2010 Free Agent Wide Receivers

[DW714]

I think that everyone agrees that we need to sign some receivers in the offseason. That includes a tight end, which is a position that we have no depth in right now. I'm hoping that we'll draft TE Gresham in the first round and he can learn from Todd Heap just like Heap learned from Shannon Sharpe years ago.

Hopefully in the 2nd round, we can pick up a big-play wide receiver. Since 2010 will probably be an uncapped season, players like Brandon Marshall, Lee Evans, Vincent Jackson, and Braylon Edwards will not become free agents like they are supposed to. So the only way to get those guys would be to trade for them. I don't see that happening. To get someone like Brandon Marshall, we would have to give up a valuable draft pick(s). Therefore, the only other option would be to go after 2nd-tier free agent wide receivers. There are four in particular that have caught my eye. They are Kevin Walter from Houston, Antonio Bryant from Tampa, Bobby Wade from Kansas City, and Michael Jenkins from Atlanta. There are all around 27 or 28 years old and with the exception of Wade, all of them are 6-1 or taller. I think getting one of these guys in addition to a playmaking WR in the draft would be a big boost to our Super Bowl chances in 2010. This is especially
true if Mason comes back. Mason is dependable, but we need a receiver across from him that can catch more than 34 receptions in a season like Mark Clayton did. I like Clayton as a man, but as a player he has overall been a disappointment since we drafted him. What do you all think? If we had to sign a free agent WR, who would it be? Walter, Bryant, Wade, or Jenkins?

[ZIBBY28]

[quote name='DW714' date='20 January 2010 - 07:00 PM' timestamp='1264032008' post='347930']
I think that everyone agrees that we need to sign some receivers in the offseason. That includes a tight end, which is a position that we have no depth in right now. I'm hoping that we'll draft TE Gresham in the first round and he can learn from Todd Heap just like Heap learned from Shannon Sharpe years ago.

Hopefully in the 2nd round, we can pick up a big-play wide receiver. Since 2010 will probably be an uncapped season, players like Brandon Marshall, Lee Evans, Vincent Jackson, and Braylon Edwards will not become free agents like they are supposed to. So the only way to get those guys would be to trade for them. I don't see that happening. To get someone like Brandon Marshall, we would have to give up a valuable draft pick(s). Therefore, the only other option would be to go after 2nd-tier free agent wide receivers. There are four in particular that have caught my eye. They are Kevin Walter from Houston, Antonio Bryant from Tampa, Bobby Wade from Kansas City, and Michael Jenkins from Atlanta. There are all around 27 or 28 years old and with the exception of Wade, all of them are 6-1 or taller. I think getting one of these guys in addition to a playmaking WR in the draft would be a big boost to our Super Bowl chances in 2010. This is especially
true if Mason comes back. Mason is dependable, but we need a receiver across from him that can catch more than 34 receptions in a season like Mark Clayton did. I like Clayton as a man, but as a player he has overall been a disappointment since we drafted him. What do you all think? If we had to sign a free agent WR, who would it be? Walter, Bryant, Wade, or Jenkins?
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Lee Evans signed a 4 year deal last year... I'm not sure where you're getting your info, but he wasn't scheduled to be a FA, anyway... just FYI

But to answer your question, I'd say none of the above. I really like Malcom Floyd in San Diego. He is one of Cam's guys from when he was the OC for the Chargers. Most consider him a "2nd-tier" FA WR this year, so I would rather see him in purple and black rather than the four you listed. I think it's pretty safe to say that any of those four would improve our passing game, though. Walter and Bryant both had knee injuries this year, so I think they're more valuable that what may meet the eye basing it off this year alone

[DW714]

If it's an uncapped season, Malcolm Floyd would not be eligible for free agency either because he has not been in the league for 6 years or more. Floyd and Jackson are in the same boat so I didn't bother listing his name. Most of the big-name wide receivers are just finishing up their first (rookie) contract, which typically lasts four years. So none of them would be eligible either because of the 6-year rule.

