Harbaugh Admits Flacco Was Injured

[ravens27]

What do you guys think of this?

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/19/harbaugh-admits-flacco-was-injured-despite-absence-from-injury-report/"]My link[/url]

[Ed_Reed20]

Joe was obviously hurt regardless of what he or Harbaugh said.

He'll be bigger and stronger next year though.

[Moderator 2]

This is childish and juvenile but DUH!

[JO_75]

[quote name='Moderator 2' date='20 January 2010 - 12:26 AM' timestamp='1263965167' post='347473']
This is childish and juvenile but DUH!
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Yeah Flacco was hurt but if he was going to play there was no point putting him on the report and besides the Patriots have cheated on their injury report including Brady on their report when he was healthy and the Colts did the same this year when they had 20 players listed on their injury report. Just hope we don't get fined for it like the Jets did when it came out Favre was injured but wasn't listed on the report.

[jonnyloback76]

I didn't read the link, but about a week ago I read that he injured his hip in the Raiders game and couldn't even sit down on the plane after they left. I think the aritcle I read was published about a week ago or something. But hip issues are nothing any player wants to mess with. I'm no doctor, but these "hip pointer" things or whatever they are called, can continually act up again and again from what I understand (that may be wrong) - plus I don't even know if Flacco has that issue.

[BMOREHAWAII]

Does Harbs not have faith on Troy Smith? I mean besides the INT's that he's known for, he'd add versatility to a offense that other teams weren't planning for...

[Moderator 2]

[quote name='jonnyloback76' date='20 January 2010 - 01:49 AM' timestamp='1263970187' post='347507']
I didn't read the link, but about a week ago I read that he injured his hip in the Raiders game and couldn't even sit down on the plane after they left. I think the aritcle I read was published about a week ago or something. But hip issues are nothing any player wants to mess with. I'm no doctor, but these "hip pointer" things or whatever they are called, can continually act up again and again from what I understand (that may be wrong) - plus I don't even know if Flacco has that issue.
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This was not a hip pointer, they occur on the iliac crest or the pointy part of your pelvis-- this was on the quad muscle group of the thigh I read somewhere the thigh circumference increased 4 inches. The guy is tough, that has to hurt like hell.

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"[size="1"]He had a bad contusion on his thigh, on the outside of his thigh and hip area there, and it swelled up," Harbaugh said. "And I think it was restrictive for him. If any of you guys have had that kind of a serious bruise, you know how much that hurts. ... And then you get on a flight and that's when the swelling starts to happen a bit. So, I think Joe showed some real toughness throughout the last five or six weeks, playing through that."
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Flacco set a franchise record with a 63.1 completion percentage and posted career highs in passing yards (3,613) and touchdowns (21) during the regular season.[/size] Harbaugh said Flacco's development is continuing[/size] [/quote] So why all the Flacco bashing?

[jonnyloback76]

[quote name='Moderator 2' date='20 January 2010 - 03:09 AM' timestamp='1263974964' post='347516']
This was not a hip pointer, they occur on the iliac crest or the pointy part of your pelvis-- this was on the quad muscle group of the thigh I read somewhere the thigh circumference increased 4 inches. The guy is tough, that has to hurt like hell.

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THAT's the part that I forgot to add. I read the thigh area was like doubled in size from swelling too (?). I mean OW! If I get a little fluid build up in my knee, THAT hurts, I can't imagine having that much swelling.

I dig Flacco though. I think he definetely stands a chance to be a top 5 receiver in the NFL. It may just be glimmers, but when they give him the ball and it looks like he's "going to town", I've only seen several QBs (this Era) that do what he does. Just the 35-40 yard passes, he makes them look like they take no effort. Then I don't know if anyone was watching when they showed him throwing the ball at "clay pigeons" or whatever they are, LOL. Hopefully Cameron makes some more plays for him this year so that he can get 4000+ yards on the season.

[Perfekt]

funny thing is i pointed this out a while ago and already said i didnt want to hear the excuse of harbs risking flaccos career for a playoff run. oh well atleast he can now fully recover. i really hope troy goes to another team because this isnt the team for him.

