Flacco

[r.lewis52]

Do you think how much of a monster flacco can be next year. i think this year is a year when he can start to learn more about his offence and really start to get used to throwing to different recievers and to utilize his weapons. His first year was i think fast paced and now he can settle down after getting his first out the way. How comfortable do u think he can be next year?


P.S But lets finsh 09 first.

[Ravens_Fan13]

Well you can def. tell hes a second year guy right now becuase hes goin to the same guys over and over but he dosent have happy feet wich tells me he is comfortable so thats huge for his progression all and all i really cant tell if he is keeping the ball and waiting fo mason and then just checking down to rice or if clayton and wash just arent getting open but thats also a very essential part of him producing big numbers. but i give him alot of credit the schedule this year hasent been very kind hes a great qb now he will be an elite qb next year.

[TSizzle00]

[quote name='Ravens_Fan13' date='03 December 2009 - 09:41 PM' timestamp='1259894462' post='301623']
Well you can def. tell hes a second year guy right now becuase hes goin to the same guys over and over but he dosent have happy feet wich tells me he is comfortable so thats huge for his progression all and all i really cant tell if he is keeping the ball and waiting fo mason and then just checking down to rice or if clayton and wash just arent getting open but thats also a very essential part of him producing big numbers. but i give him alot of credit the schedule this year hasent been very kind hes a great qb now he will be an elite qb next year.
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I think he checks down quick but I also think Mark Clayton is not getting open as often as he should. I would rather a quick check down then Flacco eyeballing Mason after the snap.

[Ravens_Fan13]

[quote name='TSizzle00' date='03 December 2009 - 11:17 PM' timestamp='1259896645' post='301659']
I think he checks down quick but I also think Mark Clayton is not getting open as often as he should. I would rather a quick check down then Flacco eyeballing Mason after the snap.
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Yea i agree with ya on that but it cant just be mase and rice flacco has to learn to trust the other guys there may not be a mason for him to throw to next year then whats he do. i think he needs to build chemistry with our other guys but to be truthful i really dont know what our WR corpse is gonna look like next year we may have a whole new group im worried about it thats for sure

[funky141]

Get Flaco some decent WR and he can really go far. I'm sorry but Mason is getting up there in age and is more a possesion WR and Clayton is a number 3 at best. Ravens need a #1 WR and Flacco will have someone else to pass too than Rice.

[Reed_4_President]

[quote name='r.lewis52' date='03 December 2009 - 08:53 PM' timestamp='1259891635' post='301572']
Do you think how much of a monster flacco can be next year. i think this year is a year when he can start to learn more about his offence and really start to get used to throwing to different recievers and to utilize his weapons. His first year was i think fast paced and now he can settle down after getting his first out the way. How comfortable do u think he can be next year?


P.S But lets finsh 09 first.
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Flacco was BETTER last year then he is this year....

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Reed_4_President' date='04 December 2009 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1259954027' post='301911']
Flacco was BETTER last year then he is this year....
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While Flacco hasn't been very sharp in the past three weeks, I disagree. Flacco wasn't asked to do as much last year as he is this year. I'm sure there are certain reads, audibles and situations that he's still not fully comfortable with.

[gilgamesh]

[quote name='Reed_4_President' date='04 December 2009 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1259954027' post='301911']
Flacco was BETTER last year then he is this year....
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I'm sorry, for a second I thought you were talking about Joe Flacco, starting quarterback of the Baltimore Ravens. Obviously, this is not the Flacco you were referring to. Last year, Flacco took about five games into the regular season to even get situated because he wasn't getting starter snaps until week 3 of preseason. He was pretty bad in those games. He found a groove later on, but he wasn't throwing for 300 yards like he did earlier this year. We still ran the ball more than any other team in the league so that Flacco wouldn't get pressured too much early in his career. He is also throwing to somebody besides Mason, which is another improvement. Oh, he is also throwing in the middle of the field more, which is another thing he did not do last year. Given that this year, he has much better numbers, I would have to say you were talking about another Flacco. To do worse than last year, he would need to get less than 240 passing yards, 1 touchdown, and five INT in the last five games to be worse than last year, not to mention completion percentage. So you must be talking about another Flacco.

