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[quote name='Ed_Reed_Pick_Six' date='11 November 2009 - 01:49 AM' timestamp='1257922158' post='280102']
Wildcard race against Cincinnati, Houston, [s]San Diego[/s], Denver? Yeah we can get in.
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I think SD is going to win that division easily. I see the broncos falling off bigtime, and possiblyeven out of wild card contention.
Indy and NE are the only locks for winning the division. I dont see any other AFC east teams getting in. If denver implodes the way I think they will we're basically 1 out of 3 teams competing for two spots. one AFC north team(cincy or Pitt, and imo its whoever wins next week that will winthe division), and the Texans ...Sorry jacksonville, but I give you no chance!
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[quote name='McBoller' date='11 November 2009 - 05:04 PM' timestamp='1257977098' post='280336']
I think SD is going to win that division easily. [b]I see the broncos falling off bigtime, and possiblyeven out of wild card contention.[/b]
Indy and NE are the only locks for winning the division. I dont see any other AFC east teams getting in. If denver implodes the way I think they will we're basically 1 out of 3 teams competing for two spots. one AFC north team(cincy or Pitt, and imo its whoever wins next week that will winthe division), and the Texans ...Sorry jacksonville, but I give you no chance!
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The Broncos [i]could[/i] collapse but they have a favorable schedule down the stretch and could easily finish 10-6.

I feel the Ravens can make the play-offs but I think it's pointless to go down the schedule and conclude what games will be wins or losses. However, the Ravens have enough winnable games left on their schedule to finish at least 10-6.

The key right now(even as fans) is took the season one game at a time.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='11 November 2009 - 04:11 PM' timestamp='1257977514' post='280342']
The key right now(even as fans) is took the season one game at a time.
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Very true. It already seems as though the fans are looking past Cleveland to Indianapolis. Which is how upsets occur.

Hopefully the players and coaches aren't overlooking Cleveland, even though its pretty easy to do.
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Ok, putting down the purple goggles, I still think we have a legitimate shot at the division IF Pittsburgh beats Cincy. That would drop Cincy to one game ahead of us, and Pitts would remain two ahead. We can make those two games up later on when we play Pitts.
In all likelihood this scenario could mean there's a tie for first, and with a 4-2 division record and a sweep of Pitts, we'd get the tiebreaker. Of course if Cincy hangs in there and makes it a three way tie, then we'd have to settle for a wild card spot.
Basically of our remaining games, we have to win at least two of three between our games against Pitts and Indy. If we lose to Indy, we have to sweep Pitts. If we beat Indy, we can afford to split the Pitt series. If we must lose one of those games, it would be better to lose to Indy. We are well within the playoff picture, whether some of us want to believe it or not. However, if we drop two of those three, then realistically it will be very tough to get in unless other teams play like crap.
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There's always a chance until you are mathematically eliminated or you simply don't have the personnel to get the job done. The Ravens have the personnel, they just haven't put it together yet. They have to cut down on the penalties and figure out a way to work around their problem areas. Yeah, the defensive secondary is having problems, but a team doesn't have to be the best in every position to win, they just have to learn how to minimize their weaknesses.

We just have to wait and see. I remain hopeful because I don't think all hope is lost.
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/pgStory?contentId=10352702#sport=NFL&photo=10350570

I like #2. Bottom line we need to play with heart here on out
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[quote name='flynismo' date='10 November 2009 - 07:25 PM' timestamp='1257899114' post='279898']
So you have it all figured out, do ya? Well, someone better call Oz and let him know we're going to lose to Indy, and we're not sweeping Pitts, since our season is already over in week 9 there's no point playing it out.
What's the lotto numbers this week? I need a new car, and figured you'd be the guy to ask.
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If you truly beleive that the Ravens can go 8-0 in the second half, that is great for you. However, I offer a more realistic, reasonable perspective on how we can make the playoffs, that doesn't involve winning out.
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[quote name='Bltravens' date='10 November 2009 - 07:55 PM' timestamp='1257900930' post='279919']
And if Cincy is a super bowl team I might pledge my allegiance back to the CFL lol.
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If you don't think Cincy is a legitamate contender this year, then I question if you've been watching football, or if you base your football knowledge on past seasons alone. Cincy has the playoffs all but locked up, and may have the division all but locked up after this weekend, we'll see.
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[quote name='BmoreSports09' date='12 November 2009 - 09:49 AM' timestamp='1258040944' post='280602']
If you don't think Cincy is a legitamate contender this year, then I question if you've been watching football, or if you base your football knowledge on past seasons alone. Cincy has the playoffs all but locked up, and may have the division all but locked up after this weekend, we'll see.
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That doesnt mean theyre a super bowl team. Teams like NO, Indy, and Minnesota would handle them with ease, Im also confident that minus the Redskins the teams in the NFC East would be able to go toe to toe with Cincy and win. Ontop of that Houston destroyed the Bengals statistically and won by 2 scores. Are they good, yes, will they make the playoffs, yes. I dont see them getting past the division game though.

