Mcnair Needs To Rest

[1st and ten]

This was the perfect game to let McNair rest his injury it was all about defense and boller could have moved and completed as many passes as McNair and may be even scored a touchdown but i dont know if billick wants that !

[Sam]

This was the perfect game to let McNair rest his injury it was all about defense and boller could have moved and completed as many passes as McNair and may be even scored a touchdown but i dont know if billick wants that !

Maybe instead of McNair resting he should be sitting out & be our #2 QB.

[rockonravens]

Maybe instead of McNair resting he should be sitting out & be our #2 QB.

Those of you who feel that it's time for Boller.....SAY IT LOUD!!!

Wow, this was another high school game for the OFFENSE. This was really sad.

Oh, but we won!! Not pretty. Oh though, in Billick's terms, A Win is a Win.

There were some really good plays......we'll leave it at that!!

GO RAVENS

[Sam]

Those of you who feel that it's time for Boller.....SAY IT LOUD!!!

Wow, this was another high school game for the OFFENSE. This was really sad.

Oh, but we won!! Not pretty. Oh though, in Billick's terms, A Win is a Win.

There were some really good plays......we'll leave it at that!!

GO RAVENS

IT's BOLLER TIME!!!

[terpsfan3]

Those of you who feel that it's time for Boller.....SAY IT LOUD!!!

You know I never realized how much I miss Boller! I don't know if its sad to say or not. At least Billick has the trust in Boller to make the long passes! The two, three yard flips on 2nd and 10 are killing me!

[Raven07]

lol last year, everyone was dreading whenever Boller came out onto the field...now they all want him in the game...keep in mind that we were moving the ball down the field efficiently both on hte ground and through the air....what we need to do is take a little more shots down the field....i dont want to hear people say "oh McNair is old, he's done, he's through...washed up"....no thats not that case.....Favre is 38 and is completing passes all over the place and taking those shots down field, i feel like If and WHEN we take more of those shots down the field, we'll be alright....McNair did throw it Deep 2-3 times and Completed at least 1 of those passes (forget which one at the moment) but i say...if we can do that more often, it'll throw the Defense even more so off balance and cause them to think that they HAVE to defend against not only the pass but the run also......i feel as though Billick did a good job today in the fact that he did in fact stay with the game plan and Run the ball with McGahee and McGahee was getting those yards.....we were effective both through the air and on the ground...we just couldnt convert inside the red-zone....we need to practice/work on our Red-Zone offense and passing the ball effectively to open receivers that will eventually score the TD.....that should be ONE of the main focal points in practice this week....ALL week...and for many many weeks to come until we are finally able to do so effectively and efficiently

[Drkraven]

I really think Boller should start for the next two weeks, both games are winnable and let McNair get good and healthy for the "stretch" of divisional game through most of Nov and the beginning of Dec.

[Ravnet]

You know I never realized how much I miss Boller! I don't know if its sad to say or not. At least Billick has the trust in Boller to make the long passes! The two, three yard flips on 2nd and 10 are killing me!

The two, three yard flips on 3rd and 10 are worse.

[Raven07]

yea i agree, that would be a good thing to do but another way we could do is, run the ball like we used to (and like we did today)....take alot fo the pressure off McNair and force the defense to focus on the running attack then go up top for the passing yards....that'll (as i said before) negate the defense into forcing them trying to cover both the run and pass....which should (if everything went to plan) open up for either the run or the pass to pick up big yardage....and by taking that pressure off McNair, ultimately results in a healthier McNair who is more protected and more "refreshed" than the other McNair who would be tired, sacked, overthrowing passes, throwing INT's....all that stuff

[buckeyewayne]

This was the perfect game to let McNair rest his injury it was all about defense and boller could have moved and completed as many passes as McNair and may be even scored a touchdown but i dont know if billick wants that !

Billick doesn't care whether they win or not, he still gets his fat pay check either way.