[edreedfromtheu]

I just want to say that while I love Anquan Boldin... he's NOT the type of receiver the Ravens need at this point. Would be be an upgrade in talent? Sure. But the Ravens need a guy that is not only fast and tall, but able to go up OVER people to get the ball. A guy who can jump. Anquan is strong. He will block, and he will catch the ball in traffic. But he's not going to out-run the defense for 50 yard touchdowns often, and even though he's big... he doesn't really go up in the air and win the ball in the air.

I think the money would be better spent elsewhere. Marshall is definitely a better fit for the current Ravens team. But I don't see the Broncos trading him even though that is the rumor. If they didn't trade him last year, why would they do it this year? Meanwhile, Arizona is very likely to try and trade Boldin because their 3rd and 4th receivers stepped up huge, so Boldin is much more expendable. Doucet was big in that playoff game. And Breaston isn't too shabby either. Besides, if Warner retires... they're going to need trade bait to try and get a QB or a draft pick just in case Leinart doesn't work out.

[DW714]

Sounds like you prefer Marshall, but you'll settle for Boldin LOL. They're both good receivers. I agree that it would be a little easier to get Boldin given his older age and the fact that Arizona has good young receivers that have showed that they're equally as effective. Denver will probably demand a high draft pick like a second-rounder (at least). That would be too much for us to give up. I'm not sure Marshall is worth the headache. We don't need his drama!

[UtahRaven]

I think Jenkins signed a contract extension last season... not sure though... but from what I've seen of him he is inconsistent, and he has never had a 100 yard game don't think that he is a guy that we should be going for...

[BMOREHAWAII]

[quote name='DW714' date='20 January 2010 - 09:01 PM' timestamp='1264057264' post='348280']
I'm not sure Marshall is worth the headache. We don't need his drama!
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Theres nobody on Denvers roster that could tame a persons mentality like Ray Ray. Not only that, if Mason comes back he'll have a veteran above him to help his ego on the offensive side.

[Radinho84]

[quote name='DW714' date='21 January 2010 - 03:01 AM' timestamp='1264057264' post='348280']
Sounds like you prefer Marshall, but you'll settle for Boldin LOL. They're both good receivers. I agree that it would be a little easier to get Boldin given his older age and the fact that Arizona has good young receivers that have showed that they're equally as effective. Denver will probably demand a high draft pick like a second-rounder (at least). That would be too much for us to give up. I'm not sure Marshall is worth the headache. We don't need his drama!
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sometimes i don´t get you guys! u think marshall isn´t worth a second round pick? u think a second round pick is too much? what do you expect from a second round pick? 1500 yards and 15 touchdowns? that is what u could get if you get marshall!!! forget about the drama. it´s because he doesn´t whant to play in denver any more!! do you really believe that u will have a drama with any player and ray lewis in the same team? he brings everybody back to the ground. was the same with moss. oh right he was a drama queen in oakland but after thet? about 23 touchdowns in one season?
all of you out there thinking we can get a better fit in the draft with a second round pick than brandon marshall should really rethink their thoughts.
i would also give them a first rounder because this guy has it all!!! i know we will not have him here but u will not get a player that fits in and produces from day one on that level marshall would do!!!

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='Radinho84' date='21 January 2010 - 02:43 AM' timestamp='1264059838' post='348296']
sometimes i don´t get you guys! u think marshall isn´t worth a second round pick? u think a second round pick is too much? what do you expect from a second round pick? 1500 yards and 15 touchdowns? that is what u could get if you get marshall!!! forget about the drama. it´s because he doesn´t whant to play in denver any more!! do you really believe that u will have a drama with any player and ray lewis in the same team? he brings everybody back to the ground. was the same with moss. oh right he was a drama queen in oakland but after thet? about 23 touchdowns in one season?
all of you out there thinking we can get a better fit in the draft with a second round pick than brandon marshall should really rethink their thoughts.
i would also give them a first rounder because this guy has it all!!! i know we will not have him here but u will not get a player that fits in and produces from day one on that level marshall would do!!!
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You get a lot of drama with him as well. I wouldn't give up a first for Marshall. If you are talking about giving up a 1st for a WR, there are much better options before even thinking about him. Vincent Jackson. Hell, see if the Lions would deal Calvin Johnson.

