Merged: The Undefeated Broncos - Attempt 2

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

[quote name='neepo13' date='27 October 2009 - 06:47 PM' timestamp='1256683664' post='267115']
Whats the point, you wont take the orange shades off. Nevermind, Rice and Flacco just ripped a great pass rushing and run stuff team in Minn. ON THE ROAD for almost 500 yards of total offense. They've absolutely dominated every weak defense they've gone against and have only had one questionable showing so far as an offense. But still Denver's defense is just to good for them to handle, despite 6 games that says otherwise.
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I have to agree with you on this. Seems as if MR broncos hyde is showing his. Seems to have all the answers. He already has this game played and won. No sense in even making the trip.

[orangecrush73]

Good evening to all.

I am a diehard Broncos fan in Richmond Virginia, planning on attending this week's game. I hear you all have a beautiful stadium.

I just wanted to give you guys a little info on the Broncos this year, which I am sure most of you already know, and I hope that you can fill me in with your guys style of play also, so I know what to look for in the game.

First of all the Broncos are generally a pass first team on 1st downs. Either ten yard routes or screen passes. The majority of the points that have been scored on us this year have come in the first quarter followed by about 50% of that total in the second quarter. Then as you all are aware, we really clamp down in the second half. That is one thing I really adire about Josh McDaniels and Mike Nolan is that the halftime adjustments have been incredible.

However, our defense really drops off when Brian Dawkins is not in the line-up. He pulled a hamstring in the 1st quarter of the San Diego game, and we really got tore up by Philip Rivers. Not that Dawkins is great in coverage anymore, but his ability to read the play and make the pre-snap adjustments to counter the offenses formation type.

All Bronco fans are really worried about this game for 3 reasons.
1.) The Ravens are a great team and are going to play desperately at home to avoid dropping below .500. The AFC is going to get very competitive this time of year with a bunch of good teams fighting for playoff spots and division titles.
2.) The Broncos are also coming off of a bye so hoping we didnt't get soft, or not being able to adapt to the time difference of traveling cross country. We have struggled in year's past playing on East Coast. ( I witnessed the beating first hand that Carolina gave us last year in December.)
3.) Our defense is really suspect against the screen pass when you have the guard or tackle and tight end run down field and especially with Ray Rice and his speed I can see this giving us a fit.

Now, I can guess what our game plan will consist of.

1.) Throwing the ball at whoever Foxworth is covering. Remember he was drafted and played for Denver for 2 years before being traded for a late round pick last year to Atlanta, and then picked up by you guys in Free agency. He is a good tackler from what I remember, but he always played soft coverage and gave the receiver whatever was thrown to him as long as it wasn't thrown deep. Brandon Marshall really used him in practices and I think that is why we actualy decided to let him go.
2.) Run to the outside. We have to much respect for Ngata and the middle linebacking corps. (Ray.) We need to use our speed and zone blocking to break it outside, hopefully for good gains. We have struggled on 3rd and short this year specifically in 1 yard situations. Dont expect us to run up the middle on third and short this game, as we haven't had any success with that this year. Stuffed about 95% of the time.

Now that I have blabbered on and on, I would like to know you guy's thoughts on what Denver should be looking at on both sides of the ball. And also hope that neither team suffers and injuries and that everyone comes out impressed regardless of score. Good luck, and thanks for giving me the time to post on your boards. Come to [b]Broncoscountry.com[/b] anytime. Good night.

Josh

[SuperFanJohnLinde]

Not meaning an insult to any Broncos fans here.... but the only horses allowed to win in Baltimore, are at Pimlico Race Track. [img]http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img]

[NgataHavinIt]

Coming in to discuss the game is one thing. Starting off from the beginning with posts that seem like endless bragging and overinflated stat quoting is really getting annoying. I'm sure you have a Broncos forum you can go back to and brag to each other about how every facet of your team and coaches and gameplans and strategies and blah blah blah are airtight, but enough is enough. It's getting old. Looking forward to a good game, and hoping we can correct some of our flaws. That's about it, besides GO RAVENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[neepo13]

[quote name='Bronco_Hyde' date='27 October 2009 - 07:03 PM' timestamp='1256684590' post='267124']
Oh please . . . enough with playing the matyr to the orange shades man. This is sports talk, don't go getting all offended. I'm not asking for anything unreasonable. All I was asking for was for you to back up your arguments with legitimate stats.

