2010 Fantasy Draft: Who To Draft?

[PuRock]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='23 June 2010 - 09:53 PM' timestamp='1277344414' post='425431']
My bad. I read somewhere today that he wants to invlove Forte even more, but just read on Rotoworld that Forte should see 200 touches, hardly enough for a bounce back season. Let me just edit that post up above...

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I wouldn't doubt Martz would say that but when it comes time to play, Martz is thinking pass. Always take what you hear from camps with a grain of salt. It's not like Martz would come out and say "We have no plans on getting Forte more involved this year."

One of the worst things to happen to Forte last year.....was Jay Cutler.

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[quote name='PuRock' date='23 June 2010 - 09:59 PM' timestamp='1277344746' post='425439']
This is my favorite part of fantasy. I can't wait to see who are the surprises this year. There will be guys that nobody has even heard of, coming out of the woodwork.

RBs are the ones you have to snag earlier than later. I hate scouring the wavier wires for RBs. It's always so slim and depressing. At least with WRs you can always find a piss-poor serviceable player.
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Agreed.

Good news is there are a good number of RBs worth targeting that will be productive next season.

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[quote name='PuRock' date='23 June 2010 - 10:01 PM' timestamp='1277344885' post='425441']
I wouldn't doubt Martz would say that but when it comes time to play, Martz is thinking pass. Always take what you hear from camps with a grain of salt. It's not like Martz would come out and say "We have no plans on getting Forte more involved this year."

One of the worst things to happen to Forte last year.....was Jay Cutler.
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Well Forte didn't exactly have an amazing yards per carry average anyway. It wasn't above 4 rookie year and his offensive line didn't get any better.

On another note. What do you think of Jay Cutler?

http://blogs.rotoworld.com/Fantasy_Football/2010/06/martz_math.php

I naturally hate the guy and think he's a jerk (which is the nicest bad word I could say on the forum). But Martz knows what he is doing. And that rotoworld article made me a believer. Is he worth a pick? I'm thinking he isn't worth anything under a 7th round pick. 7th is the most I'll give for him

[PuRock]

[quote name='lowrider' date='24 June 2010 - 09:05 AM' timestamp='1277384732' post='425625']
Well Forte didn't exactly have an amazing yards per carry average anyway. It wasn't above 4 rookie year and his offensive line didn't get any better.

On another note. What do you think of Jay Cutler?

http://blogs.rotoworld.com/Fantasy_Football/2010/06/martz_math.php

I naturally hate the guy and think he's a jerk (which is the nicest bad word I could say on the forum). But Martz knows what he is doing. And that rotoworld article made me a believer. Is he worth a pick? I'm thinking he isn't worth anything under a 7th round pick. 7th is the most I'll give for him
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Forte's YPC was bad. That's a lot on him.

Cutler I like. Particularly because he might come at a discount this year. Drafters might be hesitant to draft him because of his INT to TD ratio last year. But the man is now in a Mike Martz system. It'll be his second year in a bears uniform and he should improve from last. At least one would believe.

I just wish somebody would emerge from the Bear's current 11 man wide receiver roster as a pure #1 receiver.

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[quote name='PuRock' date='24 June 2010 - 09:58 AM' timestamp='1277387914' post='425642']
Forte's YPC was bad. That's a lot on him.

Cutler I like. Particularly because he might come at a discount this year. Drafters might be hesitant to draft him because of his INT to TD ratio last year. But the man is now in a Mike Martz system. It'll be his second year in a bears uniform and he should improve from last. At least one would believe.

[b]I just wish somebody would emerge from the Bear's current 11 man wide receiver roster as a pure #1 receiver.[/b]
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Agreed. Aromashodu has the most upside in my opinion but Bennett and Knox have chemistry with Cutler too. And you can't forget about Hester whose getting guidance from Isaac Bruce.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='24 June 2010 - 10:01 AM' timestamp='1277388119' post='425644']
Agreed. Aromashodu has the most upside in my opinion but Bennett and Knox have chemistry with Cutler too. And you can't forget about Hester whose getting guidance from Isaac Bruce.
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Aromashodu definitely has the most potential to be a pure #1 receiver. He has the size and speed to be one. But he's still a 7th round talent that needs to break through. He's an excellent late round sleeper pick this year, as he should see a lot of playing time (which stems from the last 4 games of last year).

Bennett is nice for Cutler, but is purely a ppr guy. He won't get you tons of yards or TDs, but he will rack up some catches.

Knox is the proto-typical deep threat receiver. Some games he'll rack up the points, other games you'll be wishing you started Donnie Avery instead.

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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='24 June 2010 - 10:01 AM' timestamp='1277388119' post='425644']
Agreed. Aromashodu has the most upside in my opinion but Bennett and Knox have chemistry with Cutler too. And you can't forget about Hester whose getting guidance from Isaac Bruce.
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I hate how the Bears took him from a dominant returner that was a force on special teams to a below average receiver. Its so stupid. But anyway, I agree with you. I've heard Knox is going to get playing time because he is a type of player Martz likes whatever that means.

Aromashodu has potiential. When he played Cutler loved him. I think I will expend a 7th pick for Cutler if I can't get Flacco, and a 9th or 10th for Aromashodu. Good value, good potiential.

