Report: Hue Jackson to Accept Raiders O.C. Job

[Rinbee]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' date='26 January 2010 - 10:53 AM' timestamp='1264521205' post='351286']
Having a good QB Coach is important, but if Ozzie doesn't give Joe weapons it won't make a difference. Getting a #1 WR should be top priority this off-season.
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Why does every thread have to go back to receivers! If a topic cannot stand on it's own it should be closed.

[Ed_Reed20]

I wonder if the Ravens will have hired the new QB coach by the end of the week.

[FlaccoIsHot]

I don't know. Harbs said he will announce a replacement soon, but not immediately. So either he already knows who it's going to be and is just not ready to announce or he is doing interviews, then announcing. Who knows. I would say by next week at the latest though...

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='Rinbee' date='26 January 2010 - 02:48 PM' timestamp='1264535289' post='351446']
Why does every thread have to go back to receivers! If a topic cannot stand on it's own it should be closed.
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Hey, just trying to point out the facts...

[poedacrow]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='26 January 2010 - 12:41 PM' timestamp='1264524117' post='351312']
Unless Jackson is looking to work with Bruce Gradkowski instead of JaMarcus Russell, I can't see this boding well for him.
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Exactly. I don't know of anyone that thinks Jamarcus Russel is salvageable(except Al Davis).

[poedacrow]

Both men seem to have the credentials for the job with a slight nod towards Zorn. (I think Zorn's been unfairly maligned; that was a mess down in DC he had to deal with)

The most critical thing in my mind is that Flacco continue under a familiar offensive scheme.

[LilyRaven]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='26 January 2010 - 02:45 PM' timestamp='1264535159' post='351444']
I live in Redksins country, so I'll believe it when I see it.[/quote]



So do I and thanks to my father in law see more Skins games live than I do Ravens. Zorn is a class act and seriously took the fall for that monstrosity of disfunction they call the Redskins. I would be thrilled to have him on board.

[ravens27]

I would love to have Zorn. He is a great QB coach.

[ZIBBY28]

The only thing that worries me about Zorn is that he nit-picks technique. He doesn't really "go with" what a guy already does well, he tries to breakdown his technique completely and build up what he wants.

Maybe this is what Flacco needs to take the next step, but I don't know. It seems as if he looked lost at times this year and I'm not sure trying to emphasize perfect technique will help or hurt his progression by trying to think/do too much.

just a thought...

[BuckWilds]

While I'll miss Hue and the stability he brought to Joe's development, I'm looking forward to a new perspective on helping Joe develop his progression and release.

[reediddy]

Where's the loyalty??? Well good luck to you Mr. Jackson, you officially have to deal with the worst QB ever to step foot in the NFL

[J-man]

My dad told me Zorn is coming to the Ravens. If that is true, I might shot myself. The last thing we need is for Zorn to show Flacco how to play like Jason Campbell.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='J-man' date='26 January 2010 - 06:23 PM' timestamp='1264548228' post='351579']
My dad told me Zorn is coming to the Ravens. If that is true, I might shot myself. The last thing we need is for Zorn to show Flacco how to play like Jason Campbell.
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Zorn isn't the reason Campbell is an average QB.

When Zorn was a QB coach in Seattle, he was very successful.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='ZIBBY28' date='26 January 2010 - 04:54 PM' timestamp='1264542871' post='351550']
The only thing that worries me about Zorn is that he nit-picks technique. He doesn't really "go with" what a guy already does well, he tries to breakdown his technique completely and build up what he wants.

Maybe this is what Flacco needs to take the next step, but I don't know. It seems as if he looked lost at times this year and I'm not sure trying to emphasize perfect technique will help or hurt his progression by trying to think/do too much.

just a thought...
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Matty is a "nit-picker" too according to the players, and someone totally changed Flacco's throwing motion. Perhaps those are the kinds of coaches the Ravens are into now.

[RavensAllTheWay]

The only system Jim Zorn has ever been a part of in the NFL is the West Coast. If he's hired, will that change our offensive system in any significant way? Being that he would only be the QBs coach as opposed to O coordinator.

[FlaccoFan83]

I'd be happy with either Zorn or Saunders. Good luck, Hue!

[RoflDogs]

GO GET ZORN!!!!

He was a GREAT QB coach in Seattle

[WCRaiderfan]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='26 January 2010 - 02:36 PM' timestamp='1264534610' post='351437']
I'm glad you're one of the few Raiders fans who recognize that Al Davis has held back the team in recent years and that JaMarcus Russell is not the answer. Sometimes, I head on over to Raider Nation and other Raiders message boards and I see people actively defending Davis and Russell, as if they're not a huge part of the problem in Oakland. It boggles the mind, especially considering the talent the Raiders have at key positions (RB, LB, DL.)

JaMarcus Russell will fail, no matter how talented Hue Jackson is, because Russell is not a student of the game and has shown no willingness to take the extra steps off-the-field that separate the average QBs from the good and great ones. Bruce Gradkowski showed last season that he is the answer in Oakland, and if he can stay healthy, Al Davis would be stupid to let him go.

