Start Troy Smith Petition

[Mazda]

Look at Boller: Banged up, throws INTS, looses fumbles, etc.

Now look at Troy Smith: 2/3 (that pass was just a little too far), 1 rushing TD in less than two and a half minutes.

Finally look at our record: 4-9, and no playoff hopes at all this season

Who do you think should start? We are playing Miami, and if we don't start Troy Smith, we'll most likely be a laughing stock. See what Smith can do, the season is ALREADY OVER.

To Brian Billick:

If you are reading this, go home, and look at the stat sheet!!!!!! Smith should start, he's an excellent QB, and is very good at scrambling. Please, if we are down 30-7, don't just put hope in Boller, let Troy put hope in US!!!

[amwo]

Look at Boller: Banged up, throws INTS, looses fumbles, etc.

Now look at Troy Smith: 2/3 (that pass was just a little too far), 1 rushing TD in less than two and a half minutes.

Finally look at our record: 4-9, and no playoff hopes at all this season

Who do you think should start? We are playing Miami, and if we don't start Troy Smith, we'll most likely be a laughing stock. See what Smith can do, the season is ALREADY OVER.

To Brian Billick:

If you are reading this, go home, and look at the stat sheet!!!!!! Smith should start, he's an excellent QB, and is very good at scrambling. Please, if we are down 30-7, don't just put hope in Boller, let Troy put hope in US!!!

AMEN!!!! i completely agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!! TROY TROY TROY......

[Mazda]

Thank you, thank you, I know how wonderful my speeches are :P

But seriously, Brian, if you start Boller, and not Troy, the Ravens have a chance of loosing, and I promise you WONT come back next year if we loose.

[BMORE BLITZers]

AMEN...GO TROY SMITH...OUR FUTURE!!!

[#1 D]

Thank you, thank you, I know how wonderful my speeches are :P

But seriously, Brian, if you start Boller, and not Troy, the Ravens have a chance of loosing, and I promise you WONT come back next year if we loose.

He; already feeling the pressure right now..read my other thread or go to baltimoresun.com/sports. Brian Billick is feeling the presure and he wishes for assurance of Bisciotti. I pray to god that he does not get that assurance.

[tiki_51]

I have followed Troy Smith since he was at Ohio State, and I'm not surprised at what I saw. He is a mobile, undersized quarterback with a rocket arm. People gave him him no chance at Ohio state and he won the Heisman. Steve McNair has reached the end of his career and its time to give up on Boller. Obviously they are eliminated from the playoffs, they play one of the worst teams in the history of the NFL next week, its time to give him a chance. I'm not a big fan of throwing a rookie QB into the fire, but they only have three games left. I know that if given the chance, Troy Smith can become the QB the Ravens have been looking for all these years.

[Mazda]

I have followed Troy Smith since he was at Ohio State, and I'm not surprised at what I saw. He is a mobile, undersized quarterback with a rocket arm. People gave him him no chance at Ohio state and he won the Heisman. Steve McNair has reached the end of his career and its time to give up on Boller. Obviously they are eliminated from the playoffs, they play one of the worst teams in the history of the NFL next week, its time to give him a chance. I'm not a big fan of throwing a rookie QB into the fire, but they only have three games left. I know that if given the chance, Troy Smith can become the QB the Ravens have been looking for all these years.

Ok, I'm sorry, but that was sooooooooo beutiful. I need a moment

BTW, welcome to the Raven's Board

[OSUTroy10]

Pardon me if I am interrupting, but when you are done with the petition in Bmore, please send it to Ohio. We'll add several thousand more pages of signitures for you.

[Mazda]

Lol, if you can bring anyone here, your more than welcome to.

[mross34]

I know I'd be a Ravens fan if Troy was QBing. It's funny that you're getting all these spurned Browns fans who have hated the Ravens to root for you guys just cause Buckeye blood runs that deep.

[Mazda]

I know I'd be a Ravens fan if Troy was QBing. It's funny that you're getting all these spurned Browns fans who have hated the Ravens to root for you guys just cause Buckeye blood runs that deep.

I think it's because their board is either unorgainized, or sucks. Whats good about Troy is that he is very good at avoiding pressure.

[TroyHeismanSmith]

I am an Ohio State fan, and am here on this forum on behalf of Troy Smith.

I have watched Troy play many big games at Ohio State, and there is only thing I can say about the guy: He is a winner.

As an Ohio State fan, you have one goal for the year, and that is to beat Michigan. Troy was 3-0 against them, stealing the show in all three games. He beat Texas IN Austin, beat Notre Dame in the Fiesta bowl, and lost only 1 game in the Big 10.

People may say he is too short to be a QB in the NFL, but I could really care less. He has an unbelievable feel for the game, a rocket arm, very good accuracy, and a great leader. He is completely calm under pressure, and can make the plays with both his arm and his leg. He is not a "running quarterback". He is a great pocket passer that has the wheels to take off and run. He is a slightly smaller version of Donovan McNabb.

