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As we all take a deep breath and realize that we now have ANQUAN BOLDIN!!! everyone is wondering whats next...

I think that our 1st priority before the Draft should be signing Mason to a contract that will let him retire a Raven. I know everyone wants us to get younger at the position, but the man puts up 1000+ yards and 80+ receptions year in and year out. He was the only consistency we have had in our offense the past five years. He works his butt off, just like Boldin. And I think if they were paired together we would have a Top 5 WR core.

Last year good teams would just double Mason, spy Ray Rice with a LB and say "someone else has to beat us". And we didn't have an answer. Boldin will really open things up for Mason. I can't wait to see what happens next!!!
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Mason and Boldin seem like one of the better wide receiver corps in the league if we resign..
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With Mason it all depends on the years, one of the most underappreciated guys in the league is D Mase, 15 yars and in, few are better. How much longer can DaMase play on this level?

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We have to resign Mason or we are in trouble. Not only Mason but you have to find a way to bring Jared Gaither back. You don't really want to start the season without either one of these guys. And for the people who think Anquan is a number one receiver you will be disappointed because his speed is average and his hands are good. But i don't think that he is a number one type of guy. Definitely a good two.
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Derrick Mason wants too much upfront money at this point to do anything.

http://twitter.com/RavensInsider

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NFL NETWORK also reported Mason is looking at other teams.
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Technically, the Ravens have already upgraded their reciever core. Boldin and stallworth are an upgrade, not to mention a potential pick in the draft. however, i still think the ravens should re-sign mason. he is teh missing piece to this receieving core. we have a guy to strecth the field and a physical reciever. now we need our possession guy.
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[quote name='JoeCool' date='06 March 2010 - 01:11 PM' timestamp='1267899090' post='371241']
Technically, the Ravens have already upgraded their reciever core. Boldin and stallworth are an upgrade, not to mention a potential pick in the draft. however, i still think the ravens should re-sign mason. he is teh missing piece to this receieving core. we have a guy to strecth the field and a physical reciever. now we need our possession guy.
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Technically, Mason had more yards, touchdowns, yards after the catch, and first downs than Boldin despite having fewer receptions.
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boldin was a little nicked up last year and not to mention he played alongside fitzgerald. mason was our only recieveing threat. i think its the consensus opinion that boldin is better than mason
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lets hope now with all the threats we have on offense that we go out an blaze the comp an bring a superbowl home this year. i dont think we need mason because we could prob get washington for less money an he has more upside. at this point in his career mason wants to much.
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That's too bad. Would have loved to see him end his career in a Ravens jersey. Oh well. I think we bring in one more FA WR and then go after a guy in the draft and keep Clayton. So our Depth Chart will be Boldin - Stallworth - Clayton - Rookie. That is what I realistically think will happen if Mase doesn't come back.
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[quote name='JoeCool' date='06 March 2010 - 01:17 PM' timestamp='1267899422' post='371250']
boldin was a little nicked up last year and not to mention he played alongside fitzgerald. mason was our only recieveing threat. i think its the consensus opinion that boldin is better than mason
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Boldin is always a little nicked up. Mason has played in sixteen games every year since 2003; Boldin has played in sixteen games twice in the same time period (that's his entire NFL career for those of you keeping score). Anquan Boldin may have had Larry Fitzgerald taking attention away from him, but he had 84 receptions compared to Mason's 73 and was less productive.

I'm not at all surprised that Mason wants more money and I won't be surprised if the Ravens do a Dilfer with him.
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Perfekt you make an excellent point, but we need to have D Mase out there as our #2. He is extraordinary at running routes and catching the ball. He would be able to produce alot more than last season due to double coverages being set on Boldin. I like K Wash but and really want him back but if we can resign Mason then Im not sure if Washington would have a future with us. I see Clayton being our #4 guy and hitting the 2nd slot on 4WR sets. We still have some decisions to make adressing our depth chart for sure.
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Stallworth is nothing more than a #3. I repeat; Stallworth is nothing more than #3.

