Merged: The Front Office Needs To "git 'er Done" This Offseason

[wvravensfan]

I think Flacco will be an elite QB for years to come if Ozzie will actually man up and spend some money or draft a WR or 2 that are unstoppable..I don't believe in this junk we hear every year about "We got confidence in our WRS" and all that hoopla.....NFL teams pay money its part of the game so either go out and get a Great WR or expect the same thing to happen for years to come...Thats just my opinion...I'm so happy for where we have come so far but its time for them to realize our WRS are junk most games....I dont want any of them back but D. WIll i think he will fit perfect if they give him more reps...Also they need to START PAUL KRUGER next season i got such a good feeling about this kid that he is going to be a BEAST and Suggs needs to stay away from the cheeseburgers this off season and not come back to TC outta shape...

[JoeFlax]

agreed.. this offseason will be crucial for the Ravens and especially for Joe for the upcoming 5 years or even the for the next decade if we are to spend a high draft pick on a WR. We desperately need one right now.

[Jamal]

This off season can either make us a Superbowl contender, or it could set the franchise years back.

Needless to say, this is one of the most important off seasons for this organization.

[ROH522155]

I certainly trust our front office to get the job done. Whatever they do I'm all for it

[Guest RBates]

This offseason beg Rex to come back and get rid of Harbaugh. He doesn't coach any aspect of the game hello....You wonder why things go wrong so much when you are dealing with essentially a veteran team. They don't respect or are not afraid of there head coach.. Rex throws his players under the bus and that's why they headed to the championship game. What exactly does Harbaugh do... i get it a great motivator, and good with his vague media answers. But what does he coach? if you give a negative point to this post at least be man or woman enough to tell me what Harbaugh does other than ask his coordinators what's going on. We need a coach and im tired of the mismanagement of the clock the little things that make you a good coach. What would possess a coach right before the half to give the ball back to the most dangerous QB in Football is beyond me. See the little things. Learn the game Harbaugh or get out because it doesn't really take a genius to coach an already Superbowl caliber team.

[H8R]

[quote name='RBates' date='17 January 2010 - 10:11 PM' timestamp='1263784316' post='345640']
This offseason beg Rex to come back and get rid of Harbaugh. He doesn't coach any aspect of the game hello....You wonder why things go wrong so much when you are dealing with essentially a veteran team. They don't respect or are not afraid of there head coach.. Rex throws his players under the bus and that's why they headed to the championship game. What exactly does Harbaugh do... i get it a great motivator, and good with his vague media answers. But what does he coach? if you give a negative point to this post at least be man or woman enough to tell me what Harbaugh does other than ask his coordinators what's going on. We need a coach and im tired of the mismanagement of the clock the little things that make you a good coach. What would possess a coach right before the half to give the ball back to the most dangerous QB in Football is beyond me. See the little things. Learn the game Harbaugh or get out because it doesn't really take a genius to coach an already Superbowl caliber team.
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I'd give you a (-) but i don't have any to give. We are NOT a Super Bowl Caliber team. Not even a AFCCG team. We're just an above avg team with a young nucleus trying to get better. Harbs is a hell of a coach, then again all you seem to do is criticize this team so why should anyone try and explain the views to you?

[gilgamesh]

[quote name='RBates' date='17 January 2010 - 10:11 PM' timestamp='1263784316' post='345640']
This offseason beg Rex to come back and get rid of Harbaugh. He doesn't coach any aspect of the game hello....You wonder why things go wrong so much when you are dealing with essentially a veteran team. They don't respect or are not afraid of there head coach.. Rex throws his players under the bus and that's why they headed to the championship game. What exactly does Harbaugh do... i get it a great motivator, and good with his vague media answers. But what does he coach? if you give a negative point to this post at least be man or woman enough to tell me what Harbaugh does other than ask his coordinators what's going on. We need a coach and im tired of the mismanagement of the clock the little things that make you a good coach. What would possess a coach right before the half to give the ball back to the most dangerous QB in Football is beyond me. See the little things. Learn the game Harbaugh or get out because it doesn't really take a genius to coach an already Superbowl caliber team.
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Rex inherited a good team with great personnel on defense. Revis is a shutdown corner, we don't have one. Rex's schemes did not always work against the better QB's. We actually fared better against Indy this season than we did last season. The Jets have better personnel for Rex's defense. Believe it or not, last year the Jets were a very strong contender in the middle of the season. Then Favre became bad Favre and put their D in compromising situations. Rex actually came into a better situation than Harbaugh. The QB and WR situation was about the same, but he inherited a great Pro-Bowl caliber O-line. On defense, he got great young players while Harbaugh had to deal with aging vets. I don't follow the Jets that much, but their only injury that pops out is Jenkins. Harbaugh had to deal with a lot of patchwork. Rex is great, but having him instead of Harbaugh would do nothing for this team. Having Revis instead of Carr, well that is a different story.