You can't just midnlessly throw out a 1st round pick like that. For Marshall, I would offer a 3rd at best and that is AFTER exhausting other WR possibilities.

[Ed_Reed20]

I'd welcome either Bryant or Walter. Bryant probably would've command around 10 million after what he did last year but his injury-riddled '09 season has to have bumped his value down. Walter has been consistently productive the last three seasons and would be a good signing too.

[FabFox3124]

[quote name='Bazooka Joe' date='21 January 2010 - 04:35 AM' timestamp='1264066535' post='348308']
You get a lot of drama with him as well. I wouldn't give up a first for Marshall. If you are talking about giving up a 1st for a WR, there are much better options before even thinking about him. Vincent Jackson. Hell, see if the Lions would deal Calvin Johnson.

You can't just midnlessly throw out a 1st round pick like that. For Marshall, I would offer a 3rd at best and that is AFTER exhausting other WR possibilities.
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ARE U SERIOUS!!!! WHY WOULD U NOT GIVE UP A 1ST FOR THIS GUY WHEN HE ALREADY HAS PROVEN TALENT AND YOUNG. do u really see any of these average recievers at best coming out the draft gonna do what he can do.. I DONT THINK SO!!! trade the damn 1st and 3rd for him. and 2nd move up and get jason pierre paul DE. and were ready

[Radinho84]

the differnece is: jackson and megatron will never be traded!!!! those teams would be the most stupid teams in the world if they let one of them go! the broncos aren´t happy with marshall anymore. he doesn´t whanna play for this team/coach any longer. i cann ot see anything jackson is making better than marshall. again: drama wouldn´t be a factor in bmore!!!
like i said before and some other guys also: you will not get the production out of any draft pick (wr) this year or next year that you would get with marshall. u cannot be serious about a third round pick trade!!!!!

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='BMOREHAWAII' date='21 January 2010 - 02:41 AM' timestamp='1264059714' post='348294']
Theres nobody on Denvers roster that could tame a persons mentality like Ray Ray. Not only that, if Mason comes back he'll have a veteran above him to help his ego on the offensive side.
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Why does a player need for his teammates to keep him in check? He's a grown man.

Marshall is a good player and it would be nice to see what he could do for this offense. However, how foolish would management look if they brought him here, he got into trouble off the field and was suspended for half or an entire season by Goodell?

[DocMartin]

[quote name='DW714' date='20 January 2010 - 07:00 PM' timestamp='1264032008' post='347930']
I think that everyone agrees that we need to sign some receivers in the offseason. That includes a tight end, which is a position that we have no depth in right now. I'm hoping that we'll draft TE Gresham in the first round and he can learn from Todd Heap just like Heap learned from Shannon Sharpe years ago.

Hopefully in the 2nd round, we can pick up a big-play wide receiver. Since 2010 will probably be an uncapped season, players like Brandon Marshall, Lee Evans, Vincent Jackson, and Braylon Edwards will not become free agents like they are supposed to. So the only way to get those guys would be to trade for them. I don't see that happening. To get someone like Brandon Marshall, we would have to give up a valuable draft pick(s). Therefore, the only other option would be to go after 2nd-tier free agent wide receivers. There are four in particular that have caught my eye. They are Kevin Walter from Houston, Antonio Bryant from Tampa, Bobby Wade from Kansas City, and Michael Jenkins from Atlanta. There are all around 27 or 28 years old and with the exception of Wade, all of them are 6-1 or taller. I think getting one of these guys in addition to a playmaking WR in the draft would be a big boost to our Super Bowl chances in 2010. This is especially
true if Mason comes back. Mason is dependable, but we need a receiver across from him that can catch more than 34 receptions in a season like Mark Clayton did. I like Clayton as a man, but as a player he has overall been a disappointment since we drafted him. What do you all think? If we had to sign a free agent WR, who would it be? Walter, Bryant, Wade, or Jenkins?
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Good post, I agree on Mason, we gotta keep him and give him whatever he wants for at least a year. As far as your Free Agents wishfull signing - I like those guys metioned,
but I wouldn't sign any. Why? I can see #81 Marcus Smith coming back, and Ravens drafting 2 WR's this year. Not one, but TWO !!!???

