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Merged: WR Braylon Edwards Traded to the Jets

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I must say that this doesn't suprise me one bit at all. While I understand that Rex wanted to get another weapon for Sanchez, the guy has cinder blocks for hands and a bad attitude to go along with it. If he can't keep out of trouble in Cleveland how the heck will he in NY?
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Here's confirmation on the source: Adam Schefter via [url="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/4680673360"]Twitter[/url]
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I got the ESPN text too... but they didn't say what the Browns got in return.

I gotta hand it to Rex, he is shaking things up over in NY and I think this was an excellent move for the Jets.
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Adam Schefter is still sorting out details, but it appears to be your standard player-and-pick package in exchange for Edwards.
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[b]"The Cleveland Browns... onward to 0-16!"[/b]

This is perfect, two birds with one stone. Cleveland send their failtrain on a collision course with Franchez. I love it.
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[b]Trade terms: Braylon Edwards for Chansi Stuckey, Jason Trusnik and two picks thought to be a 3rd and 5th-round pick.[/b]
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmsPy1MZTld4OXFCDMAXto05nYcB?slug=ap-browns-jetstrade&prov=ap&type=lgns
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I would not have given up Stuckey and a draft pick for Edwards, especially since the league is investigating that assult thing.
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Yeah, this has been rumored since before the season started.... and it took an NFL investigation for off-field issues to push it through.
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Between the players and draft choices the Jets gave up to draft Sanchez and the players and draft choices they traded to get Edwards, it does not bode well for the future of their team in my opinion. Its no different then what the Redskins have done for years, spend money and tons of draft picks for top end free agents. Sure it makes the top part of your roster very talented but you lack talent across the whole roster. You need to be solid across the board to be successful otherwise good teams will exploit your weaknesses. They will certainly give them a short term jolt but teams are built through the draft and you cannot continue to give picks away and be successful. I think this is a big mistake by Ryan.
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[quote name='H8R' date='07 October 2009 - 08:20 AM' timestamp='1254921604' post='251169']
I would not have given up Stuckey and a draft pick for Edwards, especially since the league is investigating that assult thing.
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the Jets gave up Stuckey and a draft pick for Edwards?LOL.not a good trade by any means on either side
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The Jets got the raw end of this deal, despite the unrealized potential of Braylon Edwards.

They essentially gave up four players for one, which is two too many for a traditional trade for a starter. I assumed it was the standard player-and-draft-pick in exchange for Edwards, but to give up a promising project like Chansi Stuckey and two mid-range draft picks in addition to a special teamer in Jason Trusnik, is just too much. Maybe Stuckey & a draft pick [i]or[/i] Stuckey & Trusnik alone would've been enough, but Rex Ryan probably got played on this deal.

Eric Mangini knows the value of Stuckey from their Jet days, and Mangini gave him his start. I'm personally not too worried about the two draft picks with how questionable the Browns' most recent draft was, but the potential is still there to draft two future starters. I don't know enough about Trusnik to comment on his value.

Ryan may have needed a deep threat to aid Mark Sanchez's development, but Edwards also has a pending legal issue, in addition to a recent injury history that is none-too-promising. Developing Stuckey would've been the better way for the Jets to go. At least the Jets weren't stupid enough to ship away multi-talented threat Brad Smith. -_-
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edwards is good dont get me wrong.but with the negative publicity with him i cant imagine rex ryan getting involved with that.edwards might be far better than stuckey but a draft pick and the negative publicity with edwards?jets got the bad end of the stick giving and receiving.no pun intended
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Now, keep in mind, if we're looking purely at statistical production, the Jets clearly got the better end of this deal. However, with a new system in place with the Jets and with so much riding on their success this season, Rex Ryan can't afford to make a mistake on yet another big risk he's taken. Eric Mangini, meanwhile, has already lost his team, so I guess a move like this is a moot point in Cleveland. Edwards has been a divisive figure in that fan base, but there's no denying that the Browns are a better team with him than without him.
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I guess the Browns see potential in Massaquoi as well.

I really question the Jets ability to make rational decisions. They flare up at the beginning of the season and then they die out. I see the same thing happening this year as well.

