Merged: Scheduling Anomaly

[WinnipegRaven]

I'm really starting to think that the NFL is anti-Ravens, regardless of what the FO says. Isn't this the second year in a row that we've had to play 3 teams comming off their bye in a row? There was another anomaly last year that pissed me off - the Steelers were the beneficiary of playing teams 3 times in a row immediately after we faced them - we beat the snot out of a team, then the Steelers get to play whatever was left over of that team the following week, 3 times in a row!
Something stinks.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-sp.ravens27oct27002020,0,6604274.story

[Ed_Reed20]

I don't like it either. However, the Ravens didn't have a bye all of last year and look at what they did.

[Strangebru]

I voted no, only because I would like to think it was just a coincidence, but you do know another name for a group of Ravens is a conspiracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animal_names

[Tighthead420]

They hate the Ravens, for sure. But it's not just this. The away games we have versus others in the division, the constant penalties late in close games and the FACT that the NFL conspired to keep football away from B-more for years. Yep, they hate the Ravens and the city.

It's not just the Ravens, though. Take a look at the league. There are a few chosen teams (NE, Pitt, Indy etc) that always get every break and call. Rarely have any of these teams lost a game based on a stupid penalty or bad call. If you are a fan of a smaller market franchise, the league has made it near impossible to make it to the SB. Of course, there are exceptions (Arizona), but for the most part the league wants the big markets in there for money. That's all it boils down to...money. A lot of people are making big bucks off of large market teams doing well. If you don't think the league doesn't conspire to keep these teams in the running and toss a few flags here and there, then you are nuts.

It's the way it is. They claim to have a league where all teams have an equal chance with the cap and the draft the way they are structured. So, they have to do something to give the larger markets the advantage. So...creative scheduling and bad (bribed) officials it is.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Strangebru' date='27 October 2009 - 01:09 PM' timestamp='1256663367' post='266834']
I voted no, only because I would like to think it was just a coincidence, but you do know another name for a group of Ravens is a conspiracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animal_names
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It seems the league is also showing us an unkindness. Perhaps we should elect a new league congress?

[keyofdminor]

Perhaps, our schedule may put us at a disadvantage, and blown calls have plagued some losses to our season. It hurts not to be able to boast of such a perfect season with rival fans, especially when it’s at your dinner table. Let's be realistic here, there are so many aspects of a football game that can be compared to life, and living such, is all about managing your shortfalls. I think we've managed our challenges ([i]although some haven’t had the best outcome[/i]). At least we don’t have management issues like the Redskins.

[lgcs27288]

[quote name='WinnipegRaven' date='27 October 2009 - 01:03 PM' timestamp='1256663031' post='266829']
I'm really starting to think that the NFL is anti-Ravens, regardless of what the FO says. Isn't this the second year in a row that we've had to play 3 teams comming off their bye in a row? There was another anomaly last year that pissed me off - the Steelers were the beneficiary of playing teams 3 times in a row immediately after we faced them - we beat the snot out of a team, then the Steelers get to play whatever was left over of that team the following week, 3 times in a row!
Something stinks.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-sp.ravens27oct27002020,0,6604274.story
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You know, the Steelers played the Vikings right after us and guess who they get to play after we play Denver? (They are also coming off their bye for that game too.) Then they play Cincinnati the following after that, right after we play them. Three more games in a row this year as well.

[Marc2k6]

As a Raven's fan I'm really starting to see that some Raven's fan's always seem to come up with some type of conspiracy theory between the NFL vs the Raven's or some excuse for the Raven's losing a game. Do not make excuses, make plays and making plays win the game, excuses are for loser!

[WinnipegRaven]

[quote name='lgcs27288' date='27 October 2009 - 12:54 PM' timestamp='1256669641' post='266898']
You know, the Steelers played the Vikings right after us and guess who they get to play after we play Denver? (They are also coming off their bye for that game too.) Then they play Cincinnati the following after that, right after we play them. Three more games in a row this year as well.
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See what I mean? I obviously have enough respect for what the Steelers can do to a team to know that they would be somewhat banged up after playing such a staunch D. In previous years opposing players came away from Ravens games probably banged up and having to play the Steelers the next week must have been a point for concern. So where's the 2 way street in the NFL? From what I can see so far in the AFC North all roads lead to Pittsburgh as getting the hand from both the officials and the scheduling department tools.