He can just keep BS'ing the media and tell them what they want to hear. I think it

is time for Mr. Steve to take ole Brian out to the woodshed for another talk about

"who's yo daddy?" LIke you know, shape it up or ship it out of here!"

[buckeyewayne]

I really think Boller should start for the next two weeks, both games are winnable and let McNair get good and healthy for the "stretch" of divisional game through most of Nov and the beginning of Dec.

I agree with you 100%, the next two games are games that we SHOULD win and

it would be 2 games Boller could do well in, and maybe put some good points

on the board which would bolster his confidence. The kid has shown a lot of

poise the couple of times he has played this year. A 50% healthy McNair is no

good to anyone and is a detriment to the team, but you know Billick will not

change because he is too big of a hard head to do that and he listens to the

players way too much. Unfortunately as long as McNair doesn't have to taken

to the field in a wheel chair, he will play. The 2nd half of the season, we will

get trashed, you can take that to the bank....... I predict 8 and 8 if we're lucky!!!

[Raven07]

yea the next 2 games we should win, its like McMair said a few weeks ago "a healthy kyle Boller is ALOT better than a injured Steve McNair".....but lets not forget if it wasnt for Steve coming here, and mentoring kyle and showing him the proper way to throw the ball, timing, and making smart decision with the football, we all would still be Booing Boller and dreading everytime we would come out onto the field.....so i think its a good thing that McNair is here...and lets not forget about Steve Mentoring Troy.....which will have Huge pay offs in the long run

[tweety]

IT's BOLLER TIME!!!

That's what the Bears said to Griese but I know we have a much better situation at QB than them. Steve McNair throws the dump passes because he don't have trust in the long ball not Billick. I think his longest pass only helped us because it was pass interference. I agree let Boller get his feet wet, could turn into the next Romo.

We need a more complex offense, Billick improve OC or get a new OC.

[dsizzle007]

Yea Mcnair doesnt have faith in his long ball, but see thats the problem actually... (intersting stat): Mcnairs passing PCT. , ... when throwing over 25 yds, jumps up like almost 30%. He can still throw the long ball, hes just afraid of it.

[purpleandblack]

IT's BOLLER TIME!!!

I go to most if not all of the home games. I hope the fans in attendence will let it known ITS BOLLER TIME!!!!!

[Raven07]

we do have a OC.....in Rick NeuHeisal (or however you spell the name lol), he did connect on i think at least one "long" pass, (i forget who it was to though) i think it was one of those 20 yard passes, not sure. Raven fans remember though...if it wasnt for McNair coming in and teaching/mentoring/guiding Boller to what he is now, many people would still be "dreading" the times when Boller would step in. if it wasnt for McNair, Boller would probably still be the nervous, fumbling, turnover prone player we all dreaded to see come in....Like Boller said in the off-season for some time in the pre-season (forget which) Boller said "I've learned ALOT from McNair...he's taught me how to be a more patient, efficient passer...." and clearly McNair's mentoring has payed off for him...he seems to have the poise, confiedence,timing, and trust and all the other things, we wanted to see in Boller from the get go

[baltimoreravens00]

BOLLLERRR!!

i actually think its quite funny how every single fan ive talked to wants boller. ahahah. its already been said, but last year any time boller was mention we all said.. SCREW BOLLER! AIR MCNAIR! but thats changed. i think hes proved in the two games hes had to play that he can take our team to a winning season. mcnairs just a little rusty... i thinkkk?

[berad]

McNair played fairly well.

Granted, he made a few bad passes, but he completed 67% of his passes.

Also, he had to throw it 43 times! That's insane. We're lucky his arm is still there after that game.

[saved72907]

McNair played fairly well.

Granted, he made a few bad passes, but he completed 67% of his passes.

Also, he had to throw it 43 times! That's insane. We're lucky his arm is still there after that game.

67% is easy when pretty much every pass was a shovel pass. And the fact that he throws it 43 times, and piles up that little bit of yardage is sad, and most of that yardage was after the catch. Boller is the man. WELCOME TO BOLLERMORE!!!!!!!!

