2010 Baltimore Ravens

[B-more Ravor]

[quote name='YYZ66' date='12 November 2009 - 07:57 PM' timestamp='1258073865' post='280917']
Isn't Vincent Jackson a free agent after this season? He would be a great pick up. Although he will probably demand a huge contract.
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I doubt the Chargers will let him get away either way, but Jackson's FA status will depend on whether a new CBA is agreed upon before next March.

If there is no new CBA, Jackson (and Marshall, and Miles Austin, and Lance Moore, and Chris Henry, and Malcolm Floyd) will only be RFAs, so the Ravens can sign them to an offer sheet, but their present teams can match that contract offer, or the Ravens will owe draft picks (depending on the tender amount, likely a 1st and 3rd, a 1st or a 2nd).

If the do reach a new CBA, then all of those guys will be UFA and free to sign anywhere, at least, if they aren't Franchised.

[Runnin Raven]

One last change which might have to be made is in the coaching ranks. I'm a pretty patient guy and am not one to run off and say "fire the coach!" the minute something goes wrong. But I'm really not sold on Greg Mattison. At all.

[JoeFlax]

[quote name='Alexir' date='12 November 2009 - 02:34 AM' timestamp='1258011254' post='280541']
First of all, I love the Baltimore Ravens and truly like all the players on our team (minus Chris Carr). But I do believe the key to our success is to let some of these guys go and bring it some talent or give our 2nd stringers a shot. This is how I think both sides of the ball should look in 2010.

[b]Defense 3-4[/b]
[i]Build a team around Ngata[/i]
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[b]DT: Justin Bannan/[/b][b]Dwan Edwards[/b] (split time)
[b]NT: Haloti Ngata[/b]
[b]DE: Jarrett Johnson[/b]
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ROLB: Terrell Suggs
JACK: Dannell Ellerbe/Tavares Gooden (split time)
MIKE: Ray Lewis
[b]LOLB: Paul Kruger/Antwaan Barnes (split time)[/b]
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[b]LCB: Lardarius Webb[/b]
[b]SS: Haruki Nakamura/Draft[/b]
FS: Ed Reed
[b]RCB: Dominique Foxworth/Draft[/b]
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[b]Front 3:[/b] Haloti Ngata is a beast. Period. Lets put him up on NT and cut ties with the aging Kelly Gregg. Justin Bannan is getting up there in age but I think he and Edwards would fit in well as a DT. Jarrett Johnson is an amazing athlete. I love the guy. That's why I see him doing amazing things as a DE instead of an OLB.

[b]LBs: [/b]Only thing really changing here is that LOLB spot opposite of Suggs. We drafted Kruger and we have Barnes. I Think these guys can get the job done with pass rushing, not sure about Kruger on run stopping though. We could even through in Jameel McClain to make it a trio at the position.

[b]DBs: [/b]Fabian's contract is up after this season. Thanks for the 2008 season, Fabe. Webb showed a lot of promise vs the Bengals. He deserves to start for this team. I have him taking Foxs spot and moving Fox over to the otherside splitting time with a draft pick. Dawan, you were the man in 2006 and 2007. But you are a liability on pass coverage. I like Nakamura to fill the void at SS, unless we see someone amazing available in the draft.

[i]So by moving some guys around we only need to really address 2 positions. I feel our linebackers are very versatile and are our strength. Lets get them on the field as much as possible.[/i]
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[b]Offense[/b]
[i]Quarterback? Check. Targets? Ah Crap[/i]
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LT: Jared Gaither
LG: Ben Grubbs
[b]C:[/b] Matt Birk[b]/Draft[/b]
[b]RG: Marshall Yanda[/b]
RT: Michael Oher

TE: Todd Heap
[b]TE2: Draft/FA[/b]
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[b]WR1:[/b] [b]Draft/FA ([/b][i]Tall!)[/i]
[b]WR2: Kelley Washington[/b]
[b]WR3[/b]: [b]Draft/FA ([/b][i]Shifty)[/i]
WR4: Marcus Smith/Justin Harper

QB: Joe Flacco

[b]FB: Draft/FA[/b]
RB1: Ray Rice
RB2: LeRon McClain
[b]RB3: Draft/FA[/b]
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[b]OLine:[/b] Matt Birk is getting older and I'm not challenging his will but your body ages on you and doesnt react like it used too. That being said he still starts next year but we should focus on bringing in a replacement to anchor our amazing line. Only other thing I have changing is give Yanda his job back. Chester you are amazing and I personally would like you as the Center but dont think it will happen. You are talented though but Marshall is...WOW.