Based on your last post, I take it you are claiming that your rushing performance against Minnesota is a viable comparison?
Ok, Minnesota is #10 against the Rush. They give up a lot more yards and points than the Broncos, but I will concede that Minnesota is a viable defense for comparison purposes.

In that game, Rice carried 10 times for 77 yards and 2 TD's. McGahee carried 7 times for 3 yards (ouch) and no TD's.
That actually sounds reasonable. I can easily see rice getting 70 yards and a TD (only 1, since Minnesota gives up almost double the points we do). I have no problem conceding that amount of yardage. But I don't see how that can be considered "Dominating" us?
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You obviously dont know me very well. I'll talk football with Bronco fans who are really here to talk football and know what they are talking about. You dont know anything about this Ravens team other than what the statline says and what you've seen in highlight reels. So, forgive me if I dont take your opinion seriously.

Here's a stat for you, since 2000 the only team with a better home record than the Ravens is the New England Patriots. And its only a 1 or 2 game difference.

[neepo13]

[quote name='avsfan987' date='27 October 2009 - 07:04 PM' timestamp='1256684662' post='267125']
I'm a Broncos fan, not here to cause any trouble, just to talk about the game.

I just wanted to say to you that the Broncos have played 6 games that have clearly proven that our defense is capable of beating any offense. It goes both ways buddy, I know the Ravens offense has been impressive this year, but it doesn't scare me as much as the Patriots or Chargers.

Fans from both of their teams said the same things, and both times their offense didn't come away with much. Don't get me wrong, I fully expect some points to be up on the board for the Ravens, but don't expect some kind of runaway game on offense for you guys because it would go against everything we have seen out of the Broncos defense so far.

This game is only going to be won by the team who plays the complete game. So that means you are going to have to count on your defense a lot too. No offense, but I'd be a little scared of McDaniels scheming your defense and attacking its weaknesses, which is what he has done all year long with great effectiveness. And quite honestly I'd say the Ravens defense does have some glaring weaknesses, especially at corner. That doesn't exactly bode well when the Broncos have one of the best WR groups in the league, with big old Brandon Marshall and the elusive Eddie Royal leading the way.

Anyways once again it's going to have to be a complete game for the winner. Should be a real interesting matchup though, I'm looking forward to it.
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So, you think the Bronco's defense will be able to completely shut Flacco and company out. Thats basically what your fellow Bronco fan has said in all his previous posts. The Ravens have been beat by top notch passing games with top notch QB's. Forgive me but I am not buying Kyle Orton as anything more than a game manager. Based on the games of the Broncos' that I have actually WATCHED, not checked the statline from, the Bronco's win games based on defense. If our offense can come out and have a good game vs that defense (and yes they are very capable of doing so), your offense could end up in a very unfavorable position. Kyle Orton isnt Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, Brett Favre, or Phillip Rivers, I dont believe he can lead a comeback vs our, still very talented defense, like those guys can. From what I have actually seen, he gets bailed out by his wr's a lot.

[BigMike]

I have to say I don't know much about the Broncos. I must admit that I would have never guessed that they would be 6-0. I thought letting Cutler go was a ready bad idea. But it seems like you guys may the right decision. I'm going to be at the bank on Sunday pulling for a Ravens victory. Should be a good game. Looking forward to seeing Champ Bailey. He's one of my favorite players. But you know I hope he gets torched on Sunday. Anyway, hope you enjoy your day even after a Bronco loss.

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

[quote name='neepo13' date='27 October 2009 - 09:13 PM' timestamp='1256692400' post='267196']
You obviously dont know me very well. I'll talk football with Bronco fans who are really here to talk football and know what they are talking about. You dont know anything about this Ravens team other than what the statline says and what you've seen in highlight reels. So, forgive me if I dont take your opinion seriously.

Here's a stat for you, since 2000 the only team with a better home record than the Ravens is the New England Patriots. And its only a 1 or 2 game difference.
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Neepo, I would not even worry about broncohyde or whatever his name is. I think he got the boot. He tried to come on here as a Denver fan wanting to talk football but obviously just wanted to trash talk with stat cover up. I read every one of his post and it seemed like he had an answer for everything. The game will, WILL, still be played on Sunday.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan' date='27 October 2009 - 09:43 PM' timestamp='1256694190' post='267207']
Neepo, I would not even worry about broncohyde or whatever his name is. I think he got the boot. He tried to come on here as a Denver fan wanting to talk football but obviously just wanted to trash talk with stat cover up. I read every one of his post and it seemed like he had an answer for everything. The game will, WILL, still be played on Sunday.
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Agreed. The games are not played on paper.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Bronco_Hyde' date='27 October 2009 - 06:40 PM' timestamp='1256683214' post='267112']
All I'm saying is that any stat can be explained away, or brushed aside with excuses, whether valid or not. In order for the numbers to be anything, they must have some frame of reference.
If your purpose is to say the Ravens Running will do well against Denver, then show me a similar rushing game that has done well against Denver. If there isn't one, then at least show that the Ravens have done well against similar Defenses.