[Slick]

lol last year, everyone was dreading whenever Boller came out onto the field...now they all want him in the game...keep in mind that we were moving the ball down the field efficiently both on hte ground and through the air....what we need to do is take a little more shots down the field....i dont want to hear people say "oh McNair is old, he's done, he's through...washed up"....no thats not that case.....Favre is 38 and is completing passes all over the place and taking those shots down field, i feel like If and WHEN we take more of those shots down the field, we'll be alright....McNair did throw it Deep 2-3 times and Completed at least 1 of those passes (forget which one at the moment) but i say...if we can do that more often, it'll throw the Defense even more so off balance and cause them to think that they HAVE to defend against not only the pass but the run also......i feel as though Billick did a good job today in the fact that he did in fact stay with the game plan and Run the ball with McGahee and McGahee was getting those yards.....we were effective both through the air and on the ground...we just couldnt convert inside the red-zone....we need to practice/work on our Red-Zone offense and passing the ball effectively to open receivers that will eventually score the TD.....that should be ONE of the main focal points in practice this week....ALL week...and for many many weeks to come until we are finally able to do so effectively and efficiently

you know what's an interesting fact I just read in the paper today? the Ravens only have one game in which they converted over 50% of their red-zone attempts. guess what game it was? against the Jets. Boller was 2-3 on his redzone conversions, threw 2 touchdowns and no interceptions for a 23 of 35 for 185 yds game. In that spread he hit 8 different recievers and looked much more comfortable than McNair has all season.

IT'S BOLLER TIME

[khalil]

lets not forget if it wasnt for Steve coming here, and mentoring kyle and showing him the proper way to throw the ball, timing, and making smart decision with the football, we all would still be Booing Boller and dreading everytime we would come out onto the field.....so i think its a good thing that McNair is here...and lets not forget about Steve Mentoring Troy.....which will have Huge pay offs in the long run

Couldn't agree more. It's time for Mcnair to do what Trent Dilfer does for Alex Smith and start coaching Boller and Tory. This offense isn't going anywhere with Mcnair. Start Boller and maybe even bring Troy in occasionally and see what he can do.

[410golf]

I agree that Steve needs to rest a bit. But unless the play calling is a LITTLE more imaginative, it won't matter who's QB.

While on this subject, there were a lot of experienced and youngish QB's on the market this off season, but we did nothing.

The Ravens are too predictable for other teams and not that much fun for the fans......

[JonM229]

I'd rather see us running the ball more rather than throwing these short passes all the time.

[Slick]

I'd rather see us running the ball more rather than throwing these short passes all the time.

with Boller in we could go deep more often which would only open up McGahee's game even more.

but believe me, I was happier than most when McNair was first brought here, I've wanted him on the Ravens since the Titans came into existence. Even on Madden (the old school ones like 99 and such) I'd always trade for him cause he was my favorite quarterback at the time. However, now that he's past his prime he really needs to let Boller step up and help coach him through it. He's obviously already had an impact on his progression so giving him game time will only make Boller more effective. Plus it'll allow the coaching staff to develop better game plans that revolve around Boller and not around McNair, meaning more deep passes but not complete abandonment from what's been working so far this season. Plus, like I said, Boller might be able to actually get us some touchdowns, seeing as in his ONLY game starting this season he's converted 2 out of 3 red zone attempts compared to NO games where McNair has gone above %50 doing so.

[Jesse Conroy]

I say McNair needed to rest against the Browns, but Billick just has something going on in his brain that he sees and no one else does. And to be honest.. IT ISN"T WORKING BILLICK!

