Rex Raves About Revis (DPoY Award)

[darklight1216]

The New York Jets head coach, Rex Ryan believes Darrelle Revis deserves to win defensive player of the year.

"New York Jets coach Rex Ryan spent 10 seasons as a defensive assistant for the Baltimore Ravens, and during those 10 seasons he had two players -- Ray Lewis and Ed Reed -- who won the defensive player of the year award.

But Ryan says that this year, Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis deserves to win defensive player of the year -- and he says Revis is having a greater impact than Lewis or Reed ever had.

'Of course, those guys deserve those awards, but I don't think those guys even had the impact that Darrelle Revis has had on this football team,' Ryan said. 'I think that's why, I'll get off my soapbox, he's earned that award. It's not right on my part to stand up here and not maybe try to sell that to the public. He's earned this.' "

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/18/high-praise-for-revis-from-ryan/

[McBoller]

what a ****. I dont get if he's trying to say they havent had the same impact this year, or ever... This year, I'll agree Revis probably has had the biggest impact of any cb in the AFC, but you cant say its better than everything ray and ed have done since they've been in the league. tahts a slap int he face.

[theFRANCHISE]

If Rex was talking about just [i]this season[/i], I might be nice and let the comment stand because there's a small bit of truth to it.

That said, Charles Woodson has had a much larger impact on the Packers defense than Revis has had on the Jets defense; the mere threat of Woodson on the field (as well as his actual production, I might add) is what enables other guys on that defense to shine as well. We saw firsthand the impact that Woodson had only a couple weeks ago.

As for Revis over Lewis & Reed...well, if Rex is comparing their impact career-wise, Rex must've clearly lost his mind. Even a Steelers fan would admit that Lewis & Reed blow away Revis in terms of the impact they've individually had on the Ravens compared to Revis and the Jets.

[LilyRaven]

Rex is a windbag who seriously needs to learn to shut up and play football. I am rapidly losing respect for the man. Can someone please explain how the Ravens were able to force him to keep a cork in it while he was here or was I just not paying attention?

[neepo13]

Its a shame that the only way he knows to give his players credit, is to try to make the accomplishments of other players seem less worthy. If I played for Rex, I'd be ticked that my playing well was not merit enough for the praise. But that it has to be compared to someone else.

On another note, why is that Rex just cant shut up about the Ravens? Does Eric Mangini constantly talk about the Jets and Patriots? Is Mike Tomlin still talking about the Vikings? Josh McDanials still talking about the Patriots? If I didnt know any better, I'd say Rex wishes he was still here.

One more thing, Rex Ryan is so ungrateful. If he didnt have Lewis and Reed, he would have never gotten a damn head coaching job.

[MsMarvel73]

[quote name='neepo13' date='18 December 2009 - 11:45 AM' timestamp='1261154732' post='314931']
Its a shame that the only way he knows to give his players credit, is to try to make the accomplishments of other players seem less worthy. If I played for Rex, I'd be ticked that my playing well was not merit enough for the praise. But that it has to be compared to someone else.

On another note, why is that Rex just cant shut up about the Ravens? Does Eric Mangini constantly talk about the Jets and Patriots? Is Mike Tomlin still talking about the Vikings? Josh McDanials still talking about the Patriots? If I didnt know any better, I'd say Rex wishes he was still here.

One more thing, Rex Ryan is so ungrateful. If he didnt have Lewis and Reed, he would have never gotten a damn head coaching job.
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Amen sister.

I believe Rex has probably now completely alienated himself from everyone in Baltimore who loved him while he was here. Heck he lost all my respect when he started spouting off about Paul Kruger earlier this season.

I have to agree...maybe deep down Rex wishes he hadn't left...too late. Don't let the door smack your ****** on the way out!

[H8R]

What if I said Darren Sharper dominated more so then Revis or Woodson?

[darklight1216]

[quote name='LilyRaven' date='18 December 2009 - 11:11 AM' timestamp='1261152661' post='314914']
Rex is a windbag who seriously needs to learn to shut up and play football. I am rapidly losing respect for the man. Can someone please explain how the Ravens were able to force him to keep a cork in it while he was here or was I just not paying attention?
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I was wondering that too. I guess that having more authority has shown his true colors. I'm still waiting for him to keep his word and "get off the soapbox."
[quote name='neepo13' date='18 December 2009 - 11:45 AM' timestamp='1261154732' post='314931']
Its a shame that the only way he knows to give his players credit, is to try to make the accomplishments of other players seem less worthy. If I played for Rex, I'd be ticked that my playing well was not merit enough for the praise. But that it has to be compared to someone else.

