Rex Ryan "we Should Be The Favorites"

[AwakenTheDemon]

So, the always talkative Rex Ryan has recently been running his mouth again. This time, when asked what he thought about his team not being considered to win the championship. He says, he believe his team should not only be expected to beat Cincinnati on saturday but be the favorites to win the Super Bowl.

[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8158d58d&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]Ryan Isn't Shy About Jets' Super Bowl Odds[/url]

I have grown incredibly tired of Ryan, ever since he became head coach of the Jets. Of course, he thought the Jets were the best team in the league as soon as he became their coach, and I'm sure going to the playoffs in his first year (with a lackluster rookie quarterback) is going straight to his head. Seems he doesn't realize that he only made the playoffs because the Colts rested their starters. Had Indy not sat their starters, do you honestly think the Jets still would have won? I don't. The Jets lucked out to even be in the playoffs, and most people realize that.

Best part of that article is "That's right. The guy who mistakenly thought the Jets were eliminated from the playoff picture after losing to the Atlanta Falcons three weeks ago believes his team can win it all."

That certainly sounds like a coach who should be favored to win the Super Bowl alright.

[theFRANCHISE]

Great job jinxing your team, Rex Ryan.

There's a fine line between confidence and being a blowhard. Ryan's comments make him sound like the latter. I know that this is stuff that coaches will say to fire up the team and deflect unnecessary media attention away from the players, but to be that bold on such a public stage is a bit pointless and adds further motivation to the opposing team. You never give the opposing team anything they could use, because motivation is one of those things that you can never underestimate in a sport played with emotion.

If Rex Ryan wants to look like an idiot at the end of the season, then so be it. And if he proves everyone wrong and wins the Super Bowl, then fine -- but that win, despite vindicating all of his comments for now, won't take away the fact that his mouth will eventually be his downfall.

[LilyRaven]

I really have to wonder about Rex's health. Before my father had his first big stroke, he had a series of little ones, TIAs. The thing that tipped us off that something was wrong was he started saying the most ridiculous things. Bold pronouncements, flip-flopping opinions, overly emotional, and borderline delusional.

All joking aside, I really hope that isn't the case and Rex is just full of hot air and bovine feces.

[AwakenTheDemon]

If the Jets do beat Cincinnati (which I can see happening if the Bengals don't get their act together quick), they're off to San Diego. I'm sorry, but that will be the nail in the Jets' coffin if they do get that far. The Chargers aren't going to rest their starters and let the Jets slide by.

The Jets' schedule was full of weak opponents: Bills (twice, thanks to the division match up. Although they did lose to them once), Carolina, Tampa Bay, Oakland, Tennessee (during their opening slump). Had the Patriots not slipped up early in the season, and the Colts not benched their best players, Ryan would have been looking at a 7-9, not 9-7 season.

The Jets lost to four non-play off teams (Dolphins 7-9, Bills 6-10, Falcons 9-7, Jaguars 9-7). If I remember correctly, the Falcons beat them after they had been eliminated from play off contention, while Jets were still fighting for a spot. The Ravens, however, lost to one non-play off team, the Steelers (9-7). However, the Steelers were still in the hunt and needed a win badly to stay in it.

There is not one thing about the Jets that suggests a play off team to me. Sanchez isn't even showing the poise that Flacco was showing last year around this time. So if Rex is thinking he can pull a rookie head coach/rookie quarterback run like the Ravens he was on last year did, he's in for a rude awakening.

[YYZ66]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='07 January 2010 - 01:25 AM' timestamp='1262841908' post='332973']
Great job jinxing your team, Rex Ryan.

[b]There's a fine line between confidence and being a blowhard[/b]. Ryan's comments make him sound like the latter. I know that this is stuff that coaches will say to fire up the team and deflect unnecessary media attention away from the players, but to be that bold on such a public stage is a bit pointless and adds further motivation to the opposing team. You never give the opposing team anything they could use, because motivation is one of those things that you can never underestimate in a sport played with emotion.