[b]TEs:[/b] Heeappppp has it! Yeah he still has it, a little banged up but there is definitely some rubber left on those tires. But its never too early to pick up a young TE through the draft. This years draft class is deep too!

[b]WRs:[/b] Our favorite topic! Mason, Clayton and Williams are all free agents next year which translates to: Mason retiring again, Williams goes bye bye, and Not sure about Mark. Anyways we need a number 1 receiver for Joe Cool. He Needs to be taller than 6 feet....also I like Kelley as a number 2. He is very consistent. WR3 I listed shifty. You know the type. The playmakers in the slot, Wes Welker, Desean Jackson, or Miles Austin. Mark Clayton comes to mind.

[b]QB: [/b]We need to start Troy Smith! Just making sure you are still paying attention. All joking aside, Troy will hit FA. John Beck is a good back up to Joe Cool. No changes here but like any year we will bring some QBs to camp and probably sign 1 to be the No. 3 guy.

[b]RBs:[/b] Not a big fan of LeRon McClain as a Fullback. I think we could get a better, bigger run blocker. However, I am a huge fan of LeRon McClain as running back. Willis will be no longer with the team and there is no use in wasting a high round draft pick on a RB when we have a pro bowler in line! RB3, I like Cedric Peerman but any RB will do behind the Bowling Ball and Wrecking Ball.

[i]Receivers are the weakness. We need to draft some guys next year. That doesn't necessarily mean first round either. All these additions might not be addressed during one draft or one free agency. They are merely to show what we need on the offensive side of the ball.[/i]
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[b]Special Teams[/b]
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P: Sam Kock
[b]K: FA/Draft[/b]
[b]K/PR: Leroy Vann[/b]
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[b]ST:[/b] Didn't want to do Special Teams but let's face it a kicker should be the least of our worries. We tried out 2 proven kickers yet we still have a college soccer player converted kicker on our roster. Peace Hauhscka. Leroy Vann is amazing. Just had to put his name out there in hope of you guys googling him. Plus we don't want Webb getting hurt now that he's a starter.

I am not going to do a coaching section but I will say the obvious. Cut ties with Mattison. That is all on that.

Well, Thanks for spending your time reading this. I can not wait to discuss this with you guys.

Later,

Alex

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[b]P.S. Positions and names in Bold are either new personnel or same players at different position.[/b]
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+1

suddenly Im so excited for next year

[Jamal]

I never thought of making LeRon McClain a permanent RB. Thats actually a great idea. Our RB duo would be amazing.

God, I hope that actually happens.

[SaVaGe]

Obviously based on history this will be a very good year.

[bce086]

[quote name='Alexir' date='12 November 2009 - 02:34 AM' timestamp='1258011254' post='280541']
Leroy Vann is amazing. Just had to put his name out there in hope of you guys googling him. Plus we don't want Webb getting hurt now that he's a starter.
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Haha, I'll admit I hadn't heard of him and google/youtubed some video's of him... Dude can RUN.

Here's the only video I could find on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1gbXycdTT0&feature=related

From NFL Draft Scout --

Name: LeRoy Vann
College: Florida A&M Number: 7
Height: 5-08 Weight: 188
Position: CB Pos2: KR
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2010
40 Time: 4.54 40 Low: 4.43 40 High: 4.65
Projected Round: Stock:
[b]Rated number 38 out of 224 CB's[/b] 395 / 2582 TOTAL

Hmmm... CB/KR,PR... sounds like what we need. But I haven't seen him in any games and don't know anything about him.

Took 6 kicks back for TDs last year, has 5 this year...

[Guest jlaw48]

[quote name='bce086' date='13 November 2009 - 06:48 PM' timestamp='1258156105' post='281390']
Haha, I'll admit I hadn't heard of him and google/youtubed some video's of him... Dude can RUN.

Here's the only video I could find on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1gbXycdTT0&feature=related

From NFL Draft Scout --

Name: LeRoy Vann
College: Florida A&M Number: 7
Height: 5-08 Weight: 188
Position: CB Pos2: KR
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2010
40 Time: 4.54 40 Low: 4.43 40 High: 4.65
Projected Round: Stock:
[b]Rated number 38 out of 224 CB's[/b] 395 / 2582 TOTAL

Hmmm... CB/KR,PR... sounds like what we need. But I haven't seen him in any games and don't know anything about him.

