The Undefeated Broncos

[BroncosDivision]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='21 October 2009 - 04:05 PM' timestamp='1256137526' post='263975']I appreciate the fact that you are respectful toward the fans of an opposing team. That's classy.

I just want to point out the fact that the Ravens were supposed to be fired up after the controversial loss to the Patriots and they were not. Brett Favre said he was worried about facing the Ravens after they came off of two straight losses, but he had absolutely no reason to be afraid.

You'll be treated to a good game, just like the last three, but if I were a Broncos fan.--well I'd never be a Broncos fan, but I don't think that you should worry about the losses.

Good luck against the Steelers and Colts though; you'll need it... at least against Indy.
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Thank you.

I have no worries about facing off Steelers though, none whatsoever. Colts are good and on a roll, should be a good game alright but I just don't see Manning having much luck against our D.

Prior to the regular season, I said this would be our toughest game of the season and I'm sticking by it until proven otherwise. Looking at your record, people will say I'm crazy but if anything at all, it only makes me worry that much more.

Like I said, it's a trap game. Only comfort is that we're arguably the most well coached team of all and I'm glad we have Dawkins too. He'll step it up and keep our game together.

Regardless of what, we'll see eachother in the PO.

Wanna hear something funny? Back in the off-season, I said Ravens and Saints would meet in the SB with Saints winning it. People laughed at me, especially for thinking Saints would be able to go that far. Well, if that team they've got down there in New Orleans ain't SB caliber, I don't know what is, so who's looking stupid now.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='BroncosDivision' date='22 October 2009 - 08:49 AM' timestamp='1256215773' post='264533']
Thank you.

I have no worries about facing off Steelers though, none whatsoever. Colts are good and on a roll, should be a good game alright but I just don't see Manning having much luck against our D.

Prior to the regular season, I said this would be our toughest game of the season and I'm sticking by it until proven otherwise. Looking at your record, people will say I'm crazy but if anything at all, it only makes me worry that much more.[/quote]
You're crazy. lol j/k

Seriously though, the Colts would probably be a tougher team to beat even if the Ravens were firing all cylinders.
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Like I said, it's a trap game. Only comfort is that we're arguably the most well coached team of all and I'm glad we have Dawkins too. He'll step it up and keep our game together.

[b]Regardless of what, we'll see eachother in the PO.[/b]

Wanna hear something funny? Back in the off-season, I said Ravens and Saints would meet in the SB with Saints winning it. People laughed at me, especially for thinking Saints would be able to go that far. Well, if that team they've got down there in New Orleans ain't SB caliber, I don't know what is, so who's looking stupid now.
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Playoffs! Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game.

Child, please.

If the Ravens made it to the Super Bowl; the 'Aints wouldn't stand a chance.

[Shawn`]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='22 October 2009 - 08:07 AM' timestamp='1256216842' post='264540']

If the Ravens made it to the Super Bowl; the 'Aints wouldn't stand a chance.
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I would NOT want to see that, did you see how Drew Bree's carved up the Giants amazing secondary?

Subsitute that with our mediorce secondary. Suffice to say, we would be in ALOT of trouble.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Shawn`' date='22 October 2009 - 10:54 AM' timestamp='1256223262' post='264580']
I would NOT want to see that, did you see how Drew Bree's carved up the Giants amazing secondary?

Subsitute that with our mediorce secondary. Suffice to say, we would be in ALOT of trouble.
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I agree. The Giants have arguably the best front four in the league and have made their rushing the passer. They failed to do that against Brees and look what he did to their to secondary. Corey Webster played at a Pro Bowl level last year(despite not getting the credit) and he was embarrassed.

Ravens fans, the Super Bowl is still a possibility, but let's see how the team does over the next four weeks.

[Bronco_Hyde]

[quote name='flynismo' date='21 October 2009 - 08:56 PM' timestamp='1256180214' post='264421']
Dallas and Cincy run the ball better than us?? Fail.
Sorry that is almost laughable. Rice is averaging like 6.0 YPC and McGahee is around 5.0 YPC. I know Elvis has been racking up the sacks, but that wont do Denver much good when Rice is running it 20 yards upfield the other way.