[WinnipegRaven]

[quote name='Marc2k6' date='27 October 2009 - 01:21 PM' timestamp='1256671302' post='266939']
As a Raven's fan I'm really starting to see that some Raven's fan's always seem to come up with some type of conspiracy theory between the NFL vs the Raven's or some excuse for the Raven's losing a game. Do not make excuses, make plays and making plays when the game, excuses are for loser!
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Now I'd be of the same belief if time in and out we didn't end up with the short end of the stick. Things should be made equal, but when there are these glaring "anomalies" as they are calling them, something does indeed stink in NFL Land.

[bossman419]

Let me preface my comment by saying that I love the Ravens. Now, are you people serious? There is no conspiracy against the Ravens. Everybody loved the schedule when it first came out, and now after people have realized these teams are actually good they have a problem with it. Grow up, all of you.

[WinnipegRaven]

[quote name='bossman419' date='27 October 2009 - 01:29 PM' timestamp='1256671787' post='266952']
Let me preface my comment by saying that I love the Ravens. Now, are you people serious? There is no conspiracy against the Ravens. Everybody loved the schedule when it first came out, and now after people have realized these teams are actually good they have a problem with it. Grow up, all of you.
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First off, we are on a Bye - what else are we supposed to complain about? I'm not saying there IS some sort of conspiracy to keep the Ravens down, but there are an awful lot of telling facts that are out there to support a wild imagination.

Can you explain how it is that for the second year now, something that is called an anomaly (An anomaly is any occurrence or object that is strange, unusual, or unique. It can also mean a discrepancy or deviation from an established rule or trend.) can still be an anomaly when it's happened 2 years in a row? As well, I'm sure the Steelers playing an opponent 3 times in a row the week following playing the Ravens would be considered an anomaly yet here we go again, for the second year.

It's been reported that numerous fans have sent in letters to question how this can be allowed to happen and one person even emailed Goodell. For us to be discussing it here, then to be called childish with your "grow up" remark leaves a rather bad taste in my mouth.

[bossman419]

[quote name='WinnipegRaven' date='27 October 2009 - 04:01 PM' timestamp='1256673706' post='266999']
First off, we are on a Bye - what else are we supposed to complain about? I'm not saying there IS some sort of conspiracy to keep the Ravens down, but there are an awful lot of telling facts that are out there to support a wild imagination.

Can you explain how it is that for the second year now, something that is called an anomaly (An anomaly is any occurrence or object that is strange, unusual, or unique. It can also mean a discrepancy or deviation from an established rule or trend.) can still be an anomaly when it's happened 2 years in a row? As well, I'm sure the Steelers playing an opponent 3 times in a row the week following playing the Ravens would be considered an anomaly yet here we go again, for the second year.

It's been reported that numerous fans have sent in letters to question how this can be allowed to happen and one person even emailed Goodell. For us to be discussing it here, then to be called childish with your "grow up" remark leaves a rather bad taste in my mouth.
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People like you are the reason Ravens fans are made fun of. When it doesn't go your way you cry and moan. No matter what any of us say, the Ravens are gonna play the teams on the schedule.

This is just a feeble attempt to place blame on the NFL after the Ravens have beat themselves 3 games in a row. How about you contribute something football related rather than spew garbage about how the big bad NFL is trying to oppress the little 'ole Ravens.

[Jesse Conroy]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='27 October 2009 - 01:08 PM' timestamp='1256663337' post='266833']
I don't like it either. However, the Ravens didn't have a bye all of last year and look at what they did.
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People say that like we didnt have a week off last year... Yes it was only the second or third week of the season, but we still had a week off.

[WinnipegRaven]

[quote name='bossman419' date='27 October 2009 - 02:40 PM' timestamp='1256676017' post='267029']
People like you are the reason Ravens fans are made fun of. When it doesn't go your way you cry and moan. No matter what any of us say, the Ravens are gonna play the teams on the schedule.