Let's see how many dropped passes it takes before the NY media starts beating Edward's head in and chewing out the management of the Jets.
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its "believed" the jets gave up two 3rd and 4th round picks, so putting into ravens terms, it would be like trading kelly washington, burgess, a 3rd, and 4th.. question is.. hypothetically, would you do it?
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[quote name='ZIBBY28' date='07 October 2009 - 10:53 AM' timestamp='1254927216' post='251229']
question is.. hypothetically, would you do it?
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In a word: no.
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[quote name='ZIBBY28' date='07 October 2009 - 03:53 PM' timestamp='1254927216' post='251229']
its "believed" the jets gave up two 3rd and 4th round picks, so putting into ravens terms, it would be like trading kelly washington, burgess, a 3rd, and 4th.. question is.. hypothetically, would you do it?
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Adam Schefter is reporting a 3rd and a 5th with the potential of the 3rd becoming a 2nd if Edwards catches a certain number of passes! Which is supposed to be a very high number which is unlikely.
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[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='07 October 2009 - 10:55 AM' timestamp='1254927330' post='251233']
In a word: no.
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c'mon franny i know you're not one to answer with one word responses!!.. please explain lol
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[quote name='ZIBBY28' date='07 October 2009 - 11:24 AM' timestamp='1254929082' post='251245']
c'mon franny i know you're not one to answer with one word responses!!.. please explain lol
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If you insist. ;)

The deal, essentially, is for a raw project of a [b]receiver[/b], a backup [b]LB[/b]/special teams maven, and two mid-range [b]draft picks[/b] in exchange for [b]Braylon Edwards[/b], right? Regardless of which players you apply to the deal if this were the Ravens making the trade, the [i]two[/i] draft picks are what give me pause.

If they turn out to be performance-based, conditional picks, then the Ravens are still giving up too much in the deal; Edwards is not a sure thing, and the sacrifice would be too great in the long-term [i]unless[/i] Edwards performs at a level equal to Larry Fitzgerald.

The success rate of drafting a quality starter with both of those two picks is much higher than in the first round, depending on the position. The backup LB is expendable, so that's a non-issue. The raw project of a receiver is a slightly harder pill to swallow unless, again, Edwards performs. But to package those two player [i]and[/i] the two draft picks, is simply too much for a guy who has more questions than answers.

It's been reiterated time-and-again that the Ravens are ready to contend now, save for one more piece. But in order to ensure that the missing piece fits, you go after a proven, quality guy if you're willing to give up that much -- not a guy with a recent injury history, off-the-field issues, and a declining trend in production.
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very interesting....they've been working on a deal for a couple months now. Not surprising at all that Edwards was moved before the deadline. I wonder if NYG made a push for him.

Considering how poorly Cleveland has drafted over the years, this could turn sour for them.

Dirty Sanchez needs a target to help him develop. IF he is the real deal, I believe this could very well turn out to be a steal for the Jets. Braylon can play, and until last year when he battled injuries and atrocious quarterbacks, he has been a very productive player with marginal qb's throwing him the ball.

Bottom line for the Browns is that Braylon had to go, he clearly wasn't welcome there anymore.

Was it too much to give up? Perhaps. I dont believe it was, personally. If Braylon flops (which I think is unlikely), all the Jets lost was a third and a couple project players. If he returns to form with what appears to be a solid quarterback, I think this was a great trade for them.
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[quote name='ravensfan160' date='07 October 2009 - 10:31 AM' timestamp='1254922279' post='251171']
Between the players and draft choices the Jets gave up to draft Sanchez and the players and draft choices they traded to get Edwards, it does not bode well for the future of their team in my opinion. Its no different then what the Redskins have done for years, spend money and tons of draft picks for top end free agents. Sure it makes the top part of your roster very talented but you lack talent across the whole roster. You need to be solid across the board to be successful otherwise good teams will exploit your weaknesses. They will certainly give them a short term jolt but teams are built through the draft and you cannot continue to give picks away and be successful. I think this is a big mistake by Ryan.
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Agreed. They gave up way too much for Braylon "Butterfingers" Edwards. How bad will this trade look if he ends up getting suspended for hitting LeBron's friend? If Ryan keeps making trades like this, the Jets will be a perpetual 8 - 8 team just like the Redskins.
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[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='07 October 2009 - 11:57 AM' timestamp='1254931044' post='251259']
It's been reiterated time-and-again that the Ravens are ready to contend now, save for one more piece. But in order to ensure that the missing piece fits, you go after a proven, quality guy if you're willing to give up that much -- not a guy with a recent injury history, off-the-field issues, and a declining trend in production.
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I disagree with you regarding the Jets making this trade. I'm inclined to agree that the Ravens should not have done this, though (even though historically we dont do so great in the third round).
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