Monday Night - What Do You Want to See From the Ravens?

[Purple Punishment]

We lose tonight to the Browns? Its a serious question? How would you feel and do you think some changes would be made afterwards?

[Bosanac]

It would mean something is seriously wrong with the team.

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' date='16 November 2009 - 01:04 PM' timestamp='1258394680' post='282442']
We lose tonight to the Browns? Its a serious question? How would you feel and do you think some changes would be made afterwards?
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if we do.... this season never happened

[Alexir]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' date='16 November 2009 - 01:04 PM' timestamp='1258394680' post='282442']
We lose tonight to the Browns? Its a serious question? How would you feel and do you think some changes would be made afterwards?
[/quote]

It would only confirm how our team lacks passion and that Harbaugh is a farce. I mean seriously, I don't know any coach in the NFL that preaches character and discipline like he does and has one of the most penalized teams in football.

So basically, I would run him out of town.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Alexir' date='16 November 2009 - 01:15 PM' timestamp='1258395335' post='282450']
It would only confirm how our team lacks passion and that Harbaugh is a farce. I mean seriously, [b]I don't know any coach in the NFL that preaches character and discipline like he does and has one of the most penalized teams in football.[/b]
[/quote]

Very true. This team is unbelievably indisciplined. I truly believe the Ravens have the talent to compete with anyone but the penalties are truly back-breakers.

[darklight1216]

Espn did a similarity score on our players in honor of this game. >.< I wish they would just let everyone in on the "insider" information. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4650857&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2finsider%2fnews%2fstory%3fid%3d4650857

[Wacko4Zacko]

I want to see Quinn sacked atleast 3 times and and some Interceptions and maybe another KR return from Webb.

[FerrariFan87]

First and foremost, I wanna see a win... second, I want to see a BIG win with a lot of sacks/pressure on Quinn and our DBs NOT falling down every snap.

[darklight1216]

I want to see a blowout. Ideally we would see both Quinn and Anderson like last tiem, and maybe our corners could pretend like they really belong in the nfl. Would it be too much to ask for our pass rush to actually exist?

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='16 November 2009 - 02:40 PM' timestamp='1258396854' post='282462']
I want to see a blowout. Ideally we would see both Quinn and Anderson like last tiem, and maybe our corners could pretend like they really belong in the nfl. Would it be too much to ask for our pass rush to actually exist?
[/quote]

Yeah, Suggs really needs to earn his money tonight. Even though Joe Thomas is a Pro Bowl LT, there are no excuses for his poor performance this season. Although, I guess you could point out how bad of shape he was (and still is) in since he skipped Training Camp during his holdout...

[FabFox3124]

[quote name='poedacrow' date='15 November 2009 - 12:08 PM' timestamp='1258304892' post='281794']
1. Time of Possesion

2. 3+ Sacks

3. [b]NO 100 YARD RUSHER[/b]

4. no injuries...

4. early flight back to B'More
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u will never see 2. because of our defensive coordinator.

Mattison is no Defensive Coordinator, he's lucky cuz we have such good talent on Defense.

he has horrible scheming which players are not built to do his vanilla 4-3 defense. i cant stand it, but alot of people and analyst are finally seeing the real truth, but it cant be said or told. cuz thats basically throwing ur d-coordinator under the bus, which haloti ngata already has done

we have such good pass rushers and we dont use them like rex did, y cuz of the coaching

The real topic should be: What do you want to see the Coaches do in terms of the tem playing well on Monday night against the Browns [i]<Mod Note: Please do not type in all-caps, per our Code of Conduct>[/i]...

gameplanning, putting in the right players, the 3-4 defense
most importantly see damn mattison do some different play calling, if somethings not working do something else, move the guys around or something damn.. its sad to see such a good talented defense go to ****s from this guy.. and its true u put mattison on steelers and i wanna see wat they do.. imagine dick labeau here in baltimore..

i just wanna see ravens football which we know. but its not gonna happen, our team hasnt been playing with heart, intensity and passion which other top teams have been doing. were not a contender, sorry every1 but harbaugh did screw these players over..

whether u believe it or not.
thats exactly what happened.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' date='16 November 2009 - 01:44 PM' timestamp='1258397088' post='282465']
Yeah, Suggs really needs to earn his money tonight. Even though Joe Thomas is a Pro Bowl LT, there are no excuses for his poor performance this season. Although, I guess you could point out how bad of shape he was (and still is) in since he skipped Training Camp during his holdout...
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It seems like pretty much everyone not named Ray, JJ, or Ed kind of sucks this year. I'm not sure if I want to put all of the blame on Suggs or not; I'm tempted to blame the scheme.