If Rex Ryan wants to look like an idiot at the end of the season, then so be it. And if he proves everyone wrong and wins the Super Bowl, then fine -- but that win, despite vindicating all of his comments for now, won't take away the fact that his mouth will eventually be his downfall.
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Definitely the latter. Being confident is one thing, being completely arrogant is another.

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' date='07 January 2010 - 02:03 AM' timestamp='1262844201' post='332981']
If the Jets do beat Cincinnati (which I can see happening if the Bengals don't get their act together quick), they're off to San Diego. I'm sorry, but that will be the nail in the Jets' coffin if they do get that far. The Chargers aren't going to rest their starters and let the Jets slide by.

The Jets' schedule was full of weak opponents: Bills (twice, thanks to the division match up. Although they did lose to them once), Carolina, Tampa Bay, Oakland, Tennessee (during their opening slump). Had the Patriots not slipped up early in the season, and the Colts not benched their best players, Ryan would have been looking at a 7-9, not 9-7 season.

The Jets lost to four non-play off teams (Dolphins 7-9, Bills 6-10, Falcons 9-7, Jaguars 9-7). If I remember correctly, the Falcons beat them after they had been eliminated from play off contention, while Jets were still fighting for a spot. The Ravens, however, lost to one non-play off team, the Steelers (9-7). However, the Steelers were still in the hunt and needed a win badly to stay in it.

There is not one thing about the Jets that suggests a play off team to me. Sanchez isn't even showing the poise that Flacco was showing last year around this time. So if Rex is thinking he can pull a rookie head coach/rookie quarterback run like the Ravens he was on last year did, he's in for a rude awakening.
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I kind of think the Bengals will win this week. I don't see Sanchez surviving in the "hostile" environment that will be Cincy this weekend. But if that should happn, I agree, there's no way they're flying across country to face San Diego and coming out of there with a win.

[Child Of Humanity]

This is exactly why I think the Defensive ratings and offensive ratings are garbage. The Jets have the number one defense. But if they played mediocre teams for most of the season, why wouldn't they have the number one defense. They managed to stop teams that were not very good. Wonder how their defense would rate if the had to play the AFCN black and blue division twice each year. To say the things he is saying before they even play their first game is rather arragant. The Colts and the Bengals both laid down and paved their pathway to the playoffs. No matter what he says, they backed in with a lucky schedule catching two teams at the end with nothing to play for so they rested their teams.


[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' date='07 January 2010 - 01:03 AM' timestamp='1262844201' post='332981']
The Jets' schedule was full of weak opponents: Bills (twice, thanks to the division match up. Although they did lose to them once), Carolina, Tampa Bay, Oakland, Tennessee (during their opening slump). Had the Patriots not slipped up early in the season, and the Colts not benched their best players, Ryan would have been looking at a 7-9, not 9-7 season.[/quote]

[MagicianCamille]

Oh lawd, every week you guys are crying your eyes out about Rex Ryan.

Last week it's "How dare he talk up his player instead of ours!"

This week it's "HE BELIEVES IN HIS TEAM. WHAT A JERK."

Seriously guys. Stop. Crying. The man speaks his mind. It's your problem that you can't handle it, not his.

[AwakenTheDemon]

Who's "crying" here? It's hardly no one being able to handle what Ryan is saying, nor is it "believing in his team". There's a difference between having belief in your team to be able to win, and spouting off telling everyone your lackluster team should be the favorites to win the Super Bowl. There's a fine line between arrogance and inspiring your team, or believing in your team.

