Merged: T.O. to B-More Idea

[Ravens_Fan13]

I know this is am ongoing topic has been for a while now the cards are in place for this to happen and i honestly think it will. Owens is a proven guy in this league and is a competitor with his age he has calmed down alot. But people say he blows of at the mouth blah blah blah the man has fire and intensity in my mind thats what i want in a guy and besides he could be an easy aquisition abd a good one. Not to metntion is Mason comes back and im sure we will do some hunting all i know is i would be shocked if our wr corpse looks the same fact is we are about to see a big change...However i would love to see K-dub return im just affraid he will ask for a rediculous salary that hes not worth. Thoughts as always more than welcome.

[Mick0311]

I'm going to have a hard time reconciling this if it happens. I just don't like the guy, don't like his attitude. Obviously, I will cheer for my team, him included if need be, but it is going to take some getting used to

[DocMartin]

T.O. who? I don't know what you smoking over there, but there is no way T.O. aka T.Blow is coming here. I wouldn't want him to play for Ravens, even if it was for free??!! Last time I heard he was on his way to Canada to play CFL for Eskymos, lol. No team in NFL would want him, not even Detroit Lions.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='DocMartin' date='21 January 2010 - 05:21 PM' timestamp='1264116108' post='348675']
T.O. who? I don't know what you smoking over there, but there is no way T.O. aka T.Blow is coming here. I wouldn't want him to play for Ravens, even if it was for free??!! Last time I heard he was on his way to Canada to play CFL for Eskymos, lol. No team in NFL would want him, not even Detroit Lions.

[/quote]
No chance he comes here, he could came in 04 and we woulda went to the ship but that dirtbag somehow got the NFLPA to let him out of the trade.

Is he actually coming to Canada lol?

[20ReedsAll]

I would be quite angry if our "solution" to the WR problem was getting TO. Yes hes proven, but to me, hes way past his prime. Hes way to inconsistent and drops to many passes. The thing with some of these older great WRs, like TO and Randy Moss, is that they take plays off and sometimes jog routes when they think they wont get the ball or wont get open on a particular play. I want a guy that hustles and works hard, and doesnt have a history of already saying nay to the Ravens, might I add.

My dream scenario would be to have either Brandon Marshall or Vincent Jackson, but given the final 8 rules and our conservative front office, I don't see it happening. Anquan Boldin has gone down in my books as of late because hes constantly injured. Some reasonable pick ups that I wouldn't at all mind are Malcom Floyd, Antonio Bryant, or Steve Breaston. I really, really like Antonio Bryant and Malcom Floyd...have great potential, great size, and make spectacular down field catches. Steve Breaston is, to me, more of a taller possession receiver. Knowing the Ravens, and their tendency to sign washed up veteran wide receivers, we'll probably end up signing a TO, Kevin Walter, or Mushin Muhammad (though I wouldnt mind Walter).

I would be very pleased if we go into next year with Marshall, Jackson, Floyd, Bryant, or Breaston...not TO.

[theFRANCHISE]

The old argument in support of Terrell Owens used to be that his talent outweighed his mouth.

However, Owens doesn't even have that anymore. His age is starting to show and his speed isn't where it once was. I doubt that he could even be as effective of a possession receiver as Derrick Mason was last year.

T.O. isn't worth the headache nor the risk.

[20ReedsAll]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='21 January 2010 - 06:35 PM' timestamp='1264116952' post='348687']
The old argument in support of Terrell Owens used to be that his talent outweighed his mouth.

However, Owens doesn't even have that anymore. His age is starting to show and his speed isn't where it once was. I doubt that he could even be as effective of a possession receiver as Derrick Mason was last year.

T.O. isn't worth the headache nor the risk.
[/quote]
Agree a 100%...he has terrible hands as of late. Not worth it at all unless he wants like $100,000 a year lol.

[1/28/01]

please, please oh please let these threads die!!!!!

[20ReedsAll]

We need to implement a new rule...if you don't like whats being discussed in a thread, or have nothing positive to contribute, stay out of it. Tired of people comin in and wanting threads to "die". Not trying to be mean, I'm just tired of meaningless whining.

[ROCNRAVEN]

T.O. had his chance to come here to Baltimore and "HE" refused to do so.. Now if you take a look at the teams over the years that signed him, history shows that none of those teams have won a superbowl.. Lets even put his attitude aside for this topic, cause at the end of the day he still seemed to have put up remarkable numbers for those teams. Problem is this... It seems like with his talent alone that he brought to those teams should have produced atleast a ring or two and they didn't, so what makes fans here think that at this age/point of his life he would do so now? What we need is a team player, not a guy "STILL" looking for his own personal spot light... So as I quoted Jay Z on the home page I'll Sing It Again... [img]http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/public/style_emoticons/default/ICONATOR_01040da29c18a4eed76047129ab4a29d.gif[/img] T.O.?? "H to the E-zoe double LL to the N.OOO"........ [img]http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/public/style_emoticons/default/ICONATOR_01040da29c18a4eed76047129ab4a29d.gif[/img]

[1/28/01]

[quote name='20ReedsAll' date='21 January 2010 - 06:48 PM' timestamp='1264117708' post='348697']
We need to implement a new rule...if you don't like whats being discussed in a thread, or have nothing positive to contribute, stay out of it. Tired of people comin in and wanting threads to "die". Not trying to be mean, I'm just tired of meaningless whining.
[/quote]
hang on for a sec......so, you're whining about people whining, but our whining is to help clean the boards up and stop all the REPEAT threads that are pointless and in most cases make no sense - i.e. - trade Smith for Mashall, bring in TO etc......