This is just a feeble attempt to place blame on the NFL after the Ravens have beat themselves 3 games in a row. How about you contribute something football related rather than spew garbage about how the big bad NFL is trying to oppress the little 'ole Ravens.
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Now listen here bud - am I making excuses for loosing - NO, am I excusing the poor play of the Ravens - NO, am I explaining away our inability to close games - NO! I am making an observation based on what the schedule has been like and what it is
again like this year. I am not, as you say, placing BLAME on the NFL for the Ravens losses. I am merely discussing something that both I and many other Ravens fans have noticed - Scheduling Anomalies, as per the title.

As you can see by the votes, there currently are more Yes's than there are No's, so obviously this is valid topic of conversation. If you choose not to converse, show yourself the door and explore the many other wonderful threads where you can voice your opinion. As for this one, we got yours tough guy.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Tighthead420' date='27 October 2009 - 01:18 PM' timestamp='1256663938' post='266840']
They hate the Ravens, for sure. But it's not just this. The away games we have versus others in the division, the constant penalties late in close games and the FACT that the NFL conspired to keep football away from B-more for years. Yep, they hate the Ravens and the city.

It's not just the Ravens, though. Take a look at the league. There are a few chosen teams (NE, Pitt, Indy etc) that always get every break and call. Rarely have any of these teams lost a game based on a stupid penalty or bad call. If you are a fan of a smaller market franchise, the league has made it near impossible to make it to the SB. Of course, there are exceptions (Arizona), but for the most part the league wants the big markets in there for money. That's all it boils down to...money. A lot of people are making big bucks off of large market teams doing well. If you don't think the league doesn't conspire to keep these teams in the running and toss a few flags here and there, then you are nuts.

It's the way it is. They claim to have a league where all teams have an equal chance with the cap and the draft the way they are structured. So, they have to do something to give the larger markets the advantage. So...creative scheduling and bad (bribed) officials it is.
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lol...that has to be the first time anyone has ever been called nuts for not buying into a conspiracy theory...

[Marc2k6]

Winner's make play's, loser's make excuse's and point finger's ! I'm not calling anyone a loser's either. I'm just telling you what they do cause I Love all of my fellow Raven's fan's and I know we can agree to disagree sometimes.

[JoeFlax]

I think that, if the Ravens are able to overcome all this adversaries, then we will be treated like one of the loyalties such as the Steelers, Patriots and etc. The facts are there, and I can't ignore that and can't help but suspect the NFL for some kind of conspiracy also but I think that best thing to do for our sake is to watch and wait till the Ravens overcome this odds that are stacked against them. That's what good teams do.

[Bronco_Hyde]

And what if you turned out to Suck this year?? Then the Steelers would be playing against teams coming off an easy win against you and it would make it tougher for them.
The NFL has no way of knowing who's going to be good and who isn't any more than the rest of us.

And for the record, The Broncos are also playing 3 teams in a row that come off a bye week. It happens. You can either make excuses, or man up and win.

I will be the first to agree that the NFL tends to favor certain teams in scheduling. (Just look at the Colts breezing through all the losing teams) But I don't see that it's anything that is going to change anytime soon, so why piss and moan about it?

[orangecrush73]

Guys, this 3 week bye thing affects Denver too. Denver played San Diego after their Bye, Baltimore after their bye, and then Pittsburgh after their Bye. So 3 weeks in a row for Denver too.

So it is just not the Ravens. Interesting thought though, huh?

[SuperFanJohnLinde]

[quote name='Jesse Conroy' date='27 October 2009 - 04:44 PM' timestamp='1256676284' post='267032']
People say that like we didnt have a week off last year... Yes it was only the second or third week of the season, but we still had a week off.
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Actually, they practiced all that week preparing for a team they didn't get to play until their scheduled bye week, and had Sunday and Monday off, then practiced all week again for their next scheduled team.

Yes, the Ravens did outstandingly well last year. This year has seen them deal with some very bad officiating(not making excuses, but it IS a fact). I am quite confident that they will bounce back in the next few weeks. At this point, the teams we are going to face(Broncos, Bengals, Browns) are going to need that extra week to prepare... and it's not going to help the Broncos much, the Bengals only marginally more, and well, the Browns are the Browns.

Is there a conspiracy against the Ravens? Maybe... but it's more against the city of Baltimore. Our team is just the target the league has. Remember Mr. Tagliebue(however you spell it) telling us to put our stadium money into a museum?

