Our Own Worst Enemy

[saved72907]

We handed them the game when Flacco threw that int. We should have ran the ball, and settled for a FG, going up 18-17. We just gave them the "miracle play" every indy fan was praying for. Good job Cam. I don't blame Flacco as much because the play should have NEVER been called. We will NEVER win against elite teams by shooting ourselves in the foot. It's the same old song and dance every time.

[MiselisM]

Agreed... I know we would have given Peyton time... But let him beat us, instead us beating ourselves.

[Aaron Vaught]

How can you blame Cam Cameron?

Cundiff missed a FG which would've won us the game.

Ngata was the one getting a useless penalty when the Colts were going to be forced to kick.

And the officials missed the offsides call.


I fail to see how any of that is Cam's fault?


The only problem I saw out there today was the offenses inability to get the ball across the goal line right from the 1 yard line. That was it. Everything else was perfect in my mind.

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

[quote name='Aaron Vaught' date='22 November 2009 - 04:31 PM' timestamp='1258925511' post='290507']
How can you blame Cam Cameron?

Cundiff missed a FG which would've won us the game.

Ngata was the one getting a useless penalty when the Colts were going to be forced to kick.

And the officials missed the offsides call.


I fail to see how any of that is Cam's fault?


The only problem I saw out there today was the offenses inability to get the ball across the goal line right from the 1 yard line. That was it. Everything else was perfect in my mind.
[/quote]
Could not agree with you more. Yet again, a missed FG cost us the game IMO

[drfeelgood]

That miss field goal cost us the game... we might have had one last shot but Ed reed pulled a rookie move and gave up that chance.

[Bosanac]

i agree, hand if off to ray and get the 3.

[saved72907]

[quote name='Aaron Vaught' date='22 November 2009 - 05:31 PM' timestamp='1258925511' post='290507']
How can you blame Cam Cameron?

Cundiff missed a FG which would've won us the game.

Ngata was the one getting a useless penalty when the Colts were going to be forced to kick.

And the officials missed the offsides call.


I fail to see how any of that is Cam's fault?


The only problem I saw out there today was the offenses inability to get the ball across the goal line right from the 1 yard line. That was it. Everything else was perfect in my mind.
[/quote]
Ummm.......... Cam called pass play????? You have to admit that was not smart. Yes I know the missed FG got us too, but that was earlier on. The point is we had yet another heavyweight up against the ropes, and we yet again knock ourselves out. I'm not real clear on which offsides call you are talking about. Do you mean the false start that wasn't called on the int play?

[ROCNRAVEN]

We are way "TOOOOOOOO" inconsistent this year....

[gilgamesh]

[quote name='Aaron Vaught' date='22 November 2009 - 04:31 PM' timestamp='1258925511' post='290507']
How can you blame Cam Cameron?

Cundiff missed a FG which would've won us the game.

Ngata was the one getting a useless penalty when the Colts were going to be forced to kick.

And the officials missed the offsides call.


I fail to see how any of that is Cam's fault?


The only problem I saw out there today was the offenses inability to get the ball across the goal line right from the 1 yard line. That was it. Everything else was perfect in my mind.
[/quote]

I don't think we should really blame anyone. We did score five times as much as last year. The loss hurts, but the Pittsburgh loss was great medicine. This really escalates next week's meeting. That will be very important and a loss at home to Pitt would not look good for our playoff hopes. It's so exciting, is it next week yet?

[neepo13]

[quote name='saved72907' date='22 November 2009 - 04:29 PM' timestamp='1258925376' post='290498']
We handed them the game when Flacco threw that int. We should have ran the ball, and settled for a FG, going up 18-17. We just gave them the "miracle play" every indy fan was praying for. Good job Cam. I don't blame Flacco as much because the play should have NEVER been called. We will NEVER win against elite teams by shooting ourselves in the foot. It's the same old song and dance every time.
[/quote]
And then what happens if Manning goes down the field and scores another TD? I'll tell you what, people are crying about settling for the field goal with so much time left. Your damned if you do and damned if you dont. Thats what happens when you dont win.

[saved72907]

[quote name='gilgamesh' date='22 November 2009 - 05:39 PM' timestamp='1258925993' post='290548']
I don't think we should really blame anyone. We did score five times as much as last year. The loss hurts, but the Pittsburgh loss was great medicine. This really escalates next week's meeting. That will be very important and a loss at home to Pitt would not look good for our playoff hopes. It's so exciting, is it next week yet?
[/quote]
The squeelers loss did help a little. I'm laughing and crying at the same time.