I do think you will contain our deep passes, since our receivers pretty much suck, other than Mason. But it won't be a necessity either. We don't put up all these points each week by thowing bombs, as we will see in a couple weeks.

Should be a great game; I look forward to it. But I am curious as to why you think "on paper" Denver should win? Shutting down our offense wont be as simple as smacking around Dallas and Cincy's offense was.
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Dallas and Cincy have run the ball better than you in some ways.

For instance:
Ray Rice------ 73 attempts, 441 yards (9th overall), 73.5 yds per game, 3 TD's
Cedric Benson --------- 127 attempts, 531 yards (3rd overall), 88 yds per game, 4 TD's
Willis McGahee --------- 45 attempts, 202 yds (38th overall), 33.7 yds per game, 5Td's

Baltimore team: 154 rushing attempts, 749 total yards, 4.9 yds per carry, 6 runs of 20+, 1 run of 40+
Dallas team: 136 attempts, 805 yards, 5.9 yds per carry, 9 runs of 20+, 2 runs of 40+



So, Benson gets more yards and TD's than Rice. Part of that is because Rice only gets a dozen carries per game while McGahee gets the goal line carries. It's the difference between a full time RB and a two-headed monster.

But Dallas also has the two-headed monster system and they are beating you in every category.


Look, my point is not to say one is better than the other, because as I said before you do have arguably the best running game we will have seen. HOWEVER, we haven't had any trouble with runs at all regardless of whether it was a single back or a 2 back system. Even if you are better than these others, you are not SO much better as to make that much of a difference in our run defense. We are #4 in rushing defense and #2 in total defense.
I do expect Rice to get a couple of big runs, and Willis might punch in one or even two TD's. But that isn't going to be enough to beat the Broncos because we will be picking your secondary apart like crazy.


As for shutting down your offence . . . Dallas is #2 in total offense, you are #7, so how do you figure you are going to be harder?? You also mention Cinci, that fine, you are better than them. But you are also forgetting New England (#4 in total offense and Passing offense) and San Diego (#5 in passing) who we held quite handily.

I applaud your enthusiasm for your team, and agree it is not a gimme game for either team. But don't let your enthusiasm cloud the facts. Broncos are better on paper than you are -- not that it means so much.

[flynismo]

[quote name='BroncosDivision' date='22 October 2009 - 08:49 AM' timestamp='1256215773' post='264533']
Thank you.

I have no worries about facing off Steelers though, none whatsoever. Colts are good and on a roll, should be a good game alright but I just don't see Manning having much luck against our D.

Prior to the regular season, I said this would be our toughest game of the season and I'm sticking by it until proven otherwise. Looking at your record, people will say I'm crazy but if anything at all, it only makes me worry that much more.

Like I said, it's a trap game. Only comfort is that we're arguably the most well coached team of all and I'm glad we have Dawkins too. He'll step it up and keep our game together.

Regardless of what, we'll see eachother in the PO.

Wanna hear something funny? Back in the off-season, I said Ravens and Saints would meet in the SB with Saints winning it. People laughed at me, especially for thinking Saints would be able to go that far. Well, if that team they've got down there in New Orleans ain't SB caliber, I don't know what is, so who's looking stupid now.
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How's this a trap game for either if us? A trap game is when you lose a game that you should have easily won.

BTW, that was my SB pick too. BAL v. TAINTS

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Shawn`' date='22 October 2009 - 10:54 AM' timestamp='1256223262' post='264580']
I would NOT want to see that, did you see how Drew Bree's carved up the Giants amazing secondary?

Subsitute that with our mediorce secondary. Suffice to say, we would be in ALOT of trouble.
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I was going with the assumption that if we actually made it to the Super Bowl it would be because we had a defense that you know, doesn't suck.

[BroncosDivision]

[quote name='flynismo' date='22 October 2009 - 05:32 PM' timestamp='1256229157' post='264625']
How's this a trap game for either if us? A trap game is when you lose a game that you should have easily won.

BTW, that was my SB pick too. BAL v. TAINTS
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I don't see how this in any way could be classified as a trap game for Ravens.
That said, it has every ingredient of a trap game for the Broncos.