On another note, why is that Rex just cant shut up about the Ravens? Does Eric Mangini constantly talk about the Jets and Patriots? Is Mike Tomlin still talking about the Vikings? Josh McDanials still talking about the Patriots? If I didnt know any better, I'd say Rex wishes he was still here.

One more thing, Rex Ryan is so ungrateful. If he didnt have Lewis and Reed, he would have never gotten a damn head coaching job.
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I'd be frustrated if I played for him too. He calls Sanchez the team's "Franchise" in front of the other players. How must that make them feel?

Another example of a coach that has moved on would be our very own John Harbaugh. He talks about the Eagles so infrequently that you would think was apart of another team... oh wait.

Lol, there are alot of people who owe Ray Lewis a "thanks for my career" card.

It is interesting that our rookie can't wear the number 99, in Rex's world, because "He hasn't proven [anything]." Yet, Revis is more valuable to his team than a SuperBowl MVP has ever been to his.

[MsMarvel73]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='18 December 2009 - 01:51 PM' timestamp='1261162268' post='315038']
I was wondering that too. I guess that having more authority has shown his true colors. I'm still waiting for him to keep his word and "get off the soapbox."

I'd be frustrated if I played for him too. He calls Sanchez the team's "Franchise" in front of the other players. How must that make them feel?

Another example of a coach that has moved on would be our very own John Harbaugh. He talks about the Eagles so infrequently that you would think was apart of another team... oh wait.

Lol, there are alot of people who owe Ray Lewis a "thanks for my career" card.

It is interesting that our rookie can't wear the number 99, in Rex's world, because "He hasn't proven [anything]." Yet, Revis is more valuable to his team than a SuperBowl MVP has ever been to his.
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*applause*

[JoeFlax]

I guess this is why he didn't get to be our head coach in the first place. Good Read Steve!

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='H8R' date='18 December 2009 - 01:41 PM' timestamp='1261161683' post='315013']
What if I said Darren Sharper dominated more so then Revis or Woodson?
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I'd buy it, though I'd still give the edge to Woodson because he's been playing at this level even before the new scheme was installed. Granted, the award only speaks to this season alone, but it speaks volumes of Woodson to have not only split time at two positions (safety and corner), but to play them both well [i]and[/i] during the installation of a new system.

Plus, teams gameplan around Woodson more than Sharper; people keep throwing in Sharper's direction and fail, while people throw away from Woodson, period. Additionally, Woodson's presence has allowed other guys on that Green Bay defense to shine like Clay Matthews.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='18 December 2009 - 10:07 AM' timestamp='1261152464' post='314912']
If Rex was talking about just [i]this season[/i], I might be nice and let the comment stand because there's a small bit of truth to it.

That said, Charles Woodson has had a much larger impact on the Packers defense than Revis has had on the Jets defense; the mere threat of Woodson on the field (as well as his actual production, I might add) is what enables other guys on that defense to shine as well. We saw firsthand the impact that Woodson had only a couple weeks ago.

As for Revis over Lewis & Reed...well, if Rex is comparing their impact career-wise, Rex must've clearly lost his mind. Even a Steelers fan would admit that Lewis & Reed blow away Revis in terms of the impact they've individually had on the Ravens compared to Revis and the Jets.
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Woodson is having a better year than Revis is no doubt, he blitzes causes fumbles, has 8 ints he does more than just cover like Revis does. And I dont think any Steelers fan would be hard pressed to admit Reed and Lewis have done far more than Revis has done in his 1.5 good seasons. Rex must have been talking this year only, that or hes clinically mentally ill.

[H8R]

Was Rex crying when he gave this account?

[FlaccoFlicker]

[quote name='H8R' date='18 December 2009 - 02:48 PM' timestamp='1261165713' post='315147']
Was Rex crying when he gave this account?
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nah most likely eating

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Bltravens' date='18 December 2009 - 02:17 PM' timestamp='1261163852' post='315113']
[b]Woodson is having a better year than Revis is no doubt, he blitzes causes fumbles, has 8 ints he does more than just cover like Revis does.[/b] And I dont think any Steelers fan would be hard pressed to admit Reed and Lewis have done far more than Revis has done in his 1.5 good seasons. Rex must have been talking this year only, that or hes clinically mentally ill.
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"Yes, but Charles can't go out on a corner like this guy can," Ryan said. "He can move inside and he can blitz. Revis would be a great blitzer, but I've got the best cover guy in America sitting over here, so he's going to be covering. He's not blitzing."