Ryan's attitude isn't even backed by his team's performance. Tell me how his team is more justified in being Super Bowl favorites over teams such as the Colts, Chargers, Vikings, or even the Saints? That's arrogance. When you're telling the world that your 9-7 team that only got into the post season thanks to playoff bound teams resting their guys should be favorites to win it all over a team such as the Colts who could have been 16-0 had their Coaching staff not sat their starters, or the Chargers who finished the season on an 11 game winning streak? Ryan is going to need to install a new filter between his mind and his mouth or else he's going to make himself look more and more foolish as the years go on.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Child Of Humanity' date='07 January 2010 - 03:19 AM' timestamp='1262852358' post='333005']
This is exactly why I think the Defensive ratings and offensive ratings are garbage. The Jets have the number one defense. But if they played mediocre teams for most of the season, why wouldn't they have the number one defense. They managed to stop teams that were not very good. Wonder how their defense would rate if the had to play the AFCN black and blue division twice each year. To say the things he is saying before they even play their first game is rather arragant. The Colts and the Bengals both laid down and paved their pathway to the playoffs. No matter what he says, they backed in with a lucky schedule catching two teams at the end with nothing to play for so they rested their teams.
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You have to give them some credit though. They completely shut down the number one offense in the league (Houston) and kept Drew Brees and Tom Brady without touchdown passes (at least in the first meeting). The team may be mediocre, but the defense is good.

The AFC North isn't exactly known for it's high flying offenses, so his defense would probably fare well (in fact, it did). The Browns have a horrid offense, the Bengals score less than 20 points per game, and the Patriots probably put up more points than the Ravens and Steelers.

[Child Of Humanity]

I do give the Jets credit. I said they are a slightly better than mediocre team. But again you help prove my point. The Bengals (In the AFCN) only put up 20 points a game average. Could that be because they play defenses like the Steelers and the Ravens and the Vikings and on and on and on. They played a MUCH harder sechedule than the Jets. Of course their points per game is low. I am in no way saying the Bengals will win this game Saturday. I believe it will be a hard fought battle. But I can GUARANTEE the Jets will not stomp them as they did Sunday night when nothing mattered for the Bengals except staying away from Houston in the playoff. A team that already crushed them in Cincinnati once this year.

[quote name='darklight1216' date='07 January 2010 - 06:52 AM' timestamp='1262865153' post='333029']
You have to give them some credit though. They completely shut down the number one offense in the league (Houston) and kept Drew Brees and Tom Brady without touchdown passes (at least in the first meeting). The team may be mediocre, but the defense is good.

The AFC North isn't exactly known for it's high flying offenses, so his defense would probably fare well (in fact, it did). The Browns have a horrid offense, the Bengals score less than 20 points per game, and the Patriots probably put up more points than the Ravens and Steelers.
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[darklight1216]

[quote name='Child Of Humanity' date='07 January 2010 - 11:25 AM' timestamp='1262881519' post='333114']
I do give the Jets credit. I said they are a slightly better than mediocre team. But again you help prove my point. The Bengals (In the AFCN) only put up 20 points a game average. [b]Could that be because they play defenses like the Steelers and the Ravens and the Vikings and on and on and on.[/b] They played a MUCH harder sechedule than the Jets. Of course their points per game is low. I am in no way saying the Bengals will win this game Saturday. I believe it will be a hard fought battle. But I can GUARANTEE the Jets will not stomp them as they did Sunday night when nothing mattered for the Bengals except staying away from Houston in the playoff. A team that already crushed them in Cincinnati once this year.
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Nah... the Ravens and Steelers are in the same division and face almost the same schedule (arguably tougher), yet average 24.4 and 23 points per game. The Bengals just don't have a prolific offense so it's not really surprising that the number one defense in the league gave them a run for their money.

Rex has only been a coach for one year and I'm already tired of him. Can you imagine how much he's going to run his mouth next year when he faces the Ravens?

[H8R]

I'm just glad the RAVENS dont have to deal with these empty promises from Rex....

[FerrariFan87]

I'll always like Rex and appreciate the confidence he has in his guys, but enough is enough. Just be quiet and play football.

[Guest I-70WestRaven]

Let Rex run his mouth all he want's, he ain't our coach, and this is the reason why! Nobody wants their head coach out there being just plain arrogant. Read Franchise's post, I think it could'nt be put any better than that! We got better things to focus on than him, for now!

