Clayton and keep Washington. The guys wants the ball and is very physical. With neither of them having great speed you need the one who wants the ball more and will fight for it and that is Washington.

[Ed_Reed20]

I don't think Washington would want to come back considering he could go to another team and be on the field every down rather than just third down.

As for the #4 WR, I'd prefer it be a rookie. He'd learn from the vets and get a few snaps a game.

[Wacko4Zacko]

I heard Miami was interested with signing him.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='11 March 2010 - 03:44 PM' timestamp='1268340249' post='375036']
I don't think Washington would want to come back considering he could go to another team and be on the field every down rather than just third down.

As for the #4 WR, I'd prefer it be a rookie. He'd learn from the vets and get a few snaps a game.
[/quote]

Well, I haven't heard any rumors about teams showing much interest in Washington, let alone as a Top 3 option... Cameron prefers the bigger WR, so he'd definitely get his looks, it's just a matter of Washington accepting that role as well as the type of pay that comes with...

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' date='11 March 2010 - 03:45 PM' timestamp='1268340350' post='375039']
I heard Miami was interested with signing him.
[/quote]

Do you have a link to that info.?

[CustomUserName]

I voted no, we are too stacked at receiver to use both of them, and I think Clayton could have a good year being #4. I mean, he had a few flashes of brilliance at #2, and that's when he was being covered by legit corners, now its just dimebacks and linebackers, I see every reason for him to have a breakout year.

I hope I'm right because worst case scenario this year. If Stallworth and Clayton don't pan out and Mason retires, then we're back to square one with our receivers.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' date='11 March 2010 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1268340680' post='375043']
Well, I haven't heard any rumors about teams showing much interest in Washington, let alone as a Top 3 option... Cameron prefers the bigger WR, so he'd definitely get his looks, it's just a matter of Washington accepting that role as well as the type of pay that comes with...
[/quote]

The Bills and Dolhpins have expressed interest in Kelley and with how weak their WRs corps are, I could see him earning a starting role.

And while Cam certainly likes big-bodied WRs, whose to say he'd use Washington any more than he did last season? Kelley would not only have to beat out Stallworth for the slot spot but then he'd have to hope he sees more balls thrown his way.

I see him moving on.

[H8R]

[quote name='PuRock' date='11 March 2010 - 03:19 PM' timestamp='1268338749' post='375017']
Too bad we didn't know we we know now, earlier.

Now I'm wishing we didn't put a second round tender on Clayton. We could've possibly eked out a 4th for the guy.

Kelley Washington I could see going to Buffalo, and I hear they are interested. They are down WR and they desperately need a guy that can extend drives on third downs. And K-Wash would be for it because he would be competing for a starting spot. If we could resign him great, but lets not break the bank for the guy.

I still think we need to draft a young guy early in the draft. Cut ties with Clayton and watch K-Wash go to another team.
[/quote]


Clayton is a first round tender, you can't put a lower tender then what the player was drafted originally as IIRC.

[PuRock]

[quote name='H8R' date='11 March 2010 - 04:03 PM' timestamp='1268341382' post='375049']
Clayton is a first round tender, you can't put a lower tender then what the player was drafted originally as IIRC.
[/quote]

Clayton was assigned a second round tender I thought. But he was drafted in the 1st.

[Tighthead420]

Washinton proved he is a threat at the position. It is unfortunate that the WR situation the Ravens have could push him out of here. The two pickups (hopefully) solved some glaring issues. However, with Clayton in the mix Washington may just be the odd man out. It's similar to Leonhard from last year. I felt we should have kept him, but it just wasn't meant to be.

Washington was a pick up the Ravens needed last year for some depth. Now with Stallworth as the #3 and Clayton (gag) at #4, there is no need for him. No way will he take the #4 or 5 spot after being productive for us at the #3 all season. He would be happier elsewhere.

[BmoreSports09]

[quote name='PuRock' date='11 March 2010 - 04:17 PM' timestamp='1268342265' post='375055']
Clayton was assigned a second round tender I thought. But he was drafted in the 1st.
[/quote]

Tender options include:

1st & 3rd round tender, 1st round tender, 2nd round tender, Original draft round tender.

Clayton was originally drafted in the 1st round, so an original round tender would mean we would be putting a first round tender on him. Therefore, a 2nd round tender is as low as we could go on Clayton.

[SaVaGe]

FO already let it slip that they would enjoy having Clayton back. Plus Washington expressed his wants of being our number 2 possibly 1, I don't see him back now.

