Playoffs-Next Up: Indianapolis Professional Football Team

[Indianapolitano]

[quote name='Militant X 1' date='11 January 2010 - 01:27 AM' timestamp='1263191270' post='338366']
i respect your perspective on frequenting other boards. and thanks for helping out my fellow Ravens fans with info for their Indy trip.

personally though...i NEVER go to any other teams sites...my thinking is..."for what?" but that is just me! however...i have noticed that we Ravens fans get TONS of fans for other teams coming here to our boards for some odd reason.
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Wow, mutual respect on a message board!

[CantBeStopped]

First off. I would like to thank the ravens for taking our long time rivals out of the playoffs. It was a dominate scoring game. But to think you will come into indy and do the same thing is flat out ridiculous. First off. I will say i picked the ravens to beat the pats. The pats lost the league rec. leader. No matter what anyone says that is a HUGE loss. Edelman isnt even close to Welker. Brady trusts Welker and not the back up. That would factor into why he had a very poor passing day. Also the Pats were very worn down. Our offense if completely fresh. Everyone will be ready to go saturday. Your d will not be able to play the same blitz game plan. Peyton eats the blitz alive. And as for the rust. Our team has been running first team o vs first team d all week. They wont be rusty and will be ready to brawl after having a perfect season stolen from them. Also, our d is better than the pats d. Our secondary is ten times better and Flacco is pretty nicked up and heap wont be 100%. Your passing game wont flourish. And we cant be beat by a 1 deminsional Offense. First game against us Ray Rice-75 yrds. Mgahee-25 yrds. Nothing do brag about. Peyton will not give the game away like Brady did. You will not score 24 points in the 1st quarter against us. And as for Colts fans coming on your Forum. Check our forum it is crawling with fans in purple and black

[Moderator 2]

Hurricane IKE took out the Texans stadium so prepped for the Texans as Joes second road trip and ended up with a Bye day. Joe was also 3rd on the depth chart, did not get the starting TC reps, Boller got hurt and Smith got sick so he was crowned starter. This game was played October 12 so it was his 5th start since then Joe has won 3 playoff games and played in the AFCCG. Not the same QB

[bmorehitshard]

Ravens are going to the SuperBowl and that's the [u][b]BOTTOM LINE[/b][/u]! Go Ravens, great win! Let's do it again!

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='CantBeStopped' date='11 January 2010 - 01:59 AM' timestamp='1263193173' post='338390']
First off. I would like to thank the ravens for taking our long time rivals out of the playoffs. It was a dominate scoring game. But to think you will come into indy and do the same thing is flat out ridiculous. First off. I will say i picked the ravens to beat the pats. The pats lost the league rec. leader. No matter what anyone says that is a HUGE loss. Edelman isnt even close to Welker. Brady trusts Welker and not the back up. That would factor into why he had a very poor passing day. Also the Pats were very worn down. Our offense if completely fresh. Everyone will be ready to go saturday. Your d will not be able to play the same blitz game plan. Peyton eats the blitz alive. And as for the rust. Our team has been running first team o vs first team d all week. They wont be rusty and will be ready to brawl after having a perfect season stolen from them. Also, our d is better than the pats d. Our secondary is ten times better and Flacco is pretty nicked up and heap wont be 100%. Your passing game wont flourish. And we cant be beat by a 1 deminsional Offense. First game against us Ray Rice-75 yrds. Mgahee-25 yrds. Nothing do brag about. Peyton will not give the game away like Brady did. You will not score 24 points in the 1st quarter against us. And as for Colts fans coming on your Forum. Check our forum it is crawling with fans in purple and black
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the Colts beating the Ravens by 2pts in the regular season is nothing for you Colts fans to brag about! smh! if you cats think that the Ravens will "attempt" to use the same game plan that they had against the Patriots on the Colts...then you cats are the fools!

and all of this "you won't do this against us talk" you are doing sounds just like the Patriots. did you notice the result? Tom Brady got booed! maybe....just maybe....Peyton's booing is next!

