Plain And Simple Reason Why We Lost

[heapitup247]

Its not Billicks fault. Our corners couldnt stop them, thats why we lost.

[smashmouth]

My opinion is we should have did a QB sneak on the 4th and 1, But Billick did the smart thing by kicking the field goal. Think about it, If we ran the ball and diddnt make it,Guess what? we would have lost anyways. Kick the 3 points and take it to overtime. Blame the NFL overtime rules, If a team scores a TD, I think the other team should have 1 turn to try to match there points.

[72Marshall]

I would let Billick go first. I honestly think he is affecting the rest of the Ravens team. I would let Billick go first, play a game, and see how it goes from there. I would let Rex take over for the rest of the season.

Ummm Rex Ryan just got whooped by a team that hasn't won all year, I don't know if you watched the same game I did, but I saw 3rd and 6 be converted the exact same way every time, How do you ask? Oh I don't know receivers wide open in obvious passing plays like the one that won the game. Yeah lets let Rex be the head coach since he's a much better play caller then Billick. No wait, how silly of me. Things went wrong so now it's Billicks fault, I forgot I need to get with the theme of things. Billick gets credit for everything that goes wrong, and anyone else gets the credit for everything that works. Let me make a check list.

Marvin Lewis, won the superbowl.

Rex Ryan gets credit for 55 minutes of the Patriots game, Billick is credited with the final 5.

Ok, I got it now.

[navymarvin]

We are sucking in a lot of different ways this season but one main thing that keeps coming to mind is the play calling. I understand a lot is left up to the players but billick was fussing at the players when they were obviously telling him lets go for it. Second major time this season that a wrong play call/timeout caused a loss. im a raven fan for life but things need to get changed. troy smith looks great imo. play our butts off the next two games and get ready for next year not forgetting to throw out the old furniture if you know what i mean.

[noy]

This game has only managed to support my (and my fellow fans) draft picks, Corner 1st round, O-Line position second round.

The weakness in the o-line is our left guard, Brown. He got blown up constantly by Miami's tackle, it was horrific. Grubbs and Yanda are making mistakes because they are rookies, that is acceptable. Brown has been with us a while.

Corner's weakness is obvious, our backups suck. Our 1st stringers aren't as great as they used to be either, but McAlister is still doing fine. That means, replace Rolle with a 1st rounder, plain and simple.

Johnson needs to be replaced with Barnes permanently, Barnes creates too much pressure to pass up! Kid was amazing.

If any of you are still looking at QB, you'd have to be blind. Troy clearly took the team down field, putting the ball in the right spots and escaping the sacks (and safety!!). If it weren't for him, the game would have been over sooner rather than later.

Fix all that, and you have a pretty decent team.

Btw, there is a SERIOUS issue between the players and Billick. Arguing with him on that 4th down call clearly undermined him as a coach, in effect, telling us they don't respect his play calling at all. Just another reason why Billick doesn't fit the system anymore.

[austrianravensfan]

I hope to see some MAJOR changes, starting tomorrow. Not putting blame on Boller,But he has to go,Cory Ivy has to go,Bart Scott has to go,I think letting Billick go wont have alot of sucess,but maybe it will,Im not so sure it could get any worse then this. Troy Smith should be start this week coming up. O-Line is just letting too many players in the backfield and Boller cant avoid the rush like Smith can.

why do you want scott to go?

[purple_pride]

Ummm Rex Ryan just got whooped by a team that hasn't won all year, I don't know if you watched the same game I did, but I saw 3rd and 6 be converted the exact same way every time, How do you ask? Oh I don't know receivers wide open in obvious passing plays like the one that won the game. Yeah lets let Rex be the head coach since he's a much better play caller then Billick. No wait, how silly of me. Things went wrong so now it's Billicks fault, I forgot I need to get with the theme of things. Billick gets credit for everything that goes wrong, and anyone else gets the credit for everything that works. Let me make a check list.

Marvin Lewis, won the superbowl.

Rex Ryan gets credit for 55 minutes of the Patriots game, Billick is credited with the final 5.