[edreedfromtheu]

How much would you all be happy giving up to get Brandon Marshall?

The popular rumors seem to be that a 1st and 3rd round pick would be what it would take.

With many of the other positions(defensive end, linebacker, corner) being talked about needing depth and replacements... would it be worth it to trade these picks away?

Money wise, I figure we're going to have to pay the 1st round pick as much as we would have to pay Marshall in a new contract anyway.

[Jamal]

This final 8 rule is really going to hurt us. I hate to say it, but I don't think we will be seeing any big upgrade from FA. Thanks NFL.

[Reed_4_President]

Brandon Marshall

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='FabFox3124' date='21 January 2010 - 12:03 PM' timestamp='1264093427' post='348448']
ARE U SERIOUS!!!! WHY WOULD U NOT GIVE UP A 1ST FOR THIS GUY WHEN HE ALREADY HAS PROVEN TALENT AND YOUNG. do u really see any of these average recievers at best coming out the draft gonna do what he can do.. I DONT THINK SO!!! trade the damn 1st and 3rd for him. and 2nd move up and get jason pierre paul DE. and were ready
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Okay, so you trade your first and third for Marshall. How the **** are you going to move up to get anyone? Sloppy logic. Time to put a little more thought in your premise. This ain't Madden.

And hell no to trading a 1st and 3rd for Brandon Marshall. It ain't happening, so I wouldn't even get your hopes up. Ozzie does not trade 1st round picks and if he did, it wouldn't be for "Mr. Two Strikes." It would be for a guy like Vincent Jackson, who is a RFA.

Try again.

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='Jamal' date='23 January 2010 - 01:39 PM' timestamp='1264271981' post='349570']
This final 8 rule is really going to hurt us. I hate to say it, but I don't think we will be seeing any big upgrade from FA. Thanks NFL.
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Finally. I am going to post the rules under this uncapped year, so that folks can see how handstrung we are going to be this offseason. Honestly, LAST SEASON was the year we should have taken care of receiver, but we couldn't because Suggs hadn't signed his deal and he clogged up the salary cap to the point that we couldn't make any moves. We should have taken a receiver in last year's draft.

[poedacrow]

[quote name='Jamal' date='23 January 2010 - 02:39 PM' timestamp='1264271981' post='349570']
This final 8 rule is really going to hurt us. I hate to say it, but I don't think we will be seeing any big upgrade from FA. Thanks NFL.
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If the NFL gives you lemons, make lemonade...This CBA thingy may not be a bad thing [b]IF[/b] the team can do well in the draft. I'v heard the suggestion here and elsewhere that some quality receivers will be around later in the draft than most think. One thing for sure, I've never been so interested in the offseason as I am this year!

[ed.s52]

We could trade a first and third for Marshall, not a horrible move. But with the talent loaded in this years draft i would draft two recievers: Dez Bryant/Damian Williams and Eric Decker/Mardy Gilyard/Brandon Lafell (although depending who else is left we might not even take a reciever in the earlier rounds). The fact is that since we are a running team we simply don't need a reciever like Marshall although it would be nice. If we can make a trade that isnt 1st and 3rd round picks I would be all for it. Any new reciever should be an upgrade for us and we are known for being beasts in the offseason so I trust the Ravens will make the right move.

[Romo Ravens]