1. We play Steelers after the game in Baltimore
2. We beat and outperformed Chargers in San Diego and went to bye at 6-0
3. We play a team on a losing streak of 3, coming from a bye and playing at home

Plenty of more factors coming into play here, but these are for starters.

The majority would say Steelers are a better team than Ravens. Personally, I don't agree but just saying.
That could mean loss of focus from players. We've seen it happen plenty of times, so...

We'll be coming off a bye at 6-0, having beat our biggest AFCW rival, Chargers.
That may lead to some players believing we've got our division locked up and underperform. Again, wouldn't be the first time...

Ravens are clearly a much better team than 3-3 and playing a good team who's been losing 3 games in a row, in their town.
Well, if you think that's easy, think again.

Hopefully McDaniels will work on the minds of the players and have them still believing in his ideology.
One game at a time. Being 6-0 means nothing.

People seem to forget about the psychological aspect of a game.
You may have a great roster, but if they're not clicking or having the right mindset when they walk onto that field, man they ain't gonna win ****.

Anyway, all I'm saying is, this has every ingredient and potential to spell disaster for my team.
Maybe I'll have no reason to worry, we'll all know in a while.

[Ravens Unleashed]

I want everyone to revaluate the way that they have been looking at the Ravens 3 game losing streak. Lets think about this the bengals game. We had them the whole game and then lost because of a freaking amazing comeback run for the bengals, but also consider this Ochocinco almost never even caught a pass let alone score. Some times you just get lucky. Next week was the Patriots, amazing comback run and Derrick Mason drops the pass. IT HAPPENS you try playing in front of a screaming crowd and then try to catch the winning game pass, leave the man alone. Finally last weeks loss to the Vikings I must say that although I was totally destroyed by the outcome considering I was watching it with a Vikings fan, I dont blame steve for missing that field goal. 60,000 fans, not at home, and 2 seconds left, against a unbeaten team, it gets to you. Instead I went back and watched the game again. we were down 14-0 within 5 minutes but this doesn't trouble us at all we come back and kick one missed field goal doesnt destroy the amazing comeback. Stop being mad of little things that cause losses instead look at the fact that when the Ravens lose instead of getting dissapointed they come back the next week stronger than ever and ready. We take this bye rest and we come back and woop some. We have nothing to worry about against the broncos. I predict BLOWOUT!!!!

[BroncosDivision]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='22 October 2009 - 02:07 PM' timestamp='1256216842' post='264540']If the Ravens made it to the Super Bowl; the 'Aints wouldn't stand a chance.
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Ouch, not too sure about that. They looked pretty damn convincing last week!

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Ravens Unleashed' date='22 October 2009 - 01:36 PM' timestamp='1256232968' post='264664']
I want everyone to revaluate the way that they have been looking at the Ravens 3 game losing streak. Lets think about this the bengals game. We had them the whole game and then lost because of a freaking amazing comeback run for the bengals, but also consider this Ochocinco almost never even caught a pass let alone score. Some times you just get lucky. Next week was the Patriots, amazing comback run and Derrick Mason drops the pass. IT HAPPENS you try playing in front of a screaming crowd and then try to catch the winning game pass, leave the man alone. Finally last weeks loss to the Vikings I must say that although I was totally destroyed by the outcome considering I was watching it with a Vikings fan, I dont blame steve for missing that field goal. 60,000 fans, not at home, and 2 seconds left, against a unbeaten team, it gets to you. Instead I went back and watched the game again. we were down 14-0 within 5 minutes but this doesn't trouble us at all we come back and kick one missed field goal doesnt destroy the amazing comeback. Stop being mad of little things that cause losses instead look at the fact that when the Ravens lose instead of getting dissapointed they come back the next week stronger than ever and ready. We take this bye rest and we come back and woop some. We have nothing to worry about against the broncos. I predict BLOWOUT!!!!
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First of all: don't try to evade the profanity filters.

Second: it's all fine and well that the team is able to rally themselves and almost win games. But "almost" only counts in horseshoes and nuclear warfare; at the end of the game the only thing that matters is wins and losses.

I have to say that I completely disagree with the notion that the Ravens return stronger after being dissapointed.