If you can't show one of those things, then your arguments are baseless, and are therefore nothing but excuses and speculation.


Yes, WES WELKER killed Williams in the first half. Are you telling me that Washington is as good as Wes Welker and that your offense will play a similar style?? I hope not, because I would hate to see that many completions again.

However, did you happen to look at the 2nd half stats? We made adjustments, and Welker only caught 1 ball the 2nd half.

That's why I'm saying, if you want to get ahead, you'd better do it in the first half.
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Something I'm looking forward to seeing is how the second half plays out. As you guys have pointed out (ad naseua) is how well your defense has played the second half. As well, our offense has played well the second half since last year, particularly in the fourth quarter. Now, I can't be bothered to go look up our statistics for second half since I watch our games and see it for myself, and also what Denver does in the third quarter on days that Orton shaved and had leftover pizza for breakfast has absolutely nothing to do with what goes n this weekend.
Something is going to give in the second half this weekend....either our offense or your defense. Should be interesting to watch.

[#24 Next Champ]

[quote name='BigMike' date='27 October 2009 - 06:32 PM' timestamp='1256693551' post='267199']
I have to say I don't know much about the Broncos. I must admit that I would have never guessed that they would be 6-0. I thought letting Cutler go was a ready bad idea. But it seems like you guys may the right decision. I'm going to be at the bank on Sunday pulling for a Ravens victory. Should be a good game. Looking forward to seeing Champ Bailey. He's one of my favorite players. But you know I hope he gets torched on Sunday. Anyway, hope you enjoy your day even after a Bronco loss.
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Flacco throwing at Champ Bailey is like Orton throwing at Ed Reed.....just not a good idea haha...and trust me, if either team does...they'll pay for it...Reed and Bailey are the top 2 ballhawks in the game...love Ed Reed...and Champ is the best cb in the league still...

[Bronco_Hyde]

[quote name='Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan' date='27 October 2009 - 06:43 PM' timestamp='1256694190' post='267207']
Neepo, I would not even worry about broncohyde or whatever his name is. I think he got the boot. He tried to come on here as a Denver fan wanting to talk football but obviously just wanted to trash talk with stat cover up. I read every one of his post and it seemed like he had an answer for everything. The game will, WILL, still be played on Sunday.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm still here. Because I haven't broken any of your rules, and I've backed up all of my arguments with facts. I've also stayed impersonal, and haven't had to resort to calling people names or casting aspersions on their character. Unlike a few of you, who can't seem to stand anyone saying anything against your Ravens. You just try to call people names and make unfounded accusations rather than trying to back up your statements. You go back and re-read my posts and show me any of them where i don't talk about the upcoming game.

Of course I had an answer for everything. Because I believe in my team based on what I've seen from them this year, and YES because of the stats.

I've continually said, if you have a different view of it, present your view but do it with some intelligence and not just "nu uh, our guy is better than your guy and will prove it on Sunday". That's smack talk, not discussion.

Of course the game is still going to be played, but part of the fun is the speculation leading up to it. Most of the excellent posters on this board seem to get that and respond with similar football talk (Thank you Flynismo and EdReed).

You might not like what I'm writing, but any credible poster must admit that I do have legitimate reasons for my views, even if they're tinted by the orange glasses or I turn out to be wrong.

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

[quote name='Bronco_Hyde' date='27 October 2009 - 11:02 PM' timestamp='1256698966' post='267238']
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm still here. Because I haven't broken any of your rules, and I've backed up all of my arguments with facts. Unlike a few of you, who can't seem to stand anyone saying anything against your Ravens. You just try to call people names and make unfounded accusations rather than trying to back up your statements.

Of course I had an answer for everything. Because I believe in my team based on what I've seen from them this year, and YES because of the stats.