[CantBeStopped]

[quote name='Militant X 1' date='11 January 2010 - 02:18 AM' timestamp='1263194322' post='338403']
the Colts beating the Ravens by 2pts in the regular season is nothing for you Colts fans to brag about! smh! if you cats think that the Ravens will "attempt" to use the same game plan that they had against the Patriots on the Colts...then you cats are the fools!

and all of this "you won't do this against us talk" you are doing sounds just like the Patriots. did you notice the result? Tom Brady got booed! maybe....just maybe....Peyton's booing is next!
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Go back and watch the game. It wasnt as close as the score board showed. We were 1 yard away from winning 24-15 when a third string TE fumbled at the goal line.

[fade]

Hello Raven fans...first time poster...

Thought I would give you a take from a Colts fan point of view. I could write a book about the move of the Colts till this game. But I will just say the Colts have transformed Indiana from a basketball, racing state to a football state. Which I really thought would never happen with the antics of Robert Irsay. And the NFL didnt want Colts in Indiana either for the longest time. I am glad the fans in Baltimore have forgiven us abit. We Colts fans do honor the Colts past as Baltimores Colts past. I could go on and on here for I will leave it at that.

Next up, the players that strike fear in Colts fans hearts. Lewis and Reed. Ray was injured last time we played and he looked great Sunday. Reed is a turnover machine and is the Colts biggest threat.

How do you beat the Colts? Get a early lead. Run North and South. Get to Peyton and he will fall to the ground before you even touch him. Limit your pentalties because you know the Colts will. Get turnovers which I know you will. So will the Colts. Keep Clark out of the game by covering the middle. Dont let Reggie get over the top. Make the Colts run the ball.

You cant just run on the Colts like teams did in the past, just ask Miami. Sure you can get some yards but Colts will stiffen towards the goal line. Colts run defense is better than what they get credit for. They HAVE to stop the big play running game though. Ravens are going to have to pass to beat the Colts and this is where I would be worried if I was a Raven fan.

Either team can win this game. It will all come down to who plays the best Saturday. Maybe even who gets the ball last.

[Moderator 2]

[quote name='CantBeStopped' date='11 January 2010 - 01:59 AM' timestamp='1263193173' post='338390']....
[b]. Check our forum it is crawling with fans in purple and black
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No thanks.

[Radinho84]

i said it before the pats game and i will say it again. the regular season has nothing to do with the playoffs-just decides who will play them lol
the colts are a very good team but they will never dominate us. who thought we would dominate the pats that way. i hoped for it but wasn´t much sure about it. if we didn´t turn the ball over on that punt return- still don´t get it why they didn´t challange the pats hardly would have scored. our d was the best i saw for a long time and if they play like they did on sunday or even a little better we will be fine. i am not scared in any direction of the colts. we are a playoff kinda team. that means: we are able to play 100times better when it really counts. don´t think the colts could play any better like during the season just because they played their best football all season long. we saw everything they have during the season what u cannot say about us as u watched the pats game. total different story if u ask me!!!

what if we win the next game and so do the jets. where will we play them? at home or in ny??
it is time to be confident now! it´s only good for us if the colts prepare against the regular season ravens like the pats did cause we all know what happens then!!!!

[admartian]