After losing to the Patriots, the Ravens didn't even bother to show up when they played a game to determine the early lead in the division. After losing two in the row, the defense turned around and surrendered 33 points to a guy who is about 107 in football years. (Not to mention falling apart in run defense twice in a row).

They may be "little things," but the team has shown that under pressure the offense will drop the ball, the defense will give up, and even the special teams cannot be counted on.

So here's to a blowout- it's the only kind of game we seem to be able to win.

[AwakenTheDemon]

It's not really the fact of the Ravens coming out stronger after "being disappointed". It's more along the lines of, they lost three straight, extremely close games and then have a bye week to work on their short comings. They were 3 plays short of 6-0. However, the thought that the Ravens won't play stronger after being "disappointed" three straight weeks is absolutely absurd. How can you not see them playing harder after losing three close games and getting (hopefully) run ragged by Harbs in the off week?

[PuRock]

Should we be afraid of Chewy?

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[Gtown Purple]

LOL


[quote name='PuRock' date='23 October 2009 - 09:51 AM' timestamp='1256305906' post='265171']
Should we be afraid of Chewy?

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[PuRock]

[quote name='BroncosDivision' date='23 October 2009 - 10:39 AM' timestamp='1256308782' post='265187']
Hey don't hate just because you're jealous of his neckbeard.
Don't get me started on Failacco. Doom will sack him so many times he'll not want to even get back up, but who knows, you guys might be better off that way..


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Where have I heard this before? Oh yea by the Vikings last week saying that Jared Allen was going to rip us to shred. Fail. You actually sound exactly like a guy that made the same comment last week with their undefeated team.

He did get one sack but it was a blown stupid play call by us that let him waltz in.

Be prepared to scratch your head....wondering what happened to your pass rush.

[BroncosDivision]

No smack talking, just noticed.
It's all in a friendly kind of way though but I'll stop.

[PuRock]

[quote name='BroncosDivision' date='23 October 2009 - 11:07 AM' timestamp='1256310456' post='265194']
Our dominant D is a whole different story though.

You guys better be prepared when we ride into town or it's gonna get real ugly as there will be no stopping it. Doom alone is unmatched and will bring the pain. Compare him to Allen and you'll fall short as he's no match. Face it, there is no escaping those long arms and the pain of Doom!


Orton is as safe in our system as it gets. He'll rip your D apart, making you all wish for the times of 2000.
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For the last two weeks we have shut down two of the top sack leaders this year. Odom then Allen. What makes you think that Dumbsville will be any different? I don't know about that whole intangible "doom" talk, sounds like an Emily Dickerson Poem.

We will add another top-sack-getter to our impressive resume. The question is, can Orton do enough to win this game? The last three teams have beaten us through the air. Pats, Cinci & Minny.

We're on friendly smack talk terms.

[Ed_Reed20]

The Broncos only brought the house against SD with success when everyone in the stadium knew Rivers was dropping back. On top of that, doesn't SD have a banged up o-line? I remember most of the pressure coming straight up the middle and considering SD is missing their starting center AND right guard, of course the Broncos were going to get pressure. Regardless, as long the Ravens keep themselves in third and short situations, Dumerville and Co. won't be much of a factor.

[BroncosDivision]

[quote name='PuRock' date='23 October 2009 - 04:24 PM' timestamp='1256311482' post='265197']
For the last two weeks we have shut down two of the top sack leaders this year. Odom then Allen. What makes you think that Dumbsville will be any different? I don't know about that whole intangible "doom" talk, sounds like an Emily Dickerson Poem.

We will add another top-sack-getter to our impressive resume. The question is, can Orton do enough to win this game? The last three teams have beaten us through the air. Pats, Cinci & Minny.

We're on friendly smack talk terms.
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Truth be told, I've never been much into reading Emily Dickinson poems. Are they any good?
I guess Brady and Rivers used the same excuse as you when they were acquainted with the wall of Doom.

Sure, you guys have done well so far and I do believe in Ravens being a better team than the 3-3 record, but I also know this. Our defense is nasty and you've faced nothing like it all season, so if you think Wacko is gonna have all day you're in for a rude awakening.

