No Salary Cap In 2010? (Merged)

[Ryan561]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8125af10&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true

[thewarden86]

[quote name='Ryan561' date='03 September 2009 - 10:43 PM' timestamp='1252032238' post='228996']
[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8125af10&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]http://www.nfl.com/n...ts&confirm=true[/url]
[/quote]


I wouldn't count on an uncapped year.

[SaVaGe]

[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8125af10&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]Link[/url]

[spoiler]NEW YORK -- No NFL salary cap next season seems like a foregone conclusion to commissioner Roger Goodell.

Without any substantive negotiations toward a new collective bargaining agreement, Goodell said Thursday that team owners are preparing for an uncapped 2010 season, the final year of the current deal that they opted out of last year.

"Because of the timing, we recognize there's a strong reality there will be an uncapped year, and the owners have planned for it," Goodell said. "What the owners' intent is is to get an agreement."

Goodell also bristled at the notion that the owners would lock out the players in 2011.

"That a lockout would be their objective, that's foolish," he said.

Goodell met with union chief DeMaurice Smith over lunch Tuesday, but no negotiations took place.

"I told De, 'Let's start negotiating,'" Goodell said, "and that's our intent."

However, there is no timetable for beginning significant talks, and the union says the onus is on the owners to present an offer.

According to league figures, the players have received about 75 percent of revenues since 2006, while the other 25 percent has gone to costs, plus another 6 percent over that which owners have absorbed because of rising costs.

The union disputes those numbers.

"The CBA explicitly restricts player costs to just under 60 percent," NFLPA spokesman George Atallah told The Associated Press. "That is fixed. They'd have to provide relevant information to support that wild claim because we certainly don't have it."

But Goodell insisted that the union knows everything about the teams' finances.

"The union has incredible information with respect to the teams. They have audit rights," Goodell said. "I think that's a distraction from the real issues. We don't want to get into rhetoric. I told that directly to De on Tuesday."

Early in a news conference at league headquarters, Goodell announced that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick will be eligible to play in Week 3 of the regular season. Goodell originally ruled that Vick, who completed a 23-month federal sentence for dogfighting earlier this summer, couldn't return before the sixth week of the season.

Goodell also noted that several early season games aren't sold out and could be blacked out locally, although he said "our worst-case projection is at least 80 percent of our games will be shown in local markets and are sold out."

While Goodell wasn't bullish on a quick resolution to the labor situation, he expressed optimism about the league's presence in England -- so much so that he envisions more than one regular-season game in London next year and perhaps a franchise there in the future.

Goodell reiterated his support for an expansion of the regular season to 17 or 18 games, eliminating two preseason contests. That issue has been discussed with the union.

Goodell also insisted that team owners will continue to address concerns over pensions for retired players.

"Owners are committed to it," he said. "They have demonstrated that."

Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press [/spoiler]

So how do you think this is going to affect the Ravens next year?

[PuRock]

Well it means the free agent market will be pretty slim. Because Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones will make it rain.

I'm not saying other teams and us will not spend more. But probably not to the exuberant level that those two guys will.

Think how much Jerry Jones would love to have Anquan Boldin & Brandon Marshall in Cowboys jerseys. Leaving Roy Williams as their WR3.

[die_hard_raven]

scarey thought! you're right about Jerry Jones. I love him passion to win even though I despise his team. He'd brake the bank to bring another title to Dallas. Wish all owners shares his passion about winning

[ravenrooter]

I think Steve Bisciotti is one of the best owners in the league (in all pro sports for that matter) and we would continue to have a very competitive football team. I dont think he would have any problems getting players paid, and spending the big bucks on the guys we need to win. Bisciotti is just low-key compared to some of the other owners out there, where he doesn't flaunt his money with gigantic contracts like Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder. With all that being said, I think that if the season does go cap-free, the Ravens will be just fine; Bisciotti's got the money to get the job done.

[PuRock]

[quote name='die_hard_raven' date='04 September 2009 - 11:06 AM' timestamp='1252076785' post='229113']
scarey thought! you're right about Jerry Jones. I love him passion to win even though I despise his team. He'd brake the bank to bring another title to Dallas. Wish all owners shares his passion about winning
[/quote]

I agreed with you up to the point "Wish all owners share his passion". I wish all owners didn't. The best owners are the ones that hire great football minds as GMs. Then they sit back and let the football people do their thing. Jones has the passion sure, but he gets involved way to much. And money does not buy championships.

