Espn-Trade?

[Rocky Mountain Raven]

McGahee is the leading scorer because he has been the go to guy in the red zone. Rice does the bulk of the work and then Mcgahee gets the ball inside the 10 or 15. Rice or McClain could have carried the ball in those situations.

Don't get me wrong I love McGahee, but our team will do fine without him. Last year McClain led the team with 232 carries, this year he has only 14 carries.

I would only support a trade for a 1 or 2, not a 3, 4 wr.

[Alexir]

[url="http://ravens24x7.blogspot.com/2009/10/as-nfl-trade-deadline-approaches-will.html"]http://ravens24x7.blogspot.com/2009/10/as-nfl-trade-deadline-approaches-will.html[/url]

If Willis is traded, I will be obviously upset but at the same time happy for him that he gets to be a premeir back and get the carries he deserves. I will stay a Ravens fan but I was also be a fan of wherever Willis goes. Unless its Pitt but why would he go there?

[I AM LEGEND]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='14 October 2009 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1255549891' post='257138']
They did sign Drew Bennett. But seriously, there really wasn't much available. It would have cost too much money and some high draft picks to bring in Boldin or Marshall. Besides them, there were no stud receivers available. What did you want them to do?
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I wanted them to get Flacco weapons...period

they failed

not every team goes into the season thinking they'll win the superbowl...those are the teams you try and trade with..and even if a team isn't looking to trade before the season...when they start 0-3 or 0-4 they're much more willing to trade

chiefs suck...why wouldn't they listen to trades for Bowe
Raiders suck...why wouldn't they listen to trades for That CB.

Look at the Browns they realized season was over they got rid of there big Wr
bills might be done they're looking to offload TO


Ravens have plenty of options to save this season

but I forgot

Ozzie just NEEDS those draft picks!!

Why build for the future when the future is here Now!

[Corvus]

Haha, so obviously the D-Will hype and "we're fine with the receivers we have" talk during training camp was for nothing. We just signed Tyree, why are we looking for another average receiver? We really don't even need to consider a trade unless we could somehow pry someone like Marshall or Boldin away which is NOT gonna happen...

EDIT: IF we really are looking for a receiver to trade for, I think a good candidate would be Justin Gage. The Titans aren't gonna do anything this season. They just signed Nate Washington to a multi-year deal and drafted Kenny Britt in the first round, and both are looking a lot better than Gage this year. Gage was Tennessee's most productive receiver last year and is a big and usually consistent target, but has already seemingly fallen behind the other receivers. He could probably be had for a pretty decent asking price. I dunno, just a thought Oz.

[Ed_Reed20]

I don't know if McGahee will be traded but if we want to entertain the idea, let's look at teams with poor running games. The only teams I can think of are the Chiefs with Larry Johnson who is doing nothing for and Jamaal Charles who can't carry the load and Seattle who has Julius Jones, Edgerrin James and Justin Forsett which says it all. Portis is struggling a bit with the Redskins but I don't see them getting rid of S.Moss or Randle El. Marko Mitchell looked good in pre-season and is a big receiver but he's not worth a straight up trade for McGahee.

KC has Dwayne Bowe who I don't think will be traded but anything is possible and Seattle has Deion Branch who is probably a poor-man's D.Mason at this point.

[bce086]

[quote name='Corvus' date='14 October 2009 - 04:15 PM' timestamp='1255551318' post='257152']
Haha, so obviously the D-Will hype and "we're fine with the receivers we have" talk during training camp was for nothing. We just signed Tyree, why are we looking for another average receiver? We really don't even need to consider a trade unless we could somehow pry someone like Marshall or Boldin away which is NOT gonna happen...
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We lost a pro bowl special teamer in Brenden Ayandebajo, and we picked up another one in David Tyree... Seems practical and justified to me.

[Purple Punishment]

Bowe would be a nice fit here but at what cost?

[Bltravens]

[quote name='bce086' date='14 October 2009 - 02:24 PM' timestamp='1255551876' post='257160']
We lost a pro bowl special teamer in Brenden Ayandebajo, and we picked up another one in David Tyree... Seems practical and justified to me.
[/quote]
Not when you resign Burgess to take the spot, and then sign another STer when we need upgrades on both sides of the ball that are actually on the field for the game.

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

I think as mentioned that prior to the start of the season there were not a lot of recievers available without giving away the farm. Now that the season has progressed there are teams out there with very little hope of even going 500. These teams have given up on this season and are building for the next. They know their trade prospects have actually risen in value a quarter of the way through this season.