Ok, I got it now.

its not rex rayan fault the conners suk

[schmad27]

I think with the way the Ravens were moving down the field, Billick should have gone for that last yard. We would have scored. Boller should be out. I really like what I see with Troy Smith so far.

[fdmstng99]

This game has only managed to support my (and my fellow fans) draft picks, Corner 1st round, O-Line position second round.

The weakness in the o-line is our left guard, Brown. He got blown up constantly by Miami's tackle, it was horrific. Grubbs and Yanda are making mistakes because they are rookies, that is acceptable. Brown has been with us a while.

Corner's weakness is obvious, our backups suck. Our 1st stringers aren't as great as they used to be either, but McAlister is still doing fine. That means, replace Rolle with a 1st rounder, plain and simple.

Johnson needs to be replaced with Barnes permanently, Barnes creates too much pressure to pass up! Kid was amazing.

If any of you are still looking at QB, you'd have to be blind. Troy clearly took the team down field, putting the ball in the right spots and escaping the sacks (and safety!!). If it weren't for him, the game would have been over sooner rather than later.

Fix all that, and you have a pretty decent team.

Btw, there is a SERIOUS issue between the players and Billick. Arguing with him on that 4th down call clearly undermined him as a coach, in effect, telling us they don't respect his play calling at all. Just another reason why Billick doesn't fit the system anymore.

I agree we need to get a DB in the first round but not an O Lineman in the second. The offensive line right now is young enough as it is. Don't forget that Ogden is on the same side of the line as Brown so you can't just blame Brown.

[austrianravensfan]

Ummm Rex Ryan just got whooped by a team that hasn't won all year, I don't know if you watched the same game I did, but I saw 3rd and 6 be converted the exact same way every time, How do you ask? Oh I don't know receivers wide open in obvious passing plays like the one that won the game. Yeah lets let Rex be the head coach since he's a much better play caller then Billick. No wait, how silly of me. Things went wrong so now it's Billicks fault, I forgot I need to get with the theme of things. Billick gets credit for everything that goes wrong, and anyone else gets the credit for everything that works. Let me make a check list.

Marvin Lewis, won the superbowl.

Rex Ryan gets credit for 55 minutes of the Patriots game, Billick is credited with the final 5.

Ok, I got it now.

i totally agree the defensive playcalls where horrible, i mean the dolphins never mixt their plays:

run threw the tackels

roll right -pass - 1st down

[72Marshall]

My opinion is we should have did a QB sneak on the 4th and 1, But Billick did the smart thing by kicking the field goal. Think about it, If we ran the ball and diddnt make it,Guess what? we would have lost anyways. Kick the 3 points and take it to overtime. Blame the NFL overtime rules, If a team scores a TD, I think the other team should have 1 turn to try to match there points.

I don't like that idea because then we would have too many ties. I do think that each team should get at least one possession. If the team with the first possession scores, the other team should get a possession. But if the team with the first possession doesn't score, then the first team to score wins.

[PuppyPuncher]

Again...if Billick had gone for it and the TD was NOT scored, you'd still be complaining about a loss. So that's a moot point, now isn't it?

And the game was STILL winnable, Stover just missed the field goal. Things happen. Deal with it.

That's a great point. We would have gone for it. Mcgahee up the middle, get's stuffed, game over.

Message board would would have been filled with, "UP THE MIDDLE!", "LET TROY QB SNEAK!", "WE COULD HAVE WON THIS GAME IN OVERTIME!"

[noy]

I agree we need to get a DB in the first round but not an O Lineman in the second. The offensive line right now is young enough as it is. Don't forget that Ogden is on the same side of the line as Brown so you can't just blame Brown.

On the contrary, I do blame Brown quite a bit. Ogden protects the outside rush, we can see it clearly cus the guy is 6'9" pushing people to the ground. That leaves Brown on the inside dealing with a one on one, which he got beat at quite a bit. I'm not sure but his guy was the only lineman to get a sack on Miami's side.