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='Reed_4_President' date='04 December 2009 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1259954027' post='301911']
Flacco was BETTER last year then he is this year....
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Save us the CAPS and show us the stats.

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='funky141' date='04 December 2009 - 02:09 PM' timestamp='1259953763' post='301907']
Get Flaco some decent WR and he can really go far. I'm sorry but Mason is getting up there in age and is more a possesion WR and Clayton is a number 3 at best. Ravens need a #1 WR and Flacco will have someone else to pass too than Rice.
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Hey that Wayne character isn't doing a whole lot for you. How about a trade. haha

[Ravens_Fan13]

[quote name='Reed_4_President' date='04 December 2009 - 03:13 PM' timestamp='1259954027' post='301911']
Flacco was BETTER last year then he is this year....
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do you watch the games or just get on here to ramble on?

[LilyRaven]

Riiight. Baltimore finally has a QB who can throw a TD pass nearly every game and he played better [i]last[/i] year?



*shrug* Anything for the post count.

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

Flacco is def playing better this season, than last season. As much as I love and respect D-Mase, Flacco needs a tall, strong young wide receiver who he can "grow-up" with. Hopefully, the Ravens will draft said WR. The sky is the limit for Flacco in the NFL.

[MsMarvel73]

[quote name='Reed_4_President' date='04 December 2009 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1259954027' post='301911']
Flacco was BETTER last year then he is this year....
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Stat-wise he's better THIS YEAR than he was last year. He just LOOKED better...more collected...last year.

[BohBalmerOsbohs]

Flacco is so much better this year, his passer rating has been in the 90's for most of the season. some people are just blind.

[Tank 92]

I think we have yet to see Joe's best this year. The dings to his wheels of late have limited his ability to spread the ball around and to throw deep. It seems the injuries have bothered him more than anyone has shared. Luckily, GB is ranked 24th in sacks, so his body should get a break this week.

That said, Joe Cool needs a front page WO for him to reach full potential. Ozzie will be working hard to make it happen!

[darklight1216]

[quote name='jt3751' date='04 December 2009 - 08:16 PM' timestamp='1259975794' post='302166']
[b]I think we have yet to see Joe's best this year.[/b] The dings to his wheels of late have limited his ability to spread the ball around and to throw deep. It seems the injuries have bothered him more than anyone has shared. Luckily, GB is ranked 24th in sacks, so his body should get a break this week.

That said, Joe Cool needs a front page WO for him to reach full potential. Ozzie will be working hard to make it happen!
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He helped the team get 30+ points per game. I think that was probably the best we'll see out of our second year signal caller.

[JEEPercreepermd]

[quote name='PARavensgirl' date='04 December 2009 - 07:26 PM' timestamp='1259972806' post='302148']
Stat-wise he's better THIS YEAR than he was last year. He just LOOKED better...more collected...last year.
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You can say he looked better last year, because we were used to seeing Kyle Boller trip over his own feet and fumble snaps week after week for 5 years. Not a very tough act to follow. So, yeah compared to Boller, Flacco looked like a 10 year veteran. But, now we are used to seeing Flacco and he really seems the same. Actually, he's now a little more intense but that's because he is growing as a leader. Also, it might seem like he looked better last year simply because he wasn't throwing nearly as many passes as he is this year.

[Ravensfan23]

Ok this first line will cause some trouble, but i think Flacco is a bit overrated right now, or maybe overrated isn't the right word for this sense but a bit overvalued by the fans and media. Simply put, i think too much is expected of Flacco too soon, by the fans and media. Flacco is a great talent, and before his name was even starting to fly around before the draft i though he had the potential to be one of the best QBs in the NFL.

However i think people underestimate the fact that Joe is still only a 2nd year QB. QBs usually take about 2 to 3 full seasons before they get really comfortable in the NFL. However when u help lead you team to the AFC Championship game as a rookie that time table gets accelerated. Joe is nowhere near the QB now that he will be in about 2 years. Joe is still really learning how to be an NFL QB.

IMO there are 3 stages to being a great NFL QB. You first much learn what it takes to be a good QB at the NFL level. Next you learn your offensive weapons around u and how to use them to the best of their abilities. Finally you learn how to become a better student of the game(like Peyton, Tom and Drew).