[saved72907]

[quote name='neepo13' date='22 November 2009 - 05:40 PM' timestamp='1258926003' post='290549']
And then what happens if Manning goes down the field and scores another TD? I'll tell you what, people are crying about settling for the field goal with so much time left. Your damned if you do and damned if you dont. Thats what happens when you dont win.
[/quote]
Even if we scored a touchdown on that drive, a Manning TD still would have gotten them the lead back. Point is, getting the what should be a "sure" lead, is better than gambling and getting burned as we just did. Looking back, the Colts are VERY fortunate to not have lost these last 2 games.

[smashmouth]

Why is everyone so damn sour over this loss. Pointing fingers and junk. This was a freaking great game. I wish we would have won, but the ball has not fallen in the right spot for us this year.

THE REFS actually called a fair game today, no one seems to notice. I was on the edge of my seat all game, i spilled my beer not once but twice. our defense stepped up big today, TURNOVERS is what made our defense great over the decade. They showed that again today. Washington seems to be out now, Webb will see alot of time now.

Baltimore has a good chance of still making the playoffs, and if we get there anything can happen. Lets get pumped, we got the Steelers coming into town next week!

[jschultz]

Guys! No FG kicker is automatic on every kick! He already made two kicks from 46 and 44 and went 5/6 for the day, which is pretty damn good. Hauscka would have been 3/6 if he was lucky.

This loss absolutely falls on the rest of the offense for not being able to post a single TD in situations where almost any other O out there would have converted!

1st & goal from the 1 and we can't score a TD?! That's freaking pathetic!!!

Also going to the well too many times with check downs to Rice. Sooner or later a DB or LB is going to jump one of those throws, which is exactly what happened with that costly turnover deep in Colts territory.

[ROCNRAVEN]

[quote name='saved72907' date='22 November 2009 - 04:41 PM' timestamp='1258926093' post='290557']
The squeelers loss did help a little. I'm laughing and crying at the same time.
[/quote]
I feel ya. I'am tooo, but you know we can't depend on no one but our selfs.....

[Messey]

I agree with the comment on no TD's we had every chance to beat this team as they
were not playing their best. We need to get some real passing action going and
get those needed TD's. That was really sad when your on the goal line and can't
even get it in in three tries.

[saved72907]

[quote name='jschultz' date='22 November 2009 - 05:46 PM' timestamp='1258926367' post='290575']
Guys! No FG kicker is automatic on every kick! He already made two kicks from 46 and 44 and went 5/6 for the day, which is pretty damn good. Hauscka would have been 3/6 if he was lucky.

This loss absolutely falls on the rest of the offense for not being able to post a single TD in situations where almost any other O out there would have converted!

1st & goal from the 1 and we can't score a TD?! That's freaking pathetic!!!

Also going to the well too many times with check downs to Rice. Sooner or later a DB or LB is going to jump one of those throws, which is exactly what happened with that costly turnover deep in Colts territory.
[/quote]
That Goal line offense was pathetic. I like smashmouth football, but you must change it up every now and then. I don't see why they didn't try a TE corner fade or something.

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='kash96ravenstotalfan' date='22 November 2009 - 04:34 PM' timestamp='1258925649' post='290515']
Could not agree with you more. Yet again, a missed FG cost us the game IMO
[/quote]

Well your opinion is a crock. Because if we were up by 2, the Colts would have played a differnt way. We needed a TD all day. I blame the Cam for not bringing in the heaviest package and punching the ball in there with Ngata lead blocking for McClain. Thats the most costly thing I can think of

[ravens_4life]

everyone has a point on the loss. ed reed did pull a rookie move i thought we was down to be honest. that int that flacco threw sealed it. the missed field goal hurt, but at least we made field goals. i think we need another playmaker on offense that is just my opinion. we are good but way to inconsistent. if we scored on the 1 yard line we would have probably won. the stats were almost equal. we played them good just not good enough. we have to fix our issues in order to be an elite team. our defense played good i think our offense needs work, and what i mean by work is another playmaker. if we had a dominent reciever who could really stretch the field and be a threat we would that much better. mason is good but he is old. that just my two cents. mr.ozzie should have gone after boldin in the offseason. we would probably be unbeaten or like 8-1 or something like that.

[dethdude420]

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Take out Bears, and insert Indi

[MagicianCamille]

The Colts are who we thought they were, that's why we took the damn field.

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

[quote name='Aaron Vaught' date='22 November 2009 - 04:31 PM' timestamp='1258925511' post='290507']
How can you blame Cam Cameron?

Cundiff missed a FG which would've won us the game.

Ngata was the one getting a useless penalty when the Colts were going to be forced to kick.

And the officials missed the offsides call.


I fail to see how any of that is Cam's fault?