I've continually said, if you have a different view of it, present your view but do it with some intelligence and not just "nu uh, our guy is better than your guy and will prove it on Sunday". That's smack talk, not discussion.

You might not like what I'm writing, but any credible poster must admit that I do have legitimate reasons for my views, even if I turn out to be wrong.
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As any unintelligent poster might say "uh, game on'.

[Bronco_Hyde]

[quote name='SuperFanJohnLinde' date='27 October 2009 - 05:24 PM' timestamp='1256689499' post='267170']
Not meaning an insult to any Broncos fans here.... but the only horses allowed to win in Baltimore, are at Pimlico Race Track. [img]http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img]
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And the colts, who everyone seems to be quite worried about

[Bronco_Hyde]

[quote name='Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan' date='27 October 2009 - 08:07 PM' timestamp='1256699258' post='267240']
As any unintelligent poster might say "uh, game on'.
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Not until 11:00 on Sunday, that's the only "game on" I'm interested in.

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

[quote name='Bronco_Hyde' date='27 October 2009 - 11:13 PM' timestamp='1256699621' post='267246']
Not until 11:00 on Sunday, that's the only "game on" I'm interested in.
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What other game would you think I was refering to. Like I said before, this one still has to be played on the field. The outcome may be a lot different than the one you have already played in your mind. Careful trying to jump right to the superbowl with all your great stats! Sometimes they are not all they seem to be.

[Bronco_Hyde]

[quote name='Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan' date='27 October 2009 - 08:26 PM' timestamp='1256700411' post='267254']
What other game would you think I was refering to. Like I said before, this one still has to be played on the field. The outcome may be a lot different than the one you have already played in your mind. Careful trying to jump right to the superbowl with all your great stats! Sometimes they are not all they seem to be.
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You said "Game on", meaning the game has started. Since the game hasn't started, and won't until sunday, either you're talking about another game, or you have your times or tenses messed up.

But this kind of response is what I'm talking about. Nothing but personal attacks, and trying to belittle me or my posts rather than saying why I'm wrong about my football opinions. Like it or not, I'm entitled to my opinion, and it's you who are coming closer to breaking your forum rules than I am.

They've already had to shut this thread down once, and I don't want it to happen again, so just be aware I will not be responding to you or anyone else who only wants to talk about me instead of the game until you actually talk about the game.



So, for anyone who wants to talk about football . . . . I assume you probably know more about our newly signed punter, Mitch Berger, who played with the Steelers than I, or most of my fellow Bronco fans, do. Is he any good?

[shaikh015]

If the ravens want to win the game...They are going to have to stop the pass attack and contain the rookie running back...

[Bronco_Hyde]

[quote name='shaikh015' date='27 October 2009 - 08:41 PM' timestamp='1256701281' post='267264']
If the ravens want to win the game...They are going to have to stop the pass attack and contain the rookie running back...
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i'm wondering if you won't see more of Buckhalter than Moreno in this game. Moreno has had more carries the last few weeks because of Bucky's injury, but he's healthy now, and he has a better ypc average.
There's some speculation about having both of them on the field at the same time, but I kinda doubt that will be happening.

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

[quote name='Bronco_Hyde' date='27 October 2009 - 11:40 PM' timestamp='1256701258' post='267263']
You said "Game on", meaning the game has started. Since the game hasn't started, and won't until sunday, either you're talking about another game, or you have your times or tenses messed up.

But this kind of response is what I'm talking about. Nothing but personal attacks, and trying to belittle me or my posts rather than saying why I'm wrong about my football opinions. Like it or not, I'm entitled to my opinion, and it's you who are coming closer to breaking your forum rules than I am.

They've already had to shut this thread down once, and I don't want it to happen again, so just be aware I will not be responding to you or anyone else who only wants to talk about me instead of the game until you actually talk about the game.



So, for anyone who wants to talk about football . . . . I assume you probably know more about our newly signed punter, Mitch Berger, who played with the Steelers than I, or most of my fellow Bronco fans, do. Is he any good?
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"game on" meaning we will see come Sunday. As far as your opinion goes, I think its great you have so much pride in your team as we Raven Fans do. Just try and be a little more respectful when giving your opinion. It is not the only one. I hope you enjoy the game Sunday. Have a great evening discussing your opinion with anyone who will listen, and care to debate it.

[shaikh015]

If Ed is being a wing man cover for the corners then he may not be able to ball hawk during the game..If Ed is able free float like he does then he can sense were the ball is being thrown and that is the way he gets a picks 6..