We have pretty good depth at our running back position. We all know what we have in McClain, so lets leave him out of this. What we have is Rice, Parmale, and Lawrence. That is a lot of talent. Willis is the odd man out with the most value. Not to mention his contract will be up soon. Why not go ahead and trade him for a wide reciever or defensive back. I think it will be a reciever.

As far as teams that may be looking to trade, start with the winless. There are four teams without a win and the one who lacks a running game the most is Kansas City with Larry Johnson avg. 2.4 per carry. Tampa would be the next but they just got Ward this off season and he is avg. 4.2 per carr. The other two winless teams St.Louis and Tennessee each have quality running backs and I would doubt a trade would happen there.

The more I sit here and speculate the more I ask myself what the heck am I doing. This could go on and on. Im just going to stop here and wait and see. This is crazy! If giving up Willis will help then I am all for it.

[ONCDMV]

[quote name='J-man' date='14 October 2009 - 03:24 PM' timestamp='1255548257' post='257111']
McGahee is not going anywhere, and there have been rumor about trading for a receiver for months. Has it happened, no. Will it happen, no. I really think people are starting to panic because he lost two straight, but it is really early in the season. Stop worrying.
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J-Man I couldn't agree more, lets get this win Sunday in then focus on the stretch run after bye week.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan' date='14 October 2009 - 05:10 PM' timestamp='1255554657' post='257195']
The more I sit here and speculate the more I ask myself what the heck am I doing. This could go on and on. Im just going to stop here and wait and see. This is crazy!
[/quote]
Smartest thing I've heard all day, and that includes all the classes I sat through.

You're right. Speculation is fun, but it's exhausting. And to be honest, all of us collectively have exhausted almost every realistic possibility thus far at one point or another. And now...we wait.

[J-man]

[quote name='bce086' date='14 October 2009 - 03:33 PM' timestamp='1255548812' post='257125']
Thank God not everyone on these boards have lost their minds...
[/quote]

People need to understand that Football isnt like baseball when it comes to trading players. Teams just dont throw away there best players in hopes for acquiring picks and prospects in the middle of the season. Just be happy with what we got, and in the offseason, then you can talk about who to bring in.

We are in the middle of a season guys. A season that you all had us going 12-4 and 13-3 in. Keep your head up and just hope for the best.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='J-man' date='14 October 2009 - 03:23 PM' timestamp='1255555419' post='257209']
People need to understand that Football isnt like baseball when it comes to trading players. Teams just dont throw away there best players in hopes for acquiring picks and prospects in the middle of the season. Just be happy with what we got, and in the offseason, then you can talk about who to bring in.

We are in the middle of a season guys. A season that you all had us going 12-4 and 13-3 in. Keep your head up and just hope for the best.
[/quote]
Ironically that baseball operates that way considering besides the first 15 picks, there are very few immediate major league players.

[Steelerkillers]

[quote name='flynismo' date='14 October 2009 - 03:11 PM' timestamp='1255547470' post='257093']
I love McGahee, the guy is a warrior and epitomizes what the Ravens stand for (at least when he comes to TC in shape, lol). The last thing I want to see is him leave. That says a lot because I despised him when he was in BUF, but he has done nothing but earn my unconditional respect since coming over here.

Now that I got my McGahee lovefest out of the way, I think that between Rice and McClain, our rushing attack is in good hands if McGahee is traded.

I know this is only a rumor, but assuming there is any validity behind it, I think that Oz realises McGahee is worth a lot more than some no-name receiver.

[b]I'm all for a trade if it lands us a legitimate WR.
[/quote][/b]Exactly!!!

[flynismo]

[quote name='J-man' date='14 October 2009 - 05:23 PM' timestamp='1255555419' post='257209']
People need to understand that Football isnt like baseball when it comes to trading players. Teams just dont throw away there best players in hopes for acquiring picks and prospects in the middle of the season. Just be happy with what we got, and in the offseason, then you can talk about who to bring in.

We are in the middle of a season guys. A season that you all had us going 12-4 and 13-3 in. Keep your head up and just hope for the best.
[/quote]


I hear that....the extent of my pessimism is that instead of going 13-3 like I originally thought, I think 12-4 is more likely now.

[codizzle]

lol all this talk of a legit wr????? i want a freaking corner.. are u kidding me.. someone who aint scared to hit somebody.

[McBoller]

[quote name='flynismo' date='14 October 2009 - 08:14 PM' timestamp='1255565664' post='257305']
I hear that....the extent of my pessimism is that instead of going 13-3 like I originally thought, I think 12-4 is more likely now.
[/quote]
more likely ye, but not altogether realistic. I forsee 10-6 unfortunately. Crossing my fingers that it lands us in the playoffs, which it probably wont seeing that the Pats were 11-5 and missed the playoofs.