[72Marshall]

We are sucking in a lot of different ways this season but one main thing that keeps coming to mind is the play calling. I understand a lot is left up to the players but billick was fussing at the players when they were obviously telling him lets go for it. Second major time this season that a wrong play call/timeout caused a loss. im a raven fan for life but things need to get changed. troy smith looks great imo. play our butts off the next two games and get ready for next year not forgetting to throw out the old furniture if you know what i mean.

It actually worked the way it was supposed to, we got the ball back in over time and went to for the field goal, but it was wide left. The problem is we have no defensive depth in the secondary, this is the second week in a row they got torched and cost us the game.

[Sam]

That's a great point. We would have gone for it. Mcgahee up the middle, get's stuffed, game over.

Message board would would have been filled with, "UP THE MIDDLE!", "LET TROY QB SNEAK!", "WE COULD HAVE WON THIS GAME IN OVERTIME!"

You try 1 short pass & then kick the field goal. With 12 seconds you don;t run - but a short pass & if it doesnt work - kick then & tie!

[PuppyPuncher]

You try 1 short pass & then kick the field goal. With 12 seconds you don;t run - but a short pass & if it doesnt work - kick then & tie!

We don't get 5 downs.

[navymarvin]

It actually worked the way it was supposed to, we got the ball back in over time and went to for the field goal, but it was wide left. The problem is we have no defensive depth in the secondary, this is the second week in a row they got torched and cost us the game.

It obviously didnt work we they took another L. Not trying to argue just dont like to see things like that just as any other Raven Fan.

[Foreverfan]

Hey all,,, first post here,,, probably start some stuff,,, BUT Sorry Kyle,, take the rest of the season off,,, start Troy. No pressure on him. NOW is the time.

Tom

[theFRANCHISE]

You try 1 short pass & then kick the field goal. With 12 seconds you don;t run - but a short pass & if it doesnt work - kick then & tie!

Only problem with that is, even if there WAS another down available, with a rookie QB, there's a more likely chance of throwing a pick in the endzone, even if you tell him to throw the ball up high.

Plus, if he gets sacked or the play is botched, then the boo-birds would come out in full effect even more on these message boards and there'd be more negativity.

Either way, this is all just a bunch of what-if scenarios, and though I can see your logic and it's perfectly understandable, it's just dwelling on the what-if's and the past, when we all just need to take it for what it is. The call ended up being the right one in that we were still in a position to win in OT, and we just didn't seize it because Stover missed, plain and simple.

[72Marshall]

We cant keep mourning this loss and need to take a step forward. Here is that step; sign this petition.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/new-coach...back-new-ravens

What, are we in pre-school now? Grow up.

[smashmouth]

why do you want scott to go?

Bart Scott gets beat by tight ends and running backs as much Cory Ivy gets beat, He played well last year, this year he is doing well in the run and pass rush, but he is terrable in pass coverage, Jarret Johnson is just as bad, I think AD's leaving hurt this team more then people will admit.

[Ravenator]

What, are we in pre-school now? Grow up.

Sorry that I don't like watching the Ravens lose like this the entire season because of stupid mistakes.

[Ravens549]

Ummm Rex Ryan just got whooped by a team that hasn't won all year, I don't know if you watched the same game I did, but I saw 3rd and 6 be converted the exact same way every time, How do you ask? Oh I don't know receivers wide open in obvious passing plays like the one that won the game. Yeah lets let Rex be the head coach since he's a much better play caller then Billick. No wait, how silly of me. Things went wrong so now it's Billicks fault, I forgot I need to get with the theme of things. Billick gets credit for everything that goes wrong, and anyone else gets the credit for everything that works. Let me make a check list.

Marvin Lewis, won the superbowl.

Rex Ryan gets credit for 55 minutes of the Patriots game, Billick is credited with the final 5.

Ok, I got it now.

Yes, but did you know Rex is Buddy's son?

That's all they talk about on t.v.

Seems like a name pulls more weight than what you place on the field.

[Ravens549]

Johnson needs to be replaced with Barnes permanently, Barnes creates too much pressure to pass up! Kid was amazing.

