Hue Jackson A Candidate For Bears OC

[FlaccoIsHot]

[url="http://http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/25/hue-jackson-a-candidate-for-bears-offensive-coordinator/"]My link[/url]

I'm still hoping that he stays to continue Joe's development but the more interviews he gets the less likely he is to stay I guess...


UPDATE (1/26): Hue Jackson will become the new offensive coordinator of the Oakland Raiders. ([url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4859138"]Link[/url])

Discuss it [url="http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/18959-report-hue-jackson-to-accept-raiders-oc-job/"]here[/url]

[RavensAllTheWay]

Why is Hue Jackson such a hot candidate for all these teams? It's not like he's turned Flacco, Smith or Beck into elite QBs....yet

I hope he remains here, so he can continue to help these guys improve.

[FlaccoIsHot]

When Flacco was drafted it was projected that he was going to be a couple year project qb that would be pretty good in 5 years. In 2 years he has put up great numbers and is on his way to being a great qb in this league. Possibly pro bowl caliber in the next year or two. I'd say a lot of that is b/c of Hue. I really hope he stays to continue Flacco's growth.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' date='25 January 2010 - 03:20 PM' timestamp='1264450828' post='350839']
Why is Hue Jackson such a hot candidate for all these teams? It's not like he's turned Flacco, Smith or Beck into elite QBs....yet

I hope he remains here, so he can continue to help these guys improve.
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Hue Jackson had tremendous success with Cincinnati's offense as the WR coach and was great in Washington prior to that as a RB coach, helping to take Clinton Portis to the next step in his game. Jackson also helped mold Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart in college.

Basically, Jackson's vast understanding of offensive football is shown in his ability to coach three different skill positions extremely well, and just those fundamentals alone would ideally make him a good offensive coordinator. His most recent stint as OC came in Atlanta in 2007, but he was doomed to fail because of Bobby Petrino leaving his post and because of the glut of injuries and the constant shuffle at the QB position.

[McBurks]

Hopefully he stays to develop Flacco into an elite QB.

[FlaccoIsHot]

Adam Schefter is saying that Hue is going to be traveling to Chicago to interview tomorrow. I have mixed feelings. I know he has been a big part of Flacco's development so if he leaves I just hope Harbs and Cam can find someone just as good to continue his development into an elite qb.

[bscott57]

Get him out of here, after reading an article on Yahoo Sports where he said Flacco was much better than Aaron Rodgers I could care less if he stays or goes. I am not one who is impressed with the progressions Flacco has made over his 2 years, still cant make plays with the game on the line or against good teams.

[FlaccoIsHot]

wow...we must not be watching the same qb...

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='bscott57' date='25 January 2010 - 09:24 PM' timestamp='1264472674' post='351098']
Get him out of here, after reading an article on Yahoo Sports where he said Flacco was much better than Aaron Rodgers I could care less if he stays or goes. I am not one who is impressed with the progressions Flacco has made over his 2 years, still cant make plays with the game on the line or against good teams.
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I don't know how one can't be impressed with a 2nd-yr QB throwing for 3600 yds, 21 TDs, and only 12 picks (matching the total INTs from the rookie season), in addition to an improved completion percentage and an 88.9 QB rating, especially considering that he was only 400 yds shy of a 4,000 yard season -- with 4,000 yards being the benchmark for an elite QB lately. That was also with no deep threat and barely any receivers.

Again, a SECOND-YEAR QB. Still learning. Started from Day One. After YEARS of Boller.

[bscott57]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='25 January 2010 - 09:31 PM' timestamp='1264473071' post='351101']
I don't know how one can't be impressed with a 2nd-yr QB throwing for 3600 yds, 21 TDs, and only 12 picks (matching the total INTs from the rookie season), in addition to an improved completion percentage and an 88.9 QB rating, especially considering that he was only 400 yds shy of a 4,000 yard season -- with 4,000 yards being the benchmark for an elite QB lately. That was also with no deep threat and barely any receivers.

Again, a SECOND-YEAR QB. Still learning. Started from Day One. After YEARS of Boller.
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Gotta manage games and make plays with the game on the line. Jackson has not taught him how to do this. His stats are meaningless, take Detroit and Chicago out of the equations (460 yds and a 127 passer rating, 5 TD's) and his stats are mediocre at best. I understand these games are important but we had a pretty easy schedule this year to go 10-6. Raiders, Chiefs, Lions, Browns (2x) and even the Bears.

[FlaccoIsHot]

you can make stats look any way you want. You can take any qb's 2 best games out and I bet they look pretty mediocre. He had great games against San Diego, Minnesota, Denver, New England, Cleveland (1st game), Pitt (1st game), along with Chicago and Detroit.