[quote name='CantBeStopped' date='11 January 2010 - 06:59 PM' timestamp='1263193173' post='338390']
First off. I would like to thank the ravens for taking our long time rivals out of the playoffs. It was a dominate scoring game. But to think you will come into indy and do the same thing is flat out ridiculous. First off. I will say i picked the ravens to beat the pats. The pats lost the league rec. leader. No matter what anyone says that is a HUGE loss. Edelman isnt even close to Welker. Brady trusts Welker and not the back up. That would factor into why he had a very poor passing day. Also the Pats were very worn down. Our offense if completely fresh. Everyone will be ready to go saturday. Your d will not be able to play the same blitz game plan. Peyton eats the blitz alive. And as for the rust. Our team has been running first team o vs first team d all week. They wont be rusty and will be ready to brawl after having a perfect season stolen from them. Also, our d is better than the pats d. Our secondary is ten times better and Flacco is pretty nicked up and heap wont be 100%. Your passing game wont flourish. And we cant be beat by a 1 deminsional Offense. First game against us Ray Rice-75 yrds. Mgahee-25 yrds. Nothing do brag about. Peyton will not give the game away like Brady did. You will not score 24 points in the 1st quarter against us. And as for Colts fans coming on your Forum. Check our forum it is crawling with fans in purple and black
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Yeah, Peyton will definitely be a tougher nut to crack. Crackable, but it'll be very hard.

I think the key is to force KEY turnovers. What that means is pressuring Manning and making him think that he's not able to get what he wants - i.e.e key hits and stops on 3rd downs, no downfield/long completions, broken drives, etc.

Easier said than done, I know. But I don't think we'll be able to rattle and sack Peyton as easy.

If the past games are anything to go buy, just pure, flat-out blitzing isn't going to faze Peyton. Things need to happen at key/opportune times; and in order to do that, we must come up with an adequate gameplan, and [size="5"][u]STAY DISCIPLINED!!!![/u][/size]
[quote name='CantBeStopped' date='11 January 2010 - 07:33 PM' timestamp='1263195188' post='338413']
Go back and watch the game. It wasnt as close as the score board showed. We were 1 yard away from winning 24-15 when a third string TE fumbled at the goal line.
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The same could be said for the Ravens, at any given moment.

If only, if only - if only my auntie had bollocks she'd be me uncle.

(Sorry, just really wanted to use that)
[quote name='fade' date='11 January 2010 - 07:35 PM' timestamp='1263195328' post='338414']
Hello Raven fans...first time poster...

Thought I would give you a take from a Colts fan point of view. I could write a book about the move of the Colts till this game. But I will just say the Colts have transformed Indiana from a basketball, racing state to a football state. Which I really thought would never happen with the antics of Robert Irsay. And the NFL didnt want Colts in Indiana either for the longest time. I am glad the fans in Baltimore have forgiven us abit. We Colts fans do honor the Colts past as Baltimores Colts past. I could go on and on here for I will leave it at that.

Next up, the players that strike fear in Colts fans hearts. Lewis and Reed. Ray was injured last time we played and he looked great Sunday. Reed is a turnover machine and is the Colts biggest threat.

How do you beat the Colts? Get a early lead. Run North and South. Get to Peyton and he will fall to the ground before you even touch him. Limit your pentalties because you know the Colts will. Get turnovers which I know you will. So will the Colts. Keep Clark out of the game by covering the middle. Dont let Reggie get over the top. Make the Colts run the ball.

You cant just run on the Colts like teams did in the past, just ask Miami. Sure you can get some yards but Colts will stiffen towards the goal line. Colts run defense is better than what they get credit for. They HAVE to stop the big play running game though. Ravens are going to have to pass to beat the Colts and this is where I would be worried if I was a Raven fan.

Either team can win this game. It will all come down to who plays the best Saturday. Maybe even who gets the ball last.
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You see, I'm scared too. Mainly of our passing attack. A helathy Joe may have been able to do it (provided his WRs find a way to get open) but I'm not so sure a 50/50 Flacco/or 100% Troy Smith could.

The key is the running game. If the Colts smash our faces in the 1st half and limit us to about a 2-3 yard average then we're in trouble.

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

Great effort today, I'm so proud of the team. We must bring this intensity and execution to every game though, it doesn't get any easier...

I do think Manning will audible plays if he sees certain formations, he's the master of reading and reacting to different defensive looks. I think taking away Dallas Clark will be key next week - he is what Welker is to Brady; a safety blanket with excellent hands and superb route running.