Seriously, smack talk aside, I see this being one tough game for both teams. No walkover for either teams.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='BroncosDivision' date='23 October 2009 - 11:41 AM' timestamp='1256312489' post='265203']
Sure, you guys have done well so far and I do believe in Ravens being a better team than the 3-3 record, but I also know this. Our defense is nasty and you've faced nothing like it all season, so if you think Wacko is gonna have all day you're in for a rude awakening.
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But have the Broncos faced an offense like the one the Ravens have? The Broncos have a solid front seven and one of the best secondaries in the league but the Ravens have put up points with ease in every game but one this year. And that one game happened to be against a team the Broncos were VERY lucky to have beaten.

The one major player on the Ravens team that has succumbed to injury is Gaither, the starting LT, and he'll definitely be back.

I agree the game will be tough but I don't see the Broncos limiting the Ravens offense, especially coming off a bye when the Ravens will be motivated to get the season back on track.

[flynismo]

[quote name='BroncosDivision' date='23 October 2009 - 10:39 AM' timestamp='1256308782' post='265187']
Hey don't hate just because you're jealous of his neckbeard.
Don't get me started on Failacco. Doom will sack him so many times he'll not want to even get back up, but who knows, you guys might be better off that way..


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Plus one for your use of emoticons, lol. I would like to see our members step it up and show more creativity as well. now where's that 'beating a dead horse' emoticon.......

[PuRock]

It's pretty obvious that one of the main reasons we lost the last three games is because of the opposing passing attacks.

Brady, Palmer, Favre..........Orton? I don't think so.

Game management isn't going to cut it against us. You must be able to air it out, if you want to beat us. I like what Denver's D has been doing, will it be enough? Probably not.

[BroncosDivision]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='23 October 2009 - 04:51 PM' timestamp='1256313118' post='265207']
But have the Broncos faced an offense like the one the Ravens have? The Broncos have a solid front seven and one of the best secondaries in the league but the Ravens have put up points with ease in every game but one this year. And that one game happened to be against a team the Broncos were VERY lucky to have beaten.

The one major player on the Ravens team that has succumbed to injury is Gaither, the starting LT, and he'll definitely be back.

I agree the game will be tough but I don't see the Broncos limiting the Ravens offense, especially coming off a bye when the Ravens will be motivated to get the season back on track.
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Have we faced an offense like the Ravens have? Lets have a look at that.

1. We've beat the Patriots, one week later, they put up 59 points (!) to none against Titans.
2. We've beat the Chargers and while they're 2-3, only a fool would argue they do not have a lot of talent and a highly capable offense.
3. We've beat the Cowboys and if Romo is clicking, they're a team to look after aswell.
4. We've beat the Bengals and while they failed miserably last week, they're still very good.

Four good offenses, four good QBs. Brady, Cry Me a River, Romo and Palmer. Outscored by 26 points. If we look at 3rd and 4th quarter stats, things gets real nasty.

I could go on to include the horrible Browns or Raiders (don't forget they actually did beat the Eagles, quite impressive) in the stats, but I would rather not.

So my answer to your question? Definitely, no question there and everybody would agree. No fluke or Mile High Magic here, just plain tough work and it's gonna take the Ravens their very very best to come out victorious next week.

Let me tell you this though. If you play like you have for any of the first 6 games this season, you will not win. I guarantee that much.

[Ed_Reed20]

Orton has made some great throw but like PuRock said, the last three QBs the Ravens have faced all new how to exploit the deep middle. As long there aren't breakdowns in coverage like we've seen, I don't see Orton really hitting big down-field throws.

[PuRock]

[quote name='BroncosDivision' date='23 October 2009 - 12:28 PM' timestamp='1256315286' post='265220']
1. We've beat the Patriots, one week later, they put up 59 points (!) to none against Titans.
2. We've beat the Chargers and while they're 2-3, only a fool would argue they do not have a lot of talent and a highly capable offense.
3. We've beat the Cowboys and if Romo is clicking, they're a team to look after aswell.
4. We've beat the Bengals and while they failed miserably last week, they're still very good.
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You guys are really living a dream.

