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[Ravensfanspls]

We are 9 point underdogs thats unbelievable I hate seeing that stuff alot of people are going be getting money on this one cause if there smart they will say the spread wont happen and it wont

[Raven07]

***chuckles at the thought***** here we go again with the Analysts trying to say whos gonna win, its just a guess and when both Teams hit the Field come Monday Night, all those Numbers...all those Stats, well you can just throw them out the window, cuz the players who are actually playing on the field. Dont give a dang about them lol we just want the win. whether it be by 1 point or a few TD's, whatever the score, we just want a win in the win column. thats it.

[JonM229]

I've always thought the Ravens play better when we're the underdog. I get too nervous when people start saying how great we are...it's our kiss of death.

[BrownsFan]

You're going to Pittsburgh on a Monday night with an offense that overall has lacked the ability to put up points.. while Pittsburgh has given up 91 points all year. Being a 9 point underdog really isn't surprising in that case.

However with that being said I still think Baltimore has a good chance to steal this one from Pittsburgh. I'm still rooting for my 3-3 tie however. =]

[ironcitymark]

***chuckles at the thought***** here we go again with the Analysts trying to say whos gonna win, its just a guess and when both Teams hit the Field come Monday Night, all those Numbers...all those Stats, well you can just throw them out the window, cuz the players who are actually playing on the field. Dont give a dang about them lol we just want the win. whether it be by 1 point or a few TD's, whatever the score, we just want a win in the win column. thats it.

I just can't understand how you guys are thinking. Go back on your boards and look at what yinz were saying about your team the past couple of weeks. Nothing good, thats for sure. Now all of a sudden, since your playing a team you don't like, yinz are acting like you've had this great season so far. The point is even you all know your not that good this year! Sure , bring out all your stats, the bottom line is W-L. You know darn well vegas is pretty damn acurate when it comes to lines, a 9 point spread is no fluke. It's just the truth, quit pulling wool over your eyes. Sure yinz can win, but all the FACTS say, NOT!

[Raven07]

nothing good????? i for sure havent critisied Our Team. Because thats not what a true fan of your favorite Team does, in fact if you look back into most posts, I am one that supports Our Ravens with whatever they do. and if you saw, i tell people to Not "bash our team because thats not what a true fan does" The Dang stats dont mean a dang thing when a team is out there playing. the Numbers dont really matter to them what so ever. all that matter to them is putting a W in the Win Column, whether it be by a single point OR a wide margin or a field goal, who knows, all that matters is the W in the win coulmn, say what you want, but thats the bottomline.

[Slick]

I just can't understand how you guys are thinking. Go back on your boards and look at what yinz were saying about your team the past couple of weeks. Nothing good, thats for sure. Now all of a sudden, since your playing a team you don't like, yinz are acting like you've had this great season so far. The point is even you all know your not that good this year! Sure , bring out all your stats, the bottom line is W-L. You know darn well vegas is pretty damn acurate when it comes to lines, a 9 point spread is no fluke. It's just the truth, quit pulling wool over your eyes. Sure yinz can win, but all the FACTS say, NOT!

not that good? HAHAHAHA

wow excuse me, but you really must not be paying attention. our team ACROSS THE BOARD has been dotted by many key injuries. Still, despite injuries to Pryce, Rolle, McNair, Terry, Flynn, Ogden, etc we've come away with a 4-3 record that could have been 6-1 if we were fully healthy. To have that many backups playing extended time while still maintaining a position to take the division is a sign of a pretty damn good team to me. Nobody's perfect but the Ravens aren't to be dismissed as pretenders. You'll see what I mean come monday night when your precious lil Steelers are humiliated in their own field for the what, 6th straight time? you can't just come in here and tell us what we think about our team, because in our minds we will never be worse than the Squeelers

[ironcitymark]

nothing good????? i for sure havent critisied Our Team. Because thats not what a true fan of your favorite Team does, in fact if you look back into most posts, I am one that supports Our Ravens with whatever they do. and if you saw, i tell people to Not "bash our team because thats not what a true fan does" The Dang stats dont mean a dang thing when a team is out there playing. the Numbers dont really matter to them what so ever. all that matter to them is putting a W in the Win Column, whether it be by a single point OR a wide margin or a field goal, who knows, all that matters is the W in the win coulmn, say what you want, but thats the bottomline.

You know theres alot of negativity on the boards, I'm not saying you personally, but a majority. your right a true fan won't bash, but they should also be realistic. I've taken nothing away from yinz for the poundings from last year. I was surprized though cause no matter the strength of either team, both always brought there A game. Seemed like every year was a split. Last year really was the first year one of them actually totaly dominated. Steelers are better this year, obviouly, but if history is an indicator, it's anyones ball game.