Another member who agrees that Johnson needs to sit. He is standing around watching plays entirely too much imo.

[smashmouth]

Yea it was sad.. But as a steeler fan dont you have your own things to worry about? seeing as how the Jags ran it down you alls throat?By the way Go browns for the divsion!!

*edit* lol they took out the steelers fan message and my quote off his.

[fdmstng99]

On the contrary, I do blame Brown quite a bit. Ogden protects the outside rush, we can see it clearly cus the guy is 6'9" pushing people to the ground. That leaves Brown on the inside dealing with a one on one, which he got beat at quite a bit. I'm not sure but his guy was the only lineman to get a sack on Miami's side.

The O line as a whole wasn't very good today. Jason Taylor was in the backfield all day until he left the game with a foot injury then when he came back in he really didn't do anything. The O line is still young and they need more snaps to get in sync with each other. Flynn might not be coming back so Adam Terry may be at center next year then Ogden may retire. The entire O line has plenty of potential but they are still young. I still think the Ravens need to add depth to the defense in the draft. Maybe later in the draft go for an O lineman but they should mainly go for defense in the first couple rounds. JMO!!

[52fan]

It's always hard to play your best when key figures are out of the game...HEAP..McCallister..for 2. But when you are questioning the calls 3 weeks in a row???? You have no faith in leadership??? THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME MAJOR CHANGES NEXT YEAR. Hopefully the "higher-ups" get the message.

[fdmstng99]

It's always hard to play your best when key figures are out of the game...HEAP..McCallister..for 2. But when you are questioning the calls 3 weeks in a row???? You have no faith in leadership??? THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME MAJOR CHANGES NEXT YEAR. Hopefully the "higher-ups" get the message.

Loosing to a team that hasn't won all year should be a very loud message.

[bigmacattack2123]

Just so you all know I'm gonna do my best not to drop the f-bomb on billick at this very moment...yea our corners suck and there is no doubt in my mind that we would have won that game by a landslide with troy playing (provided with several 3 n outs and an interception by boller in the second half as opposed to 1:53 no timeouts = points on the board after chillin on the sideline all game from smith) and thats what this comes down to...billick again saving his beloved boller's starting position by restraining troy from throwing the ball on 3rd n long to get us into gimme fg position. Because when it came to calling that play he wasn't thinking about winning the game he was thinking - damn i can't let troy be THE ONE to get us that first down and the win cuz then I'd have to be hounded by fans and media if I don't bench my daughter's bf. well boo freaking hoo billick i hope you are happy now that you embarrassed us just to save the hide of boller AGAIN-----There are a million reasons why we lost but and I'm okay with most of them you have to accept it but this d-bag duo makes me want to vommit. I didn't enjoy a split second of that game until Troy got in. Troy is our future and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up slashing billicks tires even though he's got the greatest pride and personality on our team. Just because billick WOULD NOT ALLOW him to win the game for us.

[athena raven]

Just so you all know I'm gonna do my best not to drop the f-bomb on billick at this very moment...yea our corners suck and there is no doubt in my mind that we would have won that game by a landslide with troy playing (provided with several 3 n outs and an interception by boller in the second half as opposed to 1:53 no timeouts = points on the board after chillin on the sideline all game from smith) and thats what this comes down to...billick again saving his beloved boller's starting position by restraining troy from throwing the ball on 3rd n long to get us into gimme fg position. Because when it came to calling that play he wasn't thinking about winning the game he was thinking - damn i can't let troy be THE ONE to get us that first down and the win cuz then I'd have to be hounded by fans and media if I don't bench my daughter's bf. well boo freaking hoo billick i hope you are happy now that you embarrassed us just to save the hide of boller AGAIN-----There are a million reasons why we lost but and I'm okay with most of them you have to accept it but this d-bag duo makes me want to vommit. I didn't enjoy a split second of that game until Troy got in. Troy is our future and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up slashing billicks tires even though he's got the greatest pride and personality on our team. Just because billick WOULD NOT ALLOW him to win the game for us.

Awesome!!! You said it better than me dude!!!