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Thats exactly why we need to go QB. He was good in college but this is the pro's. I say we need to start him these last two games to see what he can do. Thats the only way we will know for sure.

lol...it doesn't matter who is throwing the ball, our wide receivers cant get open as fast as our o-line crumbles. Having a tank or immobile QB only makes the situation worse! Smith has clearly shown he's a better pick over Boller, so yea, the last two games will prove it. I still stand behind the fact that a FRESH rookie is not nearly as good as a player with 1 YEAR of experience, no matter what the difference in skills is. Unless you want to leave it to chance that the drafted QB turns out to be a freak, equivalent to AP as a RB, i'd suggest the Corner needs a SERIOUS update.

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lol...it doesn't matter who is throwing the ball, our wide receivers cant get open as fast as our o-line crumbles. Having a tank or immobile QB only makes the situation worse! Smith has clearly shown he's a better pick over Boller, so yea, the last two games will prove it. I still stand behind the fact that a FRESH rookie is not nearly as good as a player with 1 YEAR of experience, no matter what the difference in skills is. Unless you want to leave it to chance that the drafted QB turns out to be a freak, equivalent to AP as a RB, i'd suggest the Corner needs a SERIOUS update.

i couldnt agree more

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I say second round we go O-Line. usually you can grab a solid guy in the second round, and there always seems to be a lineman that slips down pretty far. Flynn is getting older, and Ogden might retire. I dont know how good Gaither is going to be, but we definitly need an O lineman.

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I'd go with a defensive player in this draft because a lot of our starters are getting old on that side of the ball. Cason or Jenkins would be good picks at the CB position. Maybe even Dan Connor or James Lauranitis at the LB position since one of the two CBs I mentioned might make it to the early 2nd round. All the mock drafts I've seen only show one CB going in the first round. So, if it still looks like there will be a good CB in the 2nd, I'd probably go with Lauranitis or Dan Connor. Whoever looks better at the combine.

I'd hold off a year before drafting a QB and here's why. Troy Smith is showing a some real potential and I want to see what he can do next year. If Troy is a bust, maybe Boller will finally get his act together and play consistently. Anyway, the QBs in this draft don't really stand out to me. Brohm, Ryan, Brennan, and Woodson are all talented. Don't get me wrong but I don't see any of them becoming the next peyton manning. There will be equal talent at that position in the 2009 draft and if Smith busts and Boller doesn't finally step up...we'll probably have a pretty high pick again in 2009. Who knows, we could get Tim Tebow...lol

EDIT: I didn't mention Dorsey because I doubt he'll make it past the first or second pick.

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i think whoever may be the best opportunity/chance to come up with the big plays and win the game in the end, would be at whoever Ozzie and staff decide it will be....there's bound to be some Great players for us to choose from and our pick in the draft...talent is found anywhere and everywhere.

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With McNair, Boller, and Troy Smith on the roster,and all on contract thruogh next year it would be Foolish to draft a QB at all. All three of these QB's I would take over alot of other starters in the league. Why not get some Oline help in the first or second round to protect our future quarterback whoever he might be. How are any of them gonna step Up if there always running for there lives. IF we can't protect them they are either gonna turn the ball over or get hurt. Rookie Offensive lineman also usaully do pretty well right out of college. And with Veterans like Ogden there to help progress it makes perfect sense.

Another option would be a deep threat reciever. We have a good veteran in Mason to help progress. I used to think that Clayton

could be our deep guy but not so sure anymore. Draft a speedy guy, move the consistent hands of Mason to the Slot where he will shine and throw Clayton and the new guy outside to open up some underneath stuff to Heap and Mason.

Obviously need a decent Play caller for any of it to work. Just a thought

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Another option would be a deep threat reciever. We have a good veteran in Mason to help progress. I used to think that Clayton

could be our deep guy but not so sure anymore. Draft a speedy guy, move the consistent hands of Mason to the Slot where he will shine and throw Clayton and the new guy outside to open up some underneath stuff to Heap and Mason.

We drafted a speedy guy in Yamon Figures and Billick finally put him in to play WR this year in the Dolphin game and caught a deep pass. If Boller threw it a little farther Figures would have walked into the end zone. Thats what we need more of.

