Ravens Cornerback Stats

[darklight1216]

Football Outsiders published their "Stats of the Day" and a couple of Ravens made the list. The first category will probably surprise no one.

There were no Ravens in the top 15 of penalized players (number 9 might surpise you) however, Baltimore cornerbacks excelled in making the most out of their penalties.

Penalty Yardage Leaders:

1) Marcus Trufant, SEA (9 for 133)
2) Tramon "Admiral Armbar" Williams, GB (6 for 124)
[color="#4B0082"]3) Frank Walker, BAL (9 for 97)[/color]
4) Flozell Adams, DAL (13 for 95)
5) Corey Webster, NYG (7 for 89)
6) Andrew Whitworth, CIN (13 for 87))
[color="#4B0082"]7) Domonique Foxworth, BAL (6 for 84)[/color]
8t) Andre Goodman, DEN (4 for 83)
8t) Quincy Butler, STL (5 for 83)
10t) Alex Barron, STL (14 for 80)
10t) Antonio Smith, HOU (8 for 80)

"I had a reader specifically ask who led the league in Defensive Pass Interference. This wasn't even close in 2009. Marcus Trufant had seven DPIs for 128 yards. Nobody else had more than four. The players with four were Tramon Williams (109 yards), Frank Walker (74), Domonique Foxworth (74), Dunta Robinson (61), Ron Bartell (56), and Brent Grimes (44 yards)."
http://footballoutsiders.com/extra-points/2010/stat-day-most-penalties

I was so sure that Frank Walker was in a league of his own. I guess he's not as bad I thought.

FO also tracked the performance of pass tackling cornerbacks. Here's a quick explanation of their stats: A "stop" is a tackle that prevents a player from getting 40% of the yardage needed for a first down, 60% needed for second, and 100% needed on third and fourth down.

Top 10 CB Making Stops on Complete Passes, 2009
Player Team Stops
31-R.Marshall CAR 20
32-O.Scandrick DAL 19
33-C.Tillman CHI 18
20-N.Harper TEN 16
23-C.Griffin MIN 16
24-T.Thomas NYG 16
[color="#4B0082"]24-D.Foxworth BAL 15 [/color]
24-S.Brown PHI 15
21-C.Woodson GB 15
Five tied with 14

Now you might be wondering about the guys like Nnamdi, who don't have as many opportunities to make tackles because quarterbacks have simply stopped throwing passes their way. Here are the corners with the best stop percentage:

Top 10 CB Stop Rate on Complete Passes, 2009
(min. 15 tackles after receptions)
Player Team Plays Stops Stop Rate
22-C.Jackson ATL 19 9 47%
21-N.Asomugha OAK 15 7 47%
32-O.Scandrick DAL 42 19 45%
21-J.Hanson PHI 31 14 45%
22-A.Samuel PHI 30 13 43%
21-C.Woodson GB 37 15 41%
24-S.Brown PHI 39 15 38%
41-C.Munnerlyn CAR 30 11 37%
[color="#4B0082"]24-D.Foxworth BAL 41 15 37%[/color]
24-T.Thomas NYG 44 16 36%
http://footballoutsiders.com/extra-points/2010/stat-day-pass-tackles-cornerbacks-0
I don't know if this will change anyone's opinion of one of our maligned cornerbacks, but it's kind of interesting. Maybe Foxworth wasn't as quite as overpaid as many people thought.

[Ed_Reed20]

These statistics were interesting. Foxworth's game definitely improved across the board as the season wore on. He was definitely better in coverage and made a number of big tackles in run support as well.

We'll see how he improves next year.

Walker played some fine football in the play-offs but I'll be surprised if he's here next year.

[ravens27]

Oh Frank....

[BMOREHAWAII]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='21 January 2010 - 10:04
I was so sure that Frank Walker was in a league of his own. I guess he's not as bad I thought .
[/quote]

The difference between those cornerbacks is that Frank is a back-up and had seen less playing time....

[noy]

I think Foxworth committed most of those penalties at the beginning of the season, because he really improved towards the end. Seriously, we may have overpaid him a little, but if he starts the same way he ended for next year, I'm sold.

I still have the vivid image of his half ****** attempt at a tackle and the receiver running for another 30 yards...what a blemish, at least he has recovery speed!!

[BuckWilds]

Enlightening compilation of information Dark. Thanks for putting it up.