My ideal situation would be to trade for either Anquan or Marshall, either one would suffice. I'm sure we would all feel that Marshall would be the best for us, since Anquan may be tough as nails, but you can't get production out of a guy who sits for nearly a month if not longer almost every season he's been in the league. Everybody always goes back to the Marshall case, stating he might get in trouble, he's useless if he's suspended, blah blah blah. We had a chance to trade for him last summer, something that we did not do, and look what happened. He was found innocent and next thing you know, his team, who might I add he took over by himself on offense, started at 6-0. The tools are there, the attitude of a Raven is there. The man just wants to play and wants to win. I know that this is beat to death, but I honestly do think our veteran's can keep him in control. I know a man is a man, but money is money. We could put a clause in his contract to where if he get's in trouble, no bonus. I would LOVE either one on this team. I'm sick and tired of hearing that we just need a Kevin Walter or a Jason Avant. You have to be kidding me. We do not need another 3rd down chain mover, we need a playmaker. A Ray Rice at wideout. We need a leader. If this is not taken care of in a trade or free agency, we have to attack the topic in the first round and the third IMO. So many options, so many opportunities. Will the FO ever understand? I know it's way more complicated then going out and trading a first and a third, but it's worth every draft pick. I say we have two options: Trade a 2nd and a player and maybe a 4th for next year's draft for Anquan. Use the first then to trade up in the early second. Pick Arrelious Benn if he's still there. Try and get Malcolm Floyd, then before you know it, we have Q, Floyd, Benn and Mason. Second option, just trade the first and third for Marshall and still pick up Floyd or someone similar. Can you say matchup nightmares for opposing corner's?

[makaha]

I say let the draft to its thang

[Radinho84]

also marshall or elso would be nice to have on the team it isn´t done with adding one receiver. what if mason retires and u get marshall? they will double team him all season and our other "receivers" whon´t again get it done!!! u need- if mason retires- at least two very good gys to open the field. marshall wouldn´t be any better than mason if he is the only good receiver on the team!!!!!
i am sick of the jeck downs to rice and all those short completions. we will never see if flacco is the real deal as long he doesn´t get the weapons to prove!!!!!
so let us hope the offseason goes well for us and that we make all the moves that are neccessary to become a great team!!!

[ed.s52]

Antonio Bryant is currently the most underrated free agent PERIOD. He would be the best and easiest addition to our team. However, I think is very important for us to get Brandon Marshall if we get a good deal(possibly 1st rounder and willis or troy?) because he is a proven talent and the fact that Dez Bryant or Damian Williams will become good receivers but Brandon Marshall(as well as A.Bryant just not as much) will provide a threat that will keep some of the attention off of Rice and stop teams from blitzing 3 out of 4 plays. There is also the fact that the only reason why he is whining is because he hates it in Denver and wants to leave and he wont whine(or not nearly as much) with big bad Ray Lewis in his face. But with a receiving core like B. Marshall, A.Bryant, D.Mason, 1 or 2 of the following: Dez Bryant/Damian William/Brandon LaFell/Arrellious Benn/Golden Tate/Mardy Gilyard/Eric Decker/etc, and Kelley Washington our passing game would be almost as feared as our running game.

[Wacko4Zacko]

Im sure antonio bryant will be franchised tag. Why let him go when you just drafted a rookie and future franchsie QB.

[ZIBBY28]

[quote name='DW714' date='21 January 2010 - 01:20 AM' timestamp='1264054829' post='348272']
If it's an uncapped season, Malcolm Floyd would not be eligible for free agency either because he has not been in the league for 6 years or more. Floyd and Jackson are in the same boat so I didn't bother listing his name. Most of the big-name wide receivers are just finishing up their first (rookie) contract, which typically lasts four years. So none of them would be eligible either because of the 6-year rule.
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Floyd played in '04.... next year will be his 7th year.

[ed.s52]

[quote name='Radinho84' date='24 January 2010 - 04:46 AM' timestamp='1264337169' post='349929']
also marshall or elso would be nice to have on the team it isn´t done with adding one receiver. what if mason retires and u get marshall? they will double team him all season and our other "receivers" whon´t again get it done!!! u need- if mason retires- at least two very good gys to open the field. marshall wouldn´t be any better than mason if he is the only good receiver on the team!!!!!
i am sick of the jeck downs to rice and all those short completions. we will never see if flacco is the real deal as long he doesn´t get the weapons to prove!!!!!
so let us hope the offseason goes well for us and that we make all the moves that are neccessary to become a great team!!!
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Your completely right but missed one MAJOR concept, one spectacular reciever with a bunch of crappy ones is better than a bunch of crappy ones.

[Radinho84]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='26 January 2010 - 01:59 AM' timestamp='1264485545' post='351176']
Your completely right but missed one MAJOR concept, one spectacular reciever with a bunch of crappy ones is better than a bunch of crappy ones.
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that is right bruh!!! lol