Took 6 kicks back for TDs last year, has 5 this year...
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He is basicallly a slower Ladarius Webb!! He brok records but he did it at FAMU!! His 40 times are terrible for a CD his size!! At the height he would have to be physical!! What is he gonna do with a Brandon Marshal, Wes Welker, Dallas Clark, Chris Henry, Ocho Cinco!! WE NEED ERIC BERRY or DEZ BRYANT!! We need to trade for a shutdown corner and not draft one!!

[Bltravens]

[quote name='jlaw48' date='13 November 2009 - 06:12 PM' timestamp='1258157573' post='281399']
He is basicallly a slower Ladarius Webb!! He brok records but he did it at FAMU!! His 40 times are terrible for a CD his size!! At the height he would have to be physical!! What is he gonna do with a Brandon Marshal, Wes Welker, Dallas Clark, Chris Henry, Ocho Cinco!! WE NEED ERIC BERRY or DEZ BRYANT!! We need to trade for a shutdown corner and not draft one!!
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Considering the only guys close to being shutdown corners now a days are Charles Woodson and Nnahmdi Asomugha and they're both right around 30, trading for them would be an abysmal move.

[RoflDogs]

I think Ben Grubbs has been very sub-par this season

[mhead66]

[quote name='B-more Ravor' date='12 November 2009 - 10:37 PM' timestamp='1258083451' post='281061']
I doubt the Chargers will let him get away either way, but Jackson's FA status will depend on whether a new CBA is agreed upon before next March.

If there is no new CBA, Jackson (and Marshall, and Miles Austin, and Lance Moore, and Chris Henry, and Malcolm Floyd) will only be RFAs, so the Ravens can sign them to an offer sheet, but their present teams can match that contract offer, or the Ravens will owe draft picks (depending on the tender amount, likely a 1st and 3rd, a 1st or a 2nd).

If the do reach a new CBA, then all of those guys will be UFA and free to sign anywhere, at least, if they aren't Franchised.
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There's no way that Jackson hits the market. Not a chance.

I think the Cowboys will resign Austin - he's a game changer, like DeSean Jackson. Henry is busted up, and has been busted alot...

Floyd has size, but he's never been all that productive, as a #1 - and he's 28. Moore is only 5'9, and he's not even starting for NO.

Marshall, on the other hand, could be available - cue, 1000 more threads on Marshall-love...

[Bltravens]

[quote name='RoflDogs' date='13 November 2009 - 07:29 PM' timestamp='1258162188' post='281411']
I think Ben Grubbs has been very sub-par this season
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Besides both Bengals games and the first half of the Vikings game the Oline has been giving Flacco plenty of time and good protection. Just Mason is constantly bracketed, or for some reason Leon Hall knows how to cover him, Clayton prob couldnt even get separation from me and my flag team ( jk...sorta lol), and Washington is rarely used on anything but 3rd downs. They've also kind of stopped targeting Heap after he had a re-emerging first 4 games.

[Marc2k6]

How many more years do you think Ray Lewis and Ed Reed will play football and who is in line to replace them? Next season we could have some major holes to fill at CB, Safety, DE and MLB. If we lose anyone at these position right here and right now, who is filling the spots?

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Marc2k6' date='13 November 2009 - 11:13 PM' timestamp='1258175594' post='281439']
How many more years do you think Ray Lewis and Ed Reed will play football and who is in line to replace them? Next season we could have some major holes to fill at CB, Safety, DE and MLB. If we lose anyone at these position right here and right now, who is filling the spots?
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Not a damn person. Ray ,Ed, and Suggs are both 34, 30 and 26 respectively and besides those 3 we dont have a single guy that is a play maker. Ngata is a great D lineman but he is not a play maker (ie FF, Ints, Sacks). That is truely worrisome and scary. We have good depth, but no stand outs.

[PurpleChaos]

Barring them really hitting the jackpot on a WR in free agency this team will be a third place team at best next year being that virtually the entire core of wideouts will be gone. Even drafting a guy or two short term will not help the cause being that is one of the toughest positions to draft for and it ususally takes a guy a few years to develop. Also because of cap space I don't see Heap here leaving a large hole in a already thin group. Again drafting to fill holes leading to more inexperience on the offensive side of the ball. Pretty much a run game once again. The D...too many damn questions and a crop of guys on the end of careers. Too difficult to call. Unless Cincy and Pitt take a major dive we will own third place. Can you say rebuilding mode?

