Miscommuncication Issues...

[Ed_Reed20]

Earlier this hour, NFL Playbook broke down some plays during the Oakland game. Billick and Mayock showed good blocks from Yanda, Heap, Washington and Clayton that sprung or extended long runs from Rice and McGahee. However, they also showed some breakdowns in communications on both of sides of the ball that the team will need to addresss.

The first problem they showed was Oher and Gaither getting sucked inside(twice) when Oakland blitzed which caused Flacco to get sacked. While Flacco should make the necessary pre-snap adjustments and get rid of the ball quicker, the onus should be placed on the o-line as well.

The second problem Billick and Mayock broke down was the blown coverages on three passing plays. The first was the long catch and run where Chaz Schilens hurdled Carr. Schilens wasn't covered on the play. These breakdowns in coverage can't happen.

The two other plays shown were mistakes from Reed. On one play, Foxworth released Schilens towards Reed but Ed continued to bail and was ten yards off his man which led to the completion. The other play was the Miller TD where Reed tried to break underneath a curl route from Schilens. Had Reed stayed home, the worst thing that would've happen on the play was a pass deflection.

Obviously Ed has done this before but I really hope that he doesn't gamble this upcoming game. I believe the other issues can be fixed too.

[reediddy]

I dont like how Ed is gambling so much this year, he obviously hasn't been as effective. I want him to play his responsibilities against the Pats and not put our secondary in a jeopardizing situation

[20ReedsAll]

[quote name='reediddy' date='05 January 2010 - 07:21 PM' timestamp='1262737313' post='332117']
I dont like how Ed is gambling so much this year, he obviously hasn't been as effective. I want him to play his responsibilities against the Pats and not put our secondary in a jeopardizing situation
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Well that comes with Reed. Either you let him guess and use his instincts, or let him play "normal" and allow him to be mediocre. Its his gambling that has made Reed what Reed is; sometimes he'll give up a first down, sometimes he'll take one back for 6. It comes with all great players...the good and the bad, kinda like Peterson's aggressive play style and his fumbling. Whenever I see Reed make mistakes like that, honestly, it doesn't bother me. I know that he's tryin to make a play, and that eventually, he will. Like this Sunday, maybe?

[BigMike]

I think I said this on a few threads....RUN THE BALLLLLL!!!!!!

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='BigMike' date='05 January 2010 - 09:00 PM' timestamp='1262743212' post='332176']
I think I said this on a few threads....RUN THE BALLLLLL!!!!!!
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It isn't the that simple. Belichick knows the Ravens' O is at it's best when the running game is working. Do you really think he's going to leave only 7 in the box?

[edreedfromtheu]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='05 January 2010 - 09:39 PM' timestamp='1262745578' post='332207']
It isn't the that simple. Belichick knows the Ravens' O is at it's best when the running game is working. Do you really think he's going to leave only 7 in the box?
[/quote]

Actually, it IS that simple. Yes, the Patriots do know that the Ravens can run the ball. But if the Ravens are smart, they will still run it because the Patriots can't stop it. Willis McGahee absolutely OWNED the Patriots when we played them in 2007. And when it counted the most, Brian Billick took the ball out of his hands and put the ball in Kyle Bollers hands. McGahee hadn't been stopped all game, and Billick took it out of his hands.

We have an even better offensive line now, and we also have Ray Rice in addition to McGahee. And when they bring their safeties down to try and stop it... still run the ball. Every once in a while, hit Mason, Washington, and Heap. But I'd rather run it all day, keeping the Patriots to maybe 5 or 6 possessions all game. Keep Randy Moss frustrated early. Keep Brady and their offense out of rhythm.

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

I actually watch a lot of Panthers games also. This is one team that knows it's identity and truly sticks to it. I've seen them run into 8, even 9-man fronts... and still have success.

Although the Carolina offensive line with a healthy Gross and Otah is probably the best run blocking line in the NFL, we certainly have similar athletes along the line.

My point is, our linemen are molded to run the ball effectively, even against stacked boxes. There is nothing more demoralising than positive rushes against a stacked boxed.

I like the message this sends. It says our offense won't be dictated by your defence, we will do what we want and control this game.

I'm not saying ditch the pass, but run first and run it often - even if they know it's coming. Coincidentally, stacked boxes often result in big rushing gains if the rusher gets through - and with our linemen capable of controlling the line, I see Rice and McGahee both having great games.

[Mick0311]

[quote name='20ReedsAll' date='05 January 2010 - 06:49 PM' timestamp='1262742566' post='332168']
Well that comes with Reed. Either you let him guess and use his instincts, or let him play "normal" and allow him to be mediocre. Its his gambling that has made Reed what Reed is; sometimes he'll give up a first down, sometimes he'll take one back for 6. It comes with all great players...the good and the bad, kinda like Peterson's aggressive play style and his fumbling. Whenever I see Reed make mistakes like that, honestly, it doesn't bother me. I know that he's tryin to make a play, and that eventually, he will. Like this Sunday, maybe?
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I agree, I just hope he is not trying to overcompensate for the less than stellar year.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='05 January 2010 - 08:39 PM' timestamp='1262745578' post='332207']
It isn't the that simple. Belichick knows the Ravens' O is at it's best when the running game is working. Do you really think he's going to leave only 7 in the box?
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Reed needs to see the whole field this game and not have tunnel vision, or turn his back. And when in doubt just stick to your assignment. Let the front 7 dictate this game Ed.