[Tonymontana45]

[quote name='codizzle' date='14 October 2009 - 09:35 PM' timestamp='1255570503' post='257350']
lol all this talk of a legit wr????? i want a freaking corner.. are u kidding me.. someone who aint scared to hit somebody.
[/quote]
Well what I posted I heard on Sportcenter, that we are looking at someone for depth to trade for, not someone huge like TO but a WR, I agree though we need a corner, our receivers have been fine expect for last week but we need some corner that is physical!

[darklight1216]

A thread about the Ravens trading for a wide receiver. Didn't we get enough of this in June... and July and August?
[quote name='edreedfromtheu' date='14 October 2009 - 02:53 PM' timestamp='1255546414' post='257075']
I wish I could say it was McGahee for Nnamdi Asomugha... but the last thing the Raiders need is a running back.
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Do you really think that the Raiders know what the Raiders need?


[quote name='flynismo' date='14 October 2009 - 08:14 PM' timestamp='1255565664' post='257305']
I hear that....the extent of my pessimism is that instead of going 13-3 like I originally thought, I think 12-4 is more likely now.
[/quote]
With @ Pitt, vs Pitt, @ Lambeau and Peyton Manning ahead of us (not to mention the Favrekings and bungless Bengals) that's a very optimisic view.

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

[quote name='flygunit88' date='15 October 2009 - 07:02 AM' timestamp='1255546959' post='257087']
i agree tradeing willis would be a stupid move...
[/quote]
I would do it for Asomugha though.

[hammer]

[quote name='flynismo' date='14 October 2009 - 03:21 PM' timestamp='1255548110' post='257106']
How much you guys want to bet that we're trying to trade for Roscoe Parrish from Buffalo? Remember, ya heard it here first!
[/quote]

That would sound very "Ozzyish." Roscoe Parris has a cap number of 4.2 mill for 2009, while Willis is around 3.1 mill. Ray Rice has been designated as the feature back for the Ravens and his cap number is around 500,000.

Ozzie is VERY cap conscious and Parrish not only is a good 3rd reciever, but he is an "electrifying kick returner" as well. I think this would be a good trade for the Ravens. Ozzie might be having flashbacks of Jermaine Lewis running up the sidelines for a touchdown in Parrish.

[ravens world]

I dont really care who we get rid of as long as its not 1 of our top players and as long as its for a number 1 wr or at least number 2 wr or a number 1 corner. But a good trade i would say is mark clayton and a 3 for vincent jackson . Or clayton and willis for TO. Or clayton a 1st a 4th and another useless player for the raiders corner.

[Purple-Haze]

If I was ozzie I would do everything possible to get Nmadi Asomugha in a Ravens jersey. Corners like that dont come around very often.

[drfeelgood]

Offence is all i am seeing being talked about....but Why? What about our secondary.. Don't get me wrong.. I am a big T.O. fan, say what you want about the guy .. he puts up the numbers. Having him on the team would not be a bad thing if our Offence were really that hurting... I see our issue more of a defence issue, yes that is right I said defence. The secondary sucks. If the "D" would step up we have no probalme winning.. Flac and the boys do a good enough job to win games...Its been on our Defence...ok ell Clayton did drop the ball but still all and all How do we know what would have been the outcome if he di catch it. So if Nmadi Asomugha is what we going after then I am cool but to give up a player who putting work in (Willis) that would bot be cool

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

[quote name='ravens world' date='15 October 2009 - 04:11 PM' timestamp='1255579885' post='257443']
I dont really care who we get rid of as long as its not 1 of our top players and as long as its for a number 1 wr or at least number 2 wr or a number 1 corner. But a good trade i would say is [b]mark clayton and a 3 for vincent jackson[/b] . Or clayton and willis for TO. Or clayton a 1st a 4th and another useless player for the raiders corner.
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That wouldn't have a chance, Vincent Jackson is an elite wide receiver now. I'm not interested in a divisive player like Terrell Owens either.

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

[quote name='Purple-Haze' date='15 October 2009 - 06:55 PM' timestamp='1255589703' post='257501']
If I was ozzie I would do everything possible to get Nmadi Asomugha in a Ravens jersey. Corners like that dont come around very often.
[/quote]
As great as that would be, there's [b]no chance[/b]. Not even Al Davis is [i]that[/i] stupid.

[Purple-Haze]

[quote name='Ed_Reed_Pick_Six' date='15 October 2009 - 04:55 AM' timestamp='1255596900' post='257518']
As great as that would be, there's [b]no chance[/b]. Not even Al Davis is [i]that[/i] stupid.
[/quote]


Are you sure? lol, a guy can dream though. Having Nmadi would be like getting C-Mac back.