Flacco is still in the first stage imo. And because he is coming from Delaware, this stage will be the toughest for him. We all see the natural talents and potential of Joe, however we also see Joe being a bit inconsistent at times. I think the reason for that is the fact that he played at Delaware, where he was clearly the best player on the field in any game. If you ever got a chance to watch Joe play in college, you would see Joe just standing in the pocket(whenever his oline gave him time) and letting his guys run deep down field. Flacco would use his huge arm to connect with them. You would also see Joe getting away with throwing the ball off his back foot at times.

Well the problem is that when you play with that level of competition, you can do those things. In the NFL you often don't get away with the same things. Flacco at times won't step into his deep throws. Now because he has a huge arm, it doesn't show up in a negative way often. However in the first Cincy game, or the NE game, or even Minn game, if those deep TD passes are completed, the outcome could have been different.

Right now Joe is in the process of learning how to deliver the ball on certain routes. Case and point, go back to the Titans playoff game. Joe threw a perfect deep strike to Mason. It was really the only place he could put it. He throw the ball on a rope and the safety never had a chance to get there. Now look back to the NE game earlier this year. Pretty much the same route and situation. Joe put too much air under the ball and allowed the safety to get over and just get a fingertip on the ball. In 2 year or even next year, there is no way Merriwheater makes that play, because Joe will do a better job of looking off and delivering a better ball.

The next stage that Flacco will enter is getting comfortable with all of his offensive weapons, not just one or two. Right now we are seeing too many situations where Flacco and Clayton or Heap are not on the same page. This stage is so important because it almost always allows the WR to have a chance to make a play. You see guys like Rivers, Palmer, Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Warner, and Brady, who are so comfortable not only in their own abilities, but also in the players around them that they makes plays even when it doesn't seem to be one their. They know when and how to throw the back shoulder fades, and just how to throw the slants and skinny post to give their guy a chance to gain extra yards after the catch every single time or avoid that huge hit. Now Flacco is capable of doing this but he doesn't do it consistently, which is why we just see flashes as of now.

I think about 2 games where this came into play. The NE game when Flacco throw the halftime INT. There was a mixup with he and Clayton. Clayton ran a straight fade, and Flacco was throwing the ball back shoulder. Even if we get a FG in that situation the game is different. The other situation was last week in the Pit game. Flacco was throwing a Fade to Heap, Flacco throw the ball to the outside, but Heaps routes was taking him to the inside. That incomplete pass sent us into OT where anything could have happened, instead of being a game winning TD.

Now on the flip side, 2 situation where the communication and timing was perfect were, the Minn game and Steelers game. Flacco's fade to Clayton was prefect, instead of trying to drop the ball over his shoulder, Flacco threw it up high and allowed Clayton to go get it, the same as he did for Mason last week.

Finally Flacco will become better at knowing opposing defenders tendencies and how to effectively attack defenses. This is where being good at film study is important. At this point Flacco will be at the top of his game and we will all see some amazing things from Flacco, even more so then we do now. Flacco has the potential and talent to be mentioned among the top 3 QBs in the NFL after the Manning, Brady and Brees era is over. He is just not there yet, and won't be for a few more years.

Right now people expect a whole lot from Flacco and i think they forget that he is a 2nd year player. Like i heard so many people say that Flacco had a decent game last week against the Steelers. And i'm like "Decent" the guy passed for over 280 yards 1 TD and no INTs on one of the top defensives in the NFL. It's like what more do you want from the guy. He's not gonna be a All Pro QB right now and honestly we don't need him to me.

Give him the time to properly develop and he will be a star in this league. It's been a long time since we've had a good QB here in Baltimore, so when we all look at Flacco, we have no choice but to get excited, however the best is yet to come from Flacco, we just have to be sure not to put too much on his shoulders too soon. I think the Ravens are doing a great job of that right now.

[Tank 92]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' date='05 December 2009 - 10:50 AM' timestamp='1260028206' post='302344']
Ok this first line will cause some trouble, but i think Flacco is a bit overrated right now, or maybe overrated isn't the right word for this sense but a bit overvalued by the fans and media. Simply put, i think too much is expected of Flacco too soon, by the fans and media. Flacco is a great talent, and before his name was even starting to fly around before the draft i though he had the potential to be one of the best QBs in the NFL.