[IceDevilHH81]

I agree on the fact that we need some playmakers so our passing game gets better. Joe has a strong arm. We must get him a tall fast target so he can go deep down the field. At least one!

Ray Rice plays great now! But how much better will he be if we can develop the passing game and other teams must take care about the pass and the run?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='JIVE1000' date='17 January 2010 - 10:32 PM' timestamp='1263785546' post='345665']
As far as anybody 'manning-up' in the front office (or anywhere else in the NFL) that sort of went out the window with that month where they wore the pink shoes. Now I don't know about you but I figure wearing pink shoes (and gloves) has a psychological affect on the players.
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Do you know why the player were wearing pink shoes, gloves and accessories? If not, please be quiet.

I agree with everyone about this off-season being HUGE for the franchise. To me, the team isn't far from being Super Bowl-caliber. Disgruntled fans can say what they want but considering all the inexperience and injuries, this coaching has a done a damn good job two years in a row to get to and advance in the play-offs.

I could care less who wins the SB. I just want the off-season to officially begin so the Ravens can start bettering themselves.

[ravens27]

[quote name='JIVE1000' date='17 January 2010 - 10:32 PM' timestamp='1263785546' post='345665']
[b]As far as anybody 'manning-up' in the front office (or anywhere else in the NFL) that sort of went out the window [b]with that month where they wore the pink shoes. Now I don't know about you but I figure wearing pink shoes (and gloves) has a psychological affect on the players.[/b]
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Do you have any idea what the pink was for? If you don't know just be quiet.

I think its a great idea that the NFL supports breast cancer awareness month.

I have had family members with cancer and breast cancer, and its a terrible experience to go through. I wouldn't wish cancer on my worst enemy.

Your comments about pink shoes and gloves really irked me off. That comment was uncalled for. Cancer is a terrible thing.

[Radinho84]

it´s a shame what some guys are pulling out here!!!!!!!!!

anyway: this is really a very important offseason but not that big as we all think. the most important thing is a wr and cb or safety. i think reed will not come back because those nack problems are not funny and can really limit you for the rest of your live. i would prefer that he ends his carear at a high level than see him playin on an average one for one or two years limited due to his neck or other injuries. don´t get me wrong. he is with ray my all time favorite raven!!!! just whant to keep him in my mind in best level.

we are not far away from beeing agreat team also we are not far away from beeing an average one. some guys on this team have to bring more to the table than they did this year if we whant to take the next step....

[MagicianCamille]

Michael Oher, Paul Kruger, Ladarius Webb...pretty good draft we had. No complaints.

I think we might be a bit too restricted to make a big FA move, but I'd love to see us draft a good WR. Unfortunately I don't follow college football so I have no idea what this year's WR class looks like.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='H8R' date='17 January 2010 - 11:26 PM' timestamp='1263785169' post='345657']
I'd give you a (-) but i don't have any to give. We are NOT a Super Bowl Caliber team. Not even a AFCCG team. We're just an above avg team with a young nucleus trying to get better. Harbs is a hell of a coach, then again all you seem to do is criticize this team so why should anyone try and explain the views to you?
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you all like Harbs then, that's good ill bet in two years not three or four you will feel different. And im saving this post just so you don't get confused about what was said. This team with Rex at D coordinator was a Championship caliber team you ever wonder why he retained Rex and brought in Cam in the first place to make up for his lack of knowledge for the game. Look Harbaugh is a nice guy and all, very likable, but that's not in Question his coaching is. With Cam possibly getting a head coaching job elsewhere what would Harbs do then. Hire another Coordinator because he can't coach. Now i know what's done is done, and REX is now a Jet, but this is for everbody reading this post if there is a proven guy with d coordinator experience and an uproven guy with.....wow special teams and maybe DB experience then take the proven hard nose guy they coach better. and what would you say if the Jets beat the Colts oh it was there shut down corner right. Because we have better pieces than they do on d it's just how you use them. Or lack there of.

[jonnyloback76]

Based on stats, this team should have gone a lot further. I was looking at the league stats for all teams yesterday & the day before, and the Ravens were just GOOD. I was looking for some things that went wrong, and could only see one (with passing being a small second). But here is what I noticed.

