McNair arrested

[Ravenfire]

So McNair was a passenger in a vehicle last night in a car his brother-in-law was driving, but because it was McNair's car and he was a passenger he got arrested. Goddell better not do anything because he was only a passenger, he didnt do anything illegal.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...sports-football

[Mobtown]

So McNair was a passenger in a vehicle last night in a car his brother-in-law was driving, but because it was McNair's car and he was a passenger he got arrested. Goddell better not do anything because he was only a passenger, he didnt do anything illegal.

Yes, he did. In TN you can be arrested if you, as the owner of a vehicle, give your keys to someone who is drunk. It might be a stupid law, but you can't say he didn't break it.

[Guest Crowdog89]

Yes, he did. In TN you can be arrested if you, as the owner of a vehicle, give your keys to someone who is drunk. It might be a stupid law, but you can't say he didn't break it.

While it may be a dumb law....McNair broke it, and this is not the news I wanted to wake up to today

[Frank]

rediculous law, but he knew it ahead of time.

[BmoreBlitz]

I just hope he doesn't lose any time because of this.

[raysqueen]

oh he will! i have a bad feeling, and to be honest, i would say it if it were ray or anyone else, if you are gonna do the crime, you have to do the time! i don't want him to loose anytime, but in my opinion, if he does, then he only has himself to blame! these people need to start thinking before they do something dumb like this, and the fact that steve has a beautiful wife and four beautiful sons HEY STEVE, TRY THINKING ABOUT THEM BEFORE YOU GO OFF ACTING STUPID! but to be on the bright side, the last time mcnair was arrested for DUI, he won the league mvp!( with manning).

[FellsPointRaven]

oh he will! i have a bad feeling, and to be honest, i would say it if it were ray or anyone else, if you are gonna do the crime, you have to do the time! i don't want him to loose anytime, but in my opinion, if he does, then he only has himself to blame! these people need to start thinking before they do something dumb like this, and the fact that steve has a beautiful wife and four beautiful sons HEY STEVE, TRY THINKING ABOUT THEM BEFORE YOU GO OFF ACTING STUPID! but to be on the bright side, the last time mcnair was arrested for DUI, he won the league mvp!( with manning).

Or how about not judging until all the facts are known? When you first heard about Ray and the Atlanta charges, did you also castigate him straight away? It's worth noting McNair was not driving, and while inadvisable to get in a car with someone over the limit, we have no idea how much over the limit the driver was. He was pulled over for speeding, not dangerous driving.

It's also worth noting 2003 charges were dropped, making this technically a first offence. I'd therefore be surprised to see McNair miss any playing time for this.

I'm not making excuses for Steve, but I'd like to hear all sides of the story before reaching a judgement.

[raysqueen]

i here what your saying, and i am sorry if is sound judgemental i am don't want to judge, but i am hurt and upset because i really like steve alot and i have followed his whole career. this feels like the first time when this happened, how hurt i was then! i am just concerned for steve's well being! i hope that he doesn't loose time, nor do i want him to! we need steve because he is a critical part of what we are trying to do, and that is win the superbowl.

[berad]

this probably happens all the time

- McNair wasn't drinking

- McNair wasn't driving

- McNair didn't hurt the league rep by doing this

It will go away within 3 days

[raysqueen]

i hope your right, but i don't know! i have a bad feeling about this! this is the last thing that the ravens, need! ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS WIN A SUPERBOWL HERE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!

[Drkraven]

That is the dumbest law I've ever heard of! Yes he broke it, but please!!!

[Mahatma_Sloth]

Even if he dose miss a lil time he'll still pull through for the squad! We are talkin about a certified 4-star-general of football, you cant shake him up. Remember he came in late last preseason and what happend, 13-3 and a nailbiter with the superbowl champs(which ain't bad in my book). This dude is made of granit, and if your a fan all you can do is put your faith in him and watch the onslaught. As far as his character goes, the man got someone else to dirve who probably thought or just said he was not as drunk as he was. It happens all the time when the boys go out. When you get down to the gravy of it, it's just a vary stupid law!!!

[DRayRaven]

If McNair still played for the Titans, I doubt he would have been arrested.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

If McNair still played for the Titans, I doubt he would have been arrested.

Ain't that the truth!!!