However i think people underestimate the fact that Joe is still only a 2nd year QB. QBs usually take about 2 to 3 full seasons before they get really comfortable in the NFL. However when u help lead you team to the AFC Championship game as a rookie that time table gets accelerated. Joe is nowhere near the QB now that he will be in about 2 years. Joe is still really learning how to be an NFL QB.

IMO there are 3 stages to being a great NFL QB. You first much learn what it takes to be a good QB at the NFL level. Next you learn your offensive weapons around u and how to use them to the best of their abilities. Finally you learn how to become a better student of the game(like Peyton, Tom and Drew).

Flacco is still in the first stage imo. And because he is coming from Delaware, this stage will be the toughest for him. We all see the natural talents and potential of Joe, however we also see Joe being a bit inconsistent at times. I think the reason for that is the fact that he played at Delaware, where he was clearly the best player on the field in any game. If you ever got a chance to watch Joe play in college, you would see Joe just standing in the pocket(whenever his oline gave him time) and letting his guys run deep down field. Flacco would use his huge arm to connect with them. You would also see Joe getting away with throwing the ball off his back foot at times.

Well the problem is that when you play with that level of competition, you can do those things. In the NFL you often don't get away with the same things. Flacco at times won't step into his deep throws. Now because he has a huge arm, it doesn't show up in a negative way often. However in the first Cincy game, or the NE game, or even Minn game, if those deep TD passes are completed, the outcome could have been different.

Right now Joe is in the process of learning how to deliver the ball on certain routes. Case and point, go back to the Titans playoff game. Joe threw a perfect deep strike to Mason. It was really the only place he could put it. He throw the ball on a rope and the safety never had a chance to get there. Now look back to the NE game earlier this year. Pretty much the same route and situation. Joe put too much air under the ball and allowed the safety to get over and just get a fingertip on the ball. In 2 year or even next year, there is no way Merriwheater makes that play, because Joe will do a better job of looking off and delivering a better ball.

The next stage that Flacco will enter is getting comfortable with all of his offensive weapons, not just one or two. Right now we are seeing too many situations where Flacco and Clayton or Heap are not on the same page. This stage is so important because it almost always allows the WR to have a chance to make a play. You see guys like Rivers, Palmer, Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Warner, and Brady, who are so comfortable not only in their own abilities, but also in the players around them that they makes plays even when it doesn't seem to be one their. They know when and how to throw the back shoulder fades, and just how to throw the slants and skinny post to give their guy a chance to gain extra yards after the catch every single time or avoid that huge hit. Now Flacco is capable of doing this but he doesn't do it consistently, which is why we just see flashes as of now.

I think about 2 games where this came into play. The NE game when Flacco throw the halftime INT. There was a mixup with he and Clayton. Clayton ran a straight fade, and Flacco was throwing the ball back shoulder. Even if we get a FG in that situation the game is different. The other situation was last week in the Pit game. Flacco was throwing a Fade to Heap, Flacco throw the ball to the outside, but Heaps routes was taking him to the inside. That incomplete pass sent us into OT where anything could have happened, instead of being a game winning TD.

Now on the flip side, 2 situation where the communication and timing was perfect were, the Minn game and Steelers game. Flacco's fade to Clayton was prefect, instead of trying to drop the ball over his shoulder, Flacco threw it up high and allowed Clayton to go get it, the same as he did for Mason last week.

Finally Flacco will become better at knowing opposing defenders tendencies and how to effectively attack defenses. This is where being good at film study is important. At this point Flacco will be at the top of his game and we will all see some amazing things from Flacco, even more so then we do now. Flacco has the potential and talent to be mentioned among the top 3 QBs in the NFL after the Manning, Brady and Brees era is over. He is just not there yet, and won't be for a few more years.

Right now people expect a whole lot from Flacco and i think they forget that he is a 2nd year player. Like i heard so many people say that Flacco had a decent game last week against the Steelers. And i'm like "Decent" the guy passed for over 280 yards 1 TD and no INTs on one of the top defensives in the NFL. It's like what more do you want from the guy. He's not gonna be a All Pro QB right now and honestly we don't need him to me.