[Samari]

As somebody who lives in Buffalo, I was able to witness T.O. for the Bills better than most Ravens fans and he really was not a problem with the team. He didn't run his mouth to the media, didn't complain, and in reality, was in a pretty shi**y situation for a player of his caliber and age. He would be great for Baltimore because he just wants to win now and Baltimore is a team that is a player like T.O. away from the next level. The problem in Dallas was that there was little to no veteran leadership on that team. He didn't have problems in Buffalo where there wasn't much veteran leadership either. So if he's in Baltimore with Ray Ray, Ed, Birk, Pryce and Heap as leaders in the locker room, he should have no troubles.

[MsMarvel73]

Sorry RavensFan13...your wish will not come true. Were you a Ravens fan when we tried to acquire TO?...when he ditched us and dissed us and went to Philly?

Like I said in ANOTHER thread, Ozzie won't let TO BREATHE on a Ravens uniform let alone WEAR one after that. Besides, he's a cancer....we don't need a diva on this team.

[Ed_Reed20]

I've always been a fan of T.O. but I think him coming here would be 6 seasons too late. He isn't as explosive as he used to be and frequently drops balls.

I was pleasantly surprised he didn't blow up at all in Buffalo this year but I just don't see him coming here.

[AZravensfan]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='21 January 2010 - 04:35 PM' timestamp='1264116952' post='348687']
The old argument in support of Terrell Owens used to be that his talent outweighed his mouth.

However, Owens doesn't even have that anymore. His age is starting to show and his speed isn't where it once was. I doubt that he could even be as effective of a possession receiver as Derrick Mason was last year.

T.O. isn't worth the headache nor the risk.
[/quote]


This is the way I feel to. Back in the day his talent might have outweighed his mouth, but that just isn't the case anymore. He really isn't worth bringing in now because unlike Mason I really do not want the younger WR's we draft or already have trying to look up to him.

[BirdWatcher]

[quote name='20ReedsAll' date='21 January 2010 - 06:48 PM' timestamp='1264117708' post='348697']
We need to implement a new rule...if you don't like whats being discussed in a thread, or have nothing positive to contribute, stay out of it. Tired of people comin in and wanting threads to "die". Not trying to be mean, I'm just tired of meaningless whining.
[/quote]

He's got a good point. If you don't reply to a thread, it'll "die" on its own.

[KyKobra]

I would hate T.O to the Ravens
I'd rather have a happy team then a good team with a bad attitude

[wvravensfan]

I agree if Ozzie and Company thinks the "solution" to our WR problems is T.O. then there's something wrong...This guy might be good but he sure aint great no more and this team deserves greatness at WR....As a fan i am speaking for all that we deserve to see greatness at WR and not settle for half a$$ talent and hear the same thing in the off season---"We have great confidence in our WR corp., and we believe that they will be as tough as any one out there, They have great character"...OK im glad that we follow character but eventually your going to have to take talent over character unless this team wants the same thing to happen for years to come...Make the playoffs lose, and keep the same guys for the next season and think that they are going to be a lot better because of their character...Ima huge Ozzie fan and the way he thinks and drafts but this off season Talent better step up before character (BRANDON MARSHALL) ray Lewis will straigthen him up....

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='wvravensfan' date='21 January 2010 - 08:17 PM' timestamp='1264123048' post='348763']
I agree if Ozzie and Company thinks the "solution" to our WR problems is T.O. then there's something wrong...This guy might be good but he sure aint great no more and this team deserves greatness at WR....As a fan i am speaking for all that we deserve to see greatness at WR and not settle for half a$$ talent and hear the same thing in the off season---"We have great confidence in our WR corp., and we believe that they will be as tough as any one out there, They have great character"...OK im glad that we follow character but eventually your going to have to take talent over character unless this team wants the same thing to happen for years to come...Make the playoffs lose, and keep the same guys for the next season and think that they are going to be a lot better because of their character...Ima huge Ozzie fan and the way he thinks and drafts but this off season Talent better step up before character [b](BRANDON MARSHALL) ray Lewis will straigthen him up....[/b]
[/quote]

That's where you're wrong. Except on teams like Dallas, there are leaders in almost every NFL locker. However, that doesn't stop knuckleheads from acting up and acting a fool off the field.