[funky141]

[quote]Indianapolitano, on 11 January 2010 - 01:06 AM, said:

I'll give you that. the Colts only won by 2 and luck seemed to be on their side too.
But that was in Baltimore. What was the score in Lucas Oil Stadium last year? Something like 31-3, I don't remember it exactly


Against a rookie QB in his fourth start? and all the turmoil of the botched bye? Things are a bit different now.[/quote]

The rookie QB is now in his second season and struggling and add the he is a little banged up.

[domingus]

Hello again, Ravens fans. Firstly, kudos on bouncing the Patriots. What a beating! The Ravens flat out just wanted it more and it showed from start to finish. If they play like that from here on out, they will be incredibly tough to beat.

While reading through this thread, I've noticed that people keep bringing up the game in November. Honestly, you can't even compare. They are both different teams now than they were then. For the Ravens, Suggs did not even play in that one. The player who is far and beyond their best pass rusher. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think he may have made a difference. And for the Colts, they were without Kelvin Hayden in that one, who is their best corner. If I remember correctly, Donald Brown also missed that game (although he has missed so many this year that I forget which ones he actually played in). So expect to see entirely different game plans out of both teams on each side of the ball.

The Ravens were able to get plenty of pressure on Tom Brady yesterday due largely in part to the Patriots' insistence on running four and five wide receiver sets the majority of the time. Sure, that can be a great way to spread out a defense and move the ball. But the Ravens are a good enough defense to disrupt that. I think the Jets' defense would have done the same thing. My point is, the Colts put a much bigger focus on pass protection than the Patriots do. You won't see much, if any, 4-5 wide sets out of Indy. There will pretty much always be a running back in the backfield purely to block and there will also be times when Clark is in the backfield with Addai/Brown in a split-back set.

My guess is that we are going to see Flacco throw the ball an awful lot more in this game than he did against the Patriots. The Ravens ran the ball extremely effectively against the Pats, but you can blame some of that on New England's refusal to stack the box on a consistent basis. I have no idea why they didn't do that, but it played right into the Ravens' hands. The Colts have been so awful against the run for years that they will never hesitate to put a safety in the box. I fully expect to see Melvin Bullitt essentially be a fourth linebacker for a large part of this game. Flacco will need to make some plays with his arm in this game. He is certainly capable of doing that, but if it boils down to him needing to win the game rather than Rice/McGahee/McClain doing it, I like Indy's chances.

I'm very excited about this one. I'm thinking it'll be another low-scoring game that may very well boil down to who has the ball last. As usual, here's to a great game with no injuries...

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='funky141' date='11 January 2010 - 08:07 AM' timestamp='1263215234' post='338479']
The rookie QB is now in his second season and struggling and add the he is [b]really banged up and can barely walk.[/b]
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Fixed that for ya

[Ed_Reed20]

One thing I'll be interested to see is how Oher and Gaither do against Freeney and Mathis. ESPN was talking about how Freeney and Mathis would be bringing heat off the edge but they forget, not only did neither of them have sack in the first game the teams met, they didn't even register a tackle.

Flacco played a pretty good game back in Week 11 and his only mistake was the interception. Hopefully, Cam comes back up with a good gameplan that allows Joe to make quick reads and get the ball out fast.Regardless, if the line continues to maul the way they have the past few weeks, I see no reason why the Ravens shouldn't pound the rock inside all game long.

On defense, I'm actually confident Foxworth can match-up with Wayne. The keys will be what the other guys do against Clark, Garcon and even Collie.

The front four brought pressure but needs to be that much better next week.

[Twoo]

For the first time in a long time the Colts have showed they have blatant weaknesses. They rely entirely on Peyton's arm- which is obvious when they have the 32nd (worst) ranked rush offense in the NFL. They're averaging 26 points a game and allowing 19, and Peyton has had to make 9 4th quarter comeback wins.