[TSizzle00]

[quote name='JO_75' date='20 January 2010 - 12:55 AM' timestamp='1263966914' post='347489']
Yeah Flacco was hurt but if he was going to play there was no point putting him on the report and besides the Patriots have cheated on their injury report including Brady on their report when he was healthy and the Colts did the same this year when they had 20 players listed on their injury report. Just hope we don't get fined for it like the Jets did when it came out Favre was injured but wasn't listed on the report.
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Brady was on the Pats injury report with a "shoulder" for like 3 years.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Alexir' date='20 January 2010 - 01:14 AM' timestamp='1263968090' post='347494']
Harbs is an idiot for not putting him on the list. If Flacco we injured his hip in that game, this would have been a much bigger deal since Harbs neglected to put his QB on an injury list that is there to protect players.

Total dope. Didn't he learn from Mangenius and Favre? Looks like he is out some dough
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You've embarrassed yourself again Alexir. Do you honestly think the injury report is to protect players? If a QB is on the injury report, it's likely the opposing defense will attack even more knowing that he's hurt.

Whether a player is on the injury report or not doesn't matter.

[Alexir]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='20 January 2010 - 11:17 AM' timestamp='1264004275' post='347601']
You've embarrassed yourself again Alexir. Do you honestly think the injury report is to protect players? If a QB is on the injury report, it's likely the opposing defense will attack even more knowing that he's hurt.

Whether a player is on the injury report or not doesn't matter.
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No, not embarrassed at all, d-bag. Just cause you don't agree with it doesn't make it wrong. I mean yeah the injury report was set up a long time ago for gambling reasons and such but it is there for the training staff and medical staff just in case of a re-injury and for legal ramifications due to injury to protect both the club and the player. Also,How are you not on my block list yet?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Alexir' date='20 January 2010 - 01:17 PM' timestamp='1264011463' post='347685']
No, not embarrassed at all, d-bag. Just cause you don't agree with it doesn't make it wrong. I mean yeah the injury report was set up a long time ago for gambling reasons and such but it is there for the training staff and medical staff just in case of a re-injury and for legal ramifications due to injury to protect both the club and the player. Also,How are you not on my block list yet?
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Call me what you want. But why did you delete you're original statement? And what legal ramifications could arise from re-injury? If a player re-injures himself and wasn't put on the injury report, that's his fault for playing. Give me one example of a player suing his team or filing legal action over something concerning the injury report.

[Alexir]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='20 January 2010 - 01:46 PM' timestamp='1264013210' post='347714']
Call me what you want. But why did you delete you're original statement? And what legal ramifications could arise from re-injury? If a player re-injures himself and wasn't put on the injury report, that's his fault for playing. Give me one example of a player suing his team or filing legal action over something concerning the injury report.
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First of all, I didn't delete that. I don't know who did. Second of all, if a player is injured and re-injures said injury in game and isn't listed on injury report he has no proof of previous injury when it comes to contract time and extension time. Third of all, this is my last reply to you cause you are on my ignore list. peace.

[Jamal]

Hopefully Flacco will add some much needed muscle this offseason.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Alexir' date='20 January 2010 - 02:44 PM' timestamp='1264016691' post='347757']
First of all, I didn't delete that. I don't know who did. Second of all, if a player is injured and re-injures said injury in game and isn't listed on injury report he has no proof of previous injury when it comes to contract time and extension time. Third of all, this is my last reply to you cause you are on my ignore list. peace.
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LOL! How many times does a scenario like that come up? Give me facts instead of random hypothetical scenarios. But I guess you won't because you've put me on your ignore list. I guess that's what happens when you can't back up your points.

[Bazooka Joe]

You can pull up the games on NFLN On Demand. There is a drastic difference in Flacco's play from the beginning of the season to the end. It is a major difference. How he moves. His accuracy. Even his presence in the pocket. Flacco did not suddenly become stuck on stupid and forgot how to play QB. He was definitely playing with much pain.

I agree that he should have been rested against the Browns and the Lions. Hell, Troy Smith could even beat those losers. Flacco also would brace for the sacks to avoid further damage whereas in the beginning, Flacco would fight and scramble and stare the pressure in its face.