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='07 January 2010 - 12:40 PM' timestamp='1262886057' post='333163']
Nah... the Ravens and Steelers are in the same division and face almost the same schedule (arguably tougher), yet average 24.4 and 23 points per game. The Bengals just don't have a prolific offense so it's not really surprising that the number one defense in the league gave them a run for their money.

[b]Rex has only been a coach for one year and I'm already tired of him. Can you imagine how much he's going to run his mouth next year when he faces the Ravens?
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That's exactly how I feel about him. Especially after the whole Back and Forth With Channing Crowder. Not to mention how he had to make sure he went and told the press how he's not "intimidated" by Belichick's rings. Ryan seems more concerned about jawing to the press before each week's game than playing the game itself.

I've always been curious as to what Ryan will have to say when the Ravens play the Jets. Honestly, I don't expect him to be humble, or much from him at all. I do expect something about him wanting to show everyone how the Jets defense is what the Ravens defense was. How much more of a playmaker Revis is than Reed. Or how much better his linebackers are. Typical Ryan hot air, which is what Ryan is best at making. God help us all if the Ravens actually fall to the Jets next year. God help us more if the Jets and Ravens actually meet in the AFC Championship (highly unlikely, yes).

[SaVaGe]

Pretty sure the Jets are mathematically out of the playoffs.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' date='07 January 2010 - 02:03 PM' timestamp='1262891022' post='333219']
That's exactly how I feel about him. Especially after the whole Back and Forth With Channing Crowder. Not to mention how he had to make sure he went and told the press how he's not "intimidated" by Belichick's rings. Ryan seems more concerned about jawing to the press before each week's game than playing the game itself.

I've always been curious as to what Ryan will have to say when the Ravens play the Jets. Honestly, I don't expect him to be humble, or much from him at all. I do expect something about him wanting to show everyone how the Jets defense is what the Ravens defense was. How much more of a playmaker Revis is than Reed. Or how much better his linebackers are. Typical Ryan hot air, which is what Ryan is best at making. [b]God help us all if the Ravens actually fall to the Jets next year. God help us more if the Jets and Ravens actually meet in the AFC Championship (highly unlikely, yes).[/b]
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I don't even want to think about that. It wouldn't be as shameful as being swept by a divisinal rival, but it would be close.

[SaVaGe]

On a serious note I believe if any team Ryan would show respect to the week of, it would be the Ravens. He may still run his mouth but to a lesser degree.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='SaVaGe' date='07 January 2010 - 02:58 PM' timestamp='1262894332' post='333283']
On a serious note I believe if any team Ryan would show respect to the week of, it would be the Ravens. He may still run his mouth but to a lesser degree.
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In the week before the Ravens played the Jets in the preseason, Rex Ryan expressed his displeasure at the number Paul Kruger wore. Maybe that's mild for Rex, but I was annoyed by it.

[AwakenTheDemon]

Oh yeah, how he was offended they'd give Mike McCrary's number to a rookie "who hasn't proved anything". I said it once, I'll say it again, Ryan should be focused on his own team and stop concerning himself with other teams, especially the Ravens. He's not a part of this organization. But you're right, after some of his statements as the season went on, the Paul Kruger comment was mild, but still irritating.

[MagicianCamille]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' date='07 January 2010 - 05:48 AM' timestamp='1262861318' post='333014']
Who's "crying" here?[/quote]

The four people who downrated me 'cause they took offense to me calling them out. Also, there's a Rex Ryan thread *every week*. The man likes to talk big about his team. So what? How does it affect anyone else?


[quote]It's hardly no one being able to handle what Ryan is saying, nor is it "believing in his team". There's a difference between having belief in your team to be able to win, and spouting off telling everyone your lackluster team should be the favorites to win the Super Bowl. There's a fine line between arrogance and inspiring your team, or believing in your team. [/quote]

No. There really isn't. Everything he's said has been about him believing in his players. He doesn't *care* how the media and fans of other teams take his comments. You know why? Because they are not about THEM. His comments have always been about HIS TEAM. You criticize him for saying his "lackluster" team should be the favorites? What should he have said? "Oh, we're too lackluster to win in the playoffs." Or would your rather him just say nothing? That's not Rex Ryan's way. That wasn't his way when he was our Defensive coordinator and everyone loved him, and anyone who thought it wouldn't be his way when he became a head coach just never knew Rex Ryan.