I like Harbaugh though, but I do somewhat agree with clock management. There were numerous games where I was sitting there thinking 'go, go, go, go, go, back to the line, back to the line' and doing that little finger wave in a circle thingy, LOL.

DEFENSE:
Points per game allowed: 3rd
Yards per game allowed: 3rd
Rushing yards per game allowed: 5th
Passing yards per game allowed: 8th (eh)
Interceptions: 5th
Sacks: Tied for 22nd I think (I don't know how many teams had 32)

OFFENSE:
Points per game: 9th
Rushing yards per game: 5th
Passing yards per game: 18th <----the Jets were 31st and look at them

Penatly yards: 8 billion 497 million - just kidding, 1094 #1 - it's the penatly yards that seemed to destroy the team nearly all year. If some of the field goals were made, the Ravens would have probably ended the season 14-2 without averaging nearly 70 penatly yards per game.

The team definetely needs a couple of solid wides and to give Flacco more free reign over what he does at the line. I just hope that happens when/if Cameron is still there. Flacco should be around 4200-4500 yards in a season. Only Cassell, Palmer, Rivers and Sanchez had less passing attempts (unless ya count Hasselbeck who only played 14 games). But Rivers averaged almost 9 yards per attempt or something higher then heck; I think he lead the NFL. Sanchez is a rookie and Palmer only completed like 60% of his passes while Cassell was at like 55% completion or something.

I just don't see how Flacco is going to get the experience or throws with Cameron as the OC, who knows though. I just know what Rivers and Brees did while Cameron was working with them, then what they did after he wasn't. Didn't both of them throw for a thousand more yards when he stopped coaching them, LOL? Cameron is obviously a good OC, with the way that players, especially ones that run a lot, develope around him.

One thing that is a must, IMO, is another linebacker that can read the defense (or defensive end) - and I don't mean like see where a ball is going, I mean one that is QUICK that can bust threw the line and pressure the opposing quarterback more. I'm still hoping the Ravens upper management takes a longggggg hard look at Sam Maxwell from Kentucky. From what I have seen, he has RAVEN written all over him, hehe. He only had one season at Kentucky that was really good (his senior year), but he reminds be a lot of Lewis or something (I don't know what it is), with the way that he appears to be able to read plays. I don't know any other Linebackers that had 6 interceptions on the year. 6 foot 3, 248 pounds, 81 tackles, 6 interceptions and he appears to be really quick.

[POPS1]

[size="3"][font="Verdana"]I don’t know about you but I was borderline despondent after that mess in Indianapolis. Actually woke up through the night Saturday angry at the Ravens for the way they played in that game. Sunday wasn’t much better. When training camp started we all had such high hopes. Based on last year’s run to the AFC title game, this team was surely a legitimate Super Bowl contender. [/font][/size]

[size="3"][font="Verdana"]But, from that opening game against the Chiefs you could see that something was not quite right. Even with a 3-0 start something was missing. Even when the offense was putting up huge numbers through the air, there was still that knot in the stomach.[/font][/size]

[size="3"][font="Verdana"]Eventually, we all saw what was making us uneasy. The staggering number of penalties, lack of on-field discipline, a secondary that couldn’t cover my grandmother (although they did get better), a non-existent pass rush, dropped passes, missed kicks, weird time outs, odd challenges (or non-challenges), goofy play calling – stuff like that.[/font][/size]

[size="3"][font="Verdana"]Yet, there was some good to come out of this season. The win over the Patriots was the biggest win of the season and perhaps many seasons. The emergence of Ray Rice, Lardarius Webb and, for a time, Joe Flacco. Michael Oher.[/font][/size]

[size="3"][font="Verdana"]Our needs in the off-season have been well documented on this forum. We need help at receiver and in the secondary. We need better pass rushers to try and get pressure with a four-man rush rather than having to blitz for pressure. We need help at linebacker to help cover the middle of the field better. But, besides the obvious personnel help we need, here’s what else I think needs to happen this off-season:[/font][/size]

[size="3"][font="Verdana"]John Harbaugh and the entire coaching staff needs to improve their performance. This was not a stellar year for them. The on-field discipline issue is on them. So are poor challenges, time outs because plays are not in on time or the wrong players are on the field, clock management, and play calling on both sides of the ball that at times was a mystery. Not recognizing the talent they had in Lardarius Webb until so late in the season was borderline criminal as was keeping Frank Walker on the roster. This team needs to develop some offensive urgency. Down three scores with nine minutes left would, at some point, suggest it’s time to go no-huddle or somehow speed up the process. Joe Cool may be too cool at times. He needs to pick up the pace of the offense particularly at critical times. [/font][/size]