[KyKobra]

[quote name='Moderator 3' date='21 January 2010 - 07:39 PM' timestamp='1264120772' post='348743']
He's got a good point. If you don't reply to a thread, it'll "die" on its own.
[/quote]
Yeah i get your point but should't it be anything NOT about the topic?
Back to the subject
T.O Is a good recevier BUT would you really want him i mean i can go without the playoffs for a year

[wvravensfan]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='21 January 2010 - 09:20 PM' timestamp='1264123231' post='348767']
That's where you're wrong. Except on teams like Dallas, there are leaders in almost every NFL locker. However, that doesn't stop knuckleheads from acting up and acting a fool off the field.
[/quote]
Ok your right about that but do you agree with me about getting sick of hearing the same thing year after year and following character on EVERY player lol??

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='wvravensfan' date='21 January 2010 - 08:23 PM' timestamp='1264123398' post='348769']
Ok your right about that but do you agree with me about getting sick of hearing the same thing year after year and following character on EVERY player lol??
[/quote]

Every NFL team in the league stresses character. The last thing you want is to pay a player on for him to be unable to play because he got arrested.

And despite having problems at receiver issues and other positions, this team has gone to and advanced in the play-offs two years in a row. Not many teams can say that.

Obviously this team needs more production from the receiver position but let's no pretend that that position alone would get this team over the top.

[UD Ravens Fan]

But T.O. and Joe would make a really fantastic pair. Can you imagine the chemistry between them? (sic)

[KyKobra]

[quote name='UD Ravens Fan' date='21 January 2010 - 09:06 PM' timestamp='1264125976' post='348793']
But T.O. and Joe would make a really fantastic pair. Can you imagine the chemistry between them? (sic)
[/quote]
And the attitude between him and everyone else?

[theFRANCHISE]

In a way, we can look at this as football karma coming back to bite T.O.

He refused to come to Baltimore and found a loophole to get him to Philly. He had one of the best seasons of his career but got hurt, missed the playoffs, came back to play in the Super Bowl, had one of the best performances in Super Bowl history, and still lost. Then he's unceremoniously booted from Philly and lands in Dallas two years later, where he falls short of the Super Bowl every season due to Romo choking in the most spectacular of fashions; before that playoff game, how often did a holder on a field goal attempt, mishandle the snap in such dramatic fashion? Then he's booted from Dallas unceremoniously and garners little-to-no interest in free agency before finally settling on Buffalo as his last resort, for a contract much below what he was used to getting. And in a manner befitting T.O., he wallows in obscurity (no offense to Buffalo fans) and had a forgettable season while battling injuries.

And now, in the twilight of his career, Terrell Owens is in need of a new team, and the one team in need of a new receiver in Baltimore, likely won't bite.

Terrell Owens got what he deserved.

[Jamal]

[quote name='Samari' date='21 January 2010 - 07:28 PM' timestamp='1264120092' post='348730']
As somebody who lives in Buffalo, I was able to witness T.O. for the Bills better than most Ravens fans and he really was not a problem with the team. He didn't run his mouth to the media, didn't complain, and in reality, was in a pretty shi**y situation for a player of his caliber and age. He would be great for Baltimore because he just wants to win now and Baltimore is a team that is a player like T.O. away from the next level. The problem in Dallas was that there was little to no veteran leadership on that team. He didn't have problems in Buffalo where there wasn't much veteran leadership either. So if he's in Baltimore with Ray Ray, Ed, Birk, Pryce and Heap as leaders in the locker room, he should have no troubles.
[/quote]
He was quiet because he knew the team was bad. No point in complaining.

If he came to a team like ours, who is a contender, I think he would become vocal again.

[hhlowlow]

I personally wouldn't mind T.O coming to bmore for a year or so. He wants to win a superbowl as well as Ed and Mason. He still has speed, watch his 99 yard reception...and we all know about his physical attributes

[ravens27]

[quote name='hhlowlow' date='21 January 2010 - 10:05 PM' timestamp='1264129553' post='348827']
I personally wouldn't mind T.O coming to bmore for a year or so. He wants to win a superbowl as well as Ed and Mason. He still has speed, watch his 99 yard reception...and we all know about his physical attributes
[/quote]

I think we could do better. I don't know if Owens is the kind of guy Flacco needs.

[D_UP]

Goin after t.o. Would be like gettin dissed by a chick for another guy then she gets old and past her prime he dumps her then u come runnin after to see if she's lowered her standards enough to be with you...lol in other words no t.o. The last thing u need is that fool tryin to intimidate flacco while stunting his growth as a qb

[20ReedsAll]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='21 January 2010 - 08:20 PM' timestamp='1264123231' post='348767']
That's where you're wrong. Except on teams like Dallas, there are leaders in almost every NFL locker. However, that doesn't stop knuckleheads from acting up and acting a fool off the field.
[/quote]
I agree. While Brian Dawkins isn't to Denver as Ray Lewis is to Baltimore, theoretically, Dawkins "should" have straightened up Marshall...but he didn't. With that said, I'd still love to have Marshall in Baltimore lol.