Hue Jackson's strength, from what I've seen in his work in Cincinnati and Baltimore in various positions, is basically his knowledge of offensive football in general, given that he's coached at last three different skill positions and has helmed whole offenses before. Had Bobby Petrino not left Atlanta high-and-dry and had there not been a QB shuffle, Jackson could've had much more success with the Falcons in his lone season there as coordinator. Also, from all indications, Jackson is very much a people-person and seems to know how to get the most out of the players he works intimately with, from Clinton Portis to Ladell Betts to Chad Ochocinco to T.J. Houshmandzadeh to Chris Henry to Joe Flacco. Before Jackson was hired, lots of players spoke glowingly of him in soundbytes.

One lone season in Atlanta, however, makes it hard to gauge whether Jackson's failures as an offensive coordinator were because of the personnel or his own system. Either way, that offense was dismal that season. I didn't see him as offensive coordinator with the Redskins, but I'm assuming that he was let go largely because Joe Gibbs came in the following year and gutted the staff.
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Thanks Franchise for the info. Most Raiders fans are well aware that AD is the problem and Jbust will never do anything. There are still a few supporters but far and few between. Next to the Coliseum, there is a billboard that says, "Please Al, hire a GM" We all know we should have a GM with control of personel but that just isn`t going to happen as long as Al is around so we just hope for the best as AD hand picks various coaches and assistants and hope a magic combo will create the ultimate team. Most of us over here want Gradkowski to succeed but we also know we are in dire need of a more powerful O and D line and ML.......but whom will we draft????? Probably super fast track stars that can`t play football...lol. Anyway, thanks for the response and I look forward to watch HJ make Bruce Gradkowski even better.

[FlaccoIsHot]

To be honest I"m not sure how I feel about either since I'm not familiar with them. I was reading a post by Preston and he was saying that Joe was really close to Hue and went between Joe and Cam when there were problems. Should we be concerned about these "problems" between them. Apparently they seem to be at odds more than we know. I really hope whoever comes in doesn't stunt Joe's growth...he has so much potential.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='J-man' date='26 January 2010 - 05:23 PM' timestamp='1264548228' post='351579']
My dad told me Zorn is coming to the Ravens. If that is true, I might shot myself. The last thing we need is for Zorn to show Flacco how to play like Jason Campbell.
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Zorn might have been underqualified to be a head coach in the NFL, but I still dont think his management and team made it easier on him. Portis was a dirtbag for most of Zorn's time there and he was never given the tools to fix his Oline whatsoever. What the Redskins did to Zorn this last season was entirely unprofessional. Like many people have pointed out he was a good QB coach prior to his HC stint and he has a personality that fits Joe's.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='FlaccoIsHot' date='26 January 2010 - 08:49 PM' timestamp='1264556951' post='351669']
To be honest I"m not sure how I feel about either since I'm not familiar with them. I was reading a post by Preston and he was saying that Joe was really close to Hue and went between Joe and Cam when there were problems. Should we be concerned about these "problems" between them. Apparently they seem to be at odds more than we know. I really hope whoever comes in doesn't stunt Joe's growth...he has so much potential.
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You will find that Mike Preston's opinion isn't worth much to many of our members.

[WCRaiderfan]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='27 January 2010 - 12:29 AM' timestamp='1264570186' post='351773']
You will find that Mike Preston's opinion isn't worth much to many of our members.
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As a Raider fan, I`m stoked that Al Davis decided to even have an offensive coordinator this year. Last year we didn`t have one. Hue Jackson seems to help wherever he goes....let`s hope he does well over here. Again, how do you guys anticipate he runs an offense? Run, run, pass? Or will he be more creative? Think he`ll use McFadden as a WR more often?
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Again, I`m not one coming in here as another fan to disrupt or direspect your forum, I`m just learning who HJ is....if I start pissing people off, I`ll roll out out of here in respect for your forum. Just let me know.

[Alexir]

[quote name='J-man' date='26 January 2010 - 06:23 PM' timestamp='1264548228' post='351579']
My dad told me Zorn is coming to the Ravens. If that is true, I might shot myself. The last thing we need is for Zorn to show Flacco how to play like Jason Campbell.
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Dude, what Zorn did with Hasselbeck and shoot, even Seneca Wallace was pretty amazing. Jason Campbell is just the black Kyle Boller. He has heart and wants to do well and his teammates love him but just doesnt have the talent or instinct.