[RavenFever]

[quote name='The Raven' date='12 November 2009 - 04:13 PM' timestamp='1258060409' post='280763']
I liked what you wrote, but JJ and Kruger are slightly undersized for a DE in a
3-4. I moved Ngata back to end, and moving Mckinney to nose. Mckinney gets a lot of penetration if you've noticed. The problem we have is we have too many talents and we cant get em all on the field. If JJ or Kruger bulk up to play end then move Ngata back to nose. I do like the idea of having Krugers motor at end, but JJ's experience at line in college makes me want him at end.


DE: Ngata
NT: Mckinney
DE: Edwards/Bannan

ROLB: Terrell Suggs/Barnes (split time)
JACK: Dannell Ellerbe/Tavares Gooden (split time)
MIKE: Ray Lewis
LOLB: JJ/Kruger (split time)


LCB: Lardarius Webb
SS: Haruki Nakamura/Draft
FS: Ed Reed
RCB: Dominique Foxworth/Draft
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Have to disagree on your thoughts on JJ and Kruger.... the best and greatest DE the Raven's have had.....#99 Michael McCrary 6'4" and 266lbs.... I say give them a shot @ DE!!

[shaikh015]

I think the offensive line is really more important then people give them credit for...I think that we need at least a guard and a center..Or a tackle and Center but we need at-least 2 of them.

[The Raven]

[quote name='RavenFever' date='14 November 2009 - 10:10 AM' timestamp='1258211409' post='281504']
Have to disagree on your thoughts on JJ and Kruger.... the best and greatest DE the Raven's have had.....#99 Michael McCrary 6'4" and 266lbs.... I say give them a shot @ DE!!
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McCrary played in a 4-3. 265 is a tad small for a 3-4 end. I want to see him on the field as much as you guys do, but he's just small for a 3-4 end. 3-4 ends need to take up space to keep the LBs free. Kruger doesn't take up enough space. But he is a perfect fit for a 4-3 end, but we all know how terrible that 4-3 is...

[CorvusCorax]

Good breakdown.

However, I think we'll be looking at having 6 WRs on the depth chart. As of this moment we have 5.

So who do you think we'll have left? This is how I'm seeing it for 2010

WR1 Ray Rice/FA/Draft - should Mason retire
WR2 Ray Rice/Clayton
WR3 Ray Rice/K. Washington
WR4 Ray Rice/Justin Harper
WR5 Ray Rice/Eron Riley/FA/Draft
WR6 Ray Rice/Draft/FA

Overall I like your breakdown. I do think we'll look at a WR (maybe even trade up for one) for #1 pick and a CB as a #2 draft pick.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='The Raven' date='14 November 2009 - 11:21 PM' timestamp='1258262486' post='281698']
McCrary played in a 4-3. 265 is a tad small for a 3-4 end. I want to see him on the field as much as you guys do, but he's just small for a 3-4 end. 3-4 ends need to take up space to keep the LBs free. Kruger doesn't take up enough space. But he is a perfect fit for a 4-3 end, but we all know how terrible that 4-3 is...
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To all our dismay we dont run the 3-4 like we should be doing so Kruger fits the bill as a 4-3 DE. And even if Kruger does pack the pounds of to play 3-4 DE, who the hell spends a 2nd round pick on a guy you "hope" to get to 285-290 to play 3-4 DE. When all 3-4 DEs do is take up space like you said to free blitzing LBs, theres very few Richard Seymours who can pass rush as a DE out of the 3-4 in this world. He's one of the few guys I would use a day 1 pick on for a 3-4 DE. The rest of the 3-4 schemed teams have DEs nobody would use a day 1 pick on. Even Tyson Jacksons play hasn't warrented his top 3 pick, 12 tackles, 0 sacks, 0 FFs.