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We drafted a speedy guy in Yamon Figures and Billick finally put him in to play WR this year in the Dolphin game and caught a deep pass. If Boller threw it a little farther Figures would have walked into the end zone. Thats what we need more of.

Good Point. Oline all the way

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Good Point. Oline all the way

Like I said before we need to draft defense first, thats why we lost to Miami. Cleo Lemon threw for over 200 yards in the second half with both our starting CB's out. We need depth at that position, we need a lock down corner to be drafted with the first pick in the draft.

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Defense.

1. CB - Man we cant protect the pass worth $#!^

2. DE - we need some help here as well.

3. MLB - Think the time of Ray might be closeing in. (might want to start dev a Rep for him so he can learn from the best)

O-line Maybe? J.O? Rep? who knows.

QB should be fine.

Starter - Troy

Backup - Kyle (only cause he signed ext)

Retire - McNair

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we dont need help at defensive end. Ngata and Trevor Price do a very good job, and Dwan Edwards is doing very well in his place. O-line is where we need help. If the OT for michigan is still there (i forget his name) i say we grab him. If he's not, take Jenkins and go O-line in the second.

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we dont need an o-lineman we have jared gaither to fill in for JO i think this is his last year.....JO has gotten BIG compared to when he came into the league which is causing him to be slow on top of that he's getting old. Jenkins in the first and i say we sign marcus trufant or one of those free agent cbs in the offseason...we'll be solid in the secondary and we can go offense on our second round pick

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I dont really know what type of player gaither is going to be. He didnt show me alot in his starts this season, not to mention hes been injured most of the time anwyays. Hes not going to be reliable down the stretch. He got picked in the 5th round of the supplemental draft for a reason.

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I'm all for selecting CB Antoine Cason. Chris McAlister is getting older now and Samari Rolle IS already old. :D

We need a talented, young corner. Pittman looks like a bust, Derrick Martin and Ronnie Prude are career backups and after that there's nothing left.

I may have a biased opinion here, but i am a senior at Arizona, and i am telling you, Antoine Cason is the best thing i have seen in college football (besides reggie bush). He is exactly what the ravens need. He is pretty much a clone of Mcallister but may have more upside. Most importantly he is a smart and humble football player. WE BETTER PRAY WE DRAFT HIM.

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Who do you think the Ravens should pick up in the draft? I saw one mock draft that had them picking a DT. I really don't see this happening. I think they should get the WR from LSU, Early Doucet or Boston College's QB Matt Ryan. Any thoughts?

COLT BRENNAN!!!

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We do have a QB issue again, and unfortunately we are not giving enough playing time to Troy Smith to see where we stand for the future. We could save a lot of salary cap money for other positions, given that we have both Smith and Boller signed for next year.

I hate to say it, but I think Steve McNair is beyond his years of being a real impact player, with no long ball threat. I think that he should consider hanging up his cleats and retiring, both for his good and for the good of this team. I want to say that I say this with regret because he has meant alot to the history of the NFL, and football in general,

but in the end, when the game was on the line for the Ravens and our defense held Indy to only 5 field goals we never got the much needed td's that could have carried us deeper into the playoffs and to the Super Bowl last year. He may make a meningful impact as a QB's coach but I think his playing days are over.

Some people have mentioned Donovan McNabb, who is supposedly available for next year, but how do we know his best days aren't over as well. Philly is struggling this year under his leadership.

Which brings us back to the draft question...Do we draft high to get a quality QB??? If we knew more about Troy Smith maybe we wouldn't!!! If we'd give him the chance, Troy might be the next Romo, become our starter, and get a renegotiated contract. And Kyle Boller is a more than capable backup who knows our system, and has improved by leaps and bounds since his rookie year.

Wha we do at QB has a lot to do with who Troy Smith is, or will be, and we will never know until we give him playing time. Rookie or no, the only way we will ever no the extent of his pro football skills is to give im playing time.

And with Kyle still suffering from a concussion from Sunday's game, I think we have to start Troy Smith.