Yes, the Ravens can, and I believe WILL Rise and Conquer.... but it's going to take alot to do, and still keep their identity as a smash-mouth, rough and tumble, MANS team!

[CorvusCorax]

Maybe this is the hazing phase of newly founded NFL teams?

Are we not playing Pittsburgh at our home on primetime instead of week one at their home primetime? So some leeway has been given in our favor.

[Steelerkillers]

[quote name='Tighthead420' date='27 October 2009 - 12:18 PM' timestamp='1256663938' post='266840']
They hate the Ravens, for sure. But it's not just this. The away games we have versus others in the division, the constant penalties late in close games and the FACT that the NFL conspired to keep football away from B-more for years. Yep, they hate the Ravens and the city.

It's not just the Ravens, though. Take a look at the league. There are a few chosen teams (NE, Pitt, Indy etc) that always get every break and call. Rarely have any of these teams lost a game based on a stupid penalty or bad call. If you are a fan of a smaller market franchise, the league has made it near impossible to make it to the SB. Of course, there are exceptions (Arizona), but for the most part the league wants the big markets in there for money. That's all it boils down to...money. A lot of people are making big bucks off of large market teams doing well. If you don't think the league doesn't conspire to keep these teams in the running and toss a few flags here and there, then you are nuts.

It's the way it is. They claim to have a league where all teams have an equal chance with the cap and the draft the way they are structured. So, they have to do something to give the larger markets the advantage. So...creative scheduling and bad (bribed) officials it is.
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I agree! I definitely think that theres some corruption in the league. Why not? Theres corruption in politics. The Nfl is political and corrupted as well. If the other major sports has it's fair share of corruption...Particularly the exposed NBA referee, I would only assume that the NFL isnt exempt. I also believe that there are certain teams with pre-determined seasons. The way modern-day NFL so-called Protects QB's (Eli,Peyton,Brett,Tom,Ben), ridiculous sworms of penalties. It's clearly evident who they want to succeed. Ultimately, Money is their motivation!

[ZIBBY28]

i would love to quote Will Ferrell in Step Brothers with what he said at the wedding reception about the wedding itself, but it would violate the COC.

i dont think the NFL is anti-ravens, but it does seem like we get the short end of the stick more often than not

[Steelerkillers]

[quote name='ZIBBY28' date='27 October 2009 - 11:59 PM' timestamp='1256705964' post='267314']
i would love to quote Will Ferrell in Step Brothers with what he said at the wedding reception about the wedding itself, but it would violate the COC.

i dont think the NFL is anti-ravens, but it does seem like we get the short end of the stick more often than not
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I agree! I dont think the Ravens are singled out. I think the league has its favorites though. Ticket sales, TV ratings, Owners, Refs Gambling on teams, Setting schedules according to personal taste or preference. The league is certainly corrupted.

[Alexir]

i said No because the league made sure the Ravens werent the steelers home opener after Harbaugh ****ed and moaned about it unprofessionally.

[flynismo]

[quote name='orangecrush73' date='27 October 2009 - 08:25 PM' timestamp='1256689557' post='267171']
Guys, this 3 week bye thing affects Denver too. Denver played San Diego after their Bye, Baltimore after their bye, and then Pittsburgh after their Bye. So 3 weeks in a row for Denver too.

So it is just not the Ravens. Interesting thought though, huh?
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Look man, conspiracy theories are way more fun than boring facts. Stop trying to rain on our parade!

[WinnipegRaven]

There are actually 5 teams who deal with this dilemma this year....

"This year is different because the Ravens aren't the only team with bye-week difficulties. The Atlanta Falcons play four teams coming off byes this season, and the Broncos, Jacksonville Jaguars and Tennessee Titans face three teams after their byes."

[lgcs27288]

We are talking about in a row though. I havent even looked to see how many teams we play coming off a bye altogether.

[XxSizzleXx]

[quote name='Bronco_Hyde' date='27 October 2009 - 04:49 PM' timestamp='1256683742' post='267116']
And what if you turned out to Suck this year?? Then the Steelers would be playing against teams coming off an easy win against you and it would make it tougher for them.

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