A team can not win a championship solely on the arm of their quarterback. If the Ravens play at the level (defensively) they have been playing as of late- I expect them to sack Peyton and the almighty Colts. This is my completely unbiased opinion (seriously). Peyton will go down as one of the (if not THE) best quarterbacks to ever play the game- but you're only as good as the players around you, and the Colts have some major holes in their defense.

[domingus]

[quote name='Twoo' date='11 January 2010 - 09:55 AM' timestamp='1263221704' post='338525']
For the first time in a long time the Colts have showed they have blatant weaknesses. They rely entirely on Peyton's arm- which is obvious when they have the 32nd (worst) ranked rush offense in the NFL. They're averaging 26 points a game and allowing 19, and Peyton has had to make 9 4th quarter comeback wins.

A team can not win a championship solely on the arm of their quarterback. If the Ravens play at the level (defensively) they have been playing as of late- I expect them to sack Peyton and the almighty Colts. This is my completely unbiased opinion (seriously). Peyton will go down as one of the (if not THE) best quarterbacks to ever play the game- but you're only as good as the players around you, and the Colts have some major holes in their defense.
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For the first time in a long time? I'm not so sure about that. Their weakness through nearly all of Dungy's tenure was the run defense. In the '99-'05 era, they relied too heavily on the big play. You're right about the Colts' running game being their weakness, but that's not exactly new either. It was their weakness last season as well. However, I feel like this season's rushing attack is better.

The Colts don't run the ball very effectively, but if you watch their games, they really don't try to either. I'm too lazy to look up the statistic, but I would guess that the Colts are among the NFL's teams with the least amount of rushing attempts per game.

Make no mistake about it, the Colts [i]can[/i] run the ball. If they need it, they can make it happen. But the fact of the matter is, they have more confidence in Manning's arm. Their offensive line is built to pass protect, not pound it 30-40 times a game. Every team has an identity and as usual, the Colts' identity is a team that has a pass-first mentality.

[Twoo]

[quote name='domingus' date='11 January 2010 - 10:08 AM' timestamp='1263222509' post='338541']
For the first time in a long time? I'm not so sure about that. Their weakness through nearly all of Dungy's tenure was the run defense. In the '99-'05 era, they relied too heavily on the big play. You're right about the Colts' running game being their weakness, but that's not exactly new either. It was their weakness last season as well. However, I feel like this season's rushing attack is better.

The Colts don't run the ball very effectively, but if you watch their games, they really don't try to either. I'm too lazy to look up the statistic, but I would guess that the Colts are among the NFL's teams with the least amount of rushing attempts per game.

Make no mistake about it, the Colts [i]can[/i] run the ball. If they need it, they can make it happen. But the fact of the matter is, they have more confidence in Manning's arm. Their offensive line is built to pass protect, not pound it 30-40 times a game. Every team has an identity and as usual, the Colts' identity is a team that has a pass-first mentality.
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I guess Saturday will tell how the Colts 2nd ranked passing offense and 32nd ranked rushing offense matches up against the Ravens 8th ranked passing defense and 5th ranked rushing defense.

[funky141]

[quote]For the first time in a long time? I'm not so sure about that. Their weakness through nearly all of Dungy's tenure was the run defense. In the '99-'05 era, they relied too heavily on the big play. You're right about the Colts' running game being their weakness, but that's not exactly new either. It was their weakness last season as well. However, I feel like this season's rushing attack is better.

The Colts don't run the ball very effectively, but if you watch their games, they really don't try to either. I'm too lazy to look up the statistic, but I would guess that the Colts are among the NFL's teams with the least amount of rushing attempts per game.

Make no mistake about it, the Colts can run the ball. If they need it, they can make it happen. But the fact of the matter is, they have more confidence in Manning's arm. Their offensive line is built to pass protect, not pound it 30-40 times a game. Every team has an identity and as usual, the Colts' identity is a team that has a pass-first mentality. [/quote]

The Colts run just enough to keep defenses honest and to set up play action passes.
I see many passes going Dallas Clarks way and the 2nd yr WR P. Garcon to have a big day. The Colts added beef this past year to sure up the defensive front, it's not top 10 but okay.