[FabFox3124]

[quote name='BMOREHAWAII' date='12 November 2009 - 02:51 AM' timestamp='1258012285' post='280543']
I like the way you thought everything out. Id even try Kruger as DE for pure pass rush with his high motor, and keep JJ on the outside because of his underrated ability to drop into zone and tackle. And on WR i didnt know we still had Marcus Smith, [b]hopefully by next year Justin Harper and Eron Riley can step it up [/b]because its obvious that next year D-Will is gone because if Harbs liked him he'd be playing more. I hope we can get what the fans wanted in our 1st round draft pick like WR, something we have been asking for, for YEARS. That or CB, because i have faith L. Webb will progress into an excellent corner.
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i have been saying this since training camp and these boys have potential there young, especially harper, he has the whole package, speed quick, crips routes, he needs HANDS THOUGH!!! , im sure he is busting his butt off in practice and hopefully gaining some weight.. RILEY at 21 u have a better DHB, speed, quick great agility, i like him as are no.3 reciever, i wanna see us draft a reciever, and half kelly washington split time with harper as no.2 harper can be a big factor in our team next season
6'4 215 lbs, hopefully gains 5-10 lbs more and gets hands, WE HAVE A RANDY MOSS RAVENS FANS

as for our defensive side of the ball, i wanna see us keep fabian because hes a good corner, i like the boy alot, hes young. and he has a few things to work on, he worked on his tackling and look how well hes doing on that.. i say if we works on his hands and his slant route covering, he could be dangerous... and shutdown corner, remember last year
19 pass deflections
2 INTS
in only 10 games thats impressive, btw thats under ex ryan
WE WILL NEVER SEE ANY OF OUR BOYS PLAY WELL IN A ****TY SCHEME BY MATTISON,

linebacker wise and DE
we need to draft a DE
[b]GREG HARDY ANY1, CHECK HIM OUT, DEF HAVE HIS EYES ON HIM[/b]
OR
we do need another linebacker a speedy physical one, and im going with
ROLANDO McClain, 6'3 big fast, physical. i like..

btw. I feel bad for landry, hes a great run stopping safety but he cant cover anybody, but that also has an effect with our scheming, remember same personnel as last year but different D-COORDINATOR, overall. im dissapointed in harbaugh for bringing in mattison who has no nfl experience..

i say put in haruki nakamaura in, and ed reed needs to stop over commiting and actually tackle.. he goes and tries to make a big play but he gives up the big play...

have respect for our boys, they are all playmakers

i just hope ozzi and bischotti see what harbaugh has done with this team and brings in an unknown coach without evaluating him, or chose mike NOLAN?>???????? WHO was our coordinator before, and introduced the best thing that has ever happened to the team. the 3-4
LETS all hope we see a change next season..
i know this is gonna be kinda harsh for myself and every ravens fan who reads this
but i really wanna see the browns kick our ******, give harbaugh a wake up call, and realize mattison sucks.. but he wont cuz its his guy

our secondary will continue to give up big plays because of the lack of pass rush in this horrible vanilla 4-3 defensive scheme.. good luck ravens, when we play colts, steelers..

i seriously think brady quinn will throw for over 250 yrds. i just have a gutsy feeling. sorry fans, i love the ravens but we made terrible coaching decisions

[Bltravens]

[quote name='FabFox3124' date='15 November 2009 - 02:29 PM' timestamp='1258316968' post='281934']
i have been saying this since training camp and these boys have potential there young, especially harper, he has the whole package, speed quick, crips routes, he needs HANDS THOUGH!!! , im sure he is busting his butt off in practice and hopefully gaining some weight.. RILEY at 21 u have a better DHB, speed, quick great agility, i like him as are no.3 reciever, i wanna see us draft a reciever, and half kelly washington split time with harper as no.2 harper can be a big factor in our team next season
6'4 215 lbs, hopefully gains 5-10 lbs more and gets hands, WE HAVE A RANDY MOSS RAVENS FANS

as for our defensive side of the ball, i wanna see us keep fabian because hes a good corner, i like the boy alot, hes young. and he has a few things to work on, he worked on his tackling and look how well hes doing on that.. i say if we works on his hands and his slant route covering, he could be dangerous... and shutdown corner, remember last year
19 pass deflections
2 INTS
in only 10 games thats impressive, btw thats under ex ryan
WE WILL NEVER SEE ANY OF OUR BOYS PLAY WELL IN A ****TY SCHEME BY MATTISON,

linebacker wise and DE
we need to draft a DE
[b]GREG HARDY ANY1, CHECK HIM OUT, DEF HAVE HIS EYES ON HIM[/b]
OR
we do need another linebacker a speedy physical one, and im going with
ROLANDO McClain, 6'3 big fast, physical. i like..

btw. I feel bad for landry, hes a great run stopping safety but he cant cover anybody, but that also has an effect with our scheming, remember same personnel as last year but different D-COORDINATOR, overall. im dissapointed in harbaugh for bringing in mattison who has no nfl experience..