[neepo13]

[quote name='Bronco_Hyde' date='27 October 2009 - 11:40 PM' timestamp='1256701258' post='267263']
You said "Game on", meaning the game has started. Since the game hasn't started, and won't until sunday, either you're talking about another game, or you have your times or tenses messed up.

[b]But this kind of response is what I'm talking about. Nothing but personal attacks, and trying to belittle me or my posts rather than saying why I'm wrong about my football opinions. Like it or not, I'm entitled to my opinion, and it's you who are coming closer to breaking your forum rules than I am.[/b]

They've already had to shut this thread down once, and I don't want it to happen again, so just be aware I will not be responding to you or anyone else who only wants to talk about me instead of the game until you actually talk about the game.



So, for anyone who wants to talk about football . . . . I assume you probably know more about our newly signed punter, Mitch Berger, who played with the Steelers than I, or most of my fellow Bronco fans, do. Is he any good?
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Your not doing yourself any favors here with your attitude. What do you expect coming to the RAVENS message board basically telling us that there is no way that our team can beat the Bronco's? Look at your posts, thats exactly what you've been saying. Did you expect to be welcomed with open arms talking like that? I sure hope not.

I guess my point is you need to remember where you are, we are Raven fans, if you want to go gaga over the Bronco's the Bronco's have a very nice message board for you to do that. You dont come into our house, gloating and acting all high and mighty, like you know it all talking down about our team, especially when you know next to nothing about them. Now if you want to share your thoughts on the game and its key matchups, thats one thing but stop talking like the Bronco's have already won because they havent.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Bronco_Hyde' date='27 October 2009 - 11:09 PM' timestamp='1256699377' post='267241']
And the colts[/quote]


Well played, man, lol....

Not to stray off topic, but they haven't played anyone of consequence yet. I'm curious to see how they would perform against another elite team. Right now, they're just a big fish in a small pond.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Bronco_Hyde' date='27 October 2009 - 11:40 PM' timestamp='1256701258' post='267263']
So, for anyone who wants to talk about football . . . . I assume you probably know more about our newly signed punter, Mitch Berger, who played with the Steelers than I, or most of my fellow Bronco fans, do. Is he any good?
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Nothing to write home about, from what I recall. Actually I really don't remember him doing all too much of anything to stand out while he was with Pittsburgh. Not a liability either, just don't expect Lechler 2.0
We have a few Steelers fans who are regulars here, they can probably give you all the nitty-gritty info about him.

[Bronco_Hyde]

[quote name='neepo13' date='27 October 2009 - 09:04 PM' timestamp='1256702655' post='267274']
Your not doing yourself any favors here with your attitude. What do you expect coming to the RAVENS message board basically telling us that there is no way that our team can beat the Bronco's? Look at your posts, thats exactly what you've been saying. Did you expect to be welcomed with open arms talking like that? I sure hope not.

I guess my point is you need to remember where you are, we are Raven fans, if you want to go gaga over the Bronco's the Bronco's have a very nice message board for you to do that. You dont come into our house, gloating and acting all high and mighty, like you know it all talking down about our team, especially when you know next to nothing about them. Now if you want to share your thoughts on the game and its key matchups, thats one thing but stop talking like the Bronco's have already won because they havent.
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Sorry you don't like my attitude, but it is what it is. I'm not expecting to make any friends, and I really don't care to. I came here to talk football, to learn about the upcoming team, and maybe to rub in 6-0 just a little bit.

I don't deny that I'm saying you're not going to win. I'm not going to tread on eggshells to say it. And I'm not going to worry about offending people so long as I don't do it intentionally, and I take reasonable precautions to ensure my opinions are backed by fact. Anything further than that, is not my problem.

That's just how I see it and my reasons are simple.
1- I don't think your defense will stop our offense, especially the passing, very effectively because we have moved the ball all year, and are only getting better. Plus I've seen Foxworth play for years, and he can't cover our WR's unless he's gotten a lot better.

2- I do think we will stop your passing well. Our Blitzes and Dumervil have been very effective and getting pressure and we have arguably the best backfield in the league.

3- I think there is a chance both rushing offenses have a tough game. We have proven to be able to deal with the run, and even though your o-line is great, our LB's speed and blitzing scheme should be enough. But there again, your d-line is pretty good at stopping our running style.

4- I think we've got more weapons and a better coach than you. Part of this may be because of my familiarity with the Broncos. But part of it also has to be that we beat teams that you didn't.