[Twoo]

[quote name='Ed_Reed_Pick_Six' date='15 October 2009 - 04:55 AM' timestamp='1255596900' post='257518']
As great as that would be, there's [b]no chance[/b]. Not even Al Davis is [i]that[/i] stupid.
[/quote]

I'm not saying it's POSSIBLE... but Davis needs an offense that can score and he doesn't have one. Davis is either going to draft a QB or trade for Vick in the offseason- his current rb likes to get hurt and Willis is a powerful downhill back- exactly what he needs. Davis plans on dumping a lot of players soon and rebuilding through a draft- I wouldn't be surprised if he's willing to discuss trades with us.

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='Purple-Haze' date='15 October 2009 - 05:27 AM' timestamp='1255602465' post='257531']
Are you sure? lol, a guy can dream though. Having Nmadi would be like getting C-Mac back.
[/quote]

Actually he would be like having a C-Mac/Ed Reed hybrid. Hes just nasty!

[BeastModeOn]

[quote name='drfeelgood' date='15 October 2009 - 02:25 AM' timestamp='1255591501' post='257507']
Offence is all i am seeing being talked about....but Why? What about our secondary.. Don't get me wrong.. I am a big T.O. fan, say what you want about the guy .. he puts up the numbers. Having him on the team would not be a bad thing if our Offence were really that hurting... I see our issue more of a defence issue, yes that is right I said defence. The secondary sucks. If the "D" would step up we have no probalme winning.. Flac and the boys do a good enough job to win games...Its been on our Defence...ok ell Clayton did drop the ball but still all and all How do we know what would have been the outcome if he di catch it. So if Nmadi Asomugha is what we going after then I am cool but to give up a player who putting work in (Willis) that would bot be cool
[/quote]


u people are so ridiculous on here. how u sit there and say our corners suck and are not physical.. because last game and the game before i have seen them pretty physical. especially fabian washington which i remember him picking up sammy morris and slamming him.. hmmm when u have a new d-coordinator and who plays soft which ravens are not about.. maybe u should go to a ravens game and watch from a view rather than tv, i go to every game even away. and u know what i see out there when i watch carefully. i see landry getting burnt constantly, hes made for the run. not pass. once again WHERE DO U ALL NORMALLY SEE THE PASSES GOING???? ANSWER: OVER THE MIDDLE. usually for 10 yrds or more, whos job is that... cuz when i watch at the game and come home and watch it from the tv, i see what mattison does with our corners... they do everything outside, once there reciever breaks over the middle he is no longer is guy, he either watches the checkdown or plays cover 2 defense. some of u sound like u dont know football at all.. make some actual observations for once.. i been saying this for a long time, plug in haruki nakamura for landrys spot and put webb in the game and get a freakin pass rush. u know whats said.. NEW ENGLAND FANs even said alot about our pass rush... u cant sit there and let a quarterback have 7-10 seconds to throw a football. u just cant, pick out any team who has amazing corners and u tell me if they can cover like our guys. fabian washington is a true corner and is becoming a no.1 corner. foxworth hasnt go tthere yet.. but i see he will be considering this is his first year ever starting in the nfl.. give them a break, stop putting the blame on these guys.. i remember going to san diego!!! and there fans even saying why doesnt our linebackers nor safetys cover worth ****.. in the bengals game, didnt every1 see cedric benson have 3 catches over the middle and made it into 10 to 15 yard gain, hmmm ray lewis any1??? how bout chris carr giving up so much ****. its unreal, i have actually turned peoples heads and made them realize, u cant cover good recievers who have an elite quarterback for maybe 4-6 seconds... because they will change there direction and come back to the ball... sorry but agree or disagree~!!! this is how it is, and if we dont get pressure on a quarterback.. were screwed... bring in kruger and barnes and mcclain... actually our starting corners cover better than any other corner when a quarterback has that much time to throw a football. considering we played, san diego, NE, CINCI. all have 4 to 5 good recievers and elite quarterback, why dont every1 take a close look. go to a game, and just weatch the secondary play. cuz maybe u will actually see our corners are good, we have no help over the middle and reed and landry leave foxworth hanging dry.. not washington cuz he knows how to be physical. so shut up about our corners not being phyiscal. frank walker is as well as fabian. foxworth needs to come around still.... eventually alot of u will actually see what the hell im talking about, and take some observations and realize what ur all saying is just stupid.. if u know true football, then u would not be sitting here saying we need a corner.!!!!! get it, got it. good!!!!!