Give him the time to properly develop and he will be a star in this league. It's been a long time since we've had a good QB here in Baltimore, so when we all look at Flacco, we have no choice but to get excited, however the best is yet to come from Flacco, we just have to be sure not to put too much on his shoulders too soon. I think the Ravens are doing a great job of that right now.
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Good stuff and I totally agree. The people that have been criticizing Joe don't seem to understand the points you make. We know Joe has all of the tools to be a great one, but as you point out, there is a development period that he will go through where he will be less than perfect.

[Tank 92]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='04 December 2009 - 09:53 PM' timestamp='1259981624' post='302203']
He helped the team get 30+ points per game. I think that was probably the best we'll see out of our second year signal caller.
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I have to disagree. Joe will improve in increments over the next couple of years. I think if he can get some quality protection giving him more time to survey the field, we will see another level of development this year. Hopefully in time to take us to the playoffs!

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='Reed_4_President' date='04 December 2009 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1259954027' post='301911']
Flacco was BETTER last year then he is this year....
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Uhm... if you're saying he looked like he played better... yeah its a little bit easier to pass when the other team pretty much knows you're going to run 75% of the time..

[quote name='PARavensgirl' date='04 December 2009 - 07:26 PM' timestamp='1259972806' post='302148']
Stat-wise he's better THIS YEAR than he was last year. He just LOOKED better...more collected...last year.
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exactly... due to other teams mainly playing the run not always sending a pass rush or something

[quote name='JEEPercreepermd' date='05 December 2009 - 07:34 AM' timestamp='1260016499' post='302302']
You can say he looked better last year, because we were used to seeing Kyle Boller trip over his own feet and fumble snaps week after week for 5 years. Not a very tough act to follow. So, yeah compared to Boller, Flacco looked like a 10 year veteran. But, now we are used to seeing Flacco and he really seems the same. Actually, he's now a little more intense but that's because he is growing as a leader. Also, it might seem like he looked better last year simply because he wasn't throwing nearly as many passes as he is this year.
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very good point

[edreedfromtheu]

[quote name='LilyRaven' date='04 December 2009 - 05:01 PM' timestamp='1259964115' post='302045']
Riiight. Baltimore finally has a QB who can throw a TD pass nearly every game and he played better [i]last[/i] year?



*shrug* Anything for the post count.
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WOW, You people who are "wacco" have something stuck in your eye I guess. How many touchdowns has the offense scored in the past 4 Weeks?(Because I'm so nice, I'll supply you with the STATS since you don't like CAPS: Flacco has thrown ONE touchdown in the last 4 games.) That includes games against the Browns and Colts defenses.

I completely agree with those who said Flacco was better last year. That's because nobody had very much film on him, and he was probably changing his tendencies as he went along learning how the NFL is. Oh, and the offensive play-calling was MUCH better. We actually ran the ball 20 or more times a game.

"Mason is a possession receiver and Clayton is a 3 at best." What does that even mean? Derrick Mason scores touchdowns in case you haven't noticed. Flacco has a hard time seeing the play develop, and seeing a receiver that will be open, and he gets the ball there late. And when a receiver clearly has him man beat... Flacco lofts up a lob pass instead of placing it on a more direct pass. He lets the defense catch up to it, even though they were initially beat.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='jt3751' date='05 December 2009 - 11:52 AM' timestamp='1260031962' post='302365']
I have to disagree. [b]Joe will improve in increments over the next couple of years.[/b] I think if he can get some quality protection giving him more time to survey the field, we will see another level of development this year. Hopefully in time to take us to the playoffs!
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Well I certainly hope so, but I was saying that we aren't going to see anything better from him [i]this year[/i].

[12th man]

I think flacco has progressed this yr but i also see things that he really needs to work on. See the field better getting more players involved in the passing game not just Ray rice and Mason, to many check downs, not getting rid of the ball fast enough. In the last 4-5 games he seems to be playing some what scared or unsure who to go to and as we see ray Rice is our main reciever. so yes he's good but he needs to improve to be an elite QB.

[Tank 92]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='05 December 2009 - 12:22 PM' timestamp='1260033767' post='302383']
Well I certainly hope so, but I was saying that we aren't going to see anything better from him [i]this year[/i].
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You ignored the second sentence........

