Crabtree Willing To Re-Enter Draft!

[ravensfan160]

Per Profootballtalk that is exactly what is going to happen. I knew he wanted to get paid top 3 money even though he was drafted 10th overall but wow. To sit out an entire year in the hopes you'll get drafted higher next season is a huge gamble. If he didn't have a bad reputation before he certainly will now.



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/06/source-parker-tells-niners-that-crabtree-will-re-enter-draft/

[WinnipegRaven]

Its not a guarantee that he WILL sit... He is threatening to do so in the hopes of getting his big payday. His agent promised he would go in the top 5 so he's doing what he can to retain Crabtree as a client.

"Contract talks between unsigned first-round pick Michael Crabtree and the 49ers are reportedly going so poorly that Crabtree has threatened to sit out this season and reenter the NFL Draft in 2010.
Agent Eugene Parker (for whom holdouts are nothing new) hasn't even made a proposal, but is said to be seeking a deal that would pay Crabtree like a top three-to-five pick. Profootballtalk.com previously suggested that Parker promised Crabtree he'd go in the top three before April's draft. Now, in an effort to keep Crabtree as a client, Parker is pulling out all the stops."

[J-man]

This is interesting. The 49ers are getting screwed.

[ravensfan160]

Apparently Parker is a rookie agent too. They both seem really greedy to me. Personally, I hope San Francisco calls his bluff. They aren't making the playoffs even with Crabtree.

[Reddawn36]

Can someone please just go smack this moron over the back of the head.... hell do it to any rookie that thinks they deserve to make a Semi full of money.... some vet seriously needs to have a chat with the rooks about how nobody owes them anything, if anything the rooks owe the teams just about everything.... until they are proven they shouldn't be making that kind of money....

Plus he was selected in the top 10.... he's a greedy S.O.B.... I honestly hope that he does go reenter the draft, and then I hope to god that he doesn't get selected until the second round-third round.... cause then he'd be begging for that top 10 money.... poor niners, wasted a pick on one of those T.O. attitude type WR's (again)

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='Reddawn36' date='06 August 2009 - 12:35 PM' timestamp='1249576556' post='215794']
Can someone please just go smack this moron over the back of the head.... hell do it to any rookie that thinks they deserve to make a Semi full of money.... some vet seriously needs to have a chat with the rooks about how nobody owes them anything, if anything the rooks owe the teams just about everything.... until they are proven they shouldn't be making that kind of money....

Plus he was selected in the top 10.... he's a greedy S.O.B.... I honestly hope that he does go reenter the draft, and then I hope to god that he doesn't get selected until the second round-third round.... cause then he'd be begging for that top 10 money.... poor niners, wasted a pick on one of those T.O. attitude type WR's (again)
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Tell me about it. If I remember correctly he had a reputation as a prima donna leading up to the draft. I remember the commentators talking about it. Teams (especially in this economy) are starting to clamp down on their "me first" receivers. Just the threat of doing this will stay with Crabtree for much of his career if he doesn't become the next Jerry Rice.

[berad]

This story is probably overblown.. But I wonder, what would happen to the 49ers if he did re-enter in 2010, would they get another 1st rounder or something?

[FerrariFan87]

It is because of people like Crabtree why the NFL desperately needs a Rookie wage-scale a la the NBA... this is disgusting, and I was a big Crabtree fan too; not anymore.

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' date='06 August 2009 - 12:57 PM' timestamp='1249577869' post='215807']
It is because of people like Crabtree why the NFL desperately needs a Rookie wage-scale a la the NBA... this is disgusting, and I was a big Crabtree fan too; not anymore.
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i never liked him... nor stafford, (its funny when stafford was asked if he deserved his contract he said yeah.....) whats going through these rookies heads

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Reddawn36' date='06 August 2009 - 01:19 PM' timestamp='1249579160' post='215816']
i never liked him... nor stafford, (its funny when stafford was asked if he deserved his contract he said yeah.....) whats going through these rookies heads
[/quote]
That's funny, the Niners didn't like Stafford either. Looks like they still made a bad choice.