[Holden89]

Hey, everybody.

First off, let me say congratulations for totally dominating the Patriots yesterday. Your boys put on a great show.

Anyway, I just wanted to say good luck in our game next week, and let's hope for an epic injury-free game. I worry a lot about any rust we may have against your aggressive defense. We can't afford to get too far behind early against a running game as good as yours....

One other thing: Is Todd Heap okay? He looked like he was in a lot of pain.

[Twoo]

There's a playoffs thread at the top (pinned) with quite a few Colts fans in it already =)

[Holden89]

[quote name='Twoo' date='11 January 2010 - 10:25 AM' timestamp='1263223514' post='338552']
There's a playoffs thread at the top (pinned) with quite a few Colts fans in it already =)
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Haha, how did I miss that? Thanks. Mods, you can delete this if you want.

[Ravnet]

Hey! Thanks for this!

I really love how the Colts play! Peyton Manning is a class-act and definitely scares me!

The Colts could have gone undefeated this year! I have nothing but respect but Indianapolis!

Good luck next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Holden89]

Well, First off, let me say congrats for beating up on the Patriots.

This should be a great game. Yeah, you pressured and hit Brady a lot, but they also do a lot more slow-developing plays than the Colts do. I'm not sure if your corners can stay with our Receivers on quick routes. Manning is better against the blitz than Brady is, IMO, and he will probably burn you a few times. Yeah, we're 32nd in rushing, but that's almost by choice. We have ran the ball very effectively when we've wanted too, but we use short passes more than the run.

Our defense is very underrated. I like our D against your run game better than the Pats D because we're faster. That long run doesn't happen against us, because SOMEONE would have ran Ray Rice down. (Did I mention he is an absolute beast yet?)

My biggest fear is coming out rusty and getting down quick just like the Patriots did...If that happens, the Ravens WILL win. If not...I think the Colts win.

Anyway, good luck to everyone, I just hope it's not a blow-out for either side...I don't want to be bored, lol.

[domingus]

[quote name='funky141' date='11 January 2010 - 10:14 AM' timestamp='1263222845' post='338547']
The Colts run just enough to keep defenses honest and to set up play action passes.
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That's exactly it. The Colts pass the ball more, yes. But they are by no means one-dimensional. But people see that it's the last ranked rushing attack and automatically assume that they can't run it.

Addai and Brown (and maybe even Simpson/Hart) are going to get plenty of carries in this one. Baltimore likes to employ the Romeo Crennel-esque deep safeties, keep everything in front of you approach against the Colts to minimize Manning's big play ability. This opens up the running game and the play-action.

If the Ravens come into this game not respecting the Colts' run, they are going to find out quickly that the Colts [i]can[/i] run the ball.

[ravensgirl20]

[quote name='Indianapolitano' date='11 January 2010 - 01:02 AM' timestamp='1263189739' post='338348']
It is most certainly OUR team now. We didn't steal them, they just came here. What were we going to say, No? [/quote]

Keep em and the owner. Who said we wanted or needed them back? Quote the Raven "NEVERMORE"



I have complete faith in the ability of our team, we'll do all our talking on the field thank-you.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Holden89' date='11 January 2010 - 10:39 AM' timestamp='1263224361' post='338561']
Anyway, good luck to everyone, I just hope it's not a blow-out for either side...I don't want to be bored, lol.
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Thanks it should be a fun game. As a Ravens fans. This is what we are hoping for. Lately it seems like first round byes are actually weaknesses for a team. Add too it they haven't played a meaningful game in a while.

If the Ravens come out to Indy, smash them in the mouth early. Get some points on the board early. We have a chance to eke out a win against a sleeping giant who's just starting to wake up.

Much like we did last year, when we went into Tennessee.

