Why Frank Walker Why?

[Crazyraven]

AMEN!!!!!!!! Get rid of him. NOW

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='BMOREHAWAII' date='02 January 2010 - 05:24 PM' timestamp='1262471083' post='328028']
Well if we make it to the playoffs, we have FW on the starting line-up. So all this negativity about his playing skill, doesnt help us at all in the playoffs. So keep ya head up about Walker boys, i have my doubts but we gotta think positive and prove the critics wrong. WOOHOO GO FRANK WALKER!
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We are not stuck with him though and that is the point. Why did we even bother signing Ivy? Shoot, give me Carr over Walker any day. If they make it to the post season they had better start ANYONE but FW at CB. QBs like Brady, Manning will eat us alive otherwise.

[Shawn`]

There's not a lot you can expect from this practice squad turn starter.

A person that also gets alot of crud on these forums is Chris Carr and I'll admit he made some bonehead moves during the season but last week he really stepped up. Led the team in tackles and a force fumble on Rashard Mendenhall. Alot of this is because he's a fresh guy and hopefully he really steps up in the playoffs.

[Whitty Hutton]

Boooo! to the removal of the user "Frank Walker" posts
Mods are seriously some tight azzes, laugh a little

[Ed_Reed20]

I may be wrong but I think Ivy replaced Walker after the penalty.

[putthefuinfun]

anytime i see frank walker on the field it makes me want to punch [i]<not nice> [/i]

[Moderator 2]

[quote name='Whitty Hutton' date='03 January 2010 - 09:09 PM' timestamp='1262570994' post='330301']
Boooo! to the removal of the user "Frank Walker" posts
Mods are seriously some tight azzes, laugh a little
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Not it is expressly forbidden in the Code of Conduct to sign up as a current Staff member or player--his posts were hilarious! We have to enforce the Code.

[baltimoreflock]

Weres chris mccalister when we need him

[Twoo]

[quote name='baltimoreflock' date='04 January 2010 - 02:14 PM' timestamp='1262632496' post='330875']
Weres chris mccalister when we need him
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*STRANGLE* *SPIT* *KICK*

[Mick0311]

[quote name='Whitty Hutton' date='03 January 2010 - 07:09 PM' timestamp='1262570994' post='330301']
Boooo! to the removal of the user "Frank Walker" posts
Mods are seriously some tight azzes, laugh a little
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I agree, it has been quite different around here the last few months.

[cookiedood]

I have been thinking long and hard about this blog, and I can't say that I disagree with anyone here, but I do have to ask the following question. Is Frank Walker and the entire Ravens secondary really this bad, or is it the defensive scheme they are asked to play? They made Charlie Frye ( third string QB ) look like the second coming of Joe Montana. I find it very curious that week in and week out, the Ravens receivers have so much difficulty getting open, but their opponents seem to always be about ten yards clear of the nearest defender. I have come to the conclusion that although Frank Walker is not a very good cover corner, I think he would probably fair a lot better under a different defensive coordinator. I make no bones about my distaste for Greg Mattison, I think he is our number one problem. He has neutralized Terrell Suggs. He was a monster as a blitzing linebacker, but as the fourth down lineman, he just is not a factor. You all can call it any way you see it, but this is in my opinion, the real problem with the Ravens, and I do not look for Harbs to make a change in coordinator any time soon

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='cookiedood' date='04 January 2010 - 06:49 PM' timestamp='1262648948' post='331222']
I have been thinking long and hard about this blog, and I can't say that I disagree with anyone here, but I do have to ask the following question. Is Frank Walker and the entire Ravens secondary really this bad, or is it the defensive scheme they are asked to play? They made Charlie Frye ( third string QB ) look like the second coming of Joe Montana. I find it very curious that week in and week out, the Ravens receivers have so much difficulty getting open, but their opponents seem to always be about ten yards clear of the nearest defender. I have come to the conclusion that although Frank Walker is not a very good cover corner, I think he would probably fair a lot better under a different defensive coordinator. I make no bones about my distaste for Greg Mattison, I think he is our number one problem. He has neutralized Terrell Suggs. He was a monster as a blitzing linebacker, but as the fourth down lineman, he just is not a factor. You all can call it any way you see it, but this is in my opinion, the real problem with the Ravens, and I do not look for Harbs to make a change in coordinator any time soon
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Wow.

To answer your first question, Frank is a bad corner. However, in case you didn't know, the Ravens finished with the 8th ranked pass defense in the league which isn't bad at all.

Opposing receivers get open against the Ravens' corners because the corners either don't play with good technique or simply aren't good enough(in Walker's case, both). When Webb was starting, he covered receivers like a glove. Walker, Carr and Ivy can't do that because they simply don't have the skills. It has nothing to do with scheme.

You say Mattison is the team's main problem but considering the defense finished with year ranked 3rd overall, I don't think it was much a problem. In fact, Pro Football Weekly ranked him as the [url="http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/01/04/ranking-the-defensive-coordinators"]9th best DC in the league[/url]. That may not impress you but around the league, people seem to think he's pretty good.

As for Suggs, would blitzing from a LB spot have really have made a difference this year? He's looked terribly lazy at times.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='04 January 2010 - 07:06 PM' timestamp='1262650006' post='331243']
Wow.

To answer your first question, Frank is a bad corner. However, in case you didn't know, the Ravens finished with the 8th ranked pass defense in the league which isn't bad at all.