The only problem I saw out there today was the offenses inability to get the ball across the goal line right from the 1 yard line. That was it. Everything else was perfect in my mind.
[/quote]

You know Im glad I am not the only one who feels this way. I honestly believe we played one hell of a game. Held the O SO MIGHTY Colts to 17 points, 3 turnovers, great defensive play and looked really good moving the ball. Except for the red zone conversions and one missed field goal, we took care of business against the Colts today. I am proud of the way they played. Yeah the loss sucks but no where near as much if we had been blown out. We are still in the playoff hunt. The Steelers have also proven to be a team that can lose. I think there is plenty of momentum to carry us into next weeks matchup with Pitt. Nothing to hold our heads down for today.

[Slick]

Bottom line: this loss hurts, but not as much as it would if we lost to the Steelers today. Fortunately, We can still ruin Pittsburgh's year by sweeping them and beating the lions, raiders, and bears (which I think is entirely possible). This year isn't over, and we've already beaten SD and Denver so we've got tiebreakers in our favor and a good chance to scratch and claw our way to a wildcard birth.

[jschultz]

[quote name='Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan' date='22 November 2009 - 06:31 PM' timestamp='1258929111' post='290693']
You know Im glad I am not the only one who feels this way. I honestly believe we played one hell of a game. Held the O SO MIGHTY Colts to 17 points, 3 turnovers, great defensive play and looked really good moving the ball. Except for the red zone conversions and one missed field goal, we took care of business against the Colts today. I am proud of the way they played. Yeah the loss sucks but no where near as much if we had been blown out. We are still in the playoff hunt. The Steelers have also proven to be a team that can lose. I think there is plenty of momentum to carry us into next weeks matchup with Pitt. Nothing to hold our heads down for today.
[/quote]
Yeah, the defense did their job today. The offense didn't get it done today. Can't always settle for FGs.

[jusraven]

[quote name='Aaron Vaught' date='22 November 2009 - 04:31 PM' timestamp='1258925511' post='290507']
How can you blame Cam Cameron?

Cundiff missed a FG which would've won us the game.

Ngata was the one getting a useless penalty when the Colts were going to be forced to kick.

And the officials missed the offsides call.


I fail to see how any of that is Cam's fault?


The only problem I saw out there today was the offenses inability to get the ball across the goal line right from the 1 yard line. That was it. Everything else was perfect in my mind.
[/quote]

No red zone touch downs out of how many visits is a good reason to question the play calling. Of course, I also didn’t agree with the field goal from the one yard line either. If the Ravens doesn’t get into the end zone the colts pay dearly to dig their way out.

[FerrariFan87]

Horrible play call and another bad read by Joe.... when you're in FG range to take the lead, you can't test a congested middle of the field; throw the ball away, Joe!!

[FlaccoFlicker]

I saw this and all I could think of was that Lit song "My own worst enemy" cuz every now and then we beat the living crap out of ourselves.

[Flacco-the-Unitas]

What loss isn't tough?

Nothing was expected of us last season and we had a great season.

Everything is exepcted of us this season and we're not one of the premiere teams with perfect records.

For this game we can point fingers at missed FG, inability to run a TD for 1 yard, the last minute INT, and the call that made many of those things possible. While we're at it, let's point fingers at the coaches and play callers.

Believe me, this loss is really frustrating as a fan. And I know it's frustrating to everyone here. But, what did everyone THINK this game was going to be? We had a mediocre win against the Browns and a loss the week before. Our secondary is trash and our WR consists of one man: Reed. Everyone thought it would be close to a shut out. Instead, the Ravens shut down Manning for the most part. Not many teams have found that possible. Flacco was solid for most of the day except for having practically no one to throw to except for heap, Rice, and the occasional Mason. Most of Mason's catches were made in deep coverage anyways.

The Ravens are an awesome team with a gigantic achilles heel: the secondary and the WR. We can try rushing more to make this better. We can dump off to TE more to make this better. But in the end, this team still has this exploitable weakness and probably will for the rest of the season. What do we do to force an entire section of the team to start performing adequately mid season? Pray. It's torture to finally have a QB and have no one for him to throw to deep.

I think we can beat the steelers with the run and with TE passes. Seemed to work for the Chiefs. But even after that, this team with a huge gaping wound will square off against other teams that have none. Hopefully, after this performance, someone next season will do soemthing about our WR and our secondary. Unless our new QB is going to make a career out of throwing to TE and RB.

[superd]

Flacco did make some mistakes. And the receivers are getting open. Anyone who goes to the games can say Flacco is missing a lot of passes to open guys and just dumping it to Rice. And we can't continue to do that. And I don't blame The kicker. Even though breaking Stovers record of 5 while he is in our stadium giving the other team the lead changing kick Would have been cool. If you blame a kicker and not our offense when we were on the 1 and couldn't get in then your retarded. Secondary did what they had to do and if the defense plays like this our season can be saved. We know our offense has it. Joe cool has to regroup and finish strong.

[Jamal]

Superd, I think you're a couple of months behind. We are not 3-0 anymore, and ever since that Pats game, its been a titanic downfall.