[Khaine]

If McNair still played for the Titans, I doubt he would have been arrested.

I think that... is a definite possibility...

I hope this blow over real quick. I know I've had someone else drive me a few times...

[reddmmann]

rediculous law, but he knew it ahead of time.

It's not a dumb law but, what is dumb is drinking to the point that you don't feel comfortable driving so you give the keys to someone that is just as intoxicated.

If I am walking with a friend and he pulls out a gun and shoots someone, he should be charged with the crime(not me); but, if I give the gun to him to do the shooting, I'm just as culpable.

If you give one of your possessions to a friend with the knowledge that the friend will commit a crime with it (driving drunk is a crime), you are culpable.

[Tiz]

If McNair still played for the Titans, I doubt he would have been arrested.

False. He was arrested in Tennessee in 2003 for drunk driving and gun charges. Those charges were later dropped.

[DRayRaven]

Drunk driving and gun charges are a whole different ballgame than this.

If he were a Titan right now, he most likely would have signed a few autographs at the station and we would have never heard about it.

[Tiz]

Drunk driving and gun charges are a whole different ballgame than this.

If he were a Titan right now, he most likely would have signed a few autographs at the station and we would have never heard about it.

Ok I'll explain it again and I'll try to slow it down.

In 2003 as a Titan.He was pulled over for Drunk Driving and was arresting him. When one is arrested their car gets searched and impounded. During the search they found a gun so they added that charge.

Again this happend while he was a Titan and in Tennessee. Furthermore all charges were dropped because a Judge ruled that the officer did not have sufficient reason to pull him over. I.e. Mcnair wasn't swerving and he wasn't speed. Now take what you know about Tennesseee, if you have been there, and take what you know about Steve's appearance then you'll realize that being a Titan or Raven was irrelevant to them.

So Raven or not he has nothing to do with him breaking on a law on their books and being arrested/booked on it. Now like in 2003 he does his legal stuff and we'll see if this misdemeanor charge sticks.

[rollhard]

No one likes this kind of attention, however this charge is very defendable in court and his lawyers will take care of this no problem. Proving that #9 knew his brother in law was drunk or whatever is next to impossible. I doubt the DA will even seek charges, just my two cents.

[DRayRaven]

Ok I'll explain it again and I'll try to slow it down.

First of all, I don't need YOU to slow anything down for me.

If anything, maybe I should slow down for YOU.

1) This particular charge is a petty and oddball charge compared to a DUI and weapons possession.

2) Do you have the legal expertise to tell me how often this law is enforced? I doubt it.

3) If you don't think police officers and/or DAs never show favoritism to star quarterbacks and other celebrities, you're living in fantasy land.

4) Police officers are more likely to look the other way for less serious offenses (like this one)...as opposed to serious offenses (like DUI and weapons possession).

5) Some police officers are more likely to look the other way than others. It's luck of the draw. Just because one police officer charged him with something in 2003 does NOT mean a different police officer would do so in 2007.

6) IF a Tennessee police officer was so inclined to look the other way on a charge like this, who would be more likely to benefit: the star QB for the Titans, or the star QB for the Ravens?

GET IT???

BTW...I'm a mod and an experienced message board user, so I can handle a little smack. Next time you insinuate that someone is stupid by volunteering to "slow something down," your post is likely to be edited or deleted. Was that slow enough for you, or should I get out my crayons and draw you a picture?

[Mahatma_Sloth]

Ok I'll explain it again and I'll try to slow it down.

In 2003 as a Titan.He was pulled over for Drunk Driving and was arresting him. When one is arrested their car gets searched and impounded. During the search they found a gun so they added that charge.

Again this happend while he was a Titan and in Tennessee. Furthermore all charges were dropped because a Judge ruled that the officer did not have sufficient reason to pull him over. I.e. Mcnair wasn't swerving and he wasn't speed. Now take what you know about Tennesseee, if you have been there, and take what you know about Steve's appearance then you'll realize that being a Titan or Raven was irrelevant to them.

So Raven or not he has nothing to do with him breaking on a law on their books and being arrested/booked on it. Now like in 2003 he does his legal stuff and we'll see if this misdemeanor charge sticks.

charges were dropped so technicaly, on paper where all record of the law resides, its like it never happened. Now I know people that were pulled over without sufficient reason but it still made no differance. I think it had alot to do with himplaying for the titans but neither of us can say for sure if it did or did not matter only the judge knows that for sure!