[LilyRaven]

[quote name='JoeFlax' date='18 December 2009 - 02:02 PM' timestamp='1261162923' post='315066']
I guess this is why he didn't get to be our head coach in the first place. Good Read Steve!
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Exactly. Bisciotti may not be the greatest football mind, but the man knows how to run a business. Let's face it, hot air don't sell if you ain't in balloons.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='18 December 2009 - 03:36 PM' timestamp='1261172164' post='315255']
"Yes, but Charles can't go out on a corner like this guy can," Ryan said. "He can move inside and he can blitz. Revis would be a great blitzer, but I've got the best cover guy in America sitting over here, so he's going to be covering. He's not blitzing."
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Well if thats the case then why didnt Asomugha win the DPOY award last year. He got targeted for what 18 passes all of last year? Bottom line is Revis shuts down a receiver yes, but Woodson has made more impact plays than Revis.

[Jamal]

I'll be honest, I was one of the people who thought we should have hired Rex over Harbs even after he took us to the AFC Championship. After seeing how hes doing in New York, I'm more than happy to say I couldn't have been more wrong. Sure hes a defensive mastermnd, but he hs no class. I'm not saying this because of what he just said, but after watching how he reacts to losses, he seems to be very disrespectful.

I won't even try to argue with his statement. Lewis has been the face of this teams for more than a decade, led one of the best defenses or maybe the best of all time, and won a SuperBowl MVP. What other defensive player can say that? Exactly.

With all that being said, I do think Darrelle Revis is the best CB in the NFL, and has the potential to be elite for many years to come.

[H8R]

When Revis does it for 10 more years, MAYBE then he can talk. Did Rex ever watch film on Champ Bailey or Deion? Those guys dominated just the same.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Jamal' date='18 December 2009 - 08:37 PM' timestamp='1261186634' post='315606']
I'll be honest, I was one of the people who thought we should have hired Rex over Harbs even after he took us to the AFC Championship. After seeing how hes doing in New York, I'm more than happy to say I couldn't have been more wrong. Sure hes a defensive mastermnd, but he hs no class. I'm not saying this because of what he just said, but after watching how he reacts to losses, he seems to be very disrespectful.
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Some fans like that disrespect and that edge, though. Problem is, that doesn't do anything to help with the referees. Despite the shaky officiating this season, haven't you noticed that we've gotten more calls in our favor this season than usual?

Refs claim to have no agenda, but it's common knowledge that they're more inclined to penalize a team with a bad reputation. Sure, there's been a lot of penalties this season, but a lot of those were pre-snap penalties that can be attributed more to focus than reputation.

[jfc13]

I'm thinking more and more that Rex is extremely bitter about not being given the head coaching job here. You can praise your own players without constantly knocking down the players on your former team.

I thought before that he just couldn't move on, but now it seems it's more than that. He's so bitter when talking about Ravens players [and notice that he's always comparing his team to the Ravens], there has to be something behind it. Rex needs to let go, not just of the past, but of the anger.

His belittlement of Ray is the best evidence of his bitterness. To, in any way, lessen the impact that Ray has had on this team over the years shows how bitter Rex is. He was here, saw it first-hand. It's unconscionable that he would say what he did.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Jamal' date='18 December 2009 - 08:37 PM' timestamp='1261186634' post='315606']
I'll be honest, I was one of the people who thought we should have hired Rex over Harbs even after he took us to the AFC Championship. After seeing how hes doing in New York, I'm more than happy to say I couldn't have been more wrong. Sure hes a defensive mastermnd, but he hs no class. [b]I'm not saying this because of what he just said, but after watching how he reacts to losses, he seems to be very disrespectful.[/b]

I won't even try to argue with his statement. Lewis has been the face of this teams for more than a decade, led one of the best defenses or maybe the best of all time, and won a SuperBowl MVP. What other defensive player can say that? Exactly.[/quote]
Of the post-game interviews that I've seen, he almost never gives the other team any credit. He bashes their game plan before the game and then when his team isn't good enough to beat the opponent he just says the Jets beat themselves.

I'm not going to bother debating the comment about Ray Lewis either. I'll bet he thinks that Mark Sanchez is better than a former Baltimore Colts quarterback too.

Come on, Rex. Even Rod Woodson gives some love to the team that gave him a ring.
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With all that being said, I do think Darrelle Revis is the best CB in the NFL, and has the potential to be elite for many years to come.
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See how simple that was? You didn't have to bash Nnamdi or say that Champ was never any good or anything like that.