Every team has easy games....not just the Ravens. Joe didn't singlehandedly lose 7 games this year...it's a team game. The defense was not great the 1st half of the season and the playcalling left a lot to be desired at times.

[bscott57]

[quote name='FlaccoIsHot' date='25 January 2010 - 10:09 PM' timestamp='1264475353' post='351123']
you can make stats look any way you want. You can take any qb's 2 best games out and I bet they look pretty mediocre. He had great games against San Diego, Minnesota, Denver, New England, Cleveland (1st game), Pitt (1st game), along with Chicago and Detroit.

Every team has easy games....not just the Ravens. Joe didn't singlehandedly lose 7 games this year...it's a team game. The defense was not great the 1st half of the season and the playcalling left a lot to be desired at times.
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I understand that but we had an easy schedule this year, no one can argue that.

Also Joes past history of decision making probably factored into Cam's play calling. When Joe threw the ball less than 30 times we were 6-1.

[FlaccoIsHot]

I think Flacco's injury played into the playcalling. Again, it was just his 2nd year. I'm not sure what you expect for a 2nd year player, even Peyton Manning wasn't great in the "big" games his first few years in the NFL. If Cam wants Flacco to develop into a great player he's going to have to let him take his lumps...if he doesn't let him throw in the middle of the field (for example) then he will never learn.

[JO_75]

I wish him luck in his interview with the Bears. I am not one to hold someone back from getting a promotion with another team and if he goes, I'm sure we have someone else great that can work with Joe. If he chooses to stay here as a QB coach than thats great, and considering the teams that want him, he might end up staying because Oakland and Chicago won't get him a chance at getting a SB next year.

Hopefully after he returns from Chicago, the Ravens interview Hue and try to convince him to stay with the organization next season just like how they got Rex to stay in Harbaugh's first year and than let him move on in 2011 or 2012(whenever there is football again.)

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='bscott57' date='25 January 2010 - 10:26 PM' timestamp='1264476413' post='351131']
[b]I understand that but we had an easy schedule this year, no one can argue that.[/b]

Also Joes past history of decision making probably factored into Cam's play calling. When Joe threw the ball less than 30 times we were 6-1.
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uhm... we played 3 teams while they were undefeated....


I didn't realize there were easy days in the NFL

we played every AFC Playoff team except the Jets.... we played the Vikes, and the Packers

7/12 playoff teams we played


and I fail to see how its all his fault for some of those losses..... did you not forget how we were the league leader in penalties.... practically giving their team a free trip to the redzone... if not the endzone with the yardage we gave up in penalty yards per game


Flacco is going to be a great QB

[bscott57]

We played 6 of 11 playoff teams (the other team being us). 7 games vs these teams.

Vikings
Packers
Pats
Colts
Chargers
Bengals

We also played 7 games vs subpar .500 teams, 4 of which were against the worst 3 teams in the AFC.

Our schedule was much more difficult last year.


I am not saying this was all Flacco's fault.

Again what I was saying in this thread is that Hue Jackson was quoted in YahooSports saying that Flacco was better than Aaron Rodgers and took a stab at GB in saying we made it past the first week of the playoffs, and made it sound like Flacco was the reason we won the first week. He sounded arrogant as well as clueless.

I find it very hard to believe Cam cant find a replacement for Jackson if he leaves, he may know a little something about QB's since he had a large part in grooming Brees and Rivers.

[JohnJohnson]

[quote name='bscott57' date='25 January 2010 - 10:53 PM' timestamp='1264474406' post='351116']
Gotta manage games and make plays with the game on the line. Jackson has not taught him how to do this. His stats are meaningless, take Detroit and Chicago out of the equations (460 yds and a 127 passer rating, 5 TD's) and his stats are mediocre at best. I understand these games are important but we had a pretty easy schedule this year to go 10-6. Raiders, Chiefs, Lions, Browns (2x) and even the Bears.
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This is just utterly false, we had a relatively hard schedule, and we had the hardest schedule of the AFC playoff teams. Patriots, Colts, Bengals twice in their prime, Steelers (who we should have beaten twice, the second game was not Flacco's fault at all), Broncos, Chargers, Vikings/Packers away and Bears/Lions at home (opposite for Steelers, home advantage doesn't mean as much against low level teams). Besides, every QB has these easy games, so that's not really a good argument, it's all relative.

Flacco actually did quite well considering his weapons and injuries. Every year you see elite QBs blow huge games, playoff games, championships. What exactly do you expect? A two year Peyton Manning (who has had his share of bad games, including a four interception game against the Patriots in the playoffs)? It's easy for you to sit there and make vague criticisms, but you need to put everything in perspective.

[JohnJohnson]

I think we'll trust the recruiting of NFL organizations that actually have relevant information about the man, as opposed to your claim that Hue Jackson made some irrelevant remark (without a link).