[PuRock]

[quote name='domingus' date='11 January 2010 - 11:05 AM' timestamp='1263225958' post='338572']
Addai and Brown (and maybe even Simpson/Hart) are going to get plenty of carries in this one. Baltimore likes to employ the Romeo Crennel-esque deep safeties, keep everything in front of you approach against the Colts to minimize Manning's big play ability. This opens up the running game and the play-action.
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Our front seven is one of the best at stopping the run. They can do it on their own unlike teams like the Colts who need help from the safeties. So our safeties playing back will have little affect upon the run game.

Your run game scenario is coming straight from the incorrect way to play run defense. I'm sorry if that is the way your 24th rank rush defense needs to stop the run, but that's not us.

The question is for us, can we get the QB pressure. If we can't, then Manning picks us apart.

[TheRavenouseD2008]

ok lets take a retro look on this topic, yes we have never won in indy , we had never won in foxboro, no rookie qb head coach tandem had ever gone to the playofs 2 times together in both rookie and softmor year, next thing to look at another , yes suggs was out , and lets look at brady known almost as the same style qb as manning with a skirt instead of slacks, if the wrs are not tough and physical we may see the same result . pass rush may not get to manning but it may fluster him enough to throw off the timing routs much like baltimore did on sunday.

now lets take into account the rust factor not matter what if you dont play a contest you are not sharp. its like shooting a rifle if you dont pick one up sure you know how to use it but over time your reactions dull . now my bro inlaw is sending an email to my stepbroinlaw Jeff Burris you colts fans know him as #20 he is now an announcer for buffalo , to be honest he told my fatherinlaw that the tactic of sitting before the play offs can be a bad idea, more injuries are caused by sitting not only that the loss shows what the second string can do in the last game. and it all goes back to the Reaction factor.

now lets get to the nitty gritty on the run defense of the colts , they will need to get off the line faster then baltimore there is a risk here , too soon = penalty , to late = steam rolled, to generate a big push into the ravens you will need to keep the Oline lower then the d , reason you get them high you lose rice you lose him you get beat big, now on passing plays once again you lose rice or mcclain you lose out again you focus only on them you lose williams clayton wasghington or mason, both qbs were dealing with 10+mph winds yesterday and a rock solid ground and ball.

next issue for the colts ball controll, keeping it out of the hands of joe , this means THEY MUST RUN. with thier rushing attack this will be a definate problem. ngata pryce suggs and elerbe seem intent on making backs not want the ball and up the middle there is the rock , the machine and the man who knows more then just football ray lewis. now here is the problem you just became a one dimensional team on the wrong dimension.


hope this clarifies anything.........

[domingus]

[quote name='PuRock' date='11 January 2010 - 11:14 AM' timestamp='1263226446' post='338576']
Our front seven is one of the best at stopping the run. They can do it on their own unlike teams like the Colts who need help from the safeties. So our safeties playing back will have little affect upon the run game.

Your run game scenario is coming straight from the incorrect way to play run defense. I'm sorry if that is the way your 24th rank rush defense needs to stop the run, but that's not us.

The question is for us, can we get the QB pressure. If we can't, then Manning picks us apart.
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I know the Ravens can stop the run with their front seven. They have great players there. However, would you agree that if you had to choose a spot on Baltimore's defense that is their weakness, it would be their secondary? Ed Reed is great, but then what? What I'm saying is that their secondary will need plenty of help from the linebackers to slow down the Colts' receivers. The Ravens' secondary is not what it used to be.

This is what leads me to believe that we will see the Colts run far more effectively than people think they even can. Fact of the matter is, for the Colts to win, they're probably going to have to do that. You aren't beating the Baltimore Ravens ONLY by passing the ball. Even in the dome, it just doesn't work like that.

You're correct that the real key to the game will be getting pressure on Manning. Suggs has the ability to do that, as does Ngata (one of my favorite non-Colts players in the league). The offensive line will certainly have their work cut out for them.

Man am I excited for this game...