Opposing receivers get open against the Ravens' corners because the corners either don't play with good technique or simply aren't good enough(in Walker's case, both). When Webb was starting, he covered receivers like a glove. Walker, Carr and Ivy can't do that because they simply don't have the skills. It has nothing to do with scheme.

You say Mattison is the team's main problem but considering the defense finished with year ranked 3rd overall, I don't think it was much a problem. In fact, Pro Football Weekly ranked him as the [url="http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/01/04/ranking-the-defensive-coordinators"]9th best DC in the league[/url]. That may not impress you but around the league, people seem to think he's pretty good.

As for Suggs, would blitzing from a LB spot have really have made a difference this year? He's looked terribly lazy at times.
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I wanted Mattison's head during the begining of the year, but I really have to hand it to the guy. Rex Ryan's defense fell apart when he lost the uber-corners (22nd in points allowed in 2007). Matty has had to deal with guys like Frank Walker and Chris Carr [i]all year long[/i] and he's produced amazing results in just one year.

Our defense doesn't do anything particularly well. They aren't the interception machines that they were last year; they aren't sack specialists like they were in the days of AD; they aren't escape artists on third down, but they manage to get the job done.

However, I hope that this progress does not convince Harbaugh to keep his Walker for a third year. If that happens, I might have to revolt.

[Sherb]

Is Walker to Harbaugh as Boller to Billick GET RID OF HIM!!!

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='04 January 2010 - 07:53 PM' timestamp='1262652807' post='331304']
I wanted Mattison's head during the begining of the year, but I really have to hand it to the guy. Rex Ryan's defense fell apart when he lost the uber-corners (22nd in points allowed in 2007). Matty has had to deal with guys like Frank Walker and Chris Carr [i]all year long[/i] and he's produced amazing results in just one year.

Our defense doesn't do anything particularly well. They aren't the interception machines that they were last year; they aren't sack specialists like they were in the days of AD; they aren't escape artists on third down, but they manage to get the job done.

However, I hope that this progress does not convince Harbaugh to keep his Walker for a third year. If that happens, I might have to revolt.
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Leave Mattison alone. Does no one even remember the injury reports from week to week to week? Our defense was decimated with injuries. Add to that we were without Rolle from the start and no C-Mac. New untested starters at CB. We began the season with a pass defense ranked #26 and finished the year with that pass defense ranked #8. The adjustments that had to be made obviously were made. The man can only work with what he has and for a lot of the year, that was Walker and Carr. Walker is a poor CB, period. Carr is just too small. Yet, look what he did with that CB combo. I think Mattison is fine. Let's get him the personnel he needs at the CB position for next season. Walker's contract is up in March. If they re-sign him, then...there is a real issue there.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Sherb' date='05 January 2010 - 12:23 AM' timestamp='1262668996' post='331506']
Is Walker to Harbaugh as Boller to Billick GET RID OF HIM!!!
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I seriously doubt that Walker will stay on for as long as Boller did. Apparantly head coaches have some unbreakable attachment to quarterbacks they draft. Frank Walker is just a back-up corner back that Harbs remembers from his NFC East days.

Even if the worst happens and Walker stays, his presence isn't nearly as damaging as that of a sub-par quarterback, but you're right: he does need to go.
[quote name='ravensdfan' date='05 January 2010 - 06:39 AM' timestamp='1262691559' post='331631']
[b]Leave Mattison alone.[/b] Does no one even remember the injury reports from week to week to week? Our defense was decimated with injuries. Add to that we were without Rolle from the start and no C-Mac. New untested starters at CB. We began the season with a pass defense ranked #26 and finished the year with that pass defense ranked #8. The adjustments that had to be made obviously were made. The man can only work with what he has and for a lot of the year, that was Walker and Carr. Walker is a poor CB, period. Carr is just too small. Yet, look what he did with that CB combo. I think Mattison is fine. Let's get him the personnel he needs at the CB position for next season. Walker's contract is up in March. If they re-sign him, then...there is a real issue there.
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Hey, I'm on your side, lol.

I have to disagree with you about Carr, though. He's not just small; he's a terrible player.

[JEEPercreepermd]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='04 January 2010 - 07:53 PM' timestamp='1262652807' post='331304']
I wanted Mattison's head during the begining of the year, but I really have to hand it to the guy. Rex Ryan's defense fell apart when he lost the uber-corners (22nd in points allowed in 2007). Matty has had to deal with guys like Frank Walker and Chris Carr [i]all year long[/i] and he's produced amazing results in just one year.

Our defense doesn't do anything particularly well. They aren't the interception machines that they were last year; they aren't sack specialists like they were in the days of AD; they aren't escape artists on third down, but they manage to get the job done.

However, I hope that this progress does not convince Harbaugh to keep his Walker for a third year. If that happens, I might have to revolt.
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Kudos, I couldn't have said it better myself! Great post.

Mattison has done a superb job this season despite the constant injuries that the defense has suffered. Suggs,Reed, several LB's have been in and out, Ngata, then losing two of your top 3 CB's for the year. To actually have the defense IMPROVE through that is outstanding. I, like you also was starting to question him earlier in the year but I was very wrong. The Offense not being able to sustain drives and keep the D rested hasn't help their cause much either.

[Perfekt]

im not sold on mattison but i will admit the defense has become better as the season has progressed. walker isnt as bad as people make him out to be. he needs to learn how to look for the ball but hes is more physcial and has better coverage skills then most of the cbs we have right now. if walker didnt demand a PI every game he is in i think we wouldnt be having this discussion lol.