Hauschka Released

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' date='17 November 2009 - 03:22 PM' timestamp='1258489323' post='284739']
YES!!! now the question is.. do we resign Graham gano?
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I would love that move but hes under contract with the UFL so how would that work??

[ravensfolife]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' date='17 November 2009 - 04:01 PM' timestamp='1258491670' post='284782']
I would love that move but hes under contract with the UFL so how would that work??
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There season bout over and it wouldnt b hard to get out of contract i wouldnt think anyway

[Purple Punishment]

They will probably ask for Suggs and a 1st rounder hahaha

[theFRANCHISE]

The good thing is, replacing a kicker isn't as hard as replacing a starter at any other position; kickers are a dime-a-dozen, and the only premium you place on the position is consistency in the clutch. We don't necessarily need a kicker to make clutch kicks just yet -- we just need one that's consistent, period. The clutch kicks will come over time.

In fact, it's more difficult to replace a long-snapper than a kicker, because the long-snapper needs to have chemistry with the holder to ensure that the kicker has the best chance of making his kick. There've been far too many botched kicks this season because of long-snappers making mistakes.

[sportscrab]

[quote name='Shawn`' date='17 November 2009 - 03:58 PM' timestamp='1258491525' post='284777']
I kind of feel bad for him.

He might be back after a couple of years, working on that accuracy.
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Unfortunately, the kid has GREAT accuracy. His problem is mental. That's a lot tougher to deal with. I wish him all the best to get another gig in the NFL. He's got the skillz, he just needs to work out his jitters/choke/panic/(insert yours here) syndrome.

I'll miss him. He was an easy target for parody. Now I'm gonna have to start thinking again.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' date='17 November 2009 - 04:01 PM' timestamp='1258491670' post='284782']
I would love that move but hes under contract with the UFL so how would that work??
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The Ravens could, in theory, buy out his contract. I'm not sure if that can be done, but it's always a thought. It'd be more money than needed just for a kicker, though, because they'd have to pay for his services to his UFL team [i]and[/i] negotiate an NFL contract with him. Kickers are dirt-cheap as-is, so why pay more than necessary just for a guy whose contract will be up in a couple short weeks anyway? Easier just to get someone in the interim and bring in Gano later if there's still interest.

[ZIBBY28]

good riddance...

i feel bad for the guy, but he'll get another shot down the road

[Orange&Blue19]

Hey would you guys mind teaching us how to release kickers/punters. Berger has got to go

[Wacko4Zacko]

Mike Nugent stats

Field Goals Made: 77
Field Goal Attempts: 98

Not bad if you ask me......

[McBoller]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='17 November 2009 - 04:11 PM' timestamp='1258492299' post='284799']
The Ravens could, in theory, buy out his contract. I'm not sure if that can be done, but it's always a thought. It'd be more money than needed just for a kicker, though, because they'd have to pay for his services to his UFL team [i]and[/i] negotiate an NFL contract with him. Kickers are dirt-cheap as-is, [b]so why pay more than necessary just for a guy whose contract will be up in a couple short weeks anyway?[/b] Easier just to get someone in the interim and bring in Gano later if there's still interest.
[/quote]Because the pay for a kicker is $25K per season, so theyd have to pay about $10K. WIth the NFL minimum, theyd be paying him more than that for one quarter of work.

[FerrariFan87]

Nugent has been horrible this season, missing every kick between 40-49 yards... I do NOT want him, unless he's had a revelation and can now kick in that range.

[baltiMORE RAVENS]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' date='17 November 2009 - 04:14 PM' timestamp='1258492486' post='284805']
Mike Nugent stats

Field Goals Made: 77
Field Goal Attempts: 98

Not bad if you ask me......
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Not good if you ask me.....

but maybe he can live up to his potential with another chance. He was a 2nd round pick which is insane for a kicker.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='Orange&Blue19' date='17 November 2009 - 04:14 PM' timestamp='1258492448' post='284802']
Hey would you guys mind teaching us how to release kickers/punters. Berger has got to go
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yea i couldnt believe you guys picked him up......but needless to say i feel your pain

[PSU RAVEN]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' date='17 November 2009 - 04:01 PM' timestamp='1258491670' post='284782']
I would love that move but hes under contract with the UFL so how would that work??
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IMO , I cannot see Harbaugh being willing to bring Gano back. That would be confirming that he made a mistake between Gano and Haushka.

More likely that they bring someone else in.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' date='17 November 2009 - 04:18 PM' timestamp='1258492697' post='284811']
Nugent has been horrible this season, missing every kick between 40-49 yards... I do NOT want him, unless he's had a revelation and can now kick in that range.
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I wanted Mike Nugent when he first entered the draft, but I've softened my stance on him since then.

But at any rate, any kicker would be an improvement over Steve Hauschka at this point. I just want someone whose mortal enemy isn't the left hashmark.

[baltiMORE RAVENS]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' date='17 November 2009 - 04:18 PM' timestamp='1258492697' post='284811']
Nugent has been horrible this season, missing every kick between 40-49 yards... I do NOT want him, unless he's had a revelation and can now kick in that range.
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2-6 this year, must have been those terrible weather conditions in tampa...

cundiff is 6-6 this year but his longest is 31 yards. I don't know who we're gonna chose, but are they better than houshka? Time will tell...