[b]"I think if he can get some quality protection giving him more time to survey the field, we will see another level of development this year."[/b]

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='12th man' date='05 December 2009 - 12:49 PM' timestamp='1260035363' post='302394']
I think flacco has progressed this yr but i also see things that he really needs to work on. See the field better getting more players involved in the passing game not just Ray rice and Mason, to many check downs, not getting rid of the ball fast enough. In the last 4-5 games he seems to be playing some what scared or unsure who to go to and as we see ray Rice is our main reciever. [b]so yes he's good but he needs to improve to be an elite QB[/b].
[/quote]

I fully understand what you are saying, but come on, this is a 2nd year QB we are talking about here. That last statement is the exact point i was trying to get across in my previous post.

Everyone is saying what Flacco needs to do to become an elite QB in the NFL. How about we allow Flacco to be a consistently good NFL QB first. Then he'll progress into being a great QB and team leader and that is when he will step into elite status.

I'm not singling you out 12th man, but it's like everyone is just ready to crown Flacco the second coming. It's like during training camp, Flacco had a bad week with a lot of picks and all of the sudden we have another Boller on our hands, No he's just a young guy that will continue to make mistakes. And all of his mistakes won't lead to turnover, but some will lead to long 1st downs instead of much needed touchdowns. Some will lead to 3rd down incomplete passes instead of much needed 1st downs.

It kind of speaks to our poor QB history to say this, but Flacco is the best QB we've had in a long time, but with that being said he's not ready to step into that elite status yet. Flacco has shown the ability to win games, he has shown the ability to lead come from behind victories as well as game winning drives(other elements around him just haven't held up their end of it Clayton and Haushcka mainly). However Flacco has also struggled against the Browns defense, the Bengals 29th ranked pass defense, he's had his ups and downs. The same as any other young player in their second year playing in the NFL.

Just give him time to be what everybody wants him to be. When Flacco steps into that elite status of QBs in the NFL, everyone will know about it and their won't be a debate like with Eli or Big Ben. But he needs time

[darklight1216]

[quote name='jt3751' date='05 December 2009 - 01:47 PM' timestamp='1260038828' post='302403']
You ignored the second sentence........

[b]"I think if he can get some quality protection giving him more time to survey the field, we will see another level of development this year."[/b]
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I read that part; I just disagree with it.

[JEEPercreepermd]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' date='05 December 2009 - 02:02 PM' timestamp='1260039776' post='302412']
I fully understand what you are saying, but come on, this is a 2nd year QB we are talking about here. That last statement is the exact point i was trying to get across in my previous post.

Everyone is saying what Flacco needs to do to become an elite QB in the NFL. How about we allow Flacco to be a consistently good NFL QB first. Then he'll progress into being a great QB and team leader and that is when he will step into elite status.

I'm not singling you out 12th man, but it's like everyone is just ready to crown Flacco the second coming. It's like during training camp, Flacco had a bad week with a lot of picks and all of the sudden we have another Boller on our hands, No he's just a young guy that will continue to make mistakes. And all of his mistakes won't lead to turnover, but some will lead to long 1st downs instead of much needed touchdowns. Some will lead to 3rd down incomplete passes instead of much needed 1st downs.

It kind of speaks to our poor QB history to say this, but Flacco is the best QB we've had in a long time, but with that being said he's not ready to step into that elite status yet. Flacco has shown the ability to win games, he has shown the ability to lead come from behind victories as well as game winning drives(other elements around him just haven't held up their end of it Clayton and Haushcka mainly). However Flacco has also struggled against the Browns defense, the Bengals 29th ranked pass defense, he's had his ups and downs. The same as any other young player in their second year playing in the NFL.

Just give him time to be what everybody wants him to be. When Flacco steps into that elite status of QBs in the NFL, everyone will know about it and their won't be a debate like with Eli or Big Ben. But he needs time
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I don't think you could hit the nail on the head any better than that! kudos. Seriously people? It's the guy's 2nd year! And weather or not he,Harbs,Cam,Ozzie or anyone else admits it, he's been hurt for a few weeks now. Really it seems like he's been hurt since that Minnesota game. A foot or ankle injury can really wreak havoc on a QB's game because then you are dropping back slower, the inability to plant that foot like you normally would, and less mobility.

Give the guy some time! jeeze.

[MagicianCamille]

He's better than last year, but he hasn't been improving since the beginning of the season.

I hope he can improve his game before the season's over, and continue to improve throughout his career. I haven't been high on Flacco since the early part of the season though.