If anyone is offended by this, I really don't care because I don't think I've said anything unreasonable. If anyone thinks I'm wrong, I welcome your reasons. I very well could be. As has been stated, that's why they play the game.
But rather than cursing me for disagreeing, just show me where I'm wrong. I'm more than happy to admit when I'm mistaken . . . though I'll probably find a new reason right afterwards.

[Bronco_Hyde]

[quote name='flynismo' date='27 October 2009 - 09:22 PM' timestamp='1256703751' post='267280']
Well played, man, lol....

Not to stray off topic, but they haven't played anyone of consequence yet. I'm curious to see how they would perform against another elite team. Right now, they're just a big fish in a small pond.
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Thank YOU!!! I've been saying it for weeks. They're getting a reputation by beating up on St. Louis and Tennessee. I can't wait until the Broncos play them this year. We've historically been really bad against them, but I think we've got a shot at them this year.

[Bronco_Hyde]

[quote name='flynismo' date='27 October 2009 - 09:36 PM' timestamp='1256704573' post='267285']
Nothing to write home about, from what I recall. Actually I really don't remember him doing all too much of anything to stand out while he was with Pittsburgh. Not a liability either, just don't expect Lechler 2.0
We have a few Steelers fans who are regulars here, they can probably give you all the nitty-gritty info about him.
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Yeah, that's kinda what i figured. As long as he knows how to kick to the sidelines I'll be happy. I was really ticked that we kept kern in the Preseason. The Rookie free agent we brought in (Colquitt I think?) was kicking a lot better I thought.

[avsfan987]

[quote name='neepo13' date='27 October 2009 - 07:23 PM' timestamp='1256693015' post='267197']
So, you think the Bronco's defense will be able to completely shut Flacco and company out.
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I never said completely shut out, not once. But yes, I think it's very possible that the Broncos will limit your offense very much. The Broncos did it against the Bengals, Patriots, and Chargers so far, all teams who scored quite a lot points against your defense but not ours.

The Ravens offense isn't any scarier than those three teams, so until a team can prove that they are capable of roughing up the Denver defense, I'm still in "show me" mode.

[ZIBBY28]

i think rice will have a big game w/ 8-10 receptions because of all the "exotic" blitzing.. im also curious to see how the battle between the wily vets, bailey and mason, will turn out. if jared gaither plays, i expect our offense to move the ball very effectively, but that remains to be seen

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

[quote name='Bronco_Hyde' date='28 October 2009 - 08:30 AM' timestamp='1256675459' post='267021']
That is an ideal strategy for you, but I'm not sure you can do it or that it would work. We have "played catchup" and won from behind in 4 of our 6 games. Dallas and NE both had us down by 10 points at half time. But it's the second half you have to look out for. Broncos D has only allowed 2 3rd down conversions in the 2nd half out of 35 attempts. We haven't allowed a 2nd half TD since week 1. And only 1 2nd half FG all year long.
If you do get up early, it will have to be by at least 17 to keep us out of the game.

As for being tested against the run . . . I don't know. We haven't allowed a 100 yd rusher all year. We held Cedric Benson in check fairly well. And we shut down Dallas quite effectively when they were #1 rushing offense.
Granted, we haven't seen a RB like Rice, but I just don't see it being that much of a problem with the speed of our LB's and the heavy blitzing.

As to the turnover battle, we've won it in every game this year except NE, and we still beat them despite that. Orton just doesn't throw Int's. He's been getting a ridiculous amount of time in the pocket and can just sit and wait for an open man. If one doesn't show up, he's not in the least bit abashed about throwing it away.
We have had a bit of a fumbling problem, but I can't picture that not being drilled into the players heads over the bye week. We'll see.



The biggest problem you guys have to worry about is Josh McDaniels. He's a new entity. Every week we have come out, there have been new wrinkles in the offense that have never been seen before. And especially the fact that he's had 2 weeks to plan and practice . . . you had better believe you will be seeing formations and plays that your defense will have no idea how to handle.


The Ravens are a very good team, but they just haven't had the same type of chemistry and unity that the Broncos have been blessed with this year. i know I might sound overconfident, but hey, it's been a long time since I was completely pleased and excited about my Broncos, and dang it, I'm going to take advantage!
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Interesting post. I wouldn't count on your defense shutting down our offense or not conceding any 2nd half points though, we've lost three painfully in a row, expect major backlash!