[darklight1216]

Aren't you guys glad that they got rid of this guy quickly? He could have cost us a game or something.

[baltiMORE RAVENS]

[quote name='PSU RAVEN' date='17 November 2009 - 04:20 PM' timestamp='1258492832' post='284815']
IMO , I cannot see Harbaugh being willing to bring Gano back. That would be confirming that he made a mistake between Gano and Haushka.

More likely that they bring someone else in.
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Well they have admitted to making a mistake by RELEASING HAUSHKA

[sportscrab]

Hey, Ochocinco kicks field goals. Two birds, one stone.

[PSU RAVEN]

[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' date='17 November 2009 - 04:25 PM' timestamp='1258493151' post='284824']
Well they have admitted to making a mistake by RELEASING HAUSHKA
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True , but I think they would counter that although Hauschka did not work out, they still picked the better kicker between him and Gano.

Gano did miss a few chip shots in pre season

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='17 November 2009 - 04:22 PM' timestamp='1258492938' post='284820']
I wanted Mike Nugent when he first entered the draft, but I've softened my stance on him since then.

But at any rate, any kicker would be an improvement over Steve Hauschka at this point. I just want someone whose mortal enemy isn't the left hashmark.
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Careful what you wish for.......

[neepo13]

[quote name='sportscrab' date='17 November 2009 - 04:10 PM' timestamp='1258492247' post='284798']
Unfortunately, the kid has GREAT accuracy. His problem is mental. That's a lot tougher to deal with. I wish him all the best to get another gig in the NFL. He's got the skillz, he just needs to work out his jitters/choke/panic/(insert yours here) syndrome.

I'll miss him. He was an easy target for parody. Now I'm gonna have to start thinking again.
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Dont worry. CC is still here.
[quote name='McBoller' date='17 November 2009 - 04:16 PM' timestamp='1258492591' post='284807']
Because the pay for a kicker is $25K per season, so theyd have to pay about $10K. WIth the NFL minimum, theyd be paying him more than that for one quarter of work.
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25k to kick in the UFL? Practice squad players make around 70k a year, might be more than that now. Which begs the question who the hell on our practice squad had more promise at their position than this guy does at kicker. We wasted a PS spot to keep Mattison's kid around.

[Bosanac]

party time!!!!

[darklight1216]

[quote name='neepo13' date='17 November 2009 - 04:31 PM' timestamp='1258493481' post='284832']
Dont worry. CC is still here.

25k to kick in the UFL? Practice squad players make around 70k a year, might be more than that now. [b]Which begs the question who the hell on our practice squad had more promise at their position than this guy does at kicker.[/b] We wasted a PS spot to keep Mattison's kid around.
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You could make an arguement for KJ Gerard, but I think you answered your own question: Bryan Mattison.

[MagicianCamille]

It is about time.

What's wrong with you guys though? We finally get rid of this guy and now you want the guy he actually did better than in the preseason to come in? Where is the logic, people? Gano isn't the answer.

[neepo13]

[quote name='PSU RAVEN' date='17 November 2009 - 04:30 PM' timestamp='1258493444' post='284830']
True , but I think they would counter that although Hauschka did not work out, they still picked the better kicker between him and Gano.

Gano did miss a few chip shots in pre season
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Gano is a real rookie though. Hauschka should have blown him away in that battle but he didnt.

[ZIBBY28]

[quote name='sportscrab' date='17 November 2009 - 04:30 PM' timestamp='1258493400' post='284829']
Hey, Ochocinco kicks field goals. Two birds, one stone.



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best post i've read all year.

[Wacko4Zacko]

What about Koch? lets try him out as a kicker.

[BuckWilds]

Based on the lack of clutch kicking Steve knew it was time and I'm sure he and Harbs talked about it - and Harbs told him to keep working out for his next gig. Steve's got to find his zen, so to speak.

That all said, this thread is starting to stink of Philly forums - let the guy leave in peace. It's not like he didn't put in the effort or was some kind of T.O. type. He just couldn't cut it in the clutch this time around. The celebration mentality... just amazing that people find glory is someone's misfortune - at least someone who didn't put any effort into hurting you.

[jfc13]

[quote name='Zhamtao' date='17 November 2009 - 04:41 PM' timestamp='1258494065' post='284845']
Based on the lack of clutch kicking Steve knew it was time and I'm sure he and Harbs talked about it - and Harbs told him to keep working out for his next gig. Steve's got to find his zen, so to speak.

That all said, this thread is starting to stink of Philly forums - let the guy leave in peace. It's not like he didn't put in the effort or was some kind of T.O. type. He just couldn't cut it in the clutch this time around. The celebration mentality... just amazing that people find glory is someone's misfortune - at least someone who didn't put any effort into hurting you.


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I agree. It's not like he didn't try or didn't care, it just didn't work out. I hope he figures it out. Until then, I do understand the need for the Ravens to move on and try to find someone that can produce NOW.