It reminds me of when Ben was recovering from that accident. Ben played the same way Flacco did at the end of the season.

Flacco is a trooper and one tough cookie.

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='19 January 2010 - 11:54 PM' timestamp='1263963292' post='347467']
Joe was obviously hurt regardless of what he or Harbaugh said.

He'll be bigger and stronger next year though.
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Totally agree. I just hopes he takes some time off and let himself heal.

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='20 January 2010 - 01:46 PM' timestamp='1264013210' post='347714']
Call me what you want. But why did you delete you're original statement? And what legal ramifications could arise from re-injury? If a player re-injures himself and wasn't put on the injury report, that's his fault for playing. Give me one example of a player suing his team or filing legal action over something concerning the injury report.
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I agree. It is Flacco who is deciding to play through his injuries. He is putting himself out there, so there would be no liability. I am not understanding the legal aspect. Flacco could have easily told Harbaugh that he can't go, but he did not. Harbaugh is not going to put Flacco out there if Flacco was not in some form of playing shape. Whomever came up with that legal action argument really whiffed bigtime.

What we saw was Flacco manning up, because he believes that he gives the team the best chance to win. Now, that's a leader. Had we been 3-10 at that point, we would not have seen Flacco for the rest of the season.

[Alexir]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='20 January 2010 - 02:50 PM' timestamp='1264017058' post='347765']
LOL! How many times does a scenario like that come up? Give me facts instead of random hypothetical scenarios. But I guess you won't because you've put me on your ignore list. I guess that's what happens when you can't back up your points.
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Hey ****, just cause a law or guideline is put in affect doesn't mean it has happened. I can back up my points plenty, you wanna meet in person and talk about this?

[Alexir]

[quote name='Bazooka Joe' date='20 January 2010 - 03:17 PM' timestamp='1264018651' post='347786']
I agree. It is Flacco who is deciding to play through his injuries. He is putting himself out there, so there would be no liability. I am not understanding the legal aspect. Flacco could have easily told Harbaugh that he can't go, but he did not. Harbaugh is not going to put Flacco out there if Flacco was not in some form of playing shape. Whomever came up with that legal action argument really whiffed bigtime.

What we saw was Flacco manning up, because he believes that he gives the team the best chance to win. Now, that's a leader. Had we been 3-10 at that point, we would not have seen Flacco for the rest of the season.
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You can also say a leader knows when he is letting his team down. I'm not saying bring in Troy Smith or John Beck but Flacco shouldn't of been on that field. We should have stuck to the run game or short passes instead of trying to have him throw these 50 yard bombs.

With a QB rating of 10 one week and a qb rating of 48 the next week, its obvious that he is being hindered by his hip. Why would Harbaugh not put him on there as probable?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Alexir' date='20 January 2010 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1264020719' post='347817']
Hey ****, just cause a law or guideline is put in affect doesn't mean it has happened. I can back up my points plenty, you wanna meet in person and talk about this?
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There you go insulting me again.

[quote name='Alexir' date='20 January 2010 - 03:55 PM' timestamp='1264020927' post='347823']
You can also say a leader knows when he is letting his team down. I'm not saying bring in Troy Smith or John Beck but Flacco shouldn't of been on that field. We should have stuck to the run game or short passes instead of trying to have him throw these 50 yard bombs.

With a QB rating of 10 one week and a qb rating of 48 the next week, its obvious that he is being hindered by his hip. Why would Harbaugh not put him on there as probable?
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Flacco's mechanics were affected but why shouldn't he have been on the field in the middle of a play-off race? Dozens of QBs in league history have played through injuries. Joe isn't the first and he won't be the last.

The Ravens stuck with the run game and eventually found themselves down 14 points. They then continued throwing short passes until it became painfully obvious that they had to go down-field.

And how many deep passes did they throw? I only remember two so I don't know what you're talking about.

I really don't see what stating a player's status on an injury report achieves. And I don't see how it's even a talking point. Belichick has manipulated the injury report for years but does it really matter at the end of the day?

[ravens27]

Hopefully Flacco is 100% healthy next season with some added weapons.