Edit- Im talking Super Bowl championship type team.
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After coming to terms with the fact that the Bengals are the 'hot' team in the division this year, It's pretty much understood that the only way Ravens can get in the tournament this year is as a 5 or 6. Looking at the schedule and ONLY the schedule, I think we have a realistic shot at 10-6. Now I KNOW, that the Pats missed out at 11-5 last year (because of us, lol), but the line seems to shift from year to year. Also, take a moment or two to think of who else in the AFC is playoff worthy:

Colts (South)
Pats (East)
Chargers/Broncos (West)

The door is not closed people!! Right now, the West does not strike me as a division that can produce a wild card. Sand Diego and Denver appear to be on another collision course that will result in one team winning the division and the other sent home to an early offseason.
Baltimore and Pittsburgh both have the people and schedules to make late season stands for the wild cards in the AFC.

Set up at 5 and 6 spots, we just might see that rematch after all...
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Yeah, you could say that. It's definitely possible. The Ravens just have to win their games.

The teams you obviously have to beat out:

Texans
Jets
and the 2nd place team from the AFC West

We have the tiebreaker over both Chargers and Broncos. So as long as we tie either of them, we're good. The problem will be Houston, who looks like they could finally make the playoffs. We'll see how it all plays out. If we somehow won all the rest of our games, it wouldn't matter because we would place above the Steelers and take the 1st wildcard.

The next few weeks will be VERY interesting!
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The Jets took off hot, and were drowned by the Fins (Irony?) and have yet to bounce back in a significant way. Usually I'm pro-Texans and hope for the best for them, but looking at the teams that they've beaten, and the teams that beat them, their playoff prospects don't look as bright as they once did. After the tough loss in a competitive game with IND, (also wide left, more irony?) Texans seems to be in that average team limbo that we Ravens fans suffered through for two weeks and are kinda suffering now.

In other words, I personally don't see those two teams as a legitimate threat to our playoff hopes. And thank you for reminding me we own TIEBREAKS over SD and DEN. Makes me a little happier.
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and Fingers crossed we should have the same record as the Titans after Monday...the Texans bye week is this week and they are currently 5-4. The rest of their schedule is as followers in order... Titans, Colts, Jaguars, Seahawks, Rams, Dolphins, Patriots.
I believe I read the Jaguars are ahead of us right now as well (only by a game though) and the Jets sit at 4-4 as well going into this week against the Jags.
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ESPN put up the playoff picture up this morning and it's what we would have expected: The road to the playoffs for the Ravens goes through Pittsburgh. This time, however, we're struggling for one spot, the Wild Card.

The Colts and Bengals are in line for the first round bye, the Steelers are looking like the first Wild Card team, and the Ravens are still 'in the hunt', along with teams like Jacksonville (5-4) and Houston(5-4). The other Wild Card team is shaping up to be the Denver/San Diego loser.

I know it's extremely early, but there doesn't seem to be any way to make the playoffs without ripping the spot directly out of the Steelers' grip... and that will take a sweep of both games.

Without wearing the purple glasses, is there another way without a collapse by another team? If we're built to beat the Steelers, as is the contention from pre-season, we should be right on track to get back into the mix.
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[quote name='Zhamtao' date='16 November 2009 - 09:10 AM' timestamp='1258380650' post='282348']
ESPN put up the playoff picture up this morning and it's what we would have expected: The road to the playoffs for the Ravens goes through Pittsburgh. This time, however, we're struggling for one spot, the Wild Card.

The Colts and Bengals are in line for the first round bye, the Steelers are looking like the first Wild Card team, and the Ravens are still 'in the hunt', along with teams like Jacksonville (5-4) and Houston(5-4). The other Wild Card team is shaping up to be the Denver/San Diego loser.

I know it's extremely early, but there doesn't seem to be any way to make the playoffs without ripping the spot directly out of the Steelers' grip... and that will take a sweep of both games.

Without wearing the purple glasses, is there another way without a collapse by another team? If we're built to beat the Steelers, as is the contention from pre-season, we should be right on track to get back into the mix.
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If it came down to the loser of the Denver/San Diego division, we have the tie breaker. I do agree with you that it will go through Pittsburgh, but we also have to beat either the Colts or Green Bay in Green Bay, which can be tough. I think we have what it takes to finish strong and make it to the playoffs!
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[quote name='RavenRage92' date='16 November 2009 - 09:15 AM' timestamp='1258380955' post='282349']
If it came down to the loser of the Denver/San Diego division, we have the tie breaker. I do agree with you that it will go through Pittsburgh, but we also have to beat either the Colts or Green Bay in Green Bay, which can be tough. [b]I think we have what it takes to finish strong and make it to the playoffs![/b]
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So do I. If this team has any desire to play this post-season, the last few weeks will have opened their eyes. They got some help yesterday and as incredible as it is, they still control their destiny.
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We haven't played yet but here are the standings as of now