[FabFox3124]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' date='16 November 2009 - 01:04 PM' timestamp='1258394680' post='282442']
We lose tonight to the Browns? Its a serious question? How would you feel and do you think some changes would be made afterwards?
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yea coaching.. which it better be, it should have happened in the bye, like i said in other forums, harbaugh we are finally getting a real look at him, he was in the shadows of rex ryan last year.
MATTISON IS JUST HORRIBLE, he doesnt know how to scheme or gameplan our guys like rex did. our team looks confused out of position, this alll comes from coaching.. we are used to seeing organized chaos, movement before ball is snapped, exotic blitzes, that was before with rex.. NOW:::: Same personnel different coach who has 0 nfl experience as a d-coordinator and we see statues out on the field, we see miscommunications, etc etc.. its obvious this blame is on coaching.

Its sad alot of fans here in b-more throw players under the bus and critiZe when its not there fought, when i was at the cinci game in cinci, of course i represented the ravens, but even fans from there said what is ur head coach and d-coordinator doing. "SO MUCH TALENT ON DEFENSE AND THEY LOOK CONFUSED" other teams fanbase realize it

changes must happen...

especially at the end of the year, mattison just needs to go
enough said

[baltiMORE RAVENS]

[quote name='FabFox3124' date='16 November 2009 - 01:45 PM' timestamp='1258397145' post='282467']
u will never see 2. because of our defensive coordinator.

MATTISON IS NO DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR, HES LUCKY CUZ WE HAVE SUCH GOOD TALENT ON DEFENSE.

he has horrible scheming which players are not built to do his vanilla 4-3 defense. i cant stand it, but alot of people and analyst are finally seeing the real truth, but it cant be said or told. cuz thats basically throwing ur d-coordinator under the bus, which haloti ngata already has done

[b]we have such good pass rushers and we dont use them like rex did, y cuz of the coaching[/b]
THE REAL TOPIC SHOULD BE WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE COACHES DO IN TERMS OF THE TEAM PLAYING WELL ON MONDAY NIGHT AGAINST THE BROWNS..

gameplanning, putting in the right players, the 3-4 defense
most importantly see damn mattison do some different play calling, if somethings not working do something else, move the guys around or something damn.. its sad to see such a good talented defense go to ****s from this guy.. and its true u put mattison on steelers and i wanna see wat they do.. imagine dick labeau here in baltimore..

i just wanna see ravens football which we know. but its not gonna happen, our team hasnt been playing with heart, intensity and passion which other top teams have been doing. were not a contender, sorry every1 but harbaugh did screw these players over..

whether u believe it or not.
thats exactly what happened.
[/quote]

I have to disagree with you there. I don't think we have very good pass rushers. I think Rex made them look like great pass rushers because he blitzed the whole team, so there were free rushers at the QB. Our guys have never had to win one-on-one battles, because if they got blocked they had a teammate coming free somewhere else. Good pass rushers feast on one-on-one matchups and demand double teams. Our guys get held up at the line or get pushed back 5 yards past the pocket. We have guys who are fast and strong, but I don't see anyone on our team with very good pass rush technique/moves/skills ala Jared Allen, Dwight Freeney. Allen is a master with his hands and we all know about Freeney's spin move. What do our guys have?

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='16 November 2009 - 02:47 PM' timestamp='1258397272' post='282469']
It seems like pretty much everyone not named Ray, JJ, or Ed kind of sucks this year. I'm not sure if I want to put all of the blame on Suggs or not; I'm tempted to blame the scheme.
[/quote]

No doubt, the scheme has killed our pass rush this season... but Suggs isn't getting off that easy.

[FabFox3124]

[quote name='nextgen_RavensFan' date='14 November 2009 - 08:57 AM' timestamp='1258207032' post='281489']
with the ravens "potential" it should be a romp ober the browns but how many penalties and how much pressure is put on their QB will be what will either be our difference in the outcome. If the QB has anythime at all our corners will just be exploited as usual. We need to keep the pressure on the QB and we will be fine. The only way we lose at all in any game is the QB pressure and penalties because of our lack of corners coverage.[b] Thats been the story all season for us. We could easily be a top team if we even had just one decent corner.[/b] Oh well, dont get me wrong i like our defense but we dropped a bundle on suggs to keep pressure on the QB when we might have been better of trying to score a couple of good corners.