Drafting 7-12 are terrible spots this year. I'm struggling to find out who I draft in those spots. I think in non-ppr where qbs are more valuable, a Rodgers or Brees would be a good pick. I think in a ppr, once Andre Johnson is gone, I will go Deangelo and get Stewart in the 3rd and see who I can get in the 2nd. Maybe like a Jamaal Charles or Calvin. I would be set for my flex play and rb all year. Consistency would be incredible. But if you all have any better ideas I want to hear it.

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[quote name='PuRock' date='24 June 2010 - 10:09 AM' timestamp='1277388576' post='425646']
Aromashodu definitely has the most potential to be a pure #1 receiver. He has the size and speed to be one. But he's still a 7th round talent that needs to break through. He's an excellent late round sleeper pick this year, as he should see a lot of playing time (which stems from the last 4 games of last year).

Bennett is nice for Cutler, but is purely a ppr guy. He won't get you tons of yards or TDs, but he will rack up some catches.

Knox is the proto-typical deep threat receiver. Some games he'll rack up the points, other games you'll be wishing you started Donnie Avery instead.
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Well said.

I'd consider one of them as my WR4 but nothing more.


[quote name='lowrider' date='24 June 2010 - 10:14 AM' timestamp='1277388884' post='425648']
I hate how the Bears took him from a dominant returner that was a force on special teams to a below average receiver. Its so stupid. But anyway, I agree with you. I've heard Knox is going to get playing time because he is a type of player Martz likes whatever that means.

Aromashodu has potiential. When he played Cutler loved him. I think I will expend a 7th pick for Cutler if I can't get Flacco, and a 9th or 10th for Aromashodu. Good value, good potiential.

[b]Drafting 7-12 are terrible spots this year. I'm struggling to find out who I draft in those spots. I think in non-ppr where qbs are more valuable, a Rodgers or Brees would be a good pick. I think in a ppr, once Andre Johnson is gone, I will go Deangelo and get Stewart in the 3rd and see who I can get in the 2nd. Maybe like a Jamaal Charles or Calvin. I would be set for my flex play and rb all year. Consistency would be incredible. But if you all have any better ideas I want to hear it.[/b]
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I wouldn't say drafting beyond pick 7 is "terrible" but unless you feel good about someone, doubt can creep in. In the mocks I've done picking after the 7th spot, I've drafted Turner and DeAngelo and felt pretty good about those picks.

[Wacko4Zacko]

Im going to give my opniion. A major sleeper in this draft IMO is darren McFadden, eveyrthing I am hearing about him in OTA's compared to last year has been better and good. hes in shape. I ahd anotehr draft today and I took McFadden in the 6th round, and i think he will impress many.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' date='24 June 2010 - 11:51 AM' timestamp='1277394698' post='425696']
Im going to give my opniion. A major sleeper in this draft IMO is darren McFadden, eveyrthing I am hearing about him in OTA's compared to last year has been better and good. hes in shape. I ahd anotehr draft today and I took McFadden in the 6th round, and i think he will impress many.
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Remember a cardinal rule. Take everything you hear from OTA's with a grain of salt. You rarely hear negative things. Everybody are making positive strives, and are being slated to be more involved in game plans etc.

But Darren McFadden should put up some decent stats with an improved offensive line and better QB play this year. Rock Cartwright and Bush will cut into production though.

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I like Bush more than McFadden. Injuries supposedly robbed McFadden of his speed the past two seasons but I've read in numerous places he doesn't like contact and goes down easily.

Bush, on the other hand, runs hard and has been productive every time he's been allowed to pound the rock.

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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='24 June 2010 - 01:24 PM' timestamp='1277400297' post='425784']
I like Bush more than McFadden. Injuries supposedly robbed McFadden of his speed the past two seasons but I've read in numerous places he doesn't like contact and goes down easily.

Bush, on the other hand, runs hard and has been productive every time he's been allowed to pound the rock.
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I can agree with that. Bush averaged 4.8 yards per carry last year and thats with all the Raiders woes. But I would never give up more than an 8th rounder for the Raiders rb's. They work too many backs for one to get a lot of carries and the Raiders just don't score td's, so it's tough for a back to get goalline carries.

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[quote name='lowrider' date='24 June 2010 - 02:07 PM' timestamp='1277402860' post='425833']
I can agree with that. Bush averaged 4.8 yards per carry last year and thats with all the Raiders woes. But I would never give up more than an 8th rounder for the Raiders rb's. They work too many backs for one to get a lot of carries and the Raiders just don't score td's, so it's tough for a back to get goalline carries.
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I'd only draft Bush late as well. But he's a guy I could see becoming starting material as the season goes on.

I'm anticipating the team will score more TDs now that Russell is completely out of the picture. However, if the o-line continues to get abused in pass protection, they'll be the same terrible unit.

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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='24 June 2010 - 02:35 PM' timestamp='1277404510' post='425860']
I'd only draft Bush late as well. But he's a guy I could see becoming starting material as the season goes on.

I'm anticipating the team will score more TDs now that Russell is completely out of the picture. However, if the o-line continues to get abused in pass protection, they'll be the same terrible unit.
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Well maybe I'll spend a late flier on Bush. Can't hurt. He does have potiential if he gets the ball enough.

Well Campbell will feel right at home. Campbell isn't as bad as everyone in Washington made him out to be. I think he could be a decent qb but he doesn't get enough time to throw the ball. And the same situation will occur for him in Oakland, at least this time if he goes 5-12, he exceeds expectations.