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I dont know if anyone has mentioned this yet but if we end up with a top 5 pick do we really pick a cb? Seems like a high pick for a cb.. perhaps we could trade down for a later pick and still get the corner we want... or trade a little furthur down for 2 picks so we can end up getting 2 decent corners since it seems like we might have two fill 2 holes... just an idea

I'm all for seeing what Troy Smith has to offer but unfortunately we will not get a chance to really see this till next season...

If we end up with a top 5 pick and dont trade down i feel we draft a qb even though I dont want us too... I just feel like we have no choice I mean we need a franchise qb and Troy just hasnt gotten enough playing time to prove he's the man... and well Boller...forget about it!

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I think we need a new CB. McAlister and Rolle are up their in age and I think its time we draft a cornerback for the future. A DE to replace Pryce wouldn't hurt either. But I agree with most of you, if theirs a good QB available...take em.

Nicely put! I have faith in Decosta and Ozzie. They know talent and they will get us the best star available! But yeah, we are in DIRE need of a good CB. I know a lot of you want more offense, but if we had a better O line and better plays and an offensive coordinator in the booth calling the plays not a coach on the sidelines we WOULD be better on offense. Our 2ndary got humiliated against Cleo Lemon! I mean come on! Hell draft 2 CBs if their are some prodigies (like later on with a compensatory pick). We also need a DE at least to give us more depth. A 1st round QB like Brennan or Ryan would be an awesome pick up. I mean even if you already had McGahee, but you could also draft Adrian Peterson wouldn't you have done it? You don't want anyone else to have him and you could always trade them for some kind of steal. But it might be overkill cuz Boller has finally progressed and Troy could be a great QB as well (Boller, Smith and Ryan or Brennan we'd be set for life if they turn out to be studs). I didn't see many great WRs, we can hold off til next year. Mason proved he still has it, Clayton is the most underated WR in the league (so underrated we hardly throw to him), DW, DVD, and now we're putting in Figurs (good call! How can you cover someone who runs 14 yrds a second?). I would like more depth at RB (that can do KR and PR because our main guy always gets injured). We need to get back to our roots as a crucial running team. We also need to pick up some great free-agent veteran offensive linemen that's where our offense has struggles. You can say Boller holds on to the ball too long or makes bad throws under pressure, but if we had a great line that could give him all the time in the world then those problems wouldn't exist. We need a free agent CB cuz our backups are too young and have limited experience. Who is Gaston?? Thanks for graduating from our practice squad there buddy, now send him right back. haah!

1st round #1 draft pick for the Raven.....If it was possible.....A New Coach!

I wanted Rich Rodrigez (WVU almost goes to the Rose Bowl and you bail when White and Slaton are going into their Senior year?? dope!)

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Nicely put! I have faith in Decosta and Ozzie. They know talent and they will get us the best star available! But yeah, we are in DIRE need of a good CB. I know a lot of you want more offense, but if we had a better O line and better plays and an offensive coordinator in the booth calling the plays not a coach on the sidelines we WOULD be better on offense. Our 2ndary got humiliated against Cleo Lemon! I mean come on! Hell draft 2 CBs if their are some prodigies (like later on with a compensatory pick). We also need a DE at least to give us more depth. A 1st round QB like Brennan or Ryan would be an awesome pick up. I mean even if you already had McGahee, but you could also draft Adrian Peterson wouldn't you have done it? You don't want anyone else to have him and you could always trade them for some kind of steal. But it might be overkill cuz Boller has finally progressed and Troy could be a great QB as well (Boller, Smith and Ryan or Brennan we'd be set for life if they turn out to be studs). I didn't see many great WRs, we can hold off til next year. Mason proved he still has it, Clayton is the most underated WR in the league (so underrated we hardly throw to him), DW, DVD, and now we're putting in Figurs (good call! How can you cover someone who runs 14 yrds a second?). I would like more depth at RB (that can do KR and PR because our main guy always gets injured). We need to get back to our roots as a crucial running team. We also need to pick up some great free-agent veteran offensive linemen that's where our offense has struggles. You can say Boller holds on to the ball too long or makes bad throws under pressure, but if we had a great line that could give him all the time in the world then those problems wouldn't exist. We need a free agent CB cuz our backups are too young and have limited experience. Who is Gaston?? Thanks for graduating from our practice squad there buddy, now send him right back. haah!