[RavensClaw52]

Hmmm, interesting....Me like.

[FlaccoFlicker]

i thought Foxy played well alot of the time I just wish on whatever down and short he would play the receiver a little tight but he made alot of tackles as the ball was caught

[jravens13]

Foxworth has great cover skills... he just cant tackle big WR's very effectively and isn't the best in jump ball situations. Webb was our best corner when he was healthy. Frank played fairly well late in the season and in the playoffs. I almost feel the refs know who gets a lot of Interference, Illegal Contact, and Holding penalties called against them and look at them closer than the average player.

[52Kia Kaha92]

i read a stat taht said over the last 8 weeks of the season we had the best pass defense in the NFL. Foxy was a big part of that. He started badly but he is a very good cover corner and should be a very good #2 or a passable #1. We are set for the starting corner spots and Chris Carr actually turned out to be a very good nickel aswell after an awful start

[Valentin]

[quote name='52Kia Kaha92' date='23 January 2010 - 06:30 PM' timestamp='1264289447' post='349734']
i read a stat taht said over the last 8 weeks of the season we had the best pass defense in the NFL. Foxy was a big part of that. He started badly but he is a very good cover corner and should be a very good #2 or a passable #1. We are set for the starting corner spots and Chris Carr actually turned out to be a very good nickel aswell after an awful start
[/quote]

Carr's a solid tackler too, whenever he let up a pass he usually stuck on to the guy and made sure he went down.

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='Zhamtao' date='22 January 2010 - 07:06 PM' timestamp='1264205161' post='349232']
Enlightening compilation of information Dark. Thanks for putting it up.


[/quote]

Apparently thanking someone for putting up some interesting data is a -1...

Thanks for the data anyway.

[justifythegame]

The issue is Fabian Washington and Frank Walker. Foxworth made a ton of mistakes this year and deserves a lot of the criticisms he gets, and that because he is a #2 CB, borderline #1 playing against good receivers, but just because i think he isn't a #1 doesn't mean he shouldn't be on the field. The problem is the #2 and #3 CBs who shouldn't be allowed on the field. Frank Walker is terrible, but he ain't half as bad as Washington. Sure Washington can outrun anyone in a race to the endzone, but thats not how you play CB, he allowed too many huge plays that cost us this season. Even he himself admitted he was terrible. And at least Walker can make a hit on people on short routes. Our CB play improved drastically when Washington got injured and Webb got more playing time at #2. Now webb might not even play next season, and even if he does we need depth at an injury prone position. CB has to be addressed. If we can get a true #1 CB and move Foxworth over to #2 we are set.

[FerrariFan87]

Foxworth is a very cerebral corner, an aspect of his game which has been under appreciated. He's obviously a very hard worker as well considering the vast improvement we saw after the Bye. With Fox, Webb and Washington (assuming the latter two recover from their respective knee injuries), we should be in pretty decent shape on the outside.

[justifythegame]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' date='25 January 2010 - 02:05 PM' timestamp='1264446342' post='350781']
Foxworth is a very cerebral corner, an aspect of his game which has been under appreciated. He's obviously a very hard worker as well considering the vast improvement we saw after the Bye. With Fox, Webb and Washington (assuming the latter two recover from their respective knee injuries), we should be in pretty decent shape on the outside.
[/quote]
He is a cerebral CB. He is a cerebral guy in general too. He is actually a very good character too if you take some time to learn about him. He fits the description of exactly what Harbaugh looks for in his players. My problem is only that he doesn't have the pure physical talent that you want in a #1.

[darklight1216]

Update: FO unleashed their total CB ranks. Here are the worst cornerbacks in league based on success rate in passing. For those who don't remeber, FO's success rate is the percentage of passes that don't manage to get at least 45 percent of needed yards on first down, 60 percent of needed yards on second down, or 100 percent of needed yards on third down.