[Reddawn36]

[quote name='darklight1216' date='06 August 2009 - 01:29 PM' timestamp='1249579740' post='215821']
That's funny, the Niners didn't like Stafford either. Looks like they still made a bad choice.
[/quote]

well, you know what they say, if something is too good to be true than it usually is.... in this case, crabtree falling to them at #10 was


its also pretty funny that he can demand a bigger contract when he is coming off an injury... before even playing a Down

[ravensfan160]

Even though DHB has gotten off to a bad start in Oakland it isn't as bad as what the 49ers are going through with Crabtree. Wouldn't it be funny if this turns out to be another situation like when Houston took Mario Williams instead of Bush? They got slammed for it but now it was clearly the way to go.

[KentuckyRaven]

[quote name='berad' date='06 August 2009 - 12:49 PM' timestamp='1249577360' post='215802']
This story is probably overblown.. But I wonder, what would happen to the 49ers if he did re-enter in 2010, would they get another 1st rounder or something?
[/quote]
I'm a bit curious on what would happen as well. I feel this story is probably exaggerated a bit, but has any high draft pick re-entered a draft like this before?

[WinnipegRaven]

Unsigned first-round pick Michael Crabtree's cousin and adviser, David Wells, confirmed Profootballtalk.com's report that Crabtree is prepared to sit out all of 2009 if the 49ers don't meet his contract demands.
It was under different circumstances, but this idea worked out terribly for Mike Williams in 2004-05. "We are prepared to do it," Wells said. "Michael just wants fair-market value. They took him with the 10th pick and you have (No. 7 pick) Darrius Heyward-Bey getting $38 million? This week is crucial."

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='WinnipegRaven' date='06 August 2009 - 02:01 PM' timestamp='1249581666' post='215846']
Unsigned first-round pick Michael Crabtree's cousin and adviser, David Wells, confirmed Profootballtalk.com's report that Crabtree is prepared to sit out all of 2009 if the 49ers don't meet his contract demands.
It was under different circumstances, but this idea worked out terribly for Mike Williams in 2004-05. "We are prepared to do it," Wells said. "Michael just wants fair-market value. They took him with the 10th pick and you have (No. 7 pick) Darrius Heyward-Bey getting $38 million? This week is crucial."
[/quote]

What exactly is fair market value for a guy who is injury prone, comes from a pass-happy system, and hasn't yet played a down in the NFL? Hmmm...

[J-man]

Forget Boldin. Forget Marshall. We need Crabtree, lol.

[jfc13]

This is ridiculous.

What is the point of a draft if the players can do this or pull an Elway? Teams shouldn't have to waste their picks on jerks that aren't willing to play for whatever team picks them. I can understand that you would have preferred to play somewhere else, but this is a business, not a recreation team where you and your buddies all play together. [Crabtree's issue may not be [i]where[/i] he is playing, but this is a related issue...and I'm on a roll here...]

And there should be a set price for rookies based on where they were picked in the draft. After the first year, they can make more if they earned it.

There might be more behind this and I think he's just bluffing, so the Niners should call his bluff. If he doesn't sign, the league should give the Niners some kind of compensatory pick next year and Crabtree should not be ALLOWED to be picked in the first round - it should be a league rule.

Same thing should have happened to Elway. He should have had to sit a year and be redrafted the next year and have to wait until the second round. If he got drafted by another team he didn't want to play for, wait another year and drop down to third round.

[mhead66]

[quote name='jfc13' date='06 August 2009 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1249588260' post='215882']
This is ridiculous.

What is the point of a draft if the players can do this or pull an Elway? [b]Teams shouldn't have to waste their picks on jerks that aren't willing to play for whatever team picks them.[/b] I can understand that you would have preferred to play somewhere else, but this is a business, not a recreation team where you and your buddies all play together. [Crabtree's issue may not be [i]where[/i] he is playing, but this is a related issue...and I'm on a roll here...]

