The Non-Call Pi Between Chambers & Foxworth

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

After a quick visit to the Charger's forums, I've found that many of their fans blame the loss on the supposed non-call PI on the Barnes' INT. Though it did seem questionable, did anybody catch the blatant PI by Chamber's in the end zone? I know it may seem irrelevant, but I've only now had the chance to watch the game after TiVO-ing the contest. For anyone unfamiliar with the play, Chambers grabbed Foxworth's arm in the endzone, as the two battled for position, and then dragged him to the ground as the ball neared their presence. Depleted what would have been either an INT or a costly penalty into 3 points against us. Well called otherwise though, except for the Merriman's clearly mistimed jump.

[rlh445]

[quote name='LosT_in_TranSlatioN' date='22 September 2009 - 02:12 AM' timestamp='1253599953' post='239725']
After a quick visit to the Charger's forums, I've found that many of their fans blame the loss on the supposed non-call PI on the Barnes' INT. Though it did seem questionable, did anybody catch the blatant PI by Chamber's in the end zone? I know it may seem irrelevant, but I've only now had the chance to watch the game after TiVO-ing the contest. For anyone unfamiliar with the play, Chambers grabbed Foxworth's arm in the endzone, as the two battled for position, and then dragged him to the ground as the ball neared their presence. Depleted what would have been either an INT or a costly penalty into 3 points against us. Well called otherwise though, except for the Merriman's clearly mistimed jump.
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Meh, I'd say it's a wash, seeing as how the zebras were just moronic and bad calls went both ways. Most of the Chargers fans seem to be blaming Norv for the loss, and admit that the refs were just horrible all the way around. I wouldn't take it too seriously.

[macbrak]

The replay looked like there was very little contact. Even the Homer CBS staff said that.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

[quote name='macbrak' date='22 September 2009 - 08:21 AM' timestamp='1253622119' post='239762']
The replay looked like there was very little contact. Even the Homer CBS staff said that.
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I would have to disagree. I just watched it.

[JEEPercreepermd]

The Refs gave SD a few very favorable spots too. There was one on a Rivers QB sneak where we stopped him a yard behind the marker but they gave them the first down

[macbrak]

nm, I was talking about the Barnes play "PI". The replay on that showed the receiver falling over his feet. I need to read better...

If I remember, to me the Foxworth/Chambers thing was basically both players pushing the limits of allowable contact.

[Ravnet]

Is that the play Fabian was so heated about?

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='macbrak' date='22 September 2009 - 09:20 AM' timestamp='1253625601' post='239775']
nm, I was talking about the Barnes play "PI". The replay on that showed the receiver falling over his feet. I need to read better...

If I remember, to me the Foxworth/Chambers thing was basically both players pushing the limits of allowable contact.
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Actually, Chambers yanked Foxworth down with his left hand on Foxworth's left shoulder. The shot they showed on TV was of the front of them, but if you want Foxworth's jersey at the left shoulder, and Chambers' left side, you'll see what I mean.

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='Ravnet' date='22 September 2009 - 10:05 AM' timestamp='1253628336' post='239780']
Is that the play Fabian was so heated about?
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Yeah, I think so. Fabian saw how bad it was because he saw the yanking. Foxworth had position, and Chambers interfered, badly, with his ability to catch the ball.

[PuRock]

What about the non-call on Vincent Jackson choking our guy (Fabian I think it was)? That was as apparent as it gets.

But overall I think we got a lot of good breaks from the Refs as well.

[Bltravens]

I dont think it was PI i mean at what point can a defender not even smell a receiver and its PI? Foxworth didnt do anything major to disrupt him catching the ball and at the end of the play he stuck his hand in to deflect it, he went after and got the tip. But personal opinion.

[Perfekt]

what about the play where i think it was foxworth was on the ground getting pounded by a reciever lol. my point being the games over bad calls went both ways so dont worry about what other fans are saying. all that is important is that we won the game and need to look forward.

[lowrider]

You can always blame it on the refs. But all in all they almost had 500 yards throwing. Let's be realistic. When you put up those kinds of numbers there is no excuse. They lost that game. They should have put it in the endzone and they didn't. We won the game. No amount of complaining is bringing that back.

[BmoreRav]

[quote name='Bltravens' date='22 September 2009 - 05:14 PM' timestamp='1253636085' post='239846']
I dont think it was PI i mean at what point can a defender not even smell a receiver and its PI? Foxworth didnt do anything major to disrupt him catching the ball and at the end of the play he stuck his hand in to deflect it, he went after and got the tip. But personal opinion.
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He's talking about Offensive PI! I was expecting a flag to be thrown on the play, I thought it was pretty blatant myself. I don't think the commentators even called it from what I can remember though?!

[ravensfan2430]

i thought the bad calls went both ways.... i didn't see enough one way or the other to think the refs were screwing over one team more than the other.

[Corvus]

Oooooo a missed pass interference. There are missed calls in every game and bogus calls in every game. The Chargers had a chance to win and decided to RUN the ball on 4th and 2 with 37 seconds left. They have no one to blame but Norv Turner.

[macbrak]

you forgot the "against one of the best run defenses in the nfl" corvus

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='LosT_in_TranSlatioN' date='22 September 2009 - 02:12 AM' timestamp='1253599953' post='239725']
After a quick visit to the Charger's forums, I've found that many of their fans blame the loss on the supposed non-call PI on the Barnes' INT. Though it did seem questionable, did anybody catch the blatant PI by Chamber's in the end zone? I know it may seem irrelevant, but I've only now had the chance to watch the game after TiVO-ing the contest. For anyone unfamiliar with the play, Chambers grabbed Foxworth's arm in the endzone, as the two battled for position, and then dragged him to the ground as the ball neared their presence. Depleted what would have been either an INT or a costly penalty into 3 points against us. Well called otherwise though, except for the Merriman's clearly mistimed jump.
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Yeah I saw that play and I was heated, if Foxworth would have grab him like that, you would have thought you were at a steelers game cause there would have been yellow toilet tissue everywhere. I not even going to talk about the refs causing a false start!

[Bltravens]

[quote name='BmoreRav' date='22 September 2009 - 03:12 PM' timestamp='1253653933' post='240011']
He's talking about Offensive PI! I was expecting a flag to be thrown on the play, I thought it was pretty blatant myself. I don't think the commentators even called it from what I can remember though?!
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lol man did i read the title wrong or what.

[Ravens52]

it was a good non call.

[smashmouth]

Meh, like everyone said, calls went both ways. I think that Chambers should have been called on it, as well as Foxworth on the Barnes INT. BUT On Flacco's INT Merriman was clearly over the line. I'll say it over and over, there's no way anyone can time the snap "that" perfectly, especially considering he was in Flacco's face by the time Gaither was fully out of his stance.
I seen a couple of borderline holds on both teams aswell.

From what I've been noticing accross every game the past few years is that bad officating is now apart of your everyday game.

Just want to add, at least there wasnt a bad call that chose the immedate outcome of the game. I hate when a team, any team, even if it's agaisnt us gets a huge penalty that literary helps a team when, especially a contraversioul call.

[William Murderface]

I think Jammer made a very similar play on Mason on a third down in the first half (talking about the barnes interception). They both had some contact on the backside and stuck their arm in front of the pass to deflect it with relatively the same amount of contact. They didnt call PI for that play so i applaud them for staying consistent.

About the one on Foxworth, yeah that was a PI and it probably should have been called but it wasnt so oh well, i dont really like to play the game of what ifs especially when we won.