[quote name='jfc13' date='19 December 2009 - 10:18 AM' timestamp='1261235931' post='315823']
I'm thinking more and more that Rex is extremely bitter about not being given the head coaching job here. You can praise your own players without constantly knocking down the players on your former team.

I thought before that he just couldn't move on, but now it seems it's more than that. He's so bitter when talking about Ravens players [and notice that he's always comparing his team to the Ravens], there has to be something behind it. Rex needs to let go, not just of the past, but of the anger.

His belittlement of Ray is the best evidence of his bitterness. To, in any way, lessen the impact that Ray has had on this team over the years shows how bitter Rex is. He was here, saw it first-hand. It's unconscionable that he would say what he did.
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Well said. What's going to happen next year when we actually play that team in real game? Can you imagine how much he's going to run his mouth before and after the game? >.<

[MagicianCamille]

You guys just love to cry foul...

The reporters fed him that question, all he was doing was supporting HIS PLAYER. That's what head coaches do.

[neepo13]

[quote name='MagicianCamille' date='19 December 2009 - 07:55 PM' timestamp='1261270553' post='316085']
You guys just love to cry foul...

The reporters fed him that question, all he was doing was supporting HIS PLAYER. That's what head coaches do.
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I am not buying that. Coaches avoid throwing other teams players under the bus everyday. All coaches except Rex Ryan, this isnt the first time he's been yapping his mouth about guys in other teams locker rooms. That its the media's fault crap isnt going to fly.

[Guest I-70WestRaven]

It's New York,if Rex does,t say things like that their press will eat him alive.That said I still think he's feelin' a little disrepectd by the Ravens but it was the teams choice to make.Reavis is an outstanding shut down corner,but dragging Ray and ED into it really was a little over the top,even from a guy whose Dad,as a "D" cordinator for Houston once punched "O" cordinator,Kevin Gilbride on the sidelines during a game.We'll deal with Rex next season,we got more important things to do than worry about him now!Oh yeah Rex you never cried in Baltimore!

[neepo13]

[quote name='I-70WestRaven' date='19 December 2009 - 08:31 PM' timestamp='1261272664' post='316103']
[b]It's New York,if Rex does,t say things like that their press will eat him alive.[/b]That said I still think he's feelin' a little disrepectd by the Ravens but it was the teams choice to make.Reavis is an outstanding shut down corner,but dragging Ray and ED into it really was a little over the top,even from a guy whose Dad,as a "D" cordinator for Houston once punched "O" cordinator,Kevin Gilbride on the sidelines during a game.We'll deal with Rex next season,we got more important things to do than worry about him now!Oh yeah Rex you never cried in Baltimore!
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Tom Coughlin doesnt talk smack like that and he's doing just fine. At the end of the day, if he wants the NY media on his side, he has to win. Its not about talking tough, especially if your losing. They might love it now but let the Jets have a really bad season and they will throw it all right back in his face.

[Guest I-70WestRaven]

[quote name='neepo13' date='19 December 2009 - 07:56 PM' timestamp='1261274169' post='316119']
Tom Coughlin doesnt talk smack like that and he's doing just fine. At the end of the day, if he wants the NY media on his side, he has to win. Its not about talking tough, especially if your losing. They might love it now but let the Jets have a really bad season and they will throw it all right back in his face.
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Yea that's a good point! Wonder who he'll blame then?A fine example of be careful what you wish for I guess.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='I-70WestRaven' date='19 December 2009 - 08:31 PM' timestamp='1261272664' post='316103']
It's New York,if Rex does,t say things like that their press will eat him alive.That said I still think he's feelin' a little disrepectd by the Ravens but it was the teams choice to make.Reavis is an outstanding shut down corner,but dragging Ray and ED into it really was a little over the top,even from a guy whose Dad,as a "D" cordinator for Houston once punched "O" cordinator,Kevin Gilbride on the sidelines during a game.[b]We'll deal with Rex next season,we got more important things to do than worry about him now!Oh yeah Rex you never cried in Baltimore![/b]
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He probably made some fans cry during a certain 2007 game.

[MagicianCamille]

Whatever, keep crying over spilled milk and every time Rex Ryan doesn't kiss the Ravens rear. Whatever makes you feel better I guess. I'm more concerned with winning these last 3 games and making the playoffs than I am whether or not Rex Ryan is being "respectful" of other teams. I don't care much for the media hype.

[Andrew Glass]

I remember mccalister going on this same type of streak, Although the the ravens were actually winning most of those games unlike the jets. After there next loss maybe rex can cry on revis's shoulder.