And there should be a set price for rookies based on where they were picked in the draft. After the first year, they can make more if they earned it.

There might be more behind this and I think he's just bluffing, so the Niners should call his bluff. If he doesn't sign, the league should give the Niners some kind of compensatory pick next year and Crabtree should not be ALLOWED to be picked in the first round - it should be a league rule.

Same thing should have happened to Elway. He should have had to sit a year and be redrafted the next year and have to wait until the second round. If he got drafted by another team he didn't want to play for, wait another year and drop down to third round.
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I think this is why Crabtree fell - he's arrogant, to lay demands that he should be paid top-5 money, because HE thinks he's a top-5 talent. It's the TO syndrome - talent, but too much of a headache - how many teams that badly need a receiver of T.O.'s talent, but don't want the grief that goes with it?

Crabtree, at first glance, seems similar.

[ravensfan160]

Didn't this happen to the Orioles? Another reason the NFL is soooo much better than MLB.

[JO_75]

Cry me and everyone else a river Crabtree. Crabtree pulling this situation is the reason why everyone wants a cap for rookies. What gets me is that he thinks by re-entering the draft he will be picked higher. Let's see, he goes back into the draft, whoever has the # 1 pick next season, will not be picking a WR they will be picking a QB or a top tackle. # 2 pick... they will take the QB or Tackle the # 1 pick didn't take. # 3 may need a Reciever but here is the conversation: "Do we need a reciever? Yes. Let's go for Crabtree and show the 49ers made a mistake." Team GM: "NO! He was drafted at # 10 and wanted top 5 money, if we draft him here he may hold out for as much the # 1 player gets and pull the same scenario. No thank you let him slip and fall."

From there..... he will fall all the way to the bottom of the 1st or not drafted at all. Oh to make things worse, what happens if there is a cap next season, he is going to be FORCED to take whatever money he gets when he gets picked.

[Beninato]

This thread title is incredibly misleading. [size="5"][b]Crabtree IS NOT skipping the season and re-entering the draft! His agent came out and said they are WILLING TO not that they ARE.[/b][/size]

Some of your reading comprehension is atrocious and embarrassing.

As for Crabtree, I don't want him within 10 feet on the Ravens, we are a first class organization, this kid is a money hungry trouble maker who puts cash first. He can go play with the Bungles.

[lgcs27288]

[quote name='JO_75' date='06 August 2009 - 04:30 PM' timestamp='1249590647' post='215899']
Cry me and everyone else a river Crabtree. Crabtree pulling this situation is the reason why everyone wants a cap for rookies. What gets me is that he thinks by re-entering the draft he will be picked higher. Let's see, he goes back into the draft, whoever has the # 1 pick next season, will not be picking a WR they will be picking a QB or a top tackle. # 2 pick... they will take the QB or Tackle the # 1 pick didn't take. # 3 may need a Reciever but here is the conversation: "Do we need a reciever? Yes. Let's go for Crabtree and show the 49ers made a mistake." Team GM: "NO! He was drafted at # 10 and wanted top 5 money, if we draft him here he may hold out for as much the # 1 player gets and pull the same scenario. No thank you let him slip and fall."

From there..... he will fall all the way to the bottom of the 1st or not drafted at all. Oh to make things worse, what happens if there is a cap next season, he is going to be FORCED to take whatever money he gets when he gets picked.
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I agree until he falls to the Raiders, then Al Davis will pick him up and pay that ridiculous money

And if the Raiders season goes as I predict it will, they will be drafting around the 1-5 slots.

[WinnipegRaven]

Both the 49ers and the player rep for Michael Crabtree are denying that the No. 10 overall pick has threatened to sit out the season and re-enter the draft in 2010.
Despite confirmation from Crabtree's cousins and adviser, David Wells, agent Eugene Parker denies saying a word to anyone about a potential re-entry. According to AOL FanHouse, the 49ers "have no idea" what Wells is talking about. The ill-advised negotiating ploy has blown up in the Crabtree team's face. It's back to the drawing board.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=147345&id=5135

[dethdude420]

we will have to see what happens, but do you really think once football is gonna get played that he will just sit at home?