Plus, the guy has all the class in the world. You can not say enough about the amount of respect he has for his coaches, teammates, opponents, and everyone he comes into contact with. He is a great person, and almost impossible not to like.

I know he didn't win the National Championship game, and to be honest, he had a pretty bad game. But that was not all his fault. His offensive line was being blown off the ball, his receivers weren't getting open (especially after Ginn got hurt), and overal OSU got outplayed.

In conclusion, the Ravens seriously need to start Troy for the remainder of this season. No offense, but Baltimore's season is pretty much over, and Troy deserves a shot to show what he can do before the Ravens go into the off-season and think about drafting a big-name QB. He has the ability to be the leader of Baltimore's future, and he will prove himself, just like he did when he made a name for himself in college.

Thanks. Best of luck to the Ravens and count me in for the Petition to start Troy Smith.

[Tonymontana45]

I for one want to see Troy start against starters and have a full game of experience this year, so I say start Smith

[Raven07]

there's no doubt in my mind that Troy will start soon....next season would be the most logical....seeing how this season is virtually over and having Troy come in during the 3rd quarter...seems to be the only real option to go with at this point in time because it allows him the chance to sit back and watch the other Quarterbacks go at it...then he'll have the chance to go in and proove what he's just watched/learned from.....

Yes Start Smith by all means (im a ohio State Fan as well as Maryland) and Troy is a winner for sure and his collegiate record and overall performance speaks for itself but i still believe he is a Rookie...still learning the game....so allowing him to watch for at least 2 quarters and Then bring him in and show everyone what he's got...seems to be the most logical option to go with in my oppinon....i love Troy!

[Mazda]

Thank You All! Please keep coming in for the posts, even the OSU Fans. I myself am a Michigan Fan, but only because I hate Notre Dame (ALOT)

[bmorelover]

I think he should start as well.We have nothing to lose, playoff wise. The season is over anyway, lets see what he can do.

We will never know if he isn't given the chance.

[Troy Smith IS the future..]

seasons over, i co-sgin what raven07 said

[judge]

someone start an actual petition. Get everyone in your office to sign it, then fax it to someone else in a larger office, so on and so forth, then, when we get a few hundred, few thousand names, whatever, we'll fax it to the ravens front office, or mail it to them(or both)

Who volunteers to start the petition?

[minford]

I'm really excited to see Troy play more and see what he can offer us. It takes a special kind of player to get all these Ohio fans on a Ravens message board.

That being said, Boller still gives the Ravens the best chance to win games for the time being. He's more experienced and knows the offense better. But more importantly, Billick's offense is NOT suited for Troy's talents. We're gonna need a revamped offense/ new coordinator/ new playbook to fully take advantage of Troy's talents.

[Mazda]

I'm really excited to see Troy play more and see what he can offer us. It takes a special kind of player to get all these Ohio fans on a Ravens message board.

That being said, Boller still gives the Ravens the best chance to win games for the time being. He's more experienced and knows the offense better. But more importantly, Billick's offense is NOT suited for Troy's talents. We're gonna need a revamped offense/ new coordinator/ new playbook to fully take advantage of Troy's talents.

im all for that

[ReED jucate]

I'm a Troy fan too but I don't want people on here giving hime more credit than he has earned yet. He drove on a colts 2nd string prevent defense - which really isn't saying much. I would like to see him play more so we can see what else he can do in the NFL. Troy was a great college athlete and hopefully his small stature does not prevent him from having a succesful NFL career. I think we will see him come in again towards the end of the miami game. We do need a new playbook plus some healthy tightends so we can run our twin and triple TE plays.I also agree that we need a new Offensive coordinator - one that is preferrably the caliber of Rex Ryan is for defense.

[nevermore621]

im all for that

I believe Brian Billick may be right to start Kyle Boller one more time, but if he struggles, or the Ravens jump out to a commanding lead (wishful thinking???) I want to see Troy Smith in the game. Kyle has had opportunity after opportunity to show he can be a relaiable starter in the NFL, and has just not quite done it. He showed flashes of real NFL quality in the New England game, but in the end fell short. He has the skills, but does he have the nerve and the winning edge to get the job done??? Troy Smith was an absolute steal for a fifth rounder, and inspite of all this BS about size, I think DOES posseses the skills to be not only a starter in the NFL but a winner. Look at his college stats:

44 games, 670 attempts, 420 completions, 62.7% completion percentage, 5270 total yards, 54 TD's, and ONLY 13 interceptions, for a whopping 159.72 QB rating.

Add to his tenacity as a pocket passer, his rushing threat and you have defensive linemen, LB's, and safeties guessing on every play, especially on third down. Before we go into the offseason and think about adding another QB to the mix, the Ravens owe it to their fans and themselves to see where we stand with Troy, and the future of our QB situation. I hate to say it, but as much as everyone loves and respects Steve McNair and all he has meant to the NFL, to the Ravens, and to the history of the game, his skills have serously diminished, and he just can't seem to stay healthy anymore. I think the future is in the hands of Kyle Boller and Troy Smith. And with Troy's credentials, and numerous awards I think we have the possibility of a real future with him as a franchise Quarterback.