(He is starting to go on my 'cut him at the end of the season' list)

[dsizzle007]

We all know how vital its been for Boller to sit the bench behind a veteran quaterback like Steve. Its helped him out TREMENDOUSLY. And everytime Boller is asked to step up, he has. I love Boller, but i also think Steve isnt done yet. Steve still has great talent. And is progressively getting better from his injury. And its showing, he is having good %, great 3rd down %, moving the ball basically AT WILL between the 20's. He did pass alot last game, but lets think about that, our time of possesion was like what, double the 49'ers? lol. Our defense shut them down, time after time. We did have almost 30 carries rushing, yea i guess the number of pass>runs could have been alittle closer. But all in all, i dont think Mcnair did bad at all. Lets look at it like this

1) 2/3 recievers areant 100% (mason, clayton)

2) both starting TE's... hurt

3) 3/5 rookies on offensive line ( who played amazing )

4) a still injured Mcnair, who isnt turning the ball over like he was in week 1 and 2

5) not to mention SF's defense... which is pretty decent talent wise, as well as a coach who is familiar with us

point is, with all the injuries we have, Red Zone is difficult. Defenses change tremendously in the red zone regardless of injuries. but when you have to put Quinn in place of Todd Heap, Quinn doesnt get the attention Heap does. Defenses were shifting coverage outside alot more in the red zone. evening out the field and making it difficult to make decisions. These are fractions of seconds.... that you have to make decisions. And when you think about injured recievers who might get out of the break " a second" to late, or an offensive linemen who cant hold a block for an extra "second", a tight end who just had his first start ever, who takes an extra "second" to view a defense, make a read, run a hot route based on defense ( all while running his route. These key things reflect directly on us not scoring.

I agree with most of you all tho. Mcnair should take a rest the next 2 weeks. Boller can beat STL, and BUF, i have no doubts. That will give Mcnair 3 full weeks (including the bye) to get himself healthy and fresh. Mcnair skills areant gone already.... hes still very talented, lets give him the benefit of the doubt. He is more cautious for 2 reasons: first week, there was (6) turnovers... he doesnt want that happening week in and week out lol. Hes adjusting and gaining his confidence back. and 2: hes injured and has to be careful

I love BOLLER!!!!!, but..... LONG LIVE MCNAIR

[BrownsFan]

I think the one thing the majority of you all seem to be forgetting is you're 3-2. If you're winning and still competitive within the division as far as record goes, McNair ain't going anywhere unless injury *forces* him to.

Beg and plea for Boller non-stop and perhaps he *should* be your starting QB.. but when you're winning you don't break what isn't broken.

[Raven07]

you gotta a point there, i am for one a McNair Fan AND a Boller fan, i dont care who's in right now, but McNair seems to be the most Logical of choices right now, i mean its not like he isnt getting the ball down field because he is!, its not like he isnt moving the chains and getting first downs, because he is!..and its not like he's not in the opposing teams territory 6 outta 7 times (used it just as a exmple) because he is......what we clearly NEED to do is get better in teh Red Zone....everything seems to be working fine for us(offense is getting the job done just fine).....and we need to run the ball more effectively inside the 10 yard line.....to me thats the problem area...when we get inside the 10 yard line and are inability to run the football.....its not ALL McNairs fault....i mean because what he is doing right now...sure its not getting those HUGE chunks of yards and is (in other words called a Crowd Pleaser) but the fact of the matter is that, he is moving the ball and the chains just fine, PLUS thats our main goal here, to keep moving those chains and keep their Defense out on the field, tiring them out and most of all its Milking the Clock and that means less time for them to score and what not

[BrownsFan]

It's easy to point blame at the QB and again, not saying that it isn't partially his fault from what I've seen.. but honestly, since when have you all needed excellent QB play to win games? At least with the Browns game, you all lost because simply put you couldn't execute when needed in the red zone. McNair took you all down the field several times.

Just seems like McNair is catching a lot of crap when well, given Boller's past inconsistencies, it is almost inevitable those will return should be start.

[Raven07]

thats what i've been saying all along! lol we couldnt/dont execute very well when we're inside the red zone...if you ask me, we need to work on our Running ability inside that area