1st round #1 draft pick for the Raven.....If it was possible.....A New Coach!

I wanted Rich Rodrigez (WVU almost goes to the Rose Bowl and you bail when White and Slaton are going into their Senior year?? dope!)

Hey, as of right now, I would go with anyone for head coach other than Billick.

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COLT BRENNAN!!!

WE NEED A LEFT TACKLE. That is the only position where we have a glaring need. Kyle will be OK and Troy is a project due to his height but QB is, if I may agree with other bloggers, the riskiest position to draft in the first round followed by wide receiver. Our defense will be good again. I saw some good play from Antwan Barnes and Edgar Jones against Miami. Biggest BANG for the buck; Offensive tackle.

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i think that with the added practice and experience the young Players experience and go through, will ultimately Help them out on the Line for us in the near and Far future...which results in better and better protection for the QB and better blocking to open up holes for us to run through.

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Who do you think the Ravens should pick up in the draft? I saw one mock draft that had them picking a DT. I really don't see this happening. I think they should get the WR from LSU, Early Doucet or Boston College's QB Matt Ryan. Any thoughts?

i would like to see the raven get another corner Malcom Jenkins from ohio st. looks good and i still think are oline needs some work .

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yea...Jenkins is a canadiate for us at that position and we need the type of players that can keep up with the recievers and continue to make plays every time they go out, or at LEAST help his team out in some way.

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With McNair, Boller, and Troy Smith on the roster,and all on contract thruogh next year it would be Foolish to draft a QB at all. All three of these QB's I would take over alot of other starters in the league. Why not get some Oline help in the first or second round to protect our future quarterback whoever he might be. How are any of them gonna step Up if there always running for there lives. IF we can't protect them they are either gonna turn the ball over or get hurt. Rookie Offensive lineman also usaully do pretty well right out of college. And with Veterans like Ogden there to help progress it makes perfect sense.

Another option would be a deep threat reciever. We have a good veteran in Mason to help progress. I used to think that Clayton

could be our deep guy but not so sure anymore. Draft a speedy guy, move the consistent hands of Mason to the Slot where he will shine and throw Clayton and the new guy outside to open up some underneath stuff to Heap and Mason.

Obviously need a decent Play caller for any of it to work. Just a thought

Ditto on most that you said.

I would agree about OL and WR. We need another JO (could we get JO to come back 1 more year???), and we could use our own version of TO or Randy Moss. Yeah, Mason might be better in the Slot, and a healthy Heap and Wilcox shores up TE. But I wonder about McNair. I think he has to get healthy and get into a serious workout routine ala Ray Lewis to get back the step he has lost if he is coming back next year. With the money these guys make and the responsibility they carry as athletes, they should not think of it any other way.

Our other weaknesses are at CB and DE. We have a glut of LB's, and DB's (but none of them matches up to the likes of McAllister or Rolle at CB)

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i think that with we have that JO type of player in Gaither now...he just needs more practice and experience to further himself along the way....Plus i think (as i've said before) the young guys/rookies from this season will become vital parts of this O-Line in the near and far future....they will all play vital/key roles in opening holes for us to run through and keeping defenders out of the back field...i think a Major part this season's "ok" and not "great" or even "Good"performance's was the fact that they let too many defenders in the back field for a shot at our quarterback....but again...all have shown potential and what they can become for us with time....and i feel as time goes on, they will only continue to get better

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Hey, as of right now, I would go with anyone for head coach other than Billick.

I started a thread on this subject which is out there to read.

I think, ultimately management has deccided to suspend judgement her for another year, and we need to do so as well. Alot of things have gone wrong this year: NUMEROUS injuries to key starters, misfortunate bounces of footballs in goalposts, questionble calls by officials when the game was on the line (???), and missed field goals by a Hall of Fame kicker. We have lost a handful of games by mere inches here or there.

I think Billick's winning record overall, and the need to "finish what we started", deserves another chance. We are ALL disappointed with this season, but if we view the Ravens as a work in progress, I think we will be pleased with next year's outcome.

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