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='bscott57' date='26 January 2010 - 12:47 AM' timestamp='1264484856' post='351172']
Again what I was saying in this thread is that Hue Jackson was quoted in YahooSports saying that Flacco was better than Aaron Rodgers and took a stab at GB in saying we made it past the first week of the playoffs, and made it sound like Flacco was the reason we won the first week. He sounded arrogant as well as clueless.
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Are you talking about [url="http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/8500/will-flacco-step-up-in-indy"]this quote[/url]?:

[QUOTE]"People are talking about the great night that Rodgers had [with] Green Bay, but no offense to that, he's sitting at home," Jackson said. "Our guy is still playing. I’m sure all those guys would trade all those nice passes and good-looking passing stats for the opportunity to keep competing to get to the championship game.

"What we talk about around here is winning. We’re willing to whatever it takes to win, whether it’s throwing it 50 times or running it 50 times.'
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I see nothing arrogant about that, if that's what you're referring to; he was answering a question about whether Flacco didn't get enough credit for his (then) 3-1 postseason record compared to Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer, and draft mate Matt Ryan, who all have zero playoff wins despite the numbers they've put up. He's basically saying that Flacco is playing smart.

He's not saying that Flacco is better than Rodgers right now.

And how many teams expect their 2nd-year QB to win games for them solely on their arm? That's not only unrealistic, it's borderline irresponsible to put that kind of pressure solely on a young QB; that's how Kyle Boller failed. Peyton Manning, despite taking his team to the playoffs in his second year, didn't WIN his first playoff game until his SIXTH year in the league; I'll take wins over flashy stats any day, no matter how the wins come. Flacco is on track to develop into a good QB.

[reediddy]

STAY! Otherwise you're gonna have to deal with the likes of Jay Cutler...

[darklight1216]

[quote name='FlaccoIsHot' date='25 January 2010 - 03:41 PM' timestamp='1264452067' post='350868']
When Flacco was drafted it was projected that he was going to be a couple year project qb that would be pretty good in 5 years. In 2 years he has put up great numbers and is on his way to being a great qb in this league. Possibly pro bowl caliber in the next year or two. I'd say a lot of that is b/c of Hue. I really hope he stays to continue Flacco's growth.
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Vince Young and David Garrard are in the pro-bowl. I'd say Flacco is pro-bowl caliber already.

[quote name='bscott57' date='25 January 2010 - 09:53 PM' timestamp='1264474406' post='351116']
Gotta manage games and make plays with the game on the line. Jackson has not taught him how to do this. His stats are meaningless, take Detroit and Chicago out of the equations (460 yds and a 127 passer rating, 5 TD's) and his stats are mediocre at best. I understand these games are important but we had a pretty easy schedule this year to go 10-6. Raiders, Chiefs, Lions, Browns (2x) and even the Bears.
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His stats are meaningless? First his regular season wins and post-season wins are creditted to the 52 other players (anyone except for Flacco) and now his stats are meaningless too? What does a guy have to do to get respect?

[quote name='bscott57' date='26 January 2010 - 12:47 AM' timestamp='1264484856' post='351172']
We played 6 of 11 playoff teams (the other team being us). 7 games vs these teams.

Vikings
Packers
Pats
Colts
Chargers
Bengals

We also played 7 games vs subpar .500 teams, 4 of which were against the worst 3 teams in the AFC.

Our schedule was much more difficult last year.


I am not saying this was all Flacco's fault.

Again what I was saying in this thread is that Hue Jackson was quoted in YahooSports saying that Flacco was better than Aaron Rodgers and took a stab at GB in saying we made it past the first week of the playoffs, and made it sound like Flacco was the reason we won the first week. He sounded arrogant as well as clueless.

I find it very hard to believe Cam cant find a replacement for Jackson if he leaves, he may know a little something about QB's since he had a large part in grooming Brees and Rivers.
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We played nine games against winning opponents. Playoff teams like New York, New England (both 7), Dallas (6), San Diego (5) Philly (5) all played fewer.

The two best teams in the league only had to play six games against winning opponents.

Obviously, we need to work on actually winning those tough games, but we did not by any means have an easy schedule. Only Oakland, Carolina, Miami, and Chicago had to face more winning opponents than the Ravens did.

For the record, we played 8 games against winning opponents last year.

[FlaccoIsHot]

well it looks like Hue has taken the Raider OC job according to espn and pft.

Really hope they bring in someone great to continue Joe's development.

[theFRANCHISE]

As stated above, ESPN and various sources are reporting that Hue Jackson has accepted an offer from the Oakland Raiders to become their new offensive coordinator.

Discuss it [url="http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/18959-report-hue-jackson-to-accept-raiders-oc-job/"]here[/url].