We will win monday but that should be a given. We are a quality team who lacks any corners and a field goal kicker.

Who would have thought at this point i would be missing CMac and Stover. Would have added atleast 2 wins to our record this year no doubt. We are killing Ed Reed. He cannot keep track of who needs more help deep because both sides need it.
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we do have 2 decent corners and one that is coming along in webby, what r u talking about. UR TELLING ME RIGHT NOW THAT ANY CORNER IN THE LEAGUE CAN COVER FOR MORE THAN 7-10 SECONDS.. lmao at u and that statement, not being mean but C'MON SON!!! really??? give me one corner in this league who can cover for that long.

ITS ALL ABOUT PRESSURE MY FRIEND, every good corner in the league

bailey
revis
asomugha
they get burnt alot when they have no pressure
that is one thing i can say about our corners, they shutdown vertically. some ridiculous penalties have been called tho in favor of other team we know that!!!

but when u have no pass rush at all, and ur playing against an elite quarterback with 4 to 5 good recievers, they usually will complete a pass. most passes have been over the middle. that is poor scheming by the coaches. and not the right match ups, i believe carr gets burnt alot, and landry cant cover at all.. he gets embarassed, but like i said i feel bad for our team because there under a 0 nfl experienced coordinator.. who runs a vanilla 4-3 defense which were not about..

another thing, fabian and foxworth are young and speedy and they can always run with any wide reciever. yes, they need to work on there footwork, but thats also coaching. Y IS NO1 SEEING THIS.. C'MON MAYNEEE..

u need to prepare ur guys for a big game, every sunday, week in and week out. practice hard everyday and that come first from coaching..

analyst have said that this team is hurting from the safety position and the pass rush, which pretty much beats up ur corners.. u gotta feel bad for em.. not trying to back them up or be biased, but every sunday, u think the coach will change up his scheming, NOPE!!!
i kinda hope we lose this game to give harbaugh a wake up call

Maybe ozzi and steve will say something, cuz they will def have to do if we see a piss poor performance

[FabFox3124]

[quote name='baltiMORE RAVENS' date='16 November 2009 - 01:57 PM' timestamp='1258397853' post='282479']
I have to disagree with you there. I don't think we have very good pass rushers. I think Rex made them look like great pass rushers because he blitzed the whole team, so there were free rushers at the QB. Our guys have never had to win one-on-one battles, because if they got blocked they had a teammate coming free somewhere else. Good pass rushers feast on one-on-one matchups and demand double teams. Our guys get held up at the line or get pushed back 5 yards past the pocket. We have guys who are fast and strong, but I don't see anyone on our team with very good pass rush technique/moves/skills ala Jared Allen, Dwight Freeney. Allen is a master with his hands and we all know about Freeney's spin move. What do our guys have?
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ur exactly right, we dont have a jared allen or dwight freeny. but im saying rex always found a way to make something happen with our players, look at McClain from last year with what rex did with him, and now look what mattison does.. i feel sorry for these guys i really do and u know i really think they are all starting to give up cuz they know this kind of scheming from this coach will not work with big time elite quarterbacks and 4 to 5 wide recievers

also how can u deactivate barnes, who can rush the edge. u gotta find some mojo in this kind of scheming if there gonna stick with it. but no like i said, hes horrible at this, and i blame harbaugh first hand. its his job to say something. but hes not to his daddys friend!!! which is ridiculous.
give kruger a shot, we need see more mckinney i like him
put back in the 3-4
haloti DE,
Mckinney NT
switch up pryce with edwards and bannan. gotta try different stuff

every other team like the colts last night if something didnt work they mixed it up constantly on defense, heck if that would be us which it will be next sunday were gonna see statues again!!!

sorry i find this season hilarious and also dissapointing
im not pissed at our players
im dissapointed in the coaching of harbaugh and mattison

[beetus]

I really want to see an absolute blowout, have Joe set a new career passing record, either with yardage or TDs. Ideally, I'd like us to jump out to an early lead, and then have Ray Rice show the nation why he should go to the Pro Bowl. Pretty much a repeat of week 3 lol.