The season is all but over, the pressure is off. Let's see what Troy can do here at the end of the season.

[Thundergod]

Look at Boller: Banged up, throws INTS, looses fumbles, etc.

Now look at Troy Smith: 2/3 (that pass was just a little too far), 1 rushing TD in less than two and a half minutes.

Finally look at our record: 4-9, and no playoff hopes at all this season

Who do you think should start? We are playing Miami, and if we don't start Troy Smith, we'll most likely be a laughing stock. See what Smith can do, the season is ALREADY OVER.

To Brian Billick:

If you are reading this, go home, and look at the stat sheet!!!!!! Smith should start, he's an excellent QB, and is very good at scrambling. Please, if we are down 30-7, don't just put hope in Boller, let Troy put hope in US!!!

Listen it doesnt matter who starts next week against M.I.A its all about whose coaching next year if we have Billick next year as our coach, will WILL HAVE ANOTHER LOOSING SEASON NEXT YEAR INJURIES OR NO! we have a horrible coach and the players know it he's lost thier faith that he can put together a winning game plan. the team isnt underachieving the coach is..........can u believe i've actually considering marty shottenhiemer as a head coach!!!!!???? who do you guys think we can get to lead this team??????????

[ReED jucate]

Those stats can be misleading though. OSU had a cupcake season last year so the stats blew up. Being a pocket passer in the NFL is different than college now that ALL of his linemen are taller than him and he has a giant D-line in his face - makes it hard to see downfield. Again, not to take anything from Troy but he just hasn't proved himself yet in the NFL. Everyone sees Troy get a TD and they immediatley want him in. Everyone thought Boller was an answer but as last game showed us he is the same ol Boller - Amazing QB one game and horrible the next. Lets take it slow with Troy - No need to feed him to the dogs when we have 3/4 year to get him ready for next year. If McNair is healthy next year he will start.

[minford]

Listen it doesnt matter who starts next week against M.I.A its all about whose coaching next year if we have Billick next year as our coach, will WILL HAVE ANOTHER LOOSING SEASON NEXT YEAR INJURIES OR NO! we have a horrible coach and the players know it he's lost thier faith that he can put together a winning game plan. the team isnt underachieving the coach is..........can u believe i've actually considering marty shottenhiemer as a head coach!!!!!???? who do you guys think we can get to lead this team??????????

You haven't constructed an argument at all, you've just made a lot of ridiculous claims backed up by exclamation points and question marks.

[Thundergod]

Those stats can be misleading though. OSU had a cupcake season this year so the stats blew up. Being a pocket passer in the NFL is different than college now that ALL of his linemen are taller than him and he has a giant D-line in his face - makes it hard to see downfield. Again, not to take anything from Troy but he just hasn't proved himself yet in the NFL. Everyone sees Troy get a TD and they immediatley want him in. Everyone thought Boller was an answer but as last game showed us he is the same ol Boller - Amazing QB one game and horrible the next. Lets take it slow with Troy - No need to feed him to the dogs when we have 3/4 year to get him ready for next year. If McNair is healthy next year he will start.

you're right about everything you said buddy......except about troy's physical attributes. i got two words for u..........Doug Flutie-Drew Brees Flutie was under 6ft and Brees is right at 6ft with tall shoes, it doesnt take a lot of height to be successful in the NFL brees is still one of the most productive QB's in the game today id dont put much stock in a 6-4 QB imean look at the QBs weve had, Trent Dilfer 6-3 chris redman 6-3 boller is 6-2 height really isnt a factor unless u are talking about corners and WRs

[Raven07]

and to add to that....What Troy Lacks in the Height department...he most certainly makes up for in his overall playing making ability, Vision, speed, agility and what not.

[ReED jucate]

you're right about everything you said buddy......except about troy's physical attributes. i got two words for u..........Doug Flutie-Drew Brees Flutie was under 6ft and Brees is right at 6ft with tall shoes, it doesnt take a lot of height to be successful in the NFL brees is still one of the most productive QB's in the game today id dont put much stock in a 6-4 QB imean look at the QBs weve had, Trent Dilfer 6-3 chris redman 6-3 boller is 6-2 height really isnt a factor unless u are talking about corners and WRs

Good point about the height - I would think Smith will be better then both Flutie and Brees. That brings up another question though now that you mention Redmen and Dilfer - How many teams have a former Ravens QB?

[Raven07]

both players of which played well/ is playing well....as i said before...what Troy lacks in the height department....he makes up for in his overall play making ability, vision, overall skill,accuracy, vision and speed and agility. plus he bides enough time in the pocket by moving around enough so that he can get the better angle on a developing play so he can make the best decisions.

[Mazda]

Starting Smith will REALLY open up the pass. Think about it:

Dolphins Defense.... McGahee will attract a 4-3, and with Smith, they'll probably have to do a QB Spy