[Slick]

You know theres alot of negativity on the boards, I'm not saying you personally, but a majority. your right a true fan won't bash, but they should also be realistic. I've taken nothing away from yinz for the poundings from last year. I was surprized though cause no matter the strength of either team, both always brought there A game. Seemed like every year was a split. Last year really was the first year one of them actually totaly dominated. Steelers are better this year, obviouly, but if history is an indicator, it's anyones ball game.

the negativity stems from the lack of production due to a injury-hampered team. i dont think that monday's game will be dominated by either team and i don't expect our offense to come together all at once after this bye. The Steelers can't be "obviously" better than the Ravens if the Ravens have never once this entire year been 100%. If all of our starters do return this game, i'm not saying we'll dominate, but i think it will give us enough of an edge to pull off another win against your team, on a day to honor the Steelers rich history no less.

[TIMEsteelersfan]

Every team suffers through injuries... I hate to hear players/coaches/fans use them as an excuse for poor play. I think the Ravens have played as well as any team would have with the injuries they've had. Even at full strength I look at your offensive roster I'm not impressed. When I look at the matchups for Mondays game I see a big edge to the Steelers, here's my breakdown...

Offense? Steelers - No Comparison. Better QB, RB's, WR, TE's, O-Line... Just better across the board.

Defense? Steelers - Don't freak out, your "D" is still stout but ours is a little better.

Special Teams? Push, maybe a slight edge to Baltimore.

Coaching? Remains to be seen.

IMO we have the edge on both sides of the ball, and we're playing at home. It will take Baltimores best game of the year just to keep this one close, and I think they'll bring it as best they can. It just won't be enough when the final gun sounds.

Baltimore 16

Pittsburgh 26

[Mista T]

Every team suffers through injuries... I hate to hear players/coaches/fans use them as an excuse for poor play. I think the Ravens have played as well as any team would have with the injuries they've had. Even at full strength I look at your offensive roster I'm not impressed. When I look at the matchups for Mondays game I see a big edge to the Steelers, here's my breakdown...

Offense? Steelers - No Comparison. Better QB, RB's, WR, TE's, O-Line... Just better across the board.

Defense? Steelers - Don't freak out, your "D" is still stout but ours is a little better.

Special Teams? Push, maybe a slight edge to Baltimore.

Coaching? Remains to be seen.

IMO we have the edge on both sides of the ball, and we're playing at home. It will take Baltimores best game of the year just to keep this one close, and I think they'll bring it as best they can. It just won't be enough when the final gun sounds.

Baltimore 16

Pittsburgh 26

Let's see: Offense - "No comparison", and Defense = "stout", but yours is better. So if the Steelers are so much better than the Ravens, explain the scores of the last two games, with essentially the same core personnel on both teams: 19-20 in 2005, and 31-7 in 2006.

[berad]

Every team suffers through injuries... I hate to hear players/coaches/fans use them as an excuse for poor play. I think the Ravens have played as well as any team would have with the injuries they've had. Even at full strength I look at your offensive roster I'm not impressed. When I look at the matchups for Mondays game I see a big edge to the Steelers, here's my breakdown...

Offense? Steelers - No Comparison. Better QB, RB's, WR, TE's, O-Line... Just better across the board.

Defense? Steelers - Don't freak out, your "D" is still stout but ours is a little better.

Special Teams? Push, maybe a slight edge to Baltimore.

Coaching? Remains to be seen.

IMO we have the edge on both sides of the ball, and we're playing at home. It will take Baltimores best game of the year just to keep this one close, and I think they'll bring it as best they can. It just won't be enough when the final gun sounds.

Baltimore 16

Pittsburgh 26

Our RBs, WRs, and TEs are comparable

Our TEs are probably better

plus, our QB has been injured since game 1, so you don't really know what he's capable of.

On another note, our D didn't give up 31 to anyone... especially the Denver Broncos (who are 27th in the league in points per game)

[Ravens549]

All I want to know is what the heck a 'yinz' is?

[berad]

All I want to know is what the heck a 'yinz' is?

LMAO

I was wondering that exact same thing

[berad]

Steelers fans, don't forget where "yinz" were last year.

[Ravens549]

Yeah berad, from both our signature photos- I'd say Ben was on 'yinz' a ss.

[TIMEsteelersfan]

1. Explain the scores of the last 2 games??? Who cares??? We're a very different team than we were last year and so are the Ravens... We're just swinging in opposite directions. You sound like an educated guy and I'm sure you can see that. I'm hearing an aweful lot of talk about last year so I thought I'd remind you guys... last year is over.