i say put in haruki nakamaura in, and ed reed needs to stop over commiting and actually tackle.. he goes and tries to make a big play but he gives up the big play...

have respect for our boys, they are all playmakers

i just hope ozzi and bischotti see what harbaugh has done with this team and brings in an unknown coach without evaluating him, or chose mike NOLAN?>???????? WHO was our coordinator before, and introduced the best thing that has ever happened to the team. the 3-4
LETS all hope we see a change next season..
i know this is gonna be kinda harsh for myself and every ravens fan who reads this
but i really wanna see the browns kick our ******, give harbaugh a wake up call, and realize mattison sucks.. but he wont cuz its his guy

our secondary will continue to give up big plays because of the lack of pass rush in this horrible vanilla 4-3 defensive scheme.. good luck ravens, when we play colts, steelers..

i seriously think brady quinn will throw for over 250 yrds. i just have a gutsy feeling. sorry fans, i love the ravens but we made terrible coaching decisions
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This is a pretty good rant u got there lol. BTW its tough to say the 3-4 is the best thing to ever happen to us because we havent won a Super Bowl with it, and won 1 in the 4-3.

[FabFox3124]

[quote name='CorvusCorax' date='15 November 2009 - 03:47 AM' timestamp='1258274865' post='281725']
Good breakdown.

However, I think we'll be looking at having 6 WRs on the depth chart. As of this moment we have 5.

So who do you think we'll have left? This is how I'm seeing it for 2010

WR1 Ray Rice/FA/Draft - should Mason retire
WR2 Ray Rice/Clayton
WR3 Ray Rice/K. Washington
WR4 Ray Rice/Justin Harper
WR5 Ray Rice/Eron Riley/FA/Draft
WR6 Ray Rice/Draft/FA

[b]Overall I like your breakdown. I do think we'll look at a WR (maybe even trade up for one) for #1 pick and a CB as a #2 draft pick.[/b]
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why are u saying draft a corner over a DE,, we need PASS RUSH, PASS RUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!! ENOUGH SAID.. our corners are not to blame for our pass rush i do blame most of it on mattison with his ****ty scheming 4-3 vanilla defense, but.. we still need a young guy who has a motor and quick and big. we need to convert back to 3-4

we cant have a quarterback having 7-10 seconds to throw a ball
enough said again!!!

look at other teams who have good corners and u tell me when they have no pass rush, WHAT HAPPENS>>!!??? DID U see champ bailey get embarassed against santonio holmes las tmonday night, or see revis get destroyed by ted ginn jr
or nmandi asomugha get owned by vincent jackson
this is all due to lack of pass rush every1
please realize its really not the starting corners faults. its hard to cover for 7-10 seconds, corners really should onyl cover for about 4-6 seconds..
PLaying cornerback is the hardest position in the NFL..
and our guys do a hell of a job, i like the trio of foxworth washing and webb.
maybe a corner in the 3rd round and thats perrish cox 6'2 212 runs a 4.39 in the forty, physcial, hes like a Mccalister, for all you McCalister fans

[Bltravens]

[quote name='FabFox3124' date='15 November 2009 - 02:38 PM' timestamp='1258317519' post='281943']
why are u saying draft a corner over a DE,, we need PASS RUSH, PASS RUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!! ENOUGH SAID.. our corners are not to blame for our pass rush i do blame most of it on mattison with his ****ty scheming 4-3 vanilla defense, but.. we still need a young guy who has a motor and quick and big. we need to convert back to 3-4

we cant have a quarterback having 7-10 seconds to throw a ball
enough said again!!!

look at other teams who have good corners and u tell me when they have no pass rush, WHAT HAPPENS>>!!??? DID U see champ bailey get embarassed against santonio holmes las tmonday night, or see revis get destroyed by ted ginn jr
or nmandi asomugha get owned by vincent jackson
this is all due to lack of pass rush every1
please realize its really not the starting corners faults. its hard to cover for 7-10 seconds, corners really should onyl cover for about 4-6 seconds..
PLaying cornerback is the hardest position in the NFL..
and our guys do a hell of a job, i like the trio of foxworth washing and webb.
maybe a corner in the 3rd round and thats perrish cox 6'2 212 runs a 4.39 in the forty, physcial, hes like a Mccalister, for all you McCalister fans
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Even on the plays when the QB gets rid of the ball quickly the corners are no where near close enough to make a play. You cant say your satisfied with the corner play this year in the least, when they fall over themselves, cant tackle, and turn their backs the instant the WR comes off the line.