I love Steve B. We'll win a Superbowl before Jerry Jones or Snyder. You have owners like the Rooney family and Kraft. Who sit back and let the football guys do their thing. And they all have rings to show for it.

If a owner is really passionate, they will create a special football culture within their organization. A culture which coaches and players buy into, and step up their play. We've done that here in Baltimore. Whereas the Cowboys and Redskins have failed. Coaches are scared of being fired, and players have no chemistry.

[YYZ66]

I figured this was gonna happen.
So I guess football is going to end up like baseball? The top 5 teams spend more than the rest of the league combined. As mentioned, Hacksaw Snyder and Jerry "scoreboard" Jones will throw millions upon millions at players to bring them in. Don't forget Al Davis, of course he'll bring in guys past their prime and over pay them.

And it looks like a lock out in 2011.

[Eso]

I see your showing off that spoiler thing lol. Anyways, In baseball, the teams that have the most problems are teams that do not sell out, as they have less money. Football, having only 16 games typically sells out, so all teams are on the same level financially (varying due to ticket prices, amount of seats, gear sold...) This should even the odds more than it has in baseball, unless the salary cap, or lack there of, ruins the game for a lot of people, and sellouts are rare in the Ravens orginization as it is with the O's. BUT, I don't think that will happen, and WE should be good. Poor Lions though.

[Purple Punishment]

football will be no fun to watch. i think this will ruin the game, look at the MLB

[mhead66]

Today's USA Today had a list of MLB team payrolls. The 6 division leaders are all in the top 9 in payroll. This is why MLB sucks, and is dying.

Goodell, [b]please[/b] don't let the NFL turn into that.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='PuRock' date='04 September 2009 - 09:33 AM' timestamp='1252071221' post='229101']
Well it means the free agent market will be pretty slim. Because Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones will make it rain.

I'm not saying other teams and us will not spend more. But probably not to the exuberant level that those two guys will.

Think how much Jerry Jones would love to have Anquan Boldin & Brandon Marshall in Cowboys jerseys. Leaving Roy Williams as their WR3.
[/quote]

That would be for only one year, right? How would they get back under the cap if they throw tens of millions of dollars at guys they normally would not have been able to afford?

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='mhead66' date='04 September 2009 - 01:33 PM' timestamp='1252085634' post='229170']
Today's USA Today had a list of MLB team payrolls. The 6 division leaders are all in the top 9 in payroll. This is why MLB sucks, and is dying.

Goodell, [b]please[/b] don't let the NFL turn into that.
[/quote]

Absolutely, 100% correct on this! The NFL needs to keep the Salary Cap or I say the Owners lock out the players until they come to terms on a new deal.

[PuRock]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' date='04 September 2009 - 01:41 PM' timestamp='1252086088' post='229178']
That would be for only one year, right? How would they get back under the cap if they throw tens of millions of dollars at guys they normally would not have been able to afford?
[/quote]

A lof of one year mega-contracts for mega players?

[Yatagarasu]

I think the contracts will be front-loaded on the contract year and then go back to normal in the salary cap years.

For Example:

Let's say a player signs a contract with a big money team. I say that in the 2010 uncapped year, the money will be like 20 million dollars for that year. After that, the annual contract is going to be 8 million dollars. So I just see it as a huge signing bonus for that year.

I hope Steve B. and the Wizard of Oz lock all the players we need before the uncapped year and bring some really valuable players in.

[Yatagarasu]

I have a feeling Dan Snyder is going to make it rain on either Julius Peppers, Shawn Merriman, Aaron Kampman, Vince Wilfork or the combination of the two or three.

The 2010 class of free agents are stacked on the D-line and Linebacker Corps.

See what money can buy in 2010, one scary looking Defensive Front.

[SackinU]

The lack of a cap is not a free for all, the Free Agency Rules change as well, and there are several rulesthat keep things from getting out of hand... uncapped does not mean unhinged...

[ROH522155]

PLEASE NO LOCKOUT!!

i couldnt handle a NFL lockout i'd cry from the end of the '10 season until the beginning of the '12 season