[Beninato]

[quote name='WinnipegRaven' date='06 August 2009 - 05:15 PM' timestamp='1249593333' post='215926']
Both the 49ers and the player rep for Michael Crabtree are denying that the No. 10 overall pick has threatened to sit out the season and re-enter the draft in 2010.
Despite confirmation from Crabtree's cousins and adviser, David Wells, agent Eugene Parker denies saying a word to anyone about a potential re-entry. According to AOL FanHouse, the 49ers "have no idea" what Wells is talking about. The ill-advised negotiating ploy has blown up in the Crabtree team's face. It's back to the drawing board.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=147345&id=5135
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More evidence as to why the thread title should be changed.

[jfc13]

[quote name='Beninato' date='06 August 2009 - 04:44 PM' timestamp='1249591474' post='215904']
This thread title is incredibly misleading. Crabtree IS NOT skipping the season and re-entering the draft! His agent came out and said they are WILLING TO not that they ARE.

Some of your reading comprehension is atrocious and embarrassing.

As for Crabtree, I don't want him within 10 feet on the Ravens, we are a first class organization, this kid is a money hungry trouble maker who puts cash first. He can go play with the Bungles.
[/quote]
Perhaps the lack of reading comprehension skills is your problem. I reread the posts and everyone seems to be saying that "he is threatening to..." and "if he does this..." and talking about calling his bluff - meaning that they don't think he'll do it. Other than the thread title, which could just have been sensationalism to attract attention, I don't see where anyone said definitively that Crabtree will reenter the draft.

[quote name='Beninato' date='06 August 2009 - 05:18 PM' timestamp='1249593505' post='215931']
More evidence as to why the thread title should be changed.
[/quote]
Now, this, I agree with. And that we don't want him here.

[theFRANCHISE]

Negotiating ploy or not, Crabtree would be stupid to allow his agent or anyone else to convince him to sit out this season. Bo Jackson was drafted by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the 1st round but chose not to sign his contract because he'd rather play baseball than play for the hapless Bucs. Jackson eventually re-entered the draft, only to be selected by the Raiders all the way in the 7th round. Granted, Jackson was still given a salary comparable to a starting RB and was allowed to play part-time while the baseball season was in progress (a tactic by Al Davis to convince him to sign), but such negotiating ploys wouldn't work in Crabtree's favor in this day and age.

Crabtree is risking much more than a paycheck by pursuing an amount larger than what's already a king's ransom. He's risking being behind the curve in his transition into the NFL, and he's risking his reputation before he even steps foot into the locker room. Teammates will resent him regardless of where he signs and that can destory team chemistry before it's even formed. Even worse for his own career, he's missing out on time to develop a rapport with his QB, and he isn't able to get a read on all of the QBs in the event that the starter goes down.

[Beninato]

[quote name='jfc13' date='06 August 2009 - 05:26 PM' timestamp='1249593969' post='215939']
Perhaps the lack of reading comprehension skills is your problem. I reread the posts and everyone seems to be saying that "he is threatening to..." and "if he does this..." and talking about calling his bluff - meaning that they don't think he'll do it. Other than the thread title, which could just have been sensationalism to attract attention, I don't see where anyone said definitively that Crabtree will reenter the draft.
[/quote]

Another person with embarrassing reading comprehension skills. I don't care about the other posts in this thread, my post was CLEARLY directed at the thread title. The "some of your" was directed to everyone in general who read the article and took out of it that Crabtree was 100% re-entering the NFL draft.

Thank you.

[jfc13]

What would "Some of your reading comprehension..." refer to other than the posts in this thread? You can't change the meaning in retrospect and talk about the "general public" that didn't respond. How do you know what they are thinking or assuming? You're welcome.

Moving on...

[neepo13]

He's probably trying to get enough money to pay off the debt he's picked up since he decided to get blinged out BEFORE making money.