[FabFox3124]

[quote name='Bltravens' date='15 November 2009 - 03:48 PM' timestamp='1258318107' post='281951']
Even on the plays when the QB gets rid of the ball quickly the corners are no where near close enough to make a play. You cant say your satisfied with the corner play this year in the least, when they fall over themselves, cant tackle, and turn their backs the instant the WR comes off the line.
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i understand what ur saying, i really do, but we were 2nd in the pass last year under rex ryan.. that tells u something right there
and now were 20 something?? i believe, C'MON MANNNN!! REALLY,.
im telling ya its all abiut the coaching and scheming, obviously the players are not happy especially ngata, he has shown frustration already and he has basically threw mattison under the bus, wow never expected that from HAloti...

but coaching is big, u need to be able to go back and review, work on stuff, gameplan, get the boys ready
to be honest i love dick labeau because he gets those boys pumped, they play with heart, intensity, and passion, our team seems not to do that as much with mattison. because hes terrible has 0 nfl experience, i remember some idiot called in on 1057 the fan and said this guy has 40 years of experience.. YEA IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL, WHICH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE NFL.. lmao at people who dont knwo football..

[CorvusCorax]

[quote name='FabFox3124' date='15 November 2009 - 03:38 PM' timestamp='1258317519' post='281943']
why are u saying draft a corner over a DE,, we need PASS RUSH, PASS RUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Because I can say what I feel like is appropriate for this team? And I'm entitled to my opinion. Enough said.

[FabFox3124]

[quote name='CorvusCorax' date='15 November 2009 - 04:07 PM' timestamp='1258319245' post='281984']
Because I can say what I feel like is appropriate for this team? And I'm entitled to my opinion. Enough said.
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im not hating on u bro, but are you saying a corner is a bigger need over a DE??? because im sure u watch the ravens and u see quarterbacks get 7-10 seconds to throw, so u put fault on the corners.?? do a recheck please and watch film again!!!

[Jules]

Just want to know how people feel about D'Qwell Jackson. I read somewhere, that ray says he mentors him. He is a free agent (not sure if restricted or unrestricted) at the end of this year and we really could use a replacement for ray.

And I agree. We need pass rush. Last year when frank walker was starting at the end of the year and the playoffs, he did okay. Not like how he and washington are playing now. We could use a CB though and WR. The 1st pick should be the best availble DE, WR or CB. Im leaning towards WR though I would be happy not drafting a WR first and sign via FA. And I really want that signing to be Brandon Marshall, especially seeing what he can do against the steelers.

[CorvusCorax]

Oh I see your point. In either case, I hope it's a WR, CB and DE in the first 3 picks.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Jules' date='15 November 2009 - 06:01 PM' timestamp='1258329689' post='282063']
Just want to know how people feel about D'Qwell Jackson. I read somewhere, that ray says he mentors him. He is a free agent (not sure if restricted or unrestricted) at the end of this year and we really could use a replacement for ray.

And I agree. We need pass rush. Last year when frank walker was starting at the end of the year and the playoffs, he did okay. Not like how he and washington are playing now. We could use a CB though and WR. The 1st pick should be the best availble DE, WR or CB. Im leaning towards WR though I would be happy not drafting a WR first and sign via FA. And I really want that signing to be Brandon Marshall, especially seeing what he can do against the steelers.
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Jackson is great against the run and a sure tackler. However hes not great in coverage and very rarely makes any impact plays ( sacks, ints FF). That could be scheme based, but it could also not be. I wouldnt pay Jackson more than 5 mil a year and nothing over a 3 or 4 year deal.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Bltravens' date='15 November 2009 - 03:48 PM' timestamp='1258318107' post='281951']
[b]Even on the plays when the QB gets rid of the ball quickly the corners are no where near close enough to make a play.[/b] You cant say your satisfied with the corner play this year in the least, when they fall over themselves, cant tackle, and turn their backs the instant the WR comes off the line.
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I dont think thats true at all. Our DB's are always there, as evident by the many PI calls we get. The problem is they have no freaking clue whats going on. They take bad angles, cant read the recievers and have no clue when the ball is coming their way, and they are small. They dont leave people wideopen nearly as often as the numbers would make it seem they do.