[Alexir]

[quote name='WCRaiderfan' date='27 January 2010 - 12:43 AM' timestamp='1264571022' post='351777']
As a Raider fan, I`m stoked that Al Davis decided to even have an offensive coordinator this year. Last year we didn`t have one. Hue Jackson seems to help wherever he goes....let`s hope he does well over here. Again, how do you guys anticipate he runs an offense? Run, run, pass? Or will he be more creative? Think he`ll use McFadden as a WR more often?
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Again, I`m not one coming in here as another fan to disrupt or direspect your forum, I`m just learning who HJ is....if I start pissing people off, I`ll roll out out of here in respect for your forum. Just let me know.
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Obviously Raiders and Ravens offensive mind set is pretty similar. Both teams have pretty damn good running backs and crappy recievers but pretty good tight ends. So yes, you will see a lot of run, run, pass!

I hope for your sake you guys start Bruce and not Russell.

P.s. Im sorry Al Davis is still your owner...that's gotta suck man. Hopefully someone other than him drafts for you this year

[Alexir]

Also, yes I had to do it.....


Bye HUE!!!!


[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgNREzBAnY4"]HUE!!!!!![/url]


^LINK

[FlaccoIsHot]

yes I realize that Preston is an idiot and to take things he says with a grain of salt. It just seems like there are more and more signs pointing to a conflict with Joe and Cam.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='WCRaiderfan' date='27 January 2010 - 12:43 AM' timestamp='1264571022' post='351777']
As a Raider fan, I`m stoked that Al Davis decided to even have an offensive coordinator this year. Last year we didn`t have one. Hue Jackson seems to help wherever he goes....let`s hope he does well over here. Again, how do you guys anticipate he runs an offense? Run, run, pass? Or will he be more creative? Think he`ll use McFadden as a WR more often?
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Again, I`m not one coming in here as another fan to disrupt or direspect your forum, I`m just learning who HJ is....if I start pissing people off, I`ll roll out out of here in respect for your forum. Just let me know.
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I'm not sure, but I'd expect to see a lot of run plays.

[quote name='FlaccoIsHot' date='27 January 2010 - 10:54 AM' timestamp='1264607653' post='351845']
yes I realize that Preston is an idiot and to take things he says with a grain of salt. It just seems like there are more and more signs pointing to a conflict with Joe and Cam.
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Well we have to remember that it was one incident. It might not be significant. On the other hand, the argument might have been a culmination of longtime displeasure. Who knows?

I wonder how many coaches requested an interview for this job. Surely, it must be one of the more attractive offensive openings.

[FlaccoIsHot]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='27 January 2010 - 11:32 AM' timestamp='1264609944' post='351856']
I'm not sure, but I'd expect to see a lot of run plays.


Well we have to remember that it was one incident. It might not be significant. On the other hand, the argument might have been a culmination of longtime displeasure. Who knows?

I wonder how many coaches requested an interview for this job. Surely, it must be one of the more attractive offensive openings.
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True it was just one instance. I had seen others around the web suggest that it was an ongoing thing and that Hue diffused a lot of the problems. But WNST mentioned on twitter that Joe and Cam are cool and Joe is probably trying to push his limits a little bit which I think is a good thing.

Almost all of the writers that cover the ravens have said that coaching Flacco would be a great gig and that the ravens will probably receive a lot of calls. I think it was pretty telling that Harbs didn't want to say anything about it yesterday when asked at the senior bowl.

[theFRANCHISE]

With Jackson headed to Oakland, part of me thinks there's the outside chance that Troy Smith will want to follow him there. Though Smith could get a shot to start before the end of the season if the Raiders repeat the disastrous seasons they've had recently, there's still the matter of Bruce Gradkowski waiting in the wings while JaMarcus Russell prepares to fail yet again. I'm not sure if Smith would take that gamble of being a third-string QB if he's looking to start, especially if it's a team with organizational problems like the Raiders.

Russell is on thin ice and the only thing saving him is his enormous salary, which Al Davis is justifying as his reason for keeping the faith in Russell. Davis doesn't like to waste money, which is ironic, given that he's dished out huge contracts to players no longer on the team (DeAngelo Hall), players that have been wholly underwhelming (Javon Walker), players who haven't panned out as draft picks (Russell), and players who were coming off of serious injuries and didn't have the production to justify the price tag (Tommy Kelly.)

That said, I repeat: Bruce Gradkowski is the answer in Oakland. He should've been the answer in Tampa Bay, but they got impatient.

[darklight1216]

Perhaps you are right, Franny. Maybe Bruce is the right quarterback for that team. I think there are still some more questions that need answering on that team.

[quote name='FlaccoIsHot' date='27 January 2010 - 11:51 AM' timestamp='1264611101' post='351867']
True it was just one instance. I had seen others around the web suggest that it was an ongoing thing and that Hue diffused a lot of the problems. But WNST mentioned on twitter that Joe and Cam are cool and [b]Joe is probably trying to push his limits a little bit[/b] which I think is a good thing.

Almost all of the writers that cover the ravens have said that coaching Flacco would be a great gig and that the ravens will probably receive a lot of calls. I think it was pretty telling that Harbs didn't want to say anything about it yesterday when asked at the senior bowl.
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Awww... our little boy is growing up.

I saw that article; it was kind of surprising that Harbs was so short with the reporters.