[Tonymontana45]

Drop Clayton and give his tender money to Washington, tell washington he can battle for number 3 spot.

[joemak]

I don't think we should keep either. I think we should forget about Kelley and trade Clayton. Then in the 2nd round draft Mardy Gilyard because Masons getting older and slower.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Tonymontana45' date='11 March 2010 - 05:00 PM' timestamp='1268344857' post='375085']
Drop Clayton and give his tender money to Washington, tell washington he can battle for number 3 spot.
[/quote]

Washington doesn't want to battle for the slot position.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='joemak' date='11 March 2010 - 05:16 PM' timestamp='1268345800' post='375091']
I don't think we should keep either. I think we should forget about Kelley and trade Clayton. Then in the 2nd round draft Mardy Gilyard because Masons getting older and slower.
[/quote]

Trade Clayton where? I do believe the Ravens could get something considering the Eagles traded Reggie Brown but it's going to be tough.

I like Gilyard but would rather the Ravens draft a WR with more upside.

[Milton145]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='11 March 2010 - 05:21 PM' timestamp='1268346117' post='375094']
Trade Clayton where? I do believe the Ravens could get something considering the Eagles traded Reggie Brown but it's going to be tough.

I like Gilyard but would rather the Ravens draft a WR with more upside.
[/quote]

Shipley

I see what you say with the rookie and agree completely agree with you on it, though.


EDIT- I'd rather have Demaryius Thomas but I imagine him being gone by then. But anyway it's not like we get either anymore since we probably won't draft a receiver until the 5th round.

[BMOREHAWAII]

Id be all for re-signing K.Wash and he deserves it because he has came through for us in the past, but what he wants is more money and a starting position but it wont happen with us because we have him the same exact WR in Mason who runs routes better, is quicker, and is proven, and also in Boldin who is younger, stronger, and has better YAC potential..

[Twoo]

I don't care if we sign Bobo the clown, as long as Clayton isn't a part of our roster.

[Ngata92NT]

[quote name='Milton145' date='11 March 2010 - 02:59 PM' timestamp='1268337563' post='375008']
Kelley Washington has said he wants a bigger role at the wide receiver position on offense. But that doesn't look like it's going to happen since no teams have been interested in signing Washington.

Most of us aren't big fans of Mark Clayton. He has shown flashes of being something big but just hasn't been all that consistent. Kelley Washington, straight up, has been way more productive and consistent than Clayton.

The guy is going to have to make a living somehow so my question is, should we resign Kelley Washington to bring him in to compete with Mark Clayton for the #4 and or #3 spot (even throw in Stallworth) at the wide receiver position? If Washington wins the position battle, Flacco would have 2 VERY productive and familiar targets to go along with a tough play making Anquan Boldin and possibly the speedy Stallworth in 4 WR Sets. Chemistry along with play makers can make us a scary offense.

Should we do it for a small $900,000 to $1.5 Million contract?
[/quote]

I'd much prefer Washington to Clayton, but I don't think that will happen. Washington has no chance of starting, he'd have to compete for the #3 or #4 spot. I just don't see him doing that when there are quite a few teams he could start on, or at least compete to start on.

Clayton on the other hand, is a bum and won't have any problems being the #4, riding the bench most of the time and collecting his paycheck. So I think we keep Clayton. For a bum, he's actually pretty talented.

[Romo Ravens]

I loved Kelley Washington last year. So clutch. I dislike Clayton. Sorry Clayton-supporters, but your man has to go. I say we don't even attempt to keep either. Let Clayton walk if he doesn't sign, then just pickup our new number one for the future in the draft.

[Nobi]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='12 March 2010 - 02:29 PM' timestamp='1268422142' post='375666']
I loved Kelley Washington last year. So clutch. I dislike Clayton. Sorry Clayton-supporters, but your man has to go. I say we don't even attempt to keep either. Let Clayton walk if he doesn't sign, then just pickup our new number one for the future in the draft.
[/quote]

Did you say Clayton-Supporter? LOL I dont think you'll find any here. I feel bad for Kelley he has gotten the short end of the stick his whole career, it will be a shame to see him never get his shot.

[bce086]

[quote name='Nobi' date='12 March 2010 - 04:44 PM' timestamp='1268430271' post='375733']
Did you say Clayton-Supporter? LOL I dont think you'll find any here.[/quote]


<-- Here's one. I'm not going to post any of my reasons for this argument. But yes, I support Clayton over Washington. If you're curious as to why, dig up one of the 500 WR debate topics and read it.