[mcgahee2106]

If McNair wasnt drinking and it was McNairs car, why wasnt McNair driving??????????? Smells fishy, or McNair is an fool for allowing it to happen.

[Tiz]

No one likes this kind of attention, however this charge is very defendable in court and his lawyers will take care of this no problem. Proving that #9 knew his brother in law was drunk or whatever is next to impossible. I doubt the DA will even seek charges, just my two cents.

Obviously Mcnair wouldn't know what his b-i-l's BAC was but he should have be able to tell if his B-I-L was drinking.

The law itself is fine and I understand what Mcnair was doing and applaud him for being smart enough to give up the keys but as many people who drink know some times your decision making skills aren't at their finest when you have had a few drinks.

I have no problem believing it was an honest mistake by Mcnair but the Law is what it is and being a misdemenoar he'll probably plead it to a small fine and it'll be done with.

And to the mod who is still claiming that a cop would look the other way so somene can benefit is someone who really shouldn't be a mod as they are trying to act like Mcnair would only get pulled over in Tennesse because he's not a titan while trying to act like the fact he did get pulled over while being a titan didn't happen. You my friend are why honest officers get a bad name. You claim bias even when they is a law fully supporting what they did.

I trust you also have never heard of the Liquor Liabilty law as you act like given your keys to someone who has been drinking should be easily dismissed.

I shall refer you to the MADD website and the numerous DD Fatalities that have happend in over the last 30 days to understand how truely serious this should be taken.

Much like with Vick having issues with a house he owns, where his cousin lives having illegal activitiy go on inside it's walls Mcnair rightfully so has a legal issue with this one.

[Tiz]

charges were dropped so technicaly, on paper where all record of the law resides, its like it never happened. Now I know people that were pulled over without sufficient reason but it still made no differance. I think it had alot to do with himplaying for the titans but neither of us can say for sure if it did or did not matter only the judge knows that for sure!

And like I said with this one, It just happend and his Lawyers haven't talked to the judge or anyone to have these dismissed to. And if they get dismissed are you going to act like this never happened too?

[DRayRaven]

And to the mod who is still claiming that a cop would look the other way so somene can benefit is someone who really shouldn't be a mod as they are trying to act like Mcnair would only get pulled over in Tennesse because he's not a titan while trying to act like the fact he did get pulled over while being a titan didn't happen. You my friend are why honest officers get a bad name. You claim bias even when they is a law fully supporting what they did.

Maybe you should read my posts again, because I never acted like the previous arrest didn't happen.

On the contrary, you seem to believe celebrities never receive special treatment, and nearly everyone knows that reality is often the exact opposite. You further seem unable to recognize that for every policeman who will carry out his duty without favoritism, there's another who won't. Whether we're talking about a celebrity, a pretty girl, a friend, a relative, or a political official (and the examples of that are legion), we all know instances of police officers letting someone off easy when they would have charged anyone else. Moreover, the behavior of one officer in 2003 has little to no bearing on how a different officer in 2007 will most likely behave. Chances are, if this had been Vince Young, he would have received a warning and an admonition to be more careful. You're also the only one here who can't distinguish the difference between the seriousness of this charge and committing DUI yourself.

None of that is meant to bash the police. It's just recognizing reality.

...and being a moderator doesn't mean I'm not allowed to express an opinion.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

And like I said with this one, It just happend and his Lawyers haven't talked to the judge or anyone to have these dismissed to. And if they get dismissed are you going to act like this never happened too?

Do u keep blaming all people who have been aquited or dismissed of charges? Ray wouldn't like that.

the court system is designed to examin and scrutinize a situation from every angle and come to a conclusion that is fair and unbias whether that be a punishment or dismissal you know a gret deal of effort went into the decission makeing process to try and get it right. besides this is such a petty thing i dont see why it would be that big a deal to anyone.

ill leave you with a quote

"leave it be if you go free, i'll shake your hand like a man" -Phil Anselmo

[Marc2k6]

OK so now you can get a DUI or DWI for being a passenger of someone who is drunk!