People will underestimate the importance of bringing back Mason, now that we have Boldin, but I'm saying it right now; without Mason we would be like the Bengals last year. One really good receiver, but no one else would complement him.
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[quote name='darklight1216' date='06 March 2010 - 01:30 PM' timestamp='1267900222' post='371267']
Boldin is always a little nicked up. Mason has played in sixteen games every year since 2003; Boldin has played in sixteen games twice in the same time period (that's his entire NFL career for those of you keeping score). Anquan Boldin may have had Larry Fitzgerald taking attention away from him, but he had 84 receptions compared to Mason's 73 and was less productive.

I'm not at all surprised that Mason wants more money and I won't be surprised if the Ravens do a Dilfer with him.
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if you compare their stats since mason joined the ravens, boldin has more yards 3 out of the 5 years and one of the years (last year) mason only had 4 more yards. last year was also the only year taht mason had more touchdowns. Boldin also had more catches 4 of the 5 years. and this is all with him on the same field as fitz. i love maso and i think hes a very good reciever who i DEFINITLY want back, but boldin is definitly an upgrade
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Just thinking of this way.

Losing Mason is not the end for this organization.

Mason served his role respectably here in Baltimore.

I just hope Ozzie and the FO do what's best for the team.

Cause in reality, I wouldn't pay a crazy load of money for a guy who will probably retire next year that is most likely to get a #2 or #3 WR job.

Best of hope for Mason and I hope he finds what he's looking for.

Yes, I would like to have Mason back for one final career run to the Super Bowl, cause I remembered he said that he doesn't want to retire until the time is right and that time is when we win the Superbowl.
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Mason is definately a great reciever, he is good at getting open, hes smart, and without a doubt bringing him back would be insane for us. I hope the ravens can find a way to pull it out. Q has been alittle less productive than mason, but.... its obvious why lol. He played along Breston and Fitzgerald, take a look at both their stats compared to claytons and washingtons. Personally tho, I think having D mason back with this recieving core would be HUGE for a superbowl run for us. Its great to have a deep threat, a physical reciever who can command the middle of the field since heap has fallen off the map, now, like stated before, all we need is mason back as a possesion reciever. And rice out of the backfield.... draft a CB or gresham in the first round, and we're money. Im so excited!!!
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Does it matter if he wants more money, we have no cap which means it won't matter how much we give him, we just gotta be careful that when they work out a new CBA that it won't hurt us with the cap. I say give it to him, but than again I'm sure they are trying to lock up other players as well so I'm not sure what to do. If he don't re-sign with us, I'd much rather see him go to Miami than New England, Miami I can deal with him going there, New England no way.
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Jamal is right. The Boldin signing is very nice but without Mason, how much better will the passing game be? The WR(s) and TE the Ravens draft aren't guaranteed to be a major contributers their rookie years.

With Kevin Walter off the market and not much else to speak, the Ravens have to get this deal done. Or they could pursue Antonio Bryant but he may looking for too much coin as well.
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[quote name='Jamal' date='06 March 2010 - 01:34 PM' timestamp='1267900470' post='371272']
Stallworth is nothing more than a #3. I repeat; Stallworth is nothing more than #3.

People will underestimate the importance of bringing back Mason, now that we have Boldin, but I'm saying it right now; without Mason we would be like the Bengals last year. One really good receiver, but no one else would complement him.
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Totally agree. I've been repeating myself several times that we need to bring back Mason badly. Without Mason, we might go back to the old system with 1 man target. With Mason and Bolding getting all the attention from the opposed defense, our newly drafted WRs and Donte will have time to grow for sure.
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true and that being said, we technically "could" survive without Mason and still have a pretty elite WR core. We could sign Washington for way less money, hes alittle more physical then mason and could be our possesion guy along side clayton. I still think we need to look at a TE, CB in the first round, and possibly a DT in the second depending on how the chips fall.