[quote]Ryan's attitude isn't even backed by his team's performance. [b]Tell me how his team is more justified in being Super Bowl favorites over teams such as the Colts, Chargers, Vikings, or even the Saints? That's arrogance. When you're telling the world that your 9-7 team that only got into the post season thanks to playoff bound teams resting their guys should be favorites to win it all over a team such as the Colts who could have been 16-0 had their Coaching staff not sat their starters, or the Chargers who finished the season on an 11 game winning streak?[/b] Ryan is going to need to install a new filter between his mind and his mouth or else he's going to make himself look more and more foolish as the years go on.
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Uhh, right, because saying all of that would have been REAL INSPIRATIONAL.

"Sorry guys but there's just so many more deserving teams than us. We don't deserve this. No, you know what? We suck, in fact."

"Wow, thanks coach."

[AwakenTheDemon]

What should he have said? Oh, I don't know. How about... nothing? Just because you made the post season doesn't mean you have to run out to the press and tell everyone you should be the favorites. If you want to tell your team that to inspire them, that is your decision. But there's a difference between talking to your team and inspiring them, and running to the press and boasting. So yes, he should have kept his mouth shut to the press (and avoid looking like the fool that he is) and instead gone to his locker room and gave his speech there. Hell, watch the video on the home page of BR.com. Harbs is right there motivating his team in the locker room. Is he saying the Ravens should be the favorites? Or that we're the best team in the playoffs? No. He's telling his team everyone 0-0 now, it's the second season and let's make it our season, our time.

You don't see Harbaugh going to the media telling them the Ravens should be the favorites to win. Nor do you see Caldwell, Turner, Belichick, Phillips, Reid, Childress, Lewis, Whisenhunt, McCarthy, or Payton. Rex Ryan is the only coach to make such claims, and his team is also the team that many think got lucky even getting to the post season due to, as stated before, teams resting their best players.

And despite that you say, there is a fine line between the two. Ryan has crossed that line multiple times during the season. Not to mention, after (again telling the press) that he believed his Jets were eliminated from Playoff contention after losing to Atlanta, no one should listen to a word he has to say about his team going anywhere in the playoffs.

No one here is "crying" over what Ryan has to say. It's more a generalized feeling of annoyance. He made a bone headed statement to the press, and we're commenting on it. That, however, does not mean we're "crying" over what he has to say. Rex Ryan's loud mouth isn't worth fake tears.

[JoeFlax]

Jets got to sneak in because the Colts decided to pull Peyton off the field.. otherwise they wouldn't even be in it. Doesn't Rex know that?

[Child Of Humanity]

Nothing like motivating your Competition! Shut up and play the game!


[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' date='07 January 2010 - 12:18 AM' timestamp='1262841502' post='332966']
So, the always talkative Rex Ryan has recently been running his mouth again. This time, when asked what he thought about his team not being considered to win the championship. He says, he believe his team should not only be expected to beat Cincinnati on saturday but be the favorites to win the Super Bowl.

[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8158d58d&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]Ryan Isn't Shy About Jets' Super Bowl Odds[/url]

I have grown incredibly tired of Ryan, ever since he became head coach of the Jets. Of course, he thought the Jets were the best team in the league as soon as he became their coach, and I'm sure going to the playoffs in his first year (with a lackluster rookie quarterback) is going straight to his head. Seems he doesn't realize that he only made the playoffs because the Colts rested their starters. Had Indy not sat their starters, do you honestly think the Jets still would have won? I don't. The Jets lucked out to even be in the playoffs, and most people realize that.

Best part of that article is "That's right. The guy who mistakenly thought the Jets were eliminated from the playoff picture after losing to the Atlanta Falcons three weeks ago believes his team can win it all."

That certainly sounds like a coach who should be favored to win the Super Bowl alright.
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