1. Bengals - You won on a freak of nature play. You should have lost.
2. Cleveland - Everybody beats up on them.
3. Oakland - When Jarmacus was in stride with his 35% completion percentage.
4. Dallas - You probably should have lost this game with your 4th quarter drive meltdown. Too bad their TE couldn't hold onto the ball. Oh and Romo was not clicking.
5. NE - I'll give you this one. Luckily you got to play that at home, with a coach that knows Belichick's tendencies. And you won the coin toss.
6. SD - Needed Two scores from your special teams to really win this game. Your running backs got like 90 yards combined w/ Orton throwing the ball for 220.

It's better to be lucky than good. I wish we had a bit of luck go our way this year. We could just as easily be 6-0.

[BroncosDivision]

[quote name='PuRock' date='23 October 2009 - 05:22 PM' timestamp='1256314973' post='265218']
It's pretty obvious that one of the main reasons we lost the last three games is because of the opposing passing attacks.

Brady, Palmer, Favre..........Orton? I don't think so.

Game management isn't going to cut it against us. You must be able to air it out, if you want to beat us. I like what Denver's D has been doing, will it be enough? Probably not.
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Shootouts will lose you games if you don't have the D to back it up.

Orton is no Brady, nor is he a Favre. Good thing too. That said, don't underestimate the guy. You'll find no other QB as solid and stable as Orton and we're all yet to see the best of his talent. Bears never played him right, that much we know now.

Game manager? Sure, that doesn't bother me one bit. Brady is of no difference really. It's all about the system and people are still not getting it. Gunslingers such as Cutler would never work in a system like the one we have.

Orton was gonna be a Heisman, obviously you'll need talent to even reach that far. Injury and not playing him right at Bears turned him into a mediocre QB during the time there. Put any QB in the position he was in and you would end up having the same result. Bad coaching and injury will get you nowhere.

Quoting Orton: "I've learned more in 4 months in Denver than I learned in 4 years in Chicago."

People have no right or reason to question whether Orton gets the job done or not. He has done so already this season. Not just managing the game, but winning games.

Regardless of how it all plays out, you too will come to the conclusion, that Orton is a different QB now. Win or lose, you'll see.

[BroncosDivision]

[quote name='PuRock' date='23 October 2009 - 05:36 PM' timestamp='1256315808' post='265224']
You guys are really living a dream.

1. Bengals - You won on a freak of nature play. You should have lost.
2. Cleveland - Everybody beats up on them.
3. Oakland - When Jarmacus was in stride with his 35% completion percentage.
4. Dallas - You probably should have lost this game with your 4th quarter drive meltdown. Too bad their TE couldn't hold onto the ball. Oh and Romo was not clicking.
5. NE - I'll give you this one. Luckily you got to play that at home, with a coach that knows Belichick's tendencies. And you won the coin toss.
6. SD - Needed Two scores from your special teams to really win this game. Your running backs got like 90 yards combined w/ Orton throwing the ball for 220.

It's better to be lucky than good. I wish we had a bit of luck go our way this year. We could just as easily be 6-0.
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Incomplete.

1. Not really. We won and we should have. We held them to 7 points throughout the game and we made the play we needed to make. Simple as that.
2. Correct, that's why I had no reason to mention them previously.
3. Again, not worth mentioning. Faiders suck, period. They played well against Eagles and that's about it. Broncos will smash them any given sunday.
4. Did you even watch the game? We sealed the deal and again, we made the plays we needed to make. That's football for ya.
5. Yeah, bravo. We won the coin toss and that's our excuse for winning? FAIL! We won that game, fair and square. We dominated Brady and co and even more so, we had momentum going into OT. Next.
6. Nope, that's not how it went down. But lets play your game, shall we? Royal had two returns for TDs, correct. Sproles had one return for TD. Final score, 34-23 Broncos. They would need another 4 points to even tie the game.

You fail to acknowledge and respect the fact that the Broncos are one hell of a team. You've been drinking too much k oolaid and listening too much to those self-proclaimed expert fools out there.

By the way, the whole "if only..." excuse doesn't work. Luck comes to play in football too, it happens to everyone and no one. We've made the plays we needed to make, you guys haven't. That's your newsflash right there.