Let me just say this... as far as all the speculation from last year about us getting Boldin and all the critisizm Ozzie got for not grabbing him. Ozzie is THE MAN.... everyone knew Q's stock would fall from last year to this year, and instead of giving up a first round and possibly third round last year... we gave up a 3 and a 4 this year, and got Q and a 5th... I think we all need to give up to Ozzie for being patient, smart, and doing whats best for our football team. What a great move!
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As much as we all want Mason back if it doesn't happen there are still plenty of options out there. I think this deal will get done once Mason weighs his options out and I believe he will realize what he has in Baltimore. If it doesn't get done then you could look at Antonio Bryant, Chris Chambers, Torry Holt, Arnaz Battle, and ultimately draft some youth in April for the future.
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Let's move on. I'm tired of his little games. He was a great receiver for us the past few years but i'm tired of him playing games and messing with our minds. He always threatens to leave or retire just in order to get us to overpay for him. Well, our new go to guy arrived yesterday. We're not desperate for a #1 WR anymore, Derrick. You blew it.
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MARCH 6, 2010

Mason could return, but no longer a priority
The addition of Anquan Boldin doesn't eliminate the chances of Derrick Mason returning, but the Ravens no longer view the free-agent wide receiver as one of their priorities, a league source said.

Mason, 36, certainly lost his leverage by not agreeing to a two-year deal with the Ravens before free agency began. Because Boldin and Mason play similar styles, it's not considered a necessity to bring back Mason.

There is a chance that the Ravens could wait until after the draft in April to re-sign Mason. So far, Mason has drawn interest from New England and Miami but he hasn't set up visits.

Mason's agent did not return messages from The Sun on Friday or Saturday.


http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2010/03/mason_could_return_but_no_longer_a_priority.html
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[quote name='POE' date='06 March 2010 - 01:56 PM' timestamp='1267901816' post='371301']
As much as we all want Mason back if it doesn't happen there are still plenty of options out there. I think this deal will get done once Mason weighs his options out and I believe he will realize what he has in Baltimore. If it doesn't get done then you could look at Antonio Bryant, Chris Chambers, Torry Holt, Arnaz Battle, and ultimately draft some youth in April for the future.
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Chambers and Bryant are good options, but I'm not sure about the others.

The worst case scenario would be, by the time Mason is signed, these 2 are too.
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Sorry Mason, you missed the bus. As much as I'd like to have you, we're better off without a player who only cares about money and contract length when he only anticipates playing for one more year (which he's said numerous times).
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[quote name='Twoo' date='06 March 2010 - 02:00 PM' timestamp='1267902051' post='371306']
MARCH 6, 2010

Mason could return, but no longer a priority
The addition of Anquan Boldin doesn't eliminate the chances of Derrick Mason returning, but the Ravens no longer view the free-agent wide receiver as one of their priorities, a league source said.

[b]Mason, 36, certainly lost his leverage by not agreeing to a two-year deal with the Ravens before free agency began.[/b] Because Boldin and Mason play similar styles, it's not considered a necessity to bring back Mason.

There is a chance that the Ravens could wait until after the draft in April to re-sign Mason. So far, Mason has drawn interest from New England and Miami but he hasn't set up visits.

Mason's agent did not return messages from The Sun on Friday or Saturday.


http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2010/03/mason_could_return_but_no_longer_a_priority.html
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It's sad and disappointing that he rejected the 2yr deal. I know greedy is part of our species, but it sucks in this case. However, worse comes to worse, and we definitely can find a replacement. Personally, I like Mason coming back for another 2 yrs :(
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I was in favor of re-signing him to complete the WR corps, but if he only wants extra money and won't accept a 2 year deal, then we have to move on. We shouldn't be spending ridiculous amounts on a #2 WR, who only has a couple years (if that) left in him.
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