The worst are:

Bottom 10 Cornerbacks in Success Rate, 2009 (data as of 2/3/10)
Player Team Success Rate Rank
20-N.Harper TEN 38% 70
23-M.Trufant SEA 40% 69
23-T.Jennings IND 42% 68
21-V.Davis MIA 43% 67
24-R.Bartell STL 43% 66
[color="#4B0082"]31-F.Washington BAL 43% 65[/color]
23-C.Houston ATL 43% 64
26-K.Hayden IND 44% 63
27-M.Jenkins NO 44% 62
35-Z.Bowman CHI 44% 61

Yards per pass is pretty self explanatory.
Bottom ten in yards per pass:

Player Team Yards per pass Rank
21-V.Davis MIA 12.6 70
[color="#4B0082"]31-F.Washington BAL 11.6 69 [/color]
24-S.Smith MIA 10.1 68
27-M.Jenkins NO 10.0 67
22-B.McDonald CLE 9.7 66
23-M.Trufant SEA 9.6 65
24-R.Bartell STL 9.5 64
24-J.Wilhite NE 9.4 63
21-D.Cox JAC 9.2 62
20-N.Harper TEN 8.8 61

Ten worst yards after catch allowed and rank:
22-B.McDonald CLE 7.0 70
[color="#4B0082"]31-F.Washington BAL 6.4 69 [/color]
27-M.Jenkins NO 6.4 68
21-V.Davis MIA 6.0 67
22-A.Samuel PHI 5.6 66
23-C.Griffin MIN 5.5 65
20-C.Gamble CAR 5.0 64
24-S.Brown PHI 4.9 63
23-M.Trufant SEA 4.9 62
22-T.Porter NO 4.9 61
http://footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2010/stat-day-2009-cb-charting-stats-ii

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times for the Ravens cornerbacks. All this time I've been criticizing Chris Carr and calling him the worst cornerback in the league, and he wasn't even the worst corner on his team. >.<

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I haven't forgiven Fabian since he was burned for the improbable long TD by Holmes last Season.

[Ed_Reed20]

After seeing those statistics, I don't feel there is any reason for the team to bring back Fabian. If they must field Foxworth, Carr and two rookies next year, so be it. Even though they run a different D, the Colts fielded rookie CBs this year and still played fine defense.

[McBurks]

Foxworth did pretty good as the year went on,Fabian needs to get his act together,and Frank Walker.....is Frank Walker.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Simba' date='05 February 2010 - 07:58 PM' timestamp='1265417887' post='355913']
Foxworth did pretty good as the year went on,Fabian needs to get his act together,and Frank Walker.....is Frank Walker.
[/quote]

Fabian needs to get to steppin' in my opinion. He was solid last year but got victimized repeatedly this year before going down. He rarely grabs INTs and offers little in run support. Why keep him?

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='05 February 2010 - 08:07 PM' timestamp='1265418456' post='355918']
Fabian needs to get to steppin' in my opinion. He was solid last year but got victimized repeatedly this year before going down. He rarely grabs INTs and offers little in run support. Why keep him?
[/quote]
Very true. In the beginning, I was happy that he was brought in. I figured a pure cover CB wouldn't fit in too bad in a defense than can overpower the majority of the league, so his lack of run support wouldn't be much of a liability. Wrong. And his covering abilities have been absolutely terrible this Season. Even in the game he was injured, he was burned on the very first drive by Garcon. However, I would still rather have him remain for depth if we don't draft a CB in the earlier rounds, if possible. If we could resign him for a small salary, I wouldn't mind keeping him around.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='LosT_in_TranSlatioN' date='05 February 2010 - 08:53 PM' timestamp='1265421205' post='355935']
Very true. In the beginning, I was happy that he was brought in. I figured a pure cover CB wouldn't fit in too bad in a defense than can overpower the majority of the league, so his lack of run support wouldn't be much of a liability. Wrong. And his covering abilities have been absolutely terrible this Season. Even in the game he was injured, he was burned on the very first drive by Garcon. However, I would still rather have him remain for depth if we don't draft a CB in the earlier rounds, if possible. If we could resign him for a small salary, I wouldn't mind keeping him around.
[/quote]

Re-signing him for depth could work.

[ryan23945]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='05 February 2010 - 06:07 PM' timestamp='1265418456' post='355918']
Fabian needs to get to steppin' in my opinion. He was solid last year but got victimized repeatedly this year before going down. He rarely grabs INTs and offers little in run support. Why keep him?
[/quote]


cuz he can run like the wind hahaha, sometimes he never loses his man but his arms r flailing and his head is spinning like a top and he has no idea where the ball is, but hes so darn fast his man is in his back pocket, of course the ball is completed and he cant taackle worth a ****...but i digress