[b]1.Colts 9-0
2.Bengals 7-2
3.Steelers 6-3
4.Broncos 6-3
5.Chargers 6-3
6.Patriots 6-3[/b]
7.Jaguars 5-4
8.Texans 5-4
[b]9.Ravens 4-4[/b]
A win keeps us on the bubble with the Jaguars amd the Texans.A loss we hanging with the Dolphins and the Jets at 4-5.We have got to get it together we hold tie-breaker over Broncos(even though i don't see them as a problem at week 17) and the Chargers.Considering 3 of our last 8 are against teams ahead of us we just gotta show up and win.
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I saw the "hunt for the playoffs" on NFL Network.
It said SD/Denver, Pitt, Jacx, and Houston are all ahead of us(wildcard), but if we win tonight we will pull even with the last two. If not we drop back with Miami and NYJ
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[quote name='dethdude420' date='16 November 2009 - 11:48 AM' timestamp='1258390126' post='282397']
I saw the "hunt for the playoffs" on NFL Network.
It said SD/Denver, Pitt, Jacx, and Houston are all ahead of us(wildcard), but if we win tonight we will pull even with the last two. If not we drop back with Miami and NYJ
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yeah i got my list off espn.com with the conferance standings
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As of now it looks like our best bet to make the playoffs is by the Wildcard. So which AFC teams do you guys tihnk we need to do better then in order to gain a wildcard spot.


- Texans
- Jaguars
- Dolphins



I feel like the Steelers are defintely going to take one of the wildcard spots. So with that I think that the Texans or Dolphins [b]could[/b] take the other, although I really like our chances.
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[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' date='17 November 2009 - 01:32 PM' timestamp='1258482756' post='284649']
As of now it looks like our best bet to make the playoffs is by the Wildcard. So which AFC teams do you guys tihnk we need to do better then in order to gain a wildcard spot.


- Texans
- Jaguars
- Dolphins



I feel like the Steelers are defintely going to take one of the wildcard spots. So with that I think that the Texans or Dolphins [b]could[/b] take the other, although I really like our chances.
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Honestly, I think this team is going to prove that they really don't deserve a playoff spot.

Otherwise, NY has a pretty tough schedule ahead (it includes NE, Atl, Indy, and Cincy), and they're not that good of a team so they might not make it.

I'm not counting on Miami to win too many more games, but we'll have to watch out for Jax and Tenn, they might stir things up.
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[quote name='Twoo' date='21 November 2009 - 09:41 AM' timestamp='1258814482' post='287834']


[u]Now the FINAL ANALYSIS:[/u]

[b]Broncos 6-3[/b]
- With Orton hurt, hard to tell their future- but with Chargers coming in to town they will not win division
- 1 game up on Ravens, but [u]we own the tie breaker[/u]

[b]Steelers 6-3[/b]
- Easiest schedule stretch in the NFL
- 1 game up on us, but we play them twice and the winner will take second in division

[b]Jaguars 5-4[/b]
- Looks like a good team in this thread, but don't believe it. They allow 24.4 pts per game and only score 20.1. They have one of the bottom 5 defenses in the NFL

[b]Ravens 5-4[/b]
- Hardest schedule of the top AFC contenders
- Owns a tie breaker with the Chargers and Broncos

[b]Texans 5-4[/b]
- One of the top offenses in the NFL... with a defense that lets teams run AND throw on them. Won't last imo. Pats/Colts will nail their coffin lid shut.



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It's possible but a team like Denver or Houston will most likely get it. Denver still has chiefs twice whereas we have to play Pittsburgh twice.

Houston's pass and run defense is bad but they usually have close games with rival Colts.

After we lose Sunday (yes, im saying we lose, hopefully I jinx us into a win), we are 5-5 and are playing Pittsburgh. A game that could go either way but we will most likely be walking out of that beat up just to fly out to lambeau field where our QB has to play in the cold. Packer's defense is surprisingly good at stopping the run. After our guys hit the cold dirt and get banged up, they play Lions......If the Lions beat us....I will puke. Anyways, After that we play the Chicago Bears. Either its the team that beat the stealers or it's the team that lost to the 49ers.

I would like to think we could win these games but after watching the Browns game, I have greatly lowered my expectations on what John Harbaugh can do with this team. I think we have the talent but our being under coached or not playcalling to our strengths.

we go 9-7 and miss the playoffs.



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Can forget the updates. They merged threads (which I asked not to)- no point now. This is a discussion and opinion thread, mine was a stats and information thread. Much easier when it is in it's own thread for organization, etc.

Info is still good though =)

Enjoy, sorry.

EDIT: Apparently a mod moved it back- so I'll keep it updated now =)
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