[Perfekt]

as much as the sacks are the o-lines faught we can not over look the fact that flacco has been holding onto the ball to long. i would rather see him throw the ball out of bounds then take sack after sack. im hoping next season flacco will be better at scanning the field and see what the defense is giving him because alot of time he forces bad passes.


i can understand reed being out of position but we dont know the play that was called on defense so we dont know if he was out of position or not. i think mattison becomes a little more aggresive when he knows that reeds back there. when zibby was in we never really saw him playing up in coverage usaully he was always sitting back like reed use to do.


i dont feel its our year to win the superbowl but it doesnt mean i dont wish we do.

[RavensClaw52]

Run the ball yes but like I have seen with our coaches a lot this year when something stalls they resort to something else. If the Pats stuff the run you will see it turn into a pass happy gameplan and thats what is dangerous, especially in a playoff game, theres no second chances. Like many have already said, its about balance. I have faith in Cam and G-Matt that they will do whats best for the situation.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='RavensClaw52' date='06 January 2010 - 07:43 PM' timestamp='1262824993' post='332867']
[b]Run the ball yes but like I have seen with our coaches a lot this year when something stalls they resort to something else.[/b] If the Pats stuff the run you will see it turn into a pass happy gameplan and thats what is dangerous, especially in a playoff game, theres no second chances. Like many have already said, its about balance. I have faith in Cam and G-Matt that they will do whats best for the situation.
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That's what annoys me the most about Cam. There are times even when the run is working and he abandons it for whatever reason. It happened on the first against Oakland where where Rice ran for 10 yards on his first two carries and then Cam proceeded to call 3 pass plays in a row. For me, unless a team stops the run, you should NEVER abandon it.

On top of that, Joe isn't ready to carry an offense the way QBs like Rivers and Rodgers do.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='06 January 2010 - 07:10 PM' timestamp='1262826646' post='332877']
That's what annoys me the most about Cam. There are times even when the run is working and he abandons it for whatever reason. It happened on the first against Oakland where where Rice ran for 10 yards on his first two carries and then Cam proceeded to call 3 pass plays in a row. [b]For me, unless a team stops the run, you should NEVER abandon it. [/b]

On top of that, Joe isn't ready to carry an offense the way QBs like Rivers and Rodgers do.
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My sentiments exactly. A QB should never even throw a pass if your HB is gaining 5 yards or more on every carry. And until they stack 9 in the box you keep ramming it down their throats.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='20ReedsAll' date='05 January 2010 - 08:49 PM' timestamp='1262742566' post='332168']
Well that comes with Reed. Either you let him guess and use his instincts, or let him play "normal" and allow him to be mediocre. Its his gambling that has made Reed what Reed is; sometimes he'll give up a first down, sometimes he'll take one back for 6. It comes with all great players...the good and the bad, kinda like Peterson's aggressive play style and his fumbling. Whenever I see Reed make mistakes like that, honestly, it doesn't bother me. I know that he's tryin to make a play, and that eventually, he will. Like this Sunday, maybe?
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Though this is true of all great players, Reed's gambles this season have hurt the team more often than not.

I understand that a playmaker shouldn't be reined in and prevented from doing what he does best, but he needs to trust his teammates and let them do their job.

Reed will get his share of balls thrown his way in normal coverage and should exercise more patience. The more Reed gambles and misses, the more the entire defensive unit gets burned rather than just Reed himself. Notice how much more effective the secondary was without Reed in the lineup. Tom Zbikowski simply did what was asked of him, and he walked away with an INT or INTs negated by penalties in each of his starts.

Reed will get those same opportunities his way, but only if he plays the scheme the way it needs to be played. He needs to recognize that maybe the neck injury and the hip injury have affected his judgment a little bit. He needs to recognize that maybe he's playing with a little more hesitance than usual, and that's affecting his instinct. He needs to recognize that, above all else, his playmaking ability only works in this scheme when he trusts everyone else to do their job first.

[Sizzle]

On the TD i think Ed made a good Decision to go for the pick because the throw and catch was not something you wouldnt expect. Obviously Ed guessed wrong but i dont think thats a big deal, sometimes you get beat like that and other times it Turnovers.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='06 January 2010 - 11:04 PM' timestamp='1262840693' post='332962']
Though this is true of all great players, Reed's gambles this season have hurt the team more often than not.

I understand that a playmaker shouldn't be reined in and prevented from doing what he does best, but he needs to trust his teammates and let them do their job.

Reed will get his share of balls thrown his way in normal coverage and should exercise more patience. The more Reed gambles and misses, the more the entire defensive unit gets burned rather than just Reed himself. Notice how much more effective the secondary was without Reed in the lineup. Tom Zbikowski simply did what was asked of him, and he walked away with an INT or INTs negated by penalties in each of his starts.

Reed will get those same opportunities his way, but only if he plays the scheme the way it needs to be played. He needs to recognize that maybe the neck injury and the hip injury have affected his judgment a little bit. He needs to recognize that maybe he's playing with a little more hesitance than usual, and that's affecting his instinct. He needs to recognize that, above all else, his playmaking ability only works in this scheme when he trusts everyone else to do their job first.
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Reeds instincts are pressure instincts I would debate. Since coming to the team he's played in 3-4 schemes that brought the heat. Boulware and Suggs or AD and Suggs, then in 2008 you had manufactured pressure with Rex overloading one side with second level players. This year we dont have the same kind of pressure we used to, so his instincts and experience are telling him to jump the seam and shorter throws because hes used to the QB getting rid of the ball fast. However what really confuses me is in Oakland we ate alive their Oline and literally knocked Frye out of the game and yet Reed's instincts were still wrong because either Oakland was ready for pressure (dont know why they would if you've seen the Ravens play all year lol) and Frye was just chucking it up to where he thought was a 1 on 1 matchup and was somehow right.