2. I've been watching McNair his entire career and I know exactly what he's capable of. He's been a walking injury for years now, and if you're counting on him being healthy you're making a big mistake.

3. You could make a case that the RB's and WR's are about even(though I strongly disagree), but TE's, I just don't see it. I'll take Miller, Speath and Tuman anyday over Heap, Wilcox and Sypniewski.

Pit TE's have 29 rec. for 370yds. and 8 TD's

Bal Te's have 38 rec. for 326yds. and 2 TD's

Right now our TE's are far more productive and as a result, a much bigger threat IMO.

4. Denver hanging 31 on us? Sure, it happened. The defense gave up 24 of those(one TD was a fumble return by Denver's "D") points which is still too many for me, however, One is an accident, two is a coincidence, three is a trend. I'm not worried about our "D" at all. Bad games happen every now and again.

5. The three teams you guys lost to are a combined 7-15, so if I was a Ravens fan I'd be pretty worried.

Don't get me wrong guys... I'm not here to be a troll I'm just trying to call it like I see it.

[Silverback]

Depth is the sign of a good ball team. You should be able to beat the stains and bungals with some starters out if you are looking to be a playoff contender. No one can bank on no injuries for a season. So far the steelers have done well dealing with the injuries, and I'm basing that off the performance against Seattle.

[berad]

3. You could make a case that the RB's and WR's are about even(though I strongly disagree), but TE's, I just don't see it. I'll take Miller, Speath and Tuman anyday over Heap, Wilcox and Sypniewski.

Pit TE's have 29 rec. for 370yds. and 8 TD's

Bal Te's have 38 rec. for 326yds. and 2 TD's

Right now our TE's are far more productive and as a result, a much bigger threat IMO.

Right now, our 1st and 2nd string TEs have hurt the majority of the season

Now Heap's coming back from the bye and he's ready to go.

Did you guys forget about him?

2 time ProBowler

and a registered Steeler beater

In his last 10 games against the Steelers:

46 receptions, 489 yds, 2 TDs

and thats even with Joey Porter being gay and cheap shotting him

[berad]

Depth is the sign of a good ball team. You should be able to beat the stains and bungals with some starters out if you are looking to be a playoff contender. No one can bank on no injuries for a season. So far the steelers have done well dealing with the injuries, and I'm basing that off the performance against Seattle.

"some" starters doesn't even describe it.

[TIMEsteelersfan]

Right now, our 1st and 2nd string TEs have hurt the majority of the season

Now Heap's coming back from the bye and he's ready to go.

Did you guys forget about him?

2 time ProBowler

and a registered Steeler beater

In his last 10 games against the Steelers:

46 receptions, 489 yds, 2 TDs

and thats even with Joey Porter being gay and cheap shotting him

I haven't forgotten about him at all... he's a great player no doubt. I'm saying that as a whole, our 3 TE's vs. yours we have the better group. What you're telling me though is that during Heaps last 10 games against the Steelers he is getting:

4.6 rec. per game

48.9 yds. per game

and a TD once every 5 games

Hardly setting the world on fire wouldn't you agree?

As far as Joey is concerned... that cheap shot on Heap even ticked me off. Totally uncalled for and unprofessional. Personally I love Todd Heap, the guys keeps his mouth shut and does nothing but produce.

[berad]

I haven't forgotten about him at all... he's a great player no doubt. I'm saying that as a whole, our 3 TE's vs. yours we have the better group. What you're telling me though is that during Heaps last 10 games against the Steelers he is getting:

4.6 rec. per game

48.9 yds. per game

and a TD once every 5 games

Hardly setting the world on fire wouldn't you agree?

As far as Joey is concerned... that cheap shot on Heap even ticked me off. Totally uncalled for and unprofessional. Personally I love Todd Heap, the guys keeps his mouth shut and does nothing but produce.

for a TE, he is

if he played all 16 games in a season against the Steelers, they'd look like this

74 recpts, 782 yds, and 3TDs

pretty good

[TIMEsteelersfan]

for a TE, he is

if he played all 16 games in a season against the Steelers, they'd look like this

74 recpts, 782 yds, and 3TDs

pretty good

Since you projected his numbers against us over 16 games I thought I'd look at his career numbers. He's played 4 complete seasons in his career and during those years here's his average numbers...

68 rec. 788 yards, 5.5 TD's

As you can see he's not a Steeler beater. When he plays us we keep him out of the endzone despite his average receptions and yardage... which by the way are right in line with his averages to begin with. The last line of your post says it all... "Pretty Good". We went from "Steeler Beater" to "Pretty Good". That's a big difference to me.

His numbers are worse against the steelers than his career averages during full seasons.

[Raven07]

a little nice research ya got there!