[size="3"][font="Verdana"]The front office needs to improve it’s performance. While Ozzie’s free agent acquisitions over the years have generally been exceptional, it wasn’t last off-season. This was the NFL version of “garbage in, garbage out.” Ozzie may be the best evaluator of college talent in the NFL but he will need to be even better this off-season. With the new free agent rules in place for the final eight teams, he will need to fill our holes largely through the draft.[/font][/size]

[size="3"][font="Verdana"]Ownership needs to improve its performance. At the end of the day the buck really does stop at Steve Bisciotti’s desk and our 10-8 season is as much on him as anyone else. Improvements in the areas identified must be driven by his leadership.[/font][/size]

[size="3"][font="Verdana"]Next year is a critical year for Bisciotti, Ozzie, Harbaugh and the coaches. It begins with the draft, off-season personnel changes, and the off-season workouts of players. For instance, will Suggs show up at training camp in shape and ready to go on day one? Expectations will again be high next year and they should be with this being year three for Harbaugh and Flacco. But, if we want to get to the Super Bowl we already know which teams we need to be built to beat. The Steelers and Bengals in our own division and teams like the Colts, Chargers, Patriots, and now even the Jets come playoff time and perhaps a few other emerging teams as well.[/font][/size]

[size="3"][font="Verdana"]It ain’t rocket science so . . . [i]Git ‘er Done! [/i][/font][/size]

[H8R]

Rbates


First, learn how to quote someone. Next, look at 2007. How goos was that Ravens defense with the SAME PLAYERS? I think Mattision will build the defense now to suit HIS STYLE. Basically meaning the pressure starts with the D-line instead of LB's, because were not that type of team. I wouldn't be shocked if we got a DE or DT with the first pick.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='gilgamesh' date='17 January 2010 - 11:31 PM' timestamp='1263785464' post='345663']
Rex inherited a good team with great personnel on defense. Revis is a shutdown corner, we don't have one. Rex's schemes did not always work against the better QB's. We actually fared better against Indy this season than we did last season. The Jets have better personnel for Rex's defense. Believe it or not, last year the Jets were a very strong contender in the middle of the season. Then Favre became bad Favre and put their D in compromising situations. Rex actually came into a better situation than Harbaugh. The QB and WR situation was about the same, but he inherited a great Pro-Bowl caliber O-line. On defense, he got great young players while Harbaugh had to deal with aging vets. I don't follow the Jets that much, but their only injury that pops out is Jenkins. Harbaugh had to deal with a lot of patchwork. Rex is great, but having him instead of Harbaugh would do nothing for this team. Having Revis instead of Carr, well that is a different story.
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and harbs didn't

[BlackBirdsRising]

I think the front office got last year's draft right.

With a premier QB, you need a premier O-Line. And the draft of Michael Oher solidified the line. Now we have two bookend tackles that will get better with experience. The O-Line enables us to run the ball well as well -- which we did this year.

This draft, Ozzie and Co. will look to fill the WR ranks with new targets for Joe to throw to, I'm sure. Hopefully Derrick Mason will return to tutor the new kids, and be that possession receiver, and depending on whether this is a cap year or not, maybe grab a WR in the FA market.

I know fans like to gripe at Ozzie for his draft strategy, but really? He drafts a PRO-BOWL/ALL-PRO player every year damn near! And I fully expect, with LT, RT, C, QB, RB1, RB2, and RB3 all taken care of into the foreseeable future, he'll make a find amongst the available draftees that will make an ideal X, or Y receiver, with Mason, Clayton, Kelley Washington, or L. Williams in the slot.

Add a talented corner (to go opposite Ladarius Webb) and we're good to go. Zibby can fill in Ed's spot if he does in fact retire (which I don't think is gonna happen). Add in Nakamura's return and our starting secondary should be very solid in '10.

I'm pumped already!!!

[Foxworth]

I'm just worried about Reed's retirement. if Mason goes, it won't be much of a push back since Ozzie will be FORCED to look for new talent. However, replacing a player of Ed's caliber is almost impossible.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Foxworth' date='18 January 2010 - 08:48 PM' timestamp='1263865720' post='346451']
I'm just worried about Reed's retirement. if Mason goes, it won't be much of a push back since Ozzie will be FORCED to look for new talent. However, replacing a player of Ed's caliber is almost impossible.
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My feelings are completely different.

We had a great defense before Reed was here, and we'll have a great defense after he leaves. How many great wide receivers did we have before Mason?