[BroncosDivision]

[quote name='flynismo' date='23 October 2009 - 05:17 PM' timestamp='1256314639' post='265216']
Plus one for your use of emoticons, lol. I would like to see our members step it up and show more creativity as well. now where's that 'beating a dead horse' emoticon.......
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Haha thanks man.

No 'beating a dead horse' emoticon anywhere though and guess why. We're 6-0, that's why!

[Bronco_Hyde]

[quote name='PuRock' date='23 October 2009 - 10:22 AM' timestamp='1256314973' post='265218']
It's pretty obvious that one of the main reasons we lost the last three games is because of the opposing passing attacks.

Brady, Palmer, Favre..........Orton? I don't think so.

Game management isn't going to cut it against us. You must be able to air it out, if you want to beat us. I like what Denver's D has been doing, will it be enough? Probably not.
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Let's take a look at the actual stats, instead of just everyone's "impression" of Orton. You mention Brady, Palmer, Favre. Ok, here are there stats.

[b]comp/Att .... Percent .. TotalYards .. passAverage ... TDs... Ints... 20+ ...40+ ... rating[/b]
Brady:.... 156/241..... 67%...... 1724........ 7.2 ..... 12..... 2..... 17..... 2 ..... 99.
Palmer: .... 120/203...... 59% ...... 1375 ....... 6.8 ..... 8 ..... 7.. ... 17..... 3 ..... 78.3
Favre:..... 124/178 ...... 69.7% ...... 1347 ....... 7.6 ..... 12 ..... 2 ..... 15 ..... 4 ..... 109.5

Those stats are good enough to put Brady at #3, Palmer at #13, and Favre at #14 for passing yards.

So where does Orton fit in?
Orton:.... 124/194 .... 63.9%..... 1465 ..... 7.6 ..... 9 .... 1.... 16 .... 4 .... 100.1

So how does he stack up? Let's see, #7 for passing (above both Palmer and Favre). he beats Brady and Palmer in yards per pass. He beats palmer in TD's and all 3 of them in Ints. He has more 20+ plays than favre, and more 40+ than Brady or Palmer. His QB rating is better than Brady or Palmer.
And you know the sad part (for Ravens anyway)? We haven't even opened up the playbook yet. Marshall hasn't had a game yet where he'll be facing such a weak secondary as yours. Stokely is back to full health after a couple weeks sitting out. Scheffler has just started getting involved in the pass game. And that's not to mention the less hyped, but very capable, Gaffney, Royal, and Graham.

Trust me, our Passing attack, is more than competent. It will be as good or better than any of the 3 teams you mentioned. Orton is not the noodle armed monkey that he seemed to be in Chicago. He's behind the best pass-protecting o-line in the league, and has one of the best coaches in the league.

You should better also be prepared for a return of the Wild Horses formation that confused the heck out of NE. We had 100% completions when passing out of that formation.

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1. We've beat the Patriots, one week later, they put up 59 points (!) to none against Titans.
2. We've beat the Chargers and while they're 2-3, only a fool would argue they do not have a lot of talent and a highly capable offense.
3. We've beat the Cowboys and if Romo is clicking, they're a team to look after aswell.
4. We've beat the Bengals and while they failed miserably last week, they're still very good.

Four good offenses, four good QBs. Brady, Cry Me a River, Romo and Palmer. Outscored by 26 points. If we look at 3rd and 4th quarter stats, things gets real nasty.
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1. The Broncos-Pats game was impressive but the Titans are playing rookies in their secondary and quit before the game even started. Cortland Finnegan AND Vincent Fuller are all out.

2. No one can argue the Chargers don't have a capable offense but their special teams is the reason the Chargers lost the game.

3. When has Romo ever "clicked" in games that matter? Their best receiver is a TE and they go long periods without getting him the ball. And what OC with any sense tries to test a healthy Champ Bailey? The Broncos shouldn't get docked points because of that but the Cowboys shot themselves in the foot during that game too.

4. They are good but remember HOW the Broncos won that game...

And finally, Flacco is better than Rivers, Romo AND Palmer in my opinion.

Trust me, the Broncos are a very good team and I can't take that away